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评论来自
smcn
This is the penultimate boss of Naxxramas, and can only be fought once all 4 wings are cleared. More information can be found at
http://www.wowwiki.com/Sapphiron
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评论来自
913
Some of the items not listed on Sapphiron:
The Restrained Essence of Sapphiron
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=23046
Claw of the Frost Wyrm
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=23242
Sapphiron's Left Eye
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=23049
评论来自
3118
The basic premise is FrR and LoS. Hands down, he has the coolest spawn graphic in the game.
He drops a ton of loot. Enchants, items, ego.
评论来自
4922
Having only 1.3 mil is a bit weak though.
评论来自
6569
Set-Up!:
FROST RESISTANCE. Setup the raid for a balanced fight, but with FROST RESISTANCE. LOTS OF FROST RESISTANCE. Oh, and cold protection potions and of course consumables. FROST RESISTANCE. If you can see the theme here, Frost Resistance is very important in this encounter.
Skills:
Frost Immunity: Frost spells do no damage or have any affect on Sapphiron.
Flight:
He will fly in the air after 35 seconds of fighting to do five Icebolts and one ice breath then land for seventy seconds before doing it again.
Icebolt: Does 2625-3375ish damage with a moderate splash. The attack will stun you for three seconds. It can proc an Ice Block like affect putting you in a protective block of ice for 22 seconds but keeping you from moving or attacking.
Frost Breath: A slow moving attack launched from the air (before Sapphiron lands) that is aimed towards the middle of the room. The attack will hit the ground then “splash” outward. Those who are Ice Blocked from his Icebolt are immune along with anyone hiding behind them (being effectively out of LoS).
Frost Aura: Does 600 frost damage every second or so. Can be partially resisted.
Life Drain: Drains life and heals Sapphiron, simply remove the curse to prevent this.
Blizzard: A beefed up Mage’s Blizzard, simply stand out of it to be safe. It will slow you down.
Tactics:
This is like an Onyxia fight, except well instead of Onyxia you have a giant Frostwyrm who wants to rain ice down upon you. Tactics for this fight will differ and only the knowledge of combat with this beast can lead to its defeat. The best suggestion to start out with is to try tanking Sapphiron until he flys then have your raid stand behind anyone who is Ice Blocked to keep safe from his Frost Breath.
评论来自
AWRyder
According to a database i have here, this are some details i have about sapphiron, but, they might not be correct!
Entry ID: 15989
Model ID: 16033
Rank: 3 ( Boss )
Type: 6 ( too lazy to check but should be either dragonlike or giant xD, ill edit this later ) Edit: Ermm, i guess it was undead after all. =/
Level: 63
Faction: 14
Health: 2907132
Mana: 75693
Scale: 2.2 of the normal scale, being 1 = normal.
Damage: 2550 - 2800 with 1480 miliseconds of delay.
Ranged damage: 965.517 - 879.31 with 1700 miliseconds of delay.
Armor and resistances: Null
Once again, this data might not be correct but should be near the real ones :)
评论来自
Nummytaterz
Massive FR needed for this fight farmed off other bosses in naxx.
评论来自
zdravko
this guy doesn't eat his vegetables :D
评论来自
116381
He has 4 million hp
评论来自
loragheta
there was frost resistance gear.... it comes from naxx
评论来自
79477
Spamming Renew as a priest at level 70 is incredibly effective here. Up to 10 targets can be Renewed at once (though mana is an issue if you cast that often), doing slightly less healing than the Aura does on those 10 people. I'd guess a single Druid would be able to keep 10 people up with Rejuv spam and fairly high +heals. Pre-HoTing should not be underestimated in this fight.
评论来自
Nummytaterz
ZOMG IM AN ICECUBE GET BEHIND ME!
评论来自
kt0rse
The single most coolest (pun not intended) boss in Naxxramas instance.
As it seems, the ice blocks behind which you have to hide from his devastating ability, the Frost Breath, is a bit bugged. So to be completely sure that you are in the right position when he casts Frost Breath try attacking him from behind the ice block, if it says "Target not in the line of sight." then you are safe. Other than that, stay out of the Blizzards and use your mana rationally and you should be fine.
评论来自
178151
Sapphiron was a blue dragon in northrend but arthas killed him and made him his servant
评论来自
Erlinn
Beta testers have found a place ingame where the cinematic is thought to have taken place (tall cliff overlooking a large canyon, etc.) with a big ol' hole in the ground where a frost wyrm could have sprung from the ice, and it's called "Sindragosa's Fall". This has lead to the conclusion that the wyrm in the cinematic is, indeed, Sindragosa.
评论来自
XilDarkz
Further elaboration on Erlinn's post:
Sindragosa's Fall seems like the name of an area where she died, and she is a notable dragon to die. In the cinematic, it is speculated that you see the Lich King's revival of her into his command.
She will possibly be the Illidan of Wrath, while Arthas himself will be the Kil'Jaeden.
评论来自
29778
On a series of quest in Icecrown, you get a cut-scene after a quest in Sindragosa's Fall. Arthas raises Sindragosa from the ice in the cut-scene. So the frost wrym in WotLK cinematic is supposedly Sindragosa as the cut-scene precisely shows the same event as the cinematic.
评论来自
51372
One of the longest-awaited for bosses/encounters to be unveiled (given the 4-horsemen took foreverrr). But, the opening scene when the encounter is initiated tells the whole story behind how well-thought this encounter was (even though it was basically a resistance/gear check)
评论来自
236106
has one of the most kick-ass entrance animations for a boss ever, i mean flying bones, who'd ever thought of that
评论来自
Dubilas
Did anyone fight him already in wotlk? If so, is fr needed at all?
Thanks in advance...
评论来自
Fugazi
We tried him on 10 man and we just get completely destroyed. We haven't got any problems with any boss before so... My friend in other guild have exactly same problem - they are destroyed and got him most to like 85%.
The problem is healing, so much is needed that our 3 healers could not handle it at all - they are going oom in no time. I do not know what is the problem but this boss seems to be nightmare compared to all bosses before him.
EDIT: So 2 months passed and I dig this. We killed him like week later quite easily and tactic was simply "all non-healers go craft one piece of FrR set". Add FrR aura/totem to that and you will sit on 200+ FrR (healers on 130) which will help a lot. However keep in mind that more than once piece will nerf your dps too much and healers cannot really equip this at all as they need their stats for this fight.
评论来自
Asora
In 10 man he does 1200 Frost damage each sec to everyone in the raid before slain.
In 25 man he does 1600 Frost damage each sec to everyone in the raid before slain.
Sapphiron has approximately 4,250,000 hit points in the 10 man version.
And has approximately 11,870,000 hit points in the 25 man version.
I would imagine it beeing easyer to do without Frost res in the 25man version as you bring more healers and different classes, in the 10man you bring at most 3 healers and 1-2 aoe healers, my guild 1 shoted every wing in nax and we had problems at sapp due to the healers still beeing in t5-6 and partly heroic gear.
