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评论来自
29034
...Dear god...
That is one truckload of stats, on a helm.
/baffled
评论来自
Manestone
What a waste of stats with that 91 Stamina
If they could replace that with something better for dps it'd be a much better pve helm imo
评论来自
176208
There better be a shaman version >_>
This will be perfect for entering Naxx as enhancement.
评论来自
193179
Ouch, BoE.
Go for it, goldbuyers...
评论来自
Hegs
with more .17 more crit and 1.1% more haste at the cost of 26 ap,
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=41344
might see more use than this helm from titan gripping warriors needing to negate the 20% slower attack speed
评论来自
soontobeDK
Looking at the Mats to make it, Ill be seeing everyone wearing this in WotLK.
评论来自
199086
you guys are forgetting that titansteel
requires 3 titanium bars, 3 eternal earth, and 1 eternal water AND is also a 20-hour cooldown. So it wont be as common as you think
评论来自
Divyraen
A Plate dps helm with a truckload of agility. As tempting as the Strength on the gear may look, I doubt the helm will have a high dps value due to the stat points wasted on agility.
Unless somehow Blizz makes agility more useful towards warriors/ret pallies/death knights, I don't see how this is going to be a decent helm. Some blue may well have better plate dps stats.
评论来自
jeddic
This looks amazing. I want one.
评论来自
10128
Agility is a terrible stat for all plate wearers. It gives less critical strike than critical strike rating, and does not affect spells.
The only bonus is the fact that it increases armor, but only very slightly.
Obviously here the Agility is meant to replace the Stamina that is missing,
but critical strike rating or expertise rating would have been better.
Not meant to be an optimal piece of gear though i guess.
评论来自
Wallstreet86
While agility certainly Isn't a main dps stat for warriors or most melee classes you have to look at it from another side...They removed all stam for offensive abilities and to balance it to be good but not so good that players would never replace them even if they found helms with much more item level they simply filled up the item level with agility which is a decent but not great offensive stat.
The agility in this case acts as a buffert: 100% offensive stats but a portion is from the gimped stat agility. Personally I get it why they did this, but of course it will be kind of an eye sore because you know what could have been if it all was put on fully offensive stats.
I do agree with the above comment of simply putting crit/stam instead of agility(some crit)/no stam.
评论来自
31182
For some classes/specs, such as Retribution Paladins, this is currently the best helm in the game -- including 25-man raids -- by a fairly significant margin if you are not currently hit capped (which for ret Paladins, is 296 Hit rating).
评论来自
146254
I don't think some people realize that the agility on this helmet is actually pretty nice from any DPS plate wearer's point of view. Speaking from a warrior's perspective, it takes 62.5 agility to get 1% crit. Any warrior who gets this helm is going to use the meta slot, so there's 6 more agility, which brings the total to 66 agility, therefore, 1% crit. So the agility on this helmet is NOT a waste, and I for one am loving the agility that I am seeing on plate now.
评论来自
Valpants
Ugh, I came here looking for one of those handy base mat posts but there is none so here we go using the simplest mats (not transmuting for titanium bars:
8x
Saronite Ore
12x
Titanium Bar
(24x
Titanium Ore
)
4x
Eternal Earth
(40x
Crystallized Earth
)
4x
Eternal Shadow
(40x
Crystallized Shadow
)
4x
Eternal Fire
(40x
Crystallized Fire
)
1x
Frozen Orb
评论来自
181677
Nice how this is the only one of the three epic crafted BS helms with a meta socket. /cry
评论来自
66086
I honestly don't understand why would people whine about this helm not having any stamina. If you want to PvP, it's useless more or less as it has no resilience, if you want to PvE... well, let's just say that if you need loads of stamina... you are getting hit often, and that means that someone is not doing their job.
评论来自
Aurrius
I highly suggest, if you're upgrading from blue/green gear, grabbing another epic simultaneously to compensate for the lack of crit on this item.
评论来自
118697
This is currently the best Retribution Paladin helmet in the game. It's even better than
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=40576
due to the massive amount of agility instead of stamina.
With
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=44149
from Knights of the Ebon Blade and
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=41285
in the meta socket this helmet provides (for a ret paladin with 5/5 Divine Strength):
2.16% Crit
310 Attack Power
60 Hit Rating
3% increased critical damage
评论来自
Wallstreet86
I want evidence from them a few posts earlier stating agility is better than crit rating for dps warriors and saying I´m an idiot for wanting(wishlist) crit rating instead of agility :)
评论来自
38539
stats are worth it even for a death knight, the hit on it means you can balance out with tiems less likely to have hit on them but have greater stats and this helm provides a full force of nice stats on it to get you started along with the bonus of hit rating.
- Frozeneko (Terenas EU)
评论来自
galvin
This helmet is getting nerfed in the upcomming patch.
http://www.wotlkwiki.info/forum/showthread.php?t=5141
113str becomes 97str
评论来自
201199
It is an awesome helm! With &*!@loads of AP and armor (+Agility for armor).
Too bad it is no stamina on it tho. And only the meta wich makes u unable to stam socket it.
60 hit is damn nice on warr. Since the hit reduction on
Titan's Grip
will be gone next patch. Makes you able to stack up Ap and crit :)
It is by the way pretty cheap to make too. 4x
Titansteel Bar
s, 4x
Saronite Bar
s and only one
Frozen Orb
(Wich you will get loads of if you do heroics).
