评论来自 Bigblue

This is one of the trinkets acquired by defeating four bosses in the Edge of Madness section of Zul'Gurub. The bosses are Gri'lek, Renataki, Wushoolay, and Hazza'rah. Each two weeks the current Edge of Madness boss changes in a predictable rotation, so constructing this trinket takes a minimum of six weeks. Most would consider it well worth the time invested, as this trinket will scale well to level 70 and beyond.

Renataki's has too long a cooldown to be a useful PvE DPS trinket, but it's a monster in PvP, especially in 1v1 fights. It does not share a cooldown with Thistle Tea.

评论来自 6757

Agreed. The Warrior (+30 rage), Rogue and Hunter (Aimed/Multi cooldowns reset) are real gems of PVP trinkets, while a few casters' (notably the Druid) trinkets have niches in PVE as well for extra heal throughput.

Also, 4 bosses is an 8-week (month and a half) rotation for a full trinket. Assuming you get your part each boss rotation. (Hope you don't have to roll against the raid each time!)

评论来自 9434

From what I have read on the World of Warcraft forums, this trinket is going to be scaled with level 70 and will only give 40 energy. It will still be nice in PvP and the new arenas. How many times has that extra boost given us what we needed to finish off someone in stunlock?

评论来自 50183

Edge of madness seems bugged, bosses don't spawn =( Please update here if you ever get the event to work.

评论来自 70137

yo yo yo, how exactly do i make this. im jsut about to go into zg :/

评论来自 arco

Anyone have any input on how this thing performs at level 70?

评论来自 veno3

Nerfed in 2.4.2

Live - 40 Energy
PTR - 20 Energy

评论来自 70784

LOL because every rogue has one? WTF is blizz thinking nerfing this again!

评论来自 veno3

You are whining about a reduced effect change on a ZUL'GURUB trinket.
ZG could be pugged with no effort at level 60 let alone 70, the item was too good for where it came from, simple as that.

What i'd like to see is class trinkets from PvP, maybe the Rogue version would have this effect? Would be nice.

评论来自 infernalx

TIme to look for a new trinket my fellow mutilate rogues.

RIP Old renataki's

评论来自 63289

Good luck finding a new replacement for this trinket. Blizzard nerfed it down intentionally to take the power out of it in Arenas. I guess Kalgan got beat down by a mutilate rogue in an Arena match and did this.

评论来自 Thottbot

Cooldown: 3 minutes

评论来自 Thottbot

Do you get the quest just from picking the items? or do i have to find the quest ?

评论来自 Thottbot

Woo, free thistle tea! -ish

评论来自 Thottbot

Even though its really nice to get a 60 energy boost, is really that useful in pve? I am sure its great for dueling and pvp but I can Hardly find any use of it in pve. If the cooldow was like 30 seconds, then yes, I'd consider it. 1 extra Backstab every 3 mins will not make such a big diference.

评论来自 Thottbot

I have seen this used in a Pvp video, and it absolutely owns when combined with 5 pieces of nightslayer and a vigor build for 120 energy. My only question is, could anyone who has it post really specific instructions as to the time frame and requirements as they are kinda hazy. Thanks

评论来自 Thottbot

Is this trinket really worth all the grinding in ZG to get considering how similar it is to Thistle Tea? Yea sure, this is like free Thistle Tea...but Thistle Tea isn't expensive to make.

https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=2809/monster-mace-spiked-basic

Help me out here, this is the only item in ZG that you can't equal or replace from MC/BWL so I'm wondering if it's worth the bother. Right now I'd say "no" but interested in counter-opinion.

评论来自 Thottbot

The reason this is better than thistle tea is simple. It is instant, while the tea has a little 1 sec animation of your guy swigging bak the drink, while you can continue to stab while yo use the trinket. All you see above you is little blue sparks, and you get a quick boost of energy. The only downside to this, is it only 60 energy as opposed to 100, but as they are on different timers, you can take both in a fight, so it really doesnt matter.

评论来自 Thottbot

This is well worth the grind in ZG. Thistle tea is either very expensive to buy or very time consuming to farm. The cooldown on tea is 5 minutes and this is 3 minutes. I doubt I will stop using tea after I get this >:)

I only have the NS +energy not vigor as im an ambush/backstab rogue. to me this trinket means one thing. a free backstab.