We're giving it another try tomorrow with everyone in full frost res gear, wich is by the way easy obtainable with cheap and few mats.(Think blizzard are aiming these sets for the casual 10 man progressing guilds)
These sets are called
Plate - Icebane
Belt -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43587
Boots -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43588
Chest -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43586
Leather - Polar
Belt -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43591
Boots -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43592
Chest -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43590
Mail - Icy Scale
Belt -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43594
Boots -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43595
Chest -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43593
Cloth - Glacial
Belt -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43584
Boots -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43585
Chest -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43583
Hope this helps for some, other then the damage over time, he is basicly a tank & spank with blizzard around the room, phase two is just spreading out at start and running behind two players beeing "Ice tombed" to Line of sight he's "Deep breath" wich is a frost bomb he puts in the middle of the room shortly after freezeing two random players of the raid.
Asora - Invisus
评论来自
94427
Big note: If a melee type is still attacking Sapphiron in the air and gets ice blocked, make sure you aren't touching the ice block when the frost breath (bomb) hits, or you will still get hit. Leave some space between it.
This is coming from experience. I've seen people humping the block trying to melee Sapphiron with some auto attacks through it who then got pwned, while others behind the same block survived.
评论来自
235903
Hello,
Kaoswarr said in 2006 "Frost Immunity: Immune to any frost based attacks."
Does anyone know if this is still true? We have not reached him yet but i was wondering if I could tank him as a Frost DK. I think Acclimation would help alot in this fight, or am I going to have to respec blood because he is immune to 70% of my dmg?
评论来自
27710
in wrath you no longer see resist for spell misses, you see the actual miss message.
IE as a priest if I cast Mind Blast at this boss and my 0 hit in holy gear causes the spell to miss, I see just that, a miss. But if say I'm dueling another priest who has Shadow Protection up (130+resistance), and the spell is resisted, I see just that, a resist message.
Blizzard most likely did this to help people better understand that Resist used to mean you weren't hit capped, and were stacking penetration believing it would reduce/eliminate resist messages.
TLDR: If a frost dk/mage is seeing the word RESIST, the boss has resistance, if they are seeing MISS they need more +hit gear
评论来自
lormus
Info on his resistance to frost is definitely untrue as of live build. He does have frost resistance.
I'm seeing 17% of my frosbolts resisted and I'm hit capped.
评论来自
116607
The answer is on this page
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=28531
- its every second according to this. Honestly I didnt really notice the time interval myself, I was more focused on healing the damage taken (I was the one posting we did it with 2 priests on our first run with totem/aura only).
The raid does take a lot of damage, especially if DPS dont help the healers. They can help the healers by doing two things:
1: Stay out of blizzard and avoid tail swipe - and dont get cleaves. This is pretty obvious and should be basic for every DPS - but sadly its not always, so be sure to remind people.
2: Stay in groups. This can be a bit tricky from time to time as people have to run from blizzards - but with a little coordination its not a problem really. What we did the first time was making 2 camps - a melee camp and a caster camp. We gave a raidmark to a player in each camp and told everyone else to follow that guy as much as possible - we then assigned our priests to each their camp, both healing the maintank too.
This encounter was lot easier than what it felt like on our first try where healing felt really hard and people took a lot of damage. However, when we sorted the healing and the DPSers helped us out (what I wrote above) he went down fairly easy.
评论来自
116607
I disagree. If Naxx was an end-game instance (agian ^^) I would agree that it would be ok if FR was needed - but the instance in general is simply too easy to justify the need for spending lots of gold on crafting frost resist gear for the whole raid.
评论来自
149749
Currently there is a situation during the fight that allows Blizzard to continue during the air phase. This can become extremely irritating because the raid needs to stay behind an ice block to avoid death, but at the same time a blizzard is WTF pwning everyone with nothing we can do. Originally, my group was very frustrated that luck was part of the boss fight. After reading comments here and watching videos, there a few solutions that you can use if this happens to be the case during the fight. One way is to just have your healers AoE heal you (really only a solution if you're overgeared for the instance). Another is to start the air phase at one side of the room, then run as fast as you can to the other side so that the blizzard will take awhile to catch up to you. Finally, staying somewhat spread out not only makes it so that fewer people are hit by the ice bolt AoE but also forces the blizzard to keep switching targets so that it is only one one person instead of an entire group. Waiting to collapse only after the second ice bolt allows maximum distance between your group and the blizzard before he does his frost breath. Hopefully this helps anyone who is having similar problems. But yes, luck is somewhat part of this encounter. Welcome to the Malchezzar of Naxx :)
评论来自
airtonix
considering we all dinged 80 the same week.
You forget to mention your in full t6 with the best enchants and gems.
Possibly you also like to forget mentioning you ran heroics all that week for badge gear upgrades.
评论来自
279910
16 wipes yesterday.. this is
NOT
cake. we were two healers, restoration shaman and holy paladin.
If you want to do this with only two healers, please take a restoration druid with you. It is important to have persons to focus on the curses. Restoration druids have HoT's and decurse. These are two of the most important spells at this boss.
评论来自
280962
My answer to why people have very different experiences with this encounter (feel free to disagree)---
Bottom line: sometimes his aura does tick every second, other times it does not.
Explanation:
Sapphiron's frost aura does not act the same from raid to raid. It could be a recent hot fix or just bad luck or maybe it could vary within the encounter.
The first few times my guild fought this guy, we downed him no problem. In a recent attempt, we wiped numerous times. In looking at combat logs, here is what I found from the easier previous nights' combat logs:
Time 0:00 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:01 Frost aura is refreshed.
Time 0:02 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:03 Frost aura is refreshed.
..etc
Thus, the aura was hitting every two seconds.
In the recent failed tries:
Time 0:00 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:01 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:02 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:03 Hit by frost aura.
Time 0:03.2 Frost aura is refreshed.
Time 0:04 Hit by frost aura.
Here, it is hitting every second.
Note, I simplified the combat text to make it easy to understand and also note that there is some variety within each log, but this is generally what I saw.
Conclusion: if you are getting hit every second, might need 3 healers or some FR gear, or a great strategy with two healers. Good luck!
评论来自
156857
Never stand behind an iceblocked gnome if you have a toon more than a feet high.
评论来自
218492
paly FR aura and Totems dont stack
评论来自
107659
well me and my guild are doing him atm and well we arnt doing to gd, am wondering if anyone has any general tips as we are struggling as the aura is our main prob we have the 130 resistance and is putting alot of presure onto our healers.
评论来自
173718
But he does have frost resistance, making any frost dps a detriment to your burn. Even as a mage, I have to say it's in any raid's best interest to sit frost mages and frost DKs for this fight.
评论来自
287739
Yep. The above statement.....
No, he is no longer immune to frost spells or abilities, nor is he resistant to it. Frost DKs and mages have no problem anymore.
...is utterly and completely false.
While not immune, he is indeed highly resistant to frost spells.... just a short wws parse quote...
21:10'46.719 Malkinorr Frostbolt hits Sapphiron for 5112 Frost. (Critical) (539 Resisted)
21:10'49.656 Malkinorr Frostbolt was fully resisted by Sapphiron.
21:10'57.188 Malkinorr Frostbolt hits Sapphiron for 3222 Frost. (Critical) (1358 Resisted)
21:10'59.922 Malkinorr Frostbolt hits Sapphiron for 3860 Frost. (Critical) (1084 Resisted)
21:11'04.359 Malkinorr Frostbolt hits Sapphiron for 4404 Frost. (Critical) (795 Resisted)
21:11'07.438 Malkinorr Frostbolt misses Sapphiron.