评论来自
Fugazi
Currently on PTR this helmet have following stats:
1821 Armor
97 STR
60 hit rating
44 crit rating
meta socket
blue socket
(socket bonus 8 crit rating)
So in comparison we get:
-16 STR
- 66 AGI
+ 44/52 crit rating (depends if you use blue gem)
+ blue socket
So real difference is:
66 AGI vs 44 crit rating
A slight nerf but nothing major.
评论来自
danroe
Kinda rememinds me of
Asterix's
helm.
Wish there was a potion wich made you inmue to all... ohwait there is.
Only i don't remember it's name.
评论来自
135219
According to wow insider in the next patch the stats will change.
-The agility will be removed
- a blue socket will be added
- increased critical strike chance will be added to compensate for the agility loss
now if only it had some stamina because i lost 800+plus health after equipping this ><
评论来自
5372
it sure isn't a nerf for rets. it's a huge buff imho. lot's of your damage is from spells really and crit rating gives spell crit as well.
taken from
http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t37843-retribution_paladin_thread_wrath_3_0_a/
Crit See Observations
We are quite reliant on critical strikes to do damage. You can never really have too much crit, but it is not worth gemming for it, gem for STR instead. You need 45.9 crit rating to gain 1% crit at 80. This stat gains no benefits from raid buffs, but you get more per itemization point from crit than you do AGI. This stat also increases your spell crit rating, making it flat out superior to AGI.
评论来自
PinktheDK
Also, another note on this helmet - it seems to have a minor gap in the model on the helmet's "wings", at least when viewed from behind.
评论来自
212855
This was nerfed disgustingly hard for patch 3.0.8
The previous stats were :
1821 Armor
+113 Strength
+60 Agility
Meta Socket
Socket Bonus +6 Agility
Equip: Improves hit rating by 60
The new stats are:
1821 Armor
+97 Strength
Meta Socket
Blue Gem Socket
Socket Bonus +8 Critical Strike Rating
Equip: Improves hit rating by 60.
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 44.
I suppose the addition of the Blue gem socket allows for a JC/BS to enhance the helm with a Bold Dragon's Eye (+27 STR), but this seems like a pretty drastic change over all, considering the additional bonuses derived from agility besides critical strike rating.
评论来自
172160
Due to patch 3.0.8 you can now add a blue gem into this helm!
评论来自
278823
Anyone still getting the 6 agi socket bonus?
评论来自
93917
considering the additional bonuses derived from agility besides critical strike rating.
Which let's face it, for what this helmet is for (PvE DPS), isn't all that beneficial.
For Paladins, Warriors and Death Knights, it only increases crit chance, armor and dodge rating, of which armor and dodge isn't that useful when you're involved in hurting stuff without it attacking you. Warriors and Death Knights require 62.5 agility to get 1% crit chance, so this helmet gives pretty much the same amount of crit chance now. Only paladins lose out since they require only 52 agility per 1% crit chance (don't ask me why, that's what wowwiki says).
Overall, I'd say that this item is around the same, if a tiny bit better, for warriors and Death knights due to the blue socket, and a tiny bit of a nerfed item for Retri paladins, since they lose a little strength and a little crit chance which I'm not sure the blue slot compensates entirely. It's not that much of a nerf though...
评论来自
88618
This was nerfed disgustingly hard for patch 3.0.8
Yeah, not really buying that.
Lets look at the Agi/crit. 1% Crit = 45.9 Crit rating = 62.5 agi. So the old helm had 66 agi for 1.06% Crit, and 1.16% crit with BoK up. The new helm has 44 and potentially 52 crit rating for 0.96% or 1.13% Overall its a 0.2% change in crit from worst case to best case, almost negligable.
For the STR/AP, you are 16 STR behind the old helm, quickly rectified by a 16 STR gem. You have basically the same helm, you are just 0.1 or 0.2% lower in crit.
So losing 0.2% crit is "disgustingly hard" ?
Also, consider putting a
Sovereign Twilight Opal
in there. You lose 8 STR, crit is a wash from old helm and gain 12 Stam. Not a great tradeoff dps wise, but not too bad either. Or someone like me who is desperately in need of expertise, you can drop in
Guardian's Twilight Opal
.
But back to the main point, hardly a nerf at all.
评论来自
315671
I'm pretty sure you'd be better off with the perfect sovereign shadow crystal than the blue-quality ap/sta gem.
are u retarded?
评论来自
320385
Can anyone tell me what appromixatly the cost will be to get one of these one the AH or created?
Thanks in advance!
评论来自
263085
As a DK i will always take Crit Strike Rating over Agility. Sure agility gives me a small buff to my armour rating, but in all honesty thats negligable, as, with Frost Presence active, i am already at around 60% damage reduction. The additional Blue socket has more than made up for the loss of a small amount of Str and in fairness unless im tanking, i don't give a damn about stamina.
All in all the changes made are for the better, as this helm can now be useful for longer for all Plate wearing classes (at least until Naxx 25) and is relatively cheap to have crafted.
评论来自
131361
am I the only one who thinks that this would go GREAT with the bike mounts?
评论来自
343251
Ive just hit 80 with my retri pally. Is this still worth getting as you can now get
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=47220
from ToC quite easily.
Or is the Spiked Titansteel still worth the investment?
评论来自
327649
I cant really find a meta gem that I can fill the requirements for it. Anyone know which gem I can use?
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