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评论来自
Cianxo
According to my testing with RatingBuster, I derived that one spirit equals to 0,564375 mp5.
According to other comments, this trinket gives 29805 mana on use, or 828mp5
. Text below is updated to compare with this new number over the Wowhead's reported 17201 (or 477,8mp5)
Thus, we can compare
骄阳之魂
and
赤精圣物
, previous top choices for regen.
As the moment of writing this, 5.2 raid trinkets remain a mystery.
骄阳之魂
provides an average of 967 spirit, or 545,8 mp5. Over the course of 3 minutes, it averages into 19647 mana. Less due to it not proccing instantly (altough, on-use trinkets may be left unnoticed, and, at the very least, unable to be procced midcast). Fully upgraded heroic Spirits gives an average of 1599,8 spirit, or 902,9mp5. Fully upgraded heroic spirits is better, which is no surprise since the ilvl is mere 5 off, and the other is heroic raid drop.
赤精圣物
provides average of 1210,8 spirit, or 683,3 mp5. Again, if we run it over the course of 3 minutes, it averages into 24600 mana, thus this new trinket is better than our Darkmoon card, unless you benefit more from short-term spirit procs (like pre-5.2 disc priest raptures, old mana tide..) over raw mana. However, if you have upgraded your Relic fully you can expect it to provide up to 1449,3 average spirit, or 818mp5. This Soothing Talisman will also hold 221 intellect more.
And since some raiders may prefer
秦希的偏振之印
over abovementioned, it gives flat out 1079 static spirit, or 609 mp5, going for 21922,6 mana over the course of 3 minutes. Qin-xi, fully upgraded provides 1312 spirit, or 740,5mp5.
(Added 9th of February:)
Now that we have some knowledge of 5.2 raid trinkets, we can now see that Blizzard is again deducting our possibilities to go for manaprocs - three trinkets, one of them proccing mana, one of them having static spirit and one pure throughput;
赫利东的垂死之息
will provide us 4780 mana every time it procs. However, ICD is unknown. Hopefully I will come and update this once we know the ICD. Throwing arbiturary number of 30 sec ICD (yes, it's odd number, I do not recall other trinkets having that number), it would provide 796,7 mp5. This is for the normal version.
九头蛇卵的铭文袋
provides static 1467 spirit, or 827,9mp5, with an intersting absorb proccing mechanic as throughput proc.
Finally, we have
闪电圣杯
as a full throughput option for those who deem themselves having enough spirit, and/or fight rendering spirit useless for reason or another.
TL;DR: Better than anything pre-5.2, with exception of fully upgraded
骄阳之魂
.
评论来自
Extremity
The latest PTR build shows lists this trinket as giving
29,805
mana on use, a very significant increase of
12,604
from the
17,201
mana currently shown here (at the time of this post).
When used on cooldown every cooldown, this increases the trinkets MP5 value to ~
828
mp5.
评论来自
perculia
All trinkets are now displaying correct procs/uses. The base value which can be accessed on spell ID pages displays what the proc/use would be in a Challenge Mode.(##RESPBREAK##)2##DELIM##perculia##DELIM##
评论来自
1037150
Does not cause a CD with your mana pots, you can use them back to back.
评论来自
Psiihosoft
By Cianxo (1,914 – 7·24) on 2013/02/06
Spirits of the Sun provides an average of 967 spirit, or 545,8 mp5. Over the course of 3 minutes, it averages into 19647 mana.
This is wrong data which put basic version of this trinket far behind Relic of Chi-Ji.
If u use same formula for both trinkets u will find both of them very similar mp5.
Spirits of the Sun: 1152 int + 1256 spirit average (20/110*6908)
Relic of Chi-Ji: 1157 int + 1210.8 spirit average (20/50*3027)
This are numbers if we counting an average of 5 seconds before they proc. (ICDs: 45+5, 105+5)
Now question is which 1 is better for mana regen... it all depends which 1 better fit in duration of your next fight since ICD are much diferent 45vs105 sec.
评论来自
elitest
March 12th they
hotfixed
the trinkets that drop in ToT:
Increased the activation chance for intellect and spirit trinkets from Throne of Thunder by 5%.
Haven't done the math but I assume they are doing this to make
影踪突袭营的抚慰护符
(a valor trinket) and MV/ToES trinkets less or as desirable as the Throne of Thunder raid trinkets.
评论来自
halgarth
The on use effect triggers this spell
Lifeblood
, for those of you wanting to track it or just curious.
评论来自
388120
Ok, so I was looking at buying this trinket and wanted to ballpark it's performance. What follows here is a theoretical situation that will allow a direct comparison between this trinket and others available to healers. A buffer of proc/on use time is added to simulate actual performance.
赤精圣物
- Passive
Intellect:
1157
Spirit Proc:
3027
Duration:
20 Seconds
ICD:
45 seconds
(3027*20)/(45+5) = 1210.8 Spirit
骄阳之魂
- Passive
Intellect:
1152
Spirit Proc:
6908
Duration:
20 Seconds
ICD:
105 seconds
(6908*20)/(105+5) = 1256.0 Spirit
玉质女乐俑
- Active
Intellect:
1079
Spirit Proc:
3595
Duration:
15 Seconds
CD:
60 seconds
(3595*15)/(60+5) = 829.6 Spirit
影踪突袭营的抚慰护符
- Active
Intellect:
1467
Mana Gain:
29805
CD:
180 seconds
This trinket will vary immensely with fight length. For analysis, it is assumed you aren't using this near the very beginning of the fight and it is also assumed that there is about a 10 second lag from CD to usage. These spirit values were back calculated using spirit -> MP5 for priest which is about
0.5643MP5 per spirit COMBAT.
6min-1uses - 733.6 Spirit
6min-2uses - 1467.2 Spirit
7min-2uses - 1257.6 Spirit
8min-2uses - 1100.4 Spirit
8min-3uses - 1650.6 Spirit
9min-3uses - 1467.2 Spirit
10min-3uses - 1388.6 Spirit
A safe assumption is that most fights will fall into the ~1400 spirit range.
九头蛇卵的铭文袋
- 1467 Base Spirit - NO static intellect or procced intellect. Throughput is via a shield effect.
赫利东的垂死之息
- Unknown ICD - However, I'd expect this trinket to be balanced around the similar "spirit" mark as the Soothing Talisman given it's in the same tier.
秦希的偏振之印
- Essentially reverse Relic. 1079 Base Spirit with an 3236 Int Proc. I don't like this type of trinket because spirit procs even out over the course of a fight, intellect does not. This proc could be useful at a high damage time, and could also be not useful in a low damage time effectively wasting it. Static int is always useful.
Summary / Rankings
影踪突袭营的抚慰护符
~1400+ Spirit
赫利东的垂死之息
~1400+ Spirit (Estimated)
九头蛇卵的铭文袋
-1467 Spirit
(
NO
static or procced Int)
骄阳之魂
~1256 Spirit
赤精圣物
~1210.8 Spirit
秦希的偏振之印
-1079 Spirit
玉质女乐俑
~829.6 Spirit
评论来自
Zaltran
Question for all the maths buffs on this site, for those of us who wish to compare this to LFR trinkets is this actually better than trikets such as:
九头蛇卵的铭文袋
or
祖达萨的失窃遗物
As looking at the mana given by this coupled with the CD I wouldn't have said it's as good as
拆线者奖章
due to the CD of it being only one minute. However I could very well be wrong.
Help me out a little as this whole MP5 maths confuses me. :)
评论来自
1119067
骄阳之魂
spirit = 6908 / 105 ICD x 20 sec duration = 1315 spirit rather than 967 quoted above
评论来自
1119067
骄阳之魂
spirit = 6908 / 105 ICD x 20 sec duration = 1315 spirit rather than 967 quoted above
评论来自
ozvwr
Does anyone know the spellid of the ability?
评论来自
Xsevilinside
Comparison between this and the
赤精之祈
影踪突袭营的抚慰护符
Total
Comparison
Intellect
1467
-190
eMP5
1004
+172
赤精之祈
Total
Comparison
Intellect
1657
+190
eMP5
876
-172
Worth noting that you can use
赤精之祈
earlier due to the lower cooldown and rolling spirit, which may make up for the difference in mana gain.
*eMP5 is effective MP5, i.e. how much mana regen the use is worth when averaged out.
评论来自
maely
Did some quick number-crunching today because I was curious about Challenge Mode/Proving Ground trinkets. Now, due to the way item level downscaling works, you're going to want to avoid ppm trinkets such as Horridon's Last Gasp. For every single one of these trinkets, I added five seconds to the stated cooldown to allow for a few seconds delay in proc or in activation by the user.
Relic of Chi-Ji: 1025in, 894spr
Empty Fruit Barrel: 847in, 847spr
Spirits of the Sun: 847in, 847spr
Qin-Xi's Polarizing Seal: 847in, 847spr
Soothing Talisman of the Shado-Pan Assault: 847in, 823spr
Price of Progress: 847in, 750spr
Vial of Ichorous Blood: 847in, 679spr
Contemplation of Chi-Ji: 847in, 669spr
Scroll of Revered Ancestors: 847in, 651spr
The Empty Fruit Barrel is assumed to have an icd of 35sec, and remember that I added +5 to make one proc every ~40sec.
The Price of Progress was calculated assuming one proc every (55+5)sec and multiplying the effective mp5 by 1.77.
The Soothing Talisman was calculated assuming one use every (180+5)sec and multiplying the effective mp5 by 1.77.
Long story short, the Relic of Chi-Ji is definitely the best Challenge Mode healer trinket available. After the Relic of Chi-Ji, I would next look at the Fruit Barrel, one of the 5.0 LFR trinkets, or the Soothing Talisman trinket. All are about equal.
评论来自
varmin
Currently bugged and I believe restoring the old 11k mana (the tooltip didn't update in live either).
Probably one of best trinkets until they fix as mana pool is now 37k at level 90, so almost 1/3rd of your mana pool every 3 minutes is pretty decent.
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