21:11'09.438 Malkinorr Frostbolt hits Sapphiron for 1920 Frost. (1079 Resisted)
Not hit capped - so it included a miss - there were quite a few FULL resists, and
all
were at
least
partially resisted.
Please downrank it into oblivion.
评论来自
158969
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php
just see it... it tells everything u need to know about this fight
(dont take this serri)
评论来自
Jacuzi
Lol, nuclear launch detected? Yes
评论来自
Lassy
Frost mages and frost Dks dead set on not changing their spec benefit very much from spell penetration.
This otherwise useless stat works wonders on risistant (not immune) bosses like this one.
评论来自
deolrin
Just for some lore:
Sapphiron was an Azure Dragon that Arthas and Anu'Barak slain, and coverted him into a Frost Wyrm. It happened in Warcraft III-The Frozen Throne, in one of the first Undead stages in the Campaign.
评论来自
Serai
by far the most annoying thing on this fight is the frost aura that deals 12k dps to a 10man raid at all times
since sapphirons enrage timer is very easy your racing against your healers mana bar, with potions now only useable once per fight your going to run out sometime
for dpsers the main priority is to avoid the blizzards as suddenly taking high dmg drains a healers mana far faster than a predictable stream of dmg
评论来自
275496
I don't se what everyones problem for this boss is... our guild casually raids 10 man Naxx every week as we are actually a PvP guild, however first time we raided Naxx we reached Saph, wiped twice and then downed him on the 3rd try, our average gear level was heroic rares and epics/crafted epics, i really dont see how people are struggling, if you healers are going oom, either your dps is seriously lacking and thye arent getting him down anywhere near in time or your healers have SERIOUS problems with their mana pool / mp5, our general setup is resto druid, holy priest and 1 random healer depending on who else is online and we have no problems at all, after the first time weve run Naxx about aother 4-5 times and we've one shotted him every time no problems.
评论来自
145484
Class specific gear:
Plate - Icebane
Belt -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43587
Boots -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43588
Chest -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43586
Leather - Polar
Belt -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43591
Boots -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43592
Chest -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43590
Mail - Icy Scale
Belt -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43594
Boots -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43595
Chest -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43593
Cloth - Glacial
Belt -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43584
Boots -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43585
Chest -
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43583
Non-class specific gear/item:
Ring:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=43582
Head enchant:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=44137
Cloak enchant:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=37332
Potion:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=40215
Flask:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=44939
Professional specific items:
LW only bracer enchant:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=57694
Engineer only goggles:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=41112
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=44740
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=44741
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=44742
评论来自
195360
Sick of wiping to this boss from lack of heals, we decided to bring in some artillery: After the 16th wipe, everyone zoned out, took 1 hour to farm mats and check the AH, got their gear crafted, and zoned back in.
In this hour, we found that our Feral Druid had respecced resto and our Pally OT had brought along his healing gear.
over 300 frost resist on whole raid, 4 healers and the OT in his healing gear. Only 1 tank and 4 dps. The fight was a joke, but took over 10 minutes.
Main parts of the fight:
-Learn to dodge the deep breath. You will not survive it. Either you learn to stand behind the iceblocks, or you will die.
-Yes, Frost Resist is not NEEDED, but it HELPS, a LOT. Plus, as the MT, it will come in useful to tank Kel'Thuzad in the next fight (Frost Resist on the main tank helps a ton)
-Take it easy. This is NOT a dps race, it's a survival fight. Help your healers and win.
评论来自
288022
Ok some musings about the hardest heal fight in the instance.
1. Pally healers are just shafted here. If we have a pally healer at this boss we tend to just have them assigned to MT heal and off heal when someone is real low(On a side note I'd love to be able to 2 heal this with a paladin but I have not as yet found a paladin geared/skilled enough to achieve this, im a resto shaman and go oom if I have to heal more than 6 people really)
2. Priests/Shamans/Druids is what its all about here. Priests and Druids can keep a 5 man group alive here, whilst a shaman can easily keep 3 but with a little effort keep a 5 man group up.
3. In the ground phase. Have the ranged groups split into two groups, left and right, all the melee are obviously all in the centre. Have 1 decurser for each of these groups(its much much better if the decurser is NOT a healer) assign 1 healer left 1 healer right, this splits up the blizzards as two are cast at once and if you are on one side all together there is a chance they can converge and wipe you
4. In the air phase, have the whole raid run towards the entrance to the encounter this means you are away from the blizzards, that all the people dont have far to run for ice bolts it also means you are in range of all the aoe healers(nb if someone goes into an ice block at low hp it is essential for a healer to use a cooldown to save them the instant they come out). At this point any druid of any spec in your raid should use tranquility as it is an imba spell at the minute :)
The main things that cause a wipe here are :
- Healer oom - This will come if you have poor dps or poor gear, only solution is to either swap people out or get more healers through respecs. Can also happen if people are being stupid and standing in blizzards
- The boss healing up - This will only occur if people are not decursing. Explain to them this is priority 1 over another frostfirebolt/starfire etc
- Unlucky Ice Bolts - You do need to keep your raid over about 50% hp at all times to avoid this, again this can be hard depending on healer spellpower but again more healers will resolve this problem.
I hope this helps :)
Nb. The achievement 100 club is actually a really easy one as the frost resist set just doesnt seem to mitigate more than it gimps the healer mana and dps's dps.
评论来自
Wrethched
For Sappihiron on Normal (10 Man) difficulty there is not much FrR needed to make the fight comfortable.
Our guild usually only requires us to wear the chest piece of the FrR set which gives 115 FrR.
If we take a look at the FrR we can get from sets:
Chest + Aura/Totem = 245 FrR, Good
Belt & Boots + Aura/Totem= 302 FrR, Very Good
Whole Set + Aura/Totem = 417 FrR, Excellent
In my opinion "Good" is more than enough because otherwise you'll be turning in a lot of good stats as Mp/5 for an overload of Stamina and FrR, and as other people have stated you can easiliy do it without any FrR at all it's just that a little of it makes this fight so much easier.
评论来自
TMWNN
Twice Frost Breath wiped my pickup raid during the first air phase despite our hiding behind iceblocked people. Our mistake was running too close to the entrance; the little bits of "snow" on the ground raised us enough to be hit. Once we made sure to not be on the snowy ground we were fine. It's still good strategy to gather in one place to make sure we can reach an ice block quickly, of course, and the doorway is as good a place as any; just not too close.
评论来自
42591
If you are not a HOLY priest do not read
healing this boss was pretty intense.
the spell that you should use the most is prayer of mending.
spamming renew and circle of healing is very bad. you would go out of mana even before he takes flight. try your best not to use these unless it is mandatory.
let prayer of mending carry you in the ground phase.
when he flies out, use prayer of healing / CoH to top everyone off before he fires his frost bolt to freeze people.
rinse and repeat
评论来自
42591
the only way to win against sapphiron is to have a mage / druid dispel the curse as soon as possible.
otherwise you'll be stuck at 80% after 3 flying phases
评论来自
303182
Mages, note that Frost Ward is your friend. Any help you can give your healers by resisting damage for x amount of seconds is a huge help. I have found it works well when you're positioned behind the ice blocks, makes it a bit easier to get through that mess. I also use it when a blizzard is first dropped on me, if I can't get out of it fast enough.
Herbalists note that lifeblood, while not much of a HoT, can help as well. This fight is about survivability, not a DPS race.
评论来自
Crowax
finally downed him yesterday.
tanks: warr, druid <he was dpsing in cat on this fight>
healers: me <disc priest, specced for this fight only - actually i might stay in it>, holy pally, resto shaman
5 dps: 2x rogue, shadowpriest <who died by not hiding behind blocks on 1st sapphiron's flight...no replenishment/hp from IVE>, hunter, dk
easy fight. pally would decurse, also had FR aura. We've made our dps to wear some FR equip if they had it, but none on healers and tank. Also my SR prayer helped on missed decurses ;-)
i really dunno how we could be wiping on him a day before soo many times. possibly, being a bit spread when he shoots icebolts is the biggest deal. and ofc hiding behind blocks they leave. didn't even use shadowfiend and i ended at ~20%, although u have to count in improved wisdom, mp5 flask and mana totems. had over 500 mp5 while casting
评论来自
240502
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/spell=53937
评论来自
Stigmata
No, he's correct.
1.2k per person.
10 people.
12k to raid.
评论来自
Akumas
Based off personal experience, your healers will make or break this fight for you, depending on their skill level and ability to manage their mana pool due to the fight's long duration.
Things I've seen that make this fight more difficult:
(1) Having only one healer who can apply HoTs
(2) Having people not remove Sapphiron's curse fast enough, or maybe not at all
(3) Having unfortunate blizzard spamming on your melee over and over
Things I've seen that make this fight much easier:
(1) Having two or more healers that can apply HoTs
(2) Getting fortunate with blizzard placement
(3) Having a shadow priest's VE and VT
In terms of frost resist gear, I would recommend wearing one or two pieces if you're a new group or your healers can't quite get the job done. However, I also want to stress that it's not necessary to wear any frost resist gear if you have skilled healers or multilpe healers that can HoT and AoE heal effectively.
评论来自
d3nyd
If you are a Death Knight, you can survive Sapph's Frost Breath.
Icebound Fortitude + Anti-Magic Shell + Bone Shield will easily absorb MOST of the damage of this if you happen to get caught in its blast and you're not behind an Ice Bolted raid member. I found myself in that unfortunate situation, and popped all three of those abilities. I took only 5001 damage, with nearly 75,000 absorbed and 20,000 resisted. Unfortunately my HP was already below 5001, so I died anyway.
Also, if you aren't trying to push your luck and impress your raid and just kill the boss, you can trivialize the amount of damage you take from Frost Aura. Use IBF and AMS whenever the CDs are up and you're basically guaranteed to take the least amount of damage in the entire raid.
评论来自
155412
Not sure why my comment was deleted... but here it goes again.
Sometimes Sapph's aura ticks faster, which causes huge head aches and frustration because the fight seems so easy when it doesn't tick fast.
Fast example from my guild:
Successful wws log kill of Sapph - 1 tank, 7 dps, 2 healers. The two healers combined put out roughly 2 million healing over just under 6 minutes, or about 5,700 heals per second.
Mass wipage best attempt on Sapph - 1 tank, 6 dps, 3 healers. The three healers combined put out almost 4 million healing in 7 minutes, or about 9,500 heals per second (damn fine job, imo).
I know what you're thinking, wait, the tooltip says it ticks 1200 per second, so shouldn't your raid have to put out 12,000 heals per second?
Take a look at this log - 2 million damage in about 6 minutes
http://wowwebstats.com/vt4tquxsatmpq?s=204317-218347
compared to this log - 3.3 million damage in 7 minutes
http://wowwebstats.com/r5dpp5dbrbrcg?s=34043-56015
(maybe it was wearing FrR gear, but i know in my guild's attempts, we never wear any FrR gear, so I'm positive this problem/bug does occur)
Conclusion? sometimes you're taking a ton more damage. Good luck if that's the case.
评论来自
311052
Just one thing about that Frost Breath, I am Speaking from experience that if you're a death knight with the Anti-Magic Shell improve specc You are able to earn 100+ runic power from the frost breath without taking the damage:)
评论来自
Ferlathin
since the frost cap is at 415 = 75%
Actually, you're wrong there. Frost cap is not at 415. Please visit:
Elitist Jerks
for more information regarding this.
评论来自
138638
tip: if a mage casts iceblock and tells the whole raid to go behind him/her do NOT listen to the mage i learned that the hard way mage iceblocks are not the same thing!
(this is a joke just think about it a mage telling 80% of grp to go behind THEIR iceblock just think about it )
评论来自
zarathorn
He is not immune, but as of the latest patch he is highly resistant. I wouldn't suggest being a frost mage/frost DK on this fight, your frost damage will be basically cut in half.
评论来自
216888
Anyone else notice how Sapphiron is one of the few (or only) blue dragons (or formerly...) who's name doesn't end in -gos or -gosa?
ie. Maly
gos
, Sindra
gosa
评论来自
273450
did his aura got a nerf in 3.0.8, just one-shoted him with no FRR gear, and we wiped alot pre 3.0.8 even WITH the gear.
but its a very fun fight for a healer.
评论来自
237816
This fight really plays well into a bear tank's specialties. While other tanks can have problems hitting 540 def in a lot of Fr gear, but druids maintain uncrittability from just talents. on top of the the Fr gear has huge amounts of stamina, which scales incredibly well with druids due to bear form and all the stamina increasing talents.
I've found that i can tank in 4 pieces of frost resist (chest, belt, boots, ring) gemmed pure stamina gems and still dont have to worry about DPS hitting the threat ceiling. With this amount of frost resist, improved leader of the pack, and proper use of cooldowns such as barkskin, frenzied regen, etc. The healers could mostly neglect me and worry about the DPS. a resto druid rolling 3xLB and a rejuv was enough to keep me alive between air phases, meaning he could largely ignore more for the nine seconds between refreshing his hots, allowing him to focus more on tossing spot regrowths, Lifeblooms and wildgrowths.
The other big help we had was we agreed everyone must get behind the same iceblock. This way the priest and druid could spam wild growth and circle of healing to get everyone topped off in preperation for the ground phase.
those two little pieces were key in us downing sapph our first time, as well as making sure your dps understands the blizzard mechanics and moves quickly. Obviously once you get used to the mechanics and your gear catches up to the encounter, the tank can start subbing out some of his Fr gear and stuff like that.
评论来自
309638
Frost resistance gear IS essential to taking him down untill you have a group thats exceptionally well geared, smart enough to stay out of blizzards, and skilled healers.
Tanks should NOT wear frost resist, as heals will be focusing on them anyway, and most likely adding a piece or 2 of frost resist will drop them below the def cap, which is bad.
Everyone except the MT should have at least 2 pieces of frost resist gear, this fight is not a dps race, it is an endurance fight, there is no intelligent reason not to wear frost resist unless your going for the 300 club achievement.
There is a more
in-depth guide here
that helps a lot with the strategy of this fight.
评论来自
328643
Looks like Mage/Druid Curse Removal are good for dealing with Sapph's Life Drain - is there confirmation available as to whether Cloak Of Shadows/Ice Block, etc. will work?
评论来自
328981
Hi
Yesterday we were doing 10 man nax. And we were at saphiron. I was off tank. And somehow main tank dies. Then the boss took a dps (ı was on battle stance). Quickly switch to defensive stance and hit taunt. Guess what happens: did not work. Then ı wait for 8 secs (cooldown) hit again did work also. wait another 8 secs push taunt again did not happen. After 5-6 taunts we got wipe. cause boss never attacked me. I did not use challenging shout because it did not come to my mind. Anyhow what is for taunt?
Some saying he is immune to taunt. Is it true?
评论来自
242716
No, he's wrong :D its 1200 damage every 2 seconds = 600 DPS * 10 players = 6000.
Anyway it's still anoying...
评论来自
220005
He's immune to taunt. But before he wasn't.
评论来自
146819
Sapphiron.
Has.
The.
Best.
Entrance.
EVER.
评论来自
Primax
What precisely is that bone at the front of Sapphiron?
You know. The waggly dragon p e n i s thing.
评论来自
189117
You can actually stand on the grate on the wall and you will not get hit by deep breath, even tho I would not recommend as using this as a strategy to simplify the fight I would recommend this for "Oh #$%^" moments when you cant make the ice block.
评论来自
moriarti
There is no need to have either mages nor DKs sit this fight out. Well, especially not the frost DKs. The only blue gem ability that benefits DKs' dps is spell penetration. Since you need 2 blue gems for the meta, you might as well have 20 spell penetration (10 from each of two dual color gems). And since DKs benefit so little from agility, and so much from spell pen (if they are frost), your best back enchant is +35 spell pen. That's full 55 spell pen right there. Spell pen directly effects resistance: 1 point of pen=resistance reduced by 1 point. As for the gems in your frost resist gear, just put 3 blue 20 spell pen gems. You have 115 spell pen at that point. You just might find yourself at the top of the dps chart for that fight for the full "wtf" effect.
评论来自
309760
Does anyone know if there's a glitch where Sapphiron will Ice Block a mages Water Elemental? My raid thinks that my pet basically caused a wipe, since he's immune to frost attacks and he wouldn't be frozen.
评论来自
hackandmore
Berserk
wont kill you...have the best healer(not by amount he heals but how much frost resist he has) focus on tank only...Shamans are perfect for this due to the
Chain Heal
you get more dmg per tick but that doesnt mean "wipe all raid" as stated
If you have high enough frost resist ure saved...
How we got our frost resist:
Frost Resistance Aura
130
Frost Resistance Totem
130
Gift of the Wild
54
Mighty Frost Protection Potion
absorbs an average of 5k frost dmg
We were lucky enough to have fewer dps and healers covered us
when he went berserk we were down to 300-400k...no hunters for
Tranquilizing shot
Our mage had alchemy and tons of pots.He claimed he never took frost dmg with
Frost Ward
and the pots(actually he did 20k total :D)
A pala had to pop
Divine Shield
at the enrage thats all...
Btw i had
Titanium Frostguard Ring
with a
Solid Dragon's Eye
and
Enchant Ring - Stamina
and a head frost resist enchant that got me to excellent frost resist status...
took like 150-200 dmg per tick and most of it was absorbed by pot
评论来自
Amethystine69
As far as 'benching Frost Mages', they have a spell specifically for this situation. If a Frost mage is taken into this fight, they can Frostfire Bolt and focus on decursing, rather than their usual full DPS rotation.
评论来自
Pirwzy
The huge ice formations next to the teleporter you enter the room from do
NOT
break LoS for the Frost Breath.
评论来自
318930
I wonder if the name has any relation to sapphira from the book eragon :3
评论来自
150562
Has anyone run into an issue where Sapphiron doesn't ice block anyone, but still does Frost Breath? Happened to us last run. He attempted to ice block me, but it killed me somehow and no one else was ice blocked, so there was no place for us to run.
评论来自
Atzemis
As of 3.1, it appears that running to the edges of the room will no longer protect you from his deep breath. I learned this the hard way unfortunately...
评论来自
359044
The bone reconstruction may be a reference/copy of the museum boss in medievil2 (ps1 classic)
评论来自
Vreyara
finally downed him yesterday.
tanks: warr, druid <he was dpsing in cat on this fight>
healers: me <disc priest, specced for this fight only - actually i might stay in it>, holy pally, resto shaman
5 dps: 2x rogue, shadowpriest <who died by not hiding behind blocks on 1st sapphiron's flight...no replenishment/hp from IVE>, hunter, dk
easy fight.
pally would decurse
, also had FR aura. We've made our dps to wear some FR equip if they had it, but none on healers and tank. Also my SR prayer helped on missed decurses ;-)
i really dunno how we could be wiping on him a day before soo many times. possibly, being a bit spread when he shoots icebolts is the biggest deal. and ofc hiding behind blocks they leave. didn't even use shadowfiend and i ended at ~20%, although u have to count in improved wisdom, mp5 flask and mana totems. had over 500 mp5 while casting
Quite interesting, I didn't know Paladins could remove curses.
评论来自
391333
nuss O_O
评论来自
338077
You must realize heroic is harder than it says here. She has at least 20 million health. Not 14. Last encounter I had with her was heroic, yesterday.
评论来自
361624
OK, not exactly sure what was going on last night, but I have a theory....
Last night I was running this on my hunter, my pet kept despawning. I suspect that since I was close to max range, that my pet was going around to the back side and because Saph is so big, that it moved my pet out of range and he despawned.
I had to resummon/call my pet 3-4 times during the fight. Another hunter had the same issue last night as well.
I'd like to hear if anyone else has another explanation, or at least let this serve as a cautionary note for hunters and possibly warlocks with pets out. I'd done this fight before with my hunter and had not seen this previously, so I don't know if this is new, or if it's just an issue with where I was standing, but at any rate, pay attention to your pet and make sure he's still there, or else you'll lose out on some dps.
评论来自
Xicon
For all you mages out there, if your guild is in a jokey-joke mood, use Ice Block during the air phase.
评论来自
344122
In a recent patch Sapphiron's aggro range was drastically reduced, and you can now stand right outside the inner circle Sapphiron stands in.
评论来自
KyorraWindblade
Priests, rejoice!
Holy priests can survive the Deep Breath every 3 minutes, if they screw up / ice block too far away, by casting Guardian Spirit on themselves. It removes the buff, and you're on 50% Health instead of dying.
Shadow Priests -may- survive the effect, if they have some decent Stamina. The Frost Breath isn't an instant kill effect, it deals 112500 to 187500 Frost damage (average 150000). Dispersion reduces damage by 90%, meaning it only deals 10% damage: 11250-18750, average 15000. PW: Shield calculates after mitigation, so if we have a Shield up before we Disperse, we have a retardedly high effective health, and we're saved easily.
If not... Well. You weren't supposed to, anyway.
EDIT: Calculation about shield - Thanks Abbot.
评论来自
341384
The most beautiful boss in WoW =D
评论来自
nyctric
First defeated by Death & Taxes on the 2nd of September, 2006.
评论来自
315859
I'm a fake Ice block!
The funniest way to wipe on a boss, EVER.
评论来自
454700
sapphiron is not really the big boss of naxxramas but KT is very strongest to sapp
评论来自
93865
I was able to tank Sapphiron-25 tonight without getting behind the iceblocks. I Divine Shielded the first one, Ardent Defender'd the second, then stacked Divine Protection with gylphed Hand of Salvation on myself. With three self-contained cooldowns, I never needed to escape the frost breath, and was able to eat it in its entirety.
Aestu, Bleeding Hollow-US
评论来自
499577
have any hi geared tanks tried 2 absorb frost breath yet lol
last stand+trinkets and such=possible 120k abosrb
mabye
评论来自
Thottbot
what % did u wipe at? lol i know hes REALLY hard but just curious BTW what realm are u on>?
评论来自
Thottbot
U killed him! nice man well if u can send a SS of Kel'Thuzzad
评论来自
Thottbot
pls m8 tell me on what server u are , im migrating ASAP ! gl with kel
评论来自
Thottbot
http://www.wowwiki.com/images/c/cf/Kelthuzad3dz.jpg
Kel'Thuzad
评论来自
Thottbot
death and taxes just downed him today. first worldwide to down four horsemen and sapphiron..
gg
评论来自
Thottbot
Awe. He's just Arthas's pet Frost Wyrm.... Why would you want to kill him? That's like kicking your dog, you just don't do it.
=( Poor Frosty.
评论来自
Thottbot
Sapphiron was a mighty dragon that king Arthas and Anub´arak killed in Northrend... Sapphiron had something mighty that they could use against the blood elfes and Illdan that stood in their way for defending the frozen throne
评论来自
Thottbot
true, but he joined them afterwards...they sent him back at the entrance of the...what are they?... catacombs?
评论来自
Thottbot
can anyone post a screenshot of Sapphi?
评论来自
Thottbot
Sapphiron is immune to frost spells.
Berserker enrage after 15 mins, making his Frost Aura do 600% damage.
Sapphiron will first take to the air 45 secs after engaging, then fire 5 Icebolts and 1 Frost Breath and land. After that, it will stay on the ground for 67 secs before flying up again and repeating the process.
Cleave - Your basic Frontal cleave, keep him faced away from the group.
Icebolt - Deals 2625-3375 frost damage, 10 yard splash radius, 25 second duration, stuns chosen target for 3 sec. Only occurs when Sapphiron is in the air. Appears to induce an iceblock-like effect with the functionality of the Mage's Ice Block spell; ie. you cannot take any action but are immune to attacks for the duration. Ice Bolt last for 22 secs.
Frost Breath - Slow-moving, wide-range "ice bomb" AoE attack. Sapphiron will "take a deep breath" after 5 Icebolts in the air. It can be resisted. Only happens when Sapphiron is in the air - he breathes a cloud of frost which floats slowly to the ground and explodes when it touches the ground, doing 75000-125000 damage in a 70 yard radius. Sapphiron will land after Frost Breath. It takes about 5-6 seconds to land. Its target is the middle of the room, not a specific person. Anyone who has been frozen by Icebolt will be immune to this. This attack cancels the Ice Block. Raid members can stand behind the Iceblocked individuals and will be considered out of LoS of the Frost Breath.
Frost Aura - Frost-damage DoT-type attack. 100 yard radius, damages afflicted targets for 600 frost damage every two seconds. Keeps applying. (Can be partially resisted)
Life Drain - 12 second duration, 100 yard range, curse-type. Drains 1750 to 2250 health and heals Sapphiron for 3500 to 4500 every 3 sec. Used every 24 secs as well.
Blizzard - Much denser and larger than normal Blizzard. Deals 3063 to 3937 damage every 2 sec. Slows movement speed by 65%, 15 sec duration. Drifts in directions very much like green outdoor dragon sleep cloud. (Binary spell - the damage can be resisted completely or not at all)
Note that once Sapphiron goes below 10% health, he will not fly back up into the air. This is almost certainly to prevent any error with a corpse in the air that may be unlootable. However, he will life drain below 10% health, and if you have him at 10% health, it is likely you'll kill him anyway.
评论来自
Thottbot
The fist weapon he drops Frost fist of the Wyrm its a Off hand right because search it and it shows a guy holding 2
评论来自
Thottbot
Sapphiron is not hard if you know the tactic. I made a group of 13people(all lvl60-62, only the tank 65)and we killed him and Kel'thuzad. This is how we made it:
-Tank was lvl65 paladin
-there were 4 healers(Priest 61, druid 60 , paladin 60 and shaman 61)
-we had no rogue, but we had hunter(that was me), 2warlocks and mage 3 retri paladins and DPS shaman
-in the same group were the 4 healers and the tank
-priest was healing rly good, and when he came out of mana he uses potion, or a druid gives him innervate.
-the druid was healing all the time with regrowth-rejuvenation
-the paladin use SEAL OF WIDSOM and than JUDGEDMENT so when the shaman(healer) attacks gain mana by attacking
-the shaman put his mana totems and attack(gain mana) and heals
-all DPS players were doing as much damage as they could
-The tank was healing him self few times(using shield)
There shouldn't be any problems if you do this Tactic :)
Best Wishes Kostadin
评论来自
Allakhazam
.
Edited, Dec 10th 2007 5:05pm by anthrt
评论来自
Allakhazam
this guy will hit like a truck if you dont have good enough frost resistance, i bet he will do something like shadow flame but with frost damage instead.
评论来自
Allakhazam
So thats where the drape comes from...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is Sapphiron a boss ? if so has he been downed ?
评论来自
Allakhazam
This was a very fun and challenging fight, requiring consumables (on top of a >300 FfR) and people to know what they are doing. With Saph's HP pool it was also very dependent on gear (aside from heavy FfR items) and skill in conserving mana for efficiency.
评论来自
Allakhazam
If anyone is trying to down this boss and cannot find anything on him listen up. Sapphiron is only accessible after you have cleared the all 13 bosses in the four primary quarters of naxx. After that a blue portal will spawn on top of the exit portal. ONCE YOU ENTER FROSTWYRM LAIR YOU CANNOT LEAVE UNTIL YOU BEAT HIM OR DIE!
Sapph has about 4200k hp. He also has a constantly ticking aura that does 1200 frost damage every couple seconds. 300 Frost resist is recomended. If you want to acheive this a lesser flask of resistance + a pally aura or a shammy totem will put you at 180. Then Pick up a piece or two of +100 frost resistance epics off the AH. Sapph has 2 phases.
One he will be cleaving while swiping his tail and summoning moving AOEs to bombard the raid. mind you he may be undead but he is still a dragon. So all DPS should be on ONE side of him. (Other wise his tail will smack everyone behind him and he'll cleave aoe everyone infront of him.) he will summon an Chill AOE about every 10 seconds and while this is going on there will also be a debuff called life drain that he will put on someone that will heal him. Dispell the debuff (it's a curse) and avoid the chill. his hit box is MASSIVE so don't worry about running to far from him when avoiding the chill.
After all that junk is done he will fly above the party and get ready to freeze someone. He will shoot two frostbolts and freeze to people solid. Them will be immune to all damage. Everyone in the raid no matter what they are doing NEEDs to run behind of the ice block. After he freezes the people the raid has 5 seconds to get behind on then he comes down with a massive AOE that instantly kills anyone not behind a block. During all this a chill or two might linger on from phase one and also the aura is still ticking. The raid leader should establish a common ground for everyone to meet up during phase 2 then spread out. The frostbolts do splash damage so have an ample amount of space into between each other but be relativly close so people can get behind you if get ice blocked.