Ambush > Backstab > Trinket > Backstab.

you could change it slightly..

Ambush > Backstab > Trinket > Backstab > Tea > Backstab > Eviscerate.

whatever way you comine this with your abilities and spec it spells certain death for any clothie you use it on. I 2 shot most of them as it is.

评论来自 Thottbot

instead of posting 1000 different combos with this trinket, could someone be so kind to post what 4 Pieces it requires?..

I can understand their from the summoned boss at Edge of Madness in ZG...

Thx

评论来自 Thottbot

i got mine today and this rocks...100% pvp trinket.
there is so little info on it i decided to make this post.

there are 4 edge of madness boss's in total( these are 100% independent of the rest of ZG and may be bypassed alltogher)
the 4 bosses may be summoned only 1 at a time.
each boss has a 2 week "window" in which he may be summoned.
so for example.
1st to 15th of jan will be gri'lek.
16th to 31st of jan will be hazza'rah.
1st to 15th of feb will be renataki.
16th to 29th of feb will be wushoolay.
they come in Alphabetical order.

so yes it takes TWO MONTHS to complete a single trinket.
failure to summon a boss in the 2 week window will result in another wait of of the 2 month period......

to summon the boss you need to use a
these are made by alch's who learn the recipe in ZG itself by the alter.
MATS REQ:
1X blood of heroes.
1x massive mojo
6x powerfull mojo
1x black lotus.
this will make enough pots for 3 summons.

after killing each boss he will drop 1-3 pieces of his body parts.1 been needed from each boss for each player collecting his trinket.
it is possible to summon each boss 4 times in his 2 week window.so it is possible for 12 players to get there piece each 2 week window.(the chances of that happening are ultra slim)

as you can see to collect all 4 pieces (and you allso need your class doll from ZG as well)is gonna be a pain in the arse if all the guild wnted them.when you have all 4 pieces and your doll you just right click them to make your trinket(all need to be in your bag ofc)
it's graphics are green sparks and lighting when the trinket is activated.it's cooldown is 3 mins.at the top of this page you will see all the "shared cooldowns".i have this trinket and earthstrike,a shared cooldown means you have to wait 20 secs inbetween trinkets.

for all you critics out there who just love to slag off epics that you have never used
download this movie and learn........
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=27354
this is easyly 1 of the best rogue movie by far.both in skill and editing.enjoy

groinslasher...Eonar realm.

EDIT!
After the last pre-patch before TBC this trinket now only restores 40 energy.!

评论来自 Thottbot

is it worth it at 70 ?

and what about the new expansion ? it will give me 20 energy at level 80 ?

评论来自 Thottbot

ah crap. im lvl 70 and i wanna get my hands on this one for pvp.. truly a free thistle tea + i can use both in a battle.. this and the tea is slightly overpowered imo :> i like it

评论来自 Thottbot

edge of madness works fine, at least since 2 months ago.
I just completed mine today, it is still the best mutilate trinket really, its alot of burst. im definately happy i got it made

评论来自 Thottbot

Is it possible to 5 man all the 4 mini-bosses at lvl 70(My guilds gear is like t4+...)? I watched to much "Grim - Total Anihilation" and I want it :-(

评论来自 Allakhazam

how long does this effect last for or is it permanant?

if you are an assasin rogue fully speced then you usually drain energy so this could help loads, overall i believe you would have a total of 170 energy........ WOOOT!

评论来自 Allakhazam

THIS + VIGOR + NS 5 PIECE + THISTLE TEA = 300 ENERGY = GG !

评论来自 Allakhazam

Doesn't it increase your total energy? Since it says "increase" not "restores"?
And most prolly it won't break stealth.

Edited, Thu Feb 16 06:58:32 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Seems like a lot of work and a waste of a ring slot for basically a thistle tea.

评论来自 Allakhazam

err, I doubt it increases your max energy by 60..it just gives you 60 energy, sort of like a Thistle Tea, only 60 energy though.

评论来自 Allakhazam

"LOL!

FYI 100 energy is a full bar"

yea and the earth is flat.

Edited, Wed Sep 28 22:55:33 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

This trinket is awesome, an extra backstab per fight will win a lot of fights and make people cry baby tears that you used tea but you really didnt. Also the work to get it isnt that bad if you run ZG, the boss for the quest items changes every tuesday. All I need now is wuushoolay's mane.

评论来自 Allakhazam

the trinket is ok... it is definitally not epic quality, and is a lot more work to get than it's worth.

评论来自 Allakhazam

very great item if you can cast tea and this without cooldown on each other. getting extra backstap is much better then a minor mod. but it is useless if tea puts a cooldown on this. tea is slightly easier to get, and does more...(60 in cooking, 2silver pattern off vendor)

评论来自 Allakhazam

Life > Katjusha

评论来自 Allakhazam

uuhh, how long does this "increase" last for. Im hoping its like, 10 seconds. thats just what we need, more rogue gear to kep you in stun lock longer and to kill you faster.

评论来自 Allakhazam

does anyone know the cooldown for this thing? Wonder if its worth changing form AP/crit-trinkets that have a permanent effect...

Edited, Fri Sep 16 05:40:40 2005

评论来自 Allakhazam

Thistle Tea restore 100 Energy ...
Better to wear in trinket some other thing, that gives another 1 or 2% chance to crit.

评论来自 Allakhazam

i was just wondering how to get this, cuz i have the voodoo doll and the description up there doesnt really help if anyone wants to help me out post here. Thanks

评论来自 Allakhazam

the cooldown on this thing is 3 min, and it just give you 60 energy, as a lil tea, not increasing your max energy for a short period ... (unfortunatly :'( )

评论来自 Allakhazam

Cooldown isn't 20 seconds, its 3 minutes, it would be ridicoules if it was 20 seconds.

This trinket will restore less and less energy as you get to 70, part of blizzard's plan to linearize nice level 60 trinket to they don't remain as good at 70 as they are now.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This item is realy great.
5 items of Nightslayer
Vigor
and this nice trinket and you get 180 ENERGIE!

Ambush
Backstab
Backstab

评论来自 Allakhazam

omg, hunter weapon noobs

评论来自 Allakhazam

whats its cd?

评论来自 Allakhazam

They should have written instantly restores 60 energy, not increases. Oh well, good trinket.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Still the best trinket for PvP orientated rogues.

评论来自 Allakhazam

This is like the Thisle Tea but adds only 60 instead of 100, which basicly means you can get an extra backstab in every 3min. Not that great... not worth switching out my other trinks which add +2 chance to hit and +2 chance to crit.

评论来自 Allakhazam

Hunter item.

评论来自 Allakhazam

CD is 20secs

评论来自 Allakhazam

if any one has this or have had it, and used it ofcourse, can u tell me the cooldown?

评论来自 Allakhazam

its not really that bad, 1 extra Backstab(or ambush if you vanish) every 3min, also the fact that you will most likily have the other 4 pieces of the Madcap's Outfit set, 5/5 Decreases the energy cost of Eviscerate and Rupture by 5, along with its Use: it makes it pretty darn good.

评论来自 Allakhazam

if you spec right, everyone infront of you=dead, another 2% crit works out to be less than the 500-1000 you backstab for every 3 minutes,

this trinket is teh pwnzor

评论来自 Allakhazam

so this restores energy, not increases? >.>

评论来自 Allakhazam

3minutes cooldown

评论来自 Allakhazam

Have anyone tested if this trinket is usuable while stealthed? If not, could anyone please try to use it in stealth and see if it takes you out of stealth?

I do a lot of PvP and when I'm facing 2 opponents, using my improved sap takes 65 energy away. If I wait until this is regained the Sap has almost worn off. I could really see a use for this trinket if it allowed me to:

Sap -> Use trinket -> my normal stunlock combo on target #2.

Edited, Sun Jan 22 20:26:36 2006

评论来自 Allakhazam

Fyi the Vigor talent adds 10 energy, as does the 5 piece NS bonus, meaning you can have up to 120 total energy capacity, noob.

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