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评论来自
Choochoo
On the whole, a rather disappointing two-hander in terms of what melee classes look for. Attack Power instead of Strength, and 3.4 speed is a bit fast.
It's obviously hands down the best two hander ingame, but it leaves much to be desired in terms of itemization.
评论来自
Zurm
According to the screenshot on MMO-Champion taken on live servers, it seems to have been quickened to 3.4, from the 3.5 shown above.
Link:
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/may/apolyonfinal.jpg
评论来自
72359
I'm not a very good MS-Warrior, but isn't 3.4 a bit too fast?
评论来自
132180
According to
http://www.maxdps.com/paladin/dps.php
, this is the best Blood Elf ret paladin weapon ingame.
评论来自
Cogeme
As for a hunter, this thing is rly not a upgrade from the polearm which drops from trash. You get more agility of it, enough haste on it and AP is also comparable to this sword. I would let the warriors have their two-hander for once :P...
评论来自
sasexw
I am the only one who belives this 3.4 is TOP with x3 on flurry?
评论来自
93556
Dropped for The Seven on June 1st, 2008 at 7:11 PM CET.
评论来自
149382
No, 3.4 is not too fast.
In terms of end game pve 2h Swords/Axes/Maces are basically going to be itemized with 3 class/specs in mind: Ret Paladins, MS warriors (Blood Frenzy bots), and Hunters.
Given the lack of agility and the much better and much more readily accessible Shivering Felspine, it's clear this isn't a hunter weapon.
With the haste on the weapon itself, this is essentially a 3.34 speed weapon with the highest top end in the game. From the standpoint of a Blood Frenzy warrior, 3/5 flurry brings the speed down to 2.83, which is good for the standard dps rotation of 4x slam, 2x ms, 1x ww.
Normal rotation would look like this (assuming the average .1 second lag time on slam & 100% flurry up time)
0.0 - White attack
0.6 - Slam (Swing reset)
1.6 - Mortal Strike
3.43 - White Attack
4.03 - Slam (Swing reset)
5.03 - Whirlwind
6.86 - White Attack
7.46 - Slam (Swing reset)
7.6 - Mortal Strike off cooldown
8.46 - Mortal Strike
10.29 - White Attack
10.89 - Slam (Swing reset)
11.89 - Open GCD
13.12 - White Attack
13.60 - Mortal Strike off cooldown
13.72 - Slam (Swing Reset)
14.72 -Mortal Strike...
Given this rotation and lag time it still leaves .33 seconds of open GCD after each special attack which is nice for extra lag/reaction time. Some of this could also be readily filled with the haste rating on the very nice Onslaught Boots and Belt, as well as some of the other Sunwell armor pieces (it would take ~250 haste rating on gear in order to fully compensate, a number that is impractical to reach for given other gearing requirements).
All in all, even considering the quicker speed to the weapon, it's still well within acceptable limits for a Blood Frenzy warrior. It's unfortunate that these circumstances brings the weapon under 3 seconds thus interfering with the cooldown on Windfury, but that is also assuming 100% flurry uptime which may not neccessarily be the case.
On the flip side, quicker auto attacks means more chances to proc sword spec. It's also worth mentioning that as gear upgrades are attained, and more haste rating becomes available, some arms warriors may switch over to a slamless dps rotation utilizing a DST.
评论来自
Frogger101
A ret paladin going from Shivering Felspine to Apolyon, the Soul-Render will gain;
35+dps ~regardless of faction. Both SoB and SoC will gain that much from swapping these weapons out according to spreadsheets. Making this hands down an amazing retribution paladin weapon.
Oddly enough the speed on this weapon screws around with warriors, esspeically ones using a cats edge. The upgrade from cats edge to Apolyon is very, very small for them. Right now due to this you can find many posts on the warcraft boards like this one;
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6441213731&sid=1&pageNo=1
These posts are suggesting for a slower speed, as some warriors can even see the S4 weapon out dpsing this baby for their spec and rotation.
Smart guilds with the way the sword is at the moment will hand this to their retribution paladin, then their warriors. It is just not enough of an upgrade for a warrior to give it over the ret paladin.
评论来自
cosmic
A great Two-hander. Any class that can use it could benefit from it.
评论来自
Gorger
US first obtained on June 7 by Metin <V A N Q U I S H> of US Cho'gall. A retribution paladin.
edit in 2022: Y'all know I'm going to get this again in TBC Classic.
评论来自
156306
Lol my heart goes out to those who voted down my comment. If you love the cartoony weapons WoW keeps churning out lately... my apologies.
评论来自
62247
Forgive me, but if the top end damage of the weapon is the same as the other swords (in fact it's higher, as far as I know its the highest top end damage weapon in the game) then the damage it deals on an attack like mortal strike will be the same, therefore the speed doesn't matter. It's a better weapon than say the Brutal Gladiator's sword because it would do similar damage in strikes, but you'd strike with white damage more often.
It would be better if it was slower, yes, but it is still a superior weapon damage-wise because you wouldn't lose any damage because of its speed. Think of it as a 3.6 speed weapon with a little more haste.