Then he comes down with clear threat. So the tank should grab him and reposition him and eveyr gives the tank a couple seconds to gain threat then rinse and repeat. At 10% HP he stops going into phase 2 to stop corpse glitches. After 15 mins there is a semi enrage timer that increases the tick of the aura from 1200 to 7200 every couple of seconds.
After that its on to the second in command of the scourge. The dark ruler of the dread citadel. The lich Kel'Thuzad... Happy hunting!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Grats Lost Anarchy for downing Sapphiron!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Sapphiron and Kel'thuzad were killed on the test realms using a stat glitch. Check
www.worldofraids.com
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hasn't been legitimately killed yet. Two guilds are on him, though:
Death & Takes - US alliance
Nihilum - EU horde
评论来自
Allakhazam
Yes hes a boss. No he hasnt been downed yet :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
LOL guys look up! hes drop epic and normaly boss.es drop epics! think about that.
评论来自
Allakhazam
DnT downed him world first
评论来自
Allakhazam
- Frost damage aura: ticks for 600 frost damage every 2 seconds on everyone in the raid all the time. Partially resistable (with 315 FrR you will usually take 150 damage per tick). This is the primary mechanism by which he does damage to the raid and it's also why everyone needs to have resists coming out of their wazoo. 300+ FrR on dps is advisable (healers can get by with a little less).
- Roaming blizzard: while Sapphiron is in combat two blizzards will roam the room (a bit like the sleep clouds on green dragons). Suffer ~2.5k frost damage every 2 seconds and movement slowed by 50% when in range of blizzard.
- Cleave: can oneshot cloth casters. Never chain cleave off the MT.
- Tailwhip: this is pretty much standard.
- Drain Life: A very nasty curse. He will curse 5 random targets. The afflicted people suffer 2k shadow damage every 2 seconds (which also heals Sapphiron). Must be dispelled ASAP.
Sapphiron will melee the tank for 70 seconds and then take flight. While in air he will start firing Icebolts.
- Icebolt: ~3k aoe frost damage, 10 yds around the target. Encases the target in an ice block which is very similar to the mage version (invulnerable but unable to act).
Sapphiron will fire 5 Icebolts and then cast an Ice Bomb. He breathes a cloud of frost which slowly floats down to the floor and then explodes.
- Ice Bomb: 100,000 frost damage to everyone in the room who is NOT standing behind an ice block. In short, everyone must hide behind one of the ice blocks caused by earlier Icebolts. Ice Bomb cannot be resisted. This also dispels all ice blocks.
Once Ice Bomb explodes, Sapphiron will land and melee the MT for another 70 seconds, etc., etc.
Sapphiron has ~3,200,000 hp.
Have fun. :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Sapphiron was a blue dragon that Arthas turned undead. You get to use him in WC3:TFT when Arthas goes back to Northrend to defend the Lich King along with Anub'Arak. Arthas and Sapphiron even had some dialogue before they started fighting.
Edited, Jul 29th 2006 at 9:33pm EDT by Eaglebite
评论来自
Allakhazam
death&taxes gave it a shot tho :E
评论来自
Allakhazam
hard #$%^& imo, with worldbuffs with no retards pretty ok.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just haven't figured out how to actually get to Frostwyrm Lair. There's no information online about it. Anyone?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I heard he gives an alternate form of reputation upon killing him, Confirm/deny? if so, which one? (I know he hasn't been killed yet)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Here lies a victim of TBC. Looking at the loot table who would bother disturbing him now....
评论来自
Allakhazam
ZOMG Admin We Need Teh Pick of teh Drag0n!
评论来自
Allakhazam
i was wondering what his cold resistance is?
and how many people it would take to reflect his damage to kill him?
Enjoy the free 100,000 damage to your pool to :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Sapphiron down!
http://66.250.45.101/~dtguild/
评论来自
Allakhazam
Only 2 guilds have reached him to what i know at this moment in time.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Sapphiron's loot:
http://www.worldofraids.com/?page=Nboss&wing=frost&mob=14
评论来自
Allakhazam
someone please post a screenie :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
Death and taxes have indeed killed Sapphiron world first.
http://66.250.45.101/~dtguild/
评论来自
Jossex
Please consider updating this page to a Classic-friendly version. Sapphiron does not drop any items that unlocks zones, and Commander Eligor Dawnbringer is not in Classic.
"Sapphiron is a gigantic undead frost wyrm who guards the entrance to Kel'Thuzad's inner sanctum in Naxxramas.
Sapphiron drops (Item #44569), and (Item #44577), which unlock 10 Player and 25 Player difficulty for (Zone #4500) respectively.
(NPC #27784) says about him:"
评论来自
Rothia
DON'T NERF SAPPHIRON
Posted by Pazorax | WoW Developer | Blizzard Forums | 2020-11-11
Hey everybody!
We recently completed testing
纳克萨玛斯
on the PTR. A big thank you goes out to everyone who helped us find bugs or exploits we could fix before release. We often get questions about how we decide what counts as a bug, and what’s worth changing, so I thought you might enjoy a deep dive into our investigation of
萨菲隆
’s
冰霜光环
.
TLDR for anyone who only wants to know the conclusion: We’re changing the spell to tick every 2 seconds consistently.
When
萨菲隆
is engaged, the entire raid is affected by a
冰霜光环
which reads: “Deals Frost Damage every second”, but many players reported that it should be every 2 seconds. Our first thought was, “that was the Wrath of
巫妖王
version,” but we know that in a game as complicated as WoW, there can be surprising and unexpected interactions, and a lot has changed over the last 15 years. When a current behavior doesn’t match players’ or developers’ memories, it always makes us a little suspicious. Sometimes it turns out our memories are wrong, but we’ve also seen it lead to the uncovering of an unexpected interaction, so, it’s usually worth a look, and that was certainly the case here.
We looked at many old videos, and though some were from the wrong expansion, we were able to find videos that showed the original fight. The videos actually had evidence of both tick rates within the same fight. The
冰霜光环
seemed to
mostly
tick every 2 seconds, but
occasionally
tick once per second for a bit, before returning to ticking every 2 seconds. We also checked in our reference server, and the behavior was the same as we saw in the videos: mostly 2 second ticks, but occasionally a brief streak of 1 second ticks, before returning to 2 second ticks.
Perhaps the most useful clue was this post from WoW game designer Daelo in 2009, in which he describes fixing
萨菲隆
’s
冰霜光环
so that it does “the damage that was seen previous to the 3.0.8 patch”:
"We just hotfixed
萨菲隆
's
冰霜光环
so it should do the damage that was seen previous to the 3.0.8 patch regardless of the size of the raid or your server's performance. This should be 1200 every 2 seconds in Normal, and 1600 every 2 seconds in Heroic. You'll notice that the
冰霜光环
debuff you have no longer has a duration that refreshes. The tooltip also incorrectly lists the damage as occurring every second. The tooltip error will be fixed the next time we make a client patch available."
This certainly suggests that it was doing damage every 2 seconds prior to the 3.0.8 patch, but this was a hotfix to the Wrath of
巫妖王
version of
纳克萨玛斯
. We’ve already found other differences between the original and Wrath of
巫妖王
versions of
纳克萨玛斯
, so while this post was helpful, it wasn’t enough to satisfy us on its own. It contained an important clue about the debuff duration refreshing, which led us to suspect the DoT refresh might be clipping the damage tick. In WoW Classic, when you refresh a DoT, it resets the timer on the periodic damage, and can cause you to miss ticks, and since the
冰霜光环
has a 5 second duration that gets reset throughout the fight. It was a good bet that the damage timer was getting reset then too. Of course, we already reproduced that behavior in WoW Classic, so that still didn’t explain the discrepancy between the two.
At that point, we dug further into the game code and found the difference in the way
萨菲隆
re-applies the Aura. In both reference and WoW Classic, the aura re-application was done as part of an Action Trigger which fires every 2 seconds. However, in the original code, action triggers share a timer with periodic spell ticks, and action triggers were always processed first. In modern code, they run on independent timers, so a long-running action script won’t delay a spell tick.
This meant that when
萨菲隆
re-applied the
冰霜光环
in reference, it was
guaranteed
to clip the damage tick that was about to happen, leading to every other tick getting skipped. In modern code, the damage tick and the reapplication are both scheduled to occur at the same time, but are controlled by two separate timers, so either one might happen first. It just so happens that in this encounter, the reapplication generally happens
after
the DoT tick on the same second, so that players got the full damage on every tick, instead of every other tick.
But this mystery isn’t solved yet. What about those occasional one second ticks we saw in the original videos and in the reference server. They were rare, but if the reference code is guaranteed to do the refresh before the damage tick, how were they ever ticking at once a second? It turns out that the
冰霜光环
application didn’t always succeed, and if it failed, the existing DoT happily ticked away doing damage once per second until the next refresh attempt 2 seconds later, like this:
Time (seconds)
Event
Damage
0
Aura #1 Applied
0
1
Aura #1 ticks
600
2
Aura #2 Applied (clips Aura #1)
0
3
Aura #2 ticks
600
4
Aura #3 fails (Aura #2 ticks)
600
5
Aura #2 ticks
600
6
Aura #4 Applied (clips Aura #2)
0
7
Aura #4 ticks
600
Since
萨菲隆
is 3 levels higher than the player, the spell can only miss 1% of the time, but that’s what explained the occasionally 1 second ticks we saw in the videos, and with our reference.
We also reached out to the original designer, who still works at Blizzard, on a different game team. After we described our findings, he agreed that the
intended
behavior was for the damage to be every second, and the fact that the reapplication of the aura was clipping a tick of the DoT was a bug that wasn’t noticed or fixed until Wrath of
巫妖王
.
So where do we go from here? We often must carefully consider a conflict between original intent and original behavior. There’s no one right answer in all cases, but for this case, the original behavior is the correct decision, and we plan to fix this in much the same way Daelo did in Wrath of
巫妖王
. In modern code, we have a way to reliably apply an aura that deals damage every 2 seconds as long as the boss is alive, and we’ll re-write this ability to use that method, just as Daelo did in Wrath of
巫妖王
.
While the behavior that led to it originally occurring every 2 seconds instead of every 1 second was a bug, it was consistent enough as to be indistinguishable from a text bug in the Aura description. Choosing to go with the original intent would result in almost twice as much damage as players experienced in 2006, so in the end that makes this decision pretty clear.
I hope you enjoyed that trip through our development process. See you in Azeroth!
DON'T NERF SAPPHIRON
Posted by Pazorax | WoW Developer | Blizzard Forums | 2020-11-12
Hey everybody,
I wanted to drop in and give one more update. Astute readers of my earlier post may have noticed that the original implementation had a 1% to do an extra tick of damage, and while that’s pretty minor on
average
, taking an extra tick of 600 damage can create a dangerous
streak
that can make the fight significantly harder, especially if you don’t have much
冰霜抗性
.
I’m really happy to share with you that after I made my post, our newest team member added an effect that exactly reproduces the 1% chance to have an extra tick of frost damage, so you’ll have something even more true to the original difficulty.
Watch out for those damage streaks! It’s cold in there!
Blizzard:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/dont-nerf-sapphiron/709636/48
Wowhead:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/news=319065/wow-classic-deep-dive-into-sapphirons-frost-aura-frost-damage-dealt-every-2-seco
评论来自
Rothia
TRACKING THE FIRST WOW CLASSIC NAXXRAMAS KILLS
Posted by Kaivax | Community Manager | Blizzard Forums | 2020-12-04
We’ve really enjoyed following along as the first guilds in the world completed each wing of Naxxramas, and then the final bosses.
Here’s what we’ve seen so far:
Guild
Realm
Region
Time
The Plague Wing:
洛欧塞布
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.
Rise
Netherwind
Americas
(2:13:39 PM PST)
2.
Bunnings Warehouse
Arugal
Oceania
(2:14:13 PM PST)
3.
gusy
Golemagg
EU
(2:14:14 PM PST)
4.
Risen
Whitemane
Americas
(2:15:01 PM PST)
5.
Quasar
Noggenfogger
EU
(2:16:36 PM PST)
The Spider Wing:
迈克斯纳
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.
Innuendo
Razorgore
EU
(2:20:53 PM PST)
2.
APES
Gehennas
EU
(2:21:34 PM PST)
3.
Storm
Herod
Americas
(2:22:20 PM PST)
4.
JP
Firemaw
EU
(2:23:23 PM PST)
5.
举杯邀月
Dagger Hills
China
(2:24:29 PM PST)
The Abomination Wing:
塔迪乌斯
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.
Progress
Firemaw
EU
(2:21:32 PM PST)
2.
Onslaught
Skeram
Americas
(2:21:49 PM PST)
3.
Fully Rested
Pagle
Americas
(2:23:53 PM PST)
4.
Noobs
Huhuran
China
(2:24:38 PM PST)
4.
Эксодус
Chromie
Russia
(2:24:38 PM PST)
The Deathknight Wing:
The Four Horsemen
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.
Rampage
Fairbanks
Americas
(2:42:37 PM PST)
2.
Progress
Firemaw
EU
(2:43:39 PM PST)
3.
《韶光》
Ouro
China
(3:02:39 PM PST)
4.
Rise
Netherwind
Americas
(3:02:51 PM PST)
5.
oWN
Arugal
Oceania
(3:11:06 PM PST)
Frostwyrm Lair:
萨菲隆
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.
Progress
Firemaw
EU
(3:16:34 PM PST)
2.
Tribe
Sulfuron
EU
(3:42:00 PM PST)
3.
Onslaught
Skeram
Americas
(3:45:20 PM PST)
Frostwyrm Lair:
克尔苏加德
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.
Progress
Firemaw
EU
(3:26:49 PM PST)
2.
Tribe
Sulfuron
EU
(3:53:34 PM PST)
3.
Onslaught
Skeram
Americas
(3:55:41 PM PST)
Well done!
BLIZZARD POST:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/tracking-the-first-wow-classic-naxxramas-kills/754613
评论来自
krikcrack
not shown here is an item that drops from this boss called fists of the unrelenting that dropped only after TBC prepatch went live
冷酷之拳
3D查看
链接
萨菲隆
这个 NPC 能在这些地区找到:
纳克萨玛斯
.
收获
杀死此 NPC 后您可获得:
1,000
点
银色黎明
声望
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Naxxramas Loot
Sapphiron - Naxxramas WOTLK Classic Strategy Guide
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