评论来自
50594
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Revelations, 9:7-11
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. 8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. 9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. 10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. 11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name
Apollyon
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评论来自
164759
If you socket this with 3 +10 Strength gems thats 30 strength equalling 60 attack power.
I'm not sure if strength adds to other stats too, but it would definatley be nice to see some more on this sword rather than a ghastly 100+ AP.
评论来自
Dithunder
Personaly this weapon makes a great pally weapon because of its high damage which makes crusaders strike a bit more powerful.
评论来自
157534
Blizzard needs to redesign the stats on this item as follows:
Apolyon, the Soul-Render
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Sword
416 - 625 Damage Speed 3.50
(148.7 damage per second)
+75 Stamina
Red Socket
Red Socket
Red Socket
Socket Bonus: +6 Stamina
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 42 (1.9% @ L70).
Equip: Your attacks ignore 224 of your opponent's armor.
Equip: Increases attack power by 126.
If you went through the hoops to down Muru and the last boss before L80, you deserve a weapon that is truly superior. The S4 sword should not share its graphic either.
评论来自
145397
Sword currently appears not to take a glow from enchants (i.e. no lightning effect from Mongoose). Whether this is intented or a bug, I don't know.
评论来自
58842
This is an excellent choice for fury warrior looking ahead to utilize it with the WotLK talent 'Titan's Grip'. The 3.4 speed and 2.03% haste will serve the talent well!
GL getting one!
评论来自
Croco
this exactly what I want to say: titan's grip. I am lvl 45 atm so not even my wet dreams can conceive a blade like this one, but Sul'thraze I can see around the corner... and it got me thinking. so I wanted to see what is the best 2handed sword in the game till now. this sword feels like it's made for titan's grip fury warrs! it will sure make whirlwind alot more fun! :))
评论来自
144835
You guys realize there's gonna be better 2H weapons at lv 80, right? So saying that "this goes well with Titan's Grip" is quite a redundant comment...
Also, with many balance fixes, or with the present mechanics... this one might/should be changed to Unique due to the fact that many top end dps 1Hers are Unique...
评论来自
73093
@Boulderdash
"It's unfortunate that these circumstances brings the weapon under 3 seconds thus interfering with the cooldown on Windfury, but that is also assuming 100% flurry uptime which may not neccessarily be the case."
Just thought I'd point out that the windfury totem effect doesn't have the 3 second internal cooldown; that is only for shaman's windfury weapon buff. There is no cooldown on the windfury totem effect.
评论来自
awebz
This along with the S4 weapons, this the only optainable item in game with greater than 600 top end!
评论来自
181858
This is a hunter weapon and a ret paladin weapon because they will both use it in there main raiding set warriors however you will never see one using a two hander before they get titans grip.
评论来自
124740
This has got to be an arms/sub priest weapon.
评论来自
armaroth
Seeing that it is not unique, I would love dual wielding those on my warrior once 3.0 arrives.
评论来自
Mokal
Sorry to say but this is clearly made for hunters.
评论来自
206829
i hate how i can never get this amazing sword i go raid SWP and we never do kiljaedan only twins and brut
评论来自
100270
This may be nice to dual wield come WOTLK. If the speed is a bit too fast, make it an offhand, and throw a Cataclysm's Edge MH. Or use two since they're not unique, and the damage output would still be great, assuming you have a lot of +hit (which everyone should anyway).
At the very least, Apolyon will be a great stat placeholder for TG warriors, and it's far from being a bad weapon.
评论来自
222582
hunter weapon imo look at that ap and stuff and with 3 20 ap gems in there this would be beastly
评论来自
141045
Saw an arms warrior with TG duel wielding these in AB. At first glance, I thought it was yet another warrior with warglaives. I was wrong. 2 swipes is all it took. My poor mage didn't have a chance :(
评论来自
crusader666
TG is fury.... But yet, dual wielding these with savagery on both and 3 +10 str sockets in each, all in all will give you: 252 ap + 2x 70 ap + 6x 10 str= 516 AP... 148.7 dps in both hands, 64 haste and 84 crit rating. I just say OMG
评论来自
synistrad
this sword got the name of a demon god in greek history the name by which he is called
in "Pilgrim's Progress".
评论来自
283939
rofl 2 of the swords= epic pwnage!
评论来自
28576
It's not unique so warriors with titans grip can equip two of them at the same time! O.O
You would look like a complete bad ass with two of these things equipped!
评论来自
Bloodysorc
The highest stamina weapon in the game for death knights who don't have access to deadly gladiator gear; if I had one, I'd totally use it in my sarth tanking set :-)
评论来自
311531
How much Dmg would a titans grip warrior with 2 of these with 3 16 strength gems in each and 85 ap enchants on each, have`?
评论来自
333767
I think that this sword is rather comparable ( only because of the sockets, that is ) to lvl 80 blues and I am definitely getting this on my Paladin. I guess just because dual-spec is coming soon, and I really love raiding Sunwell Plateau. I mean, this and Thori'dal are pretty much the only reasons to raid the place, aside from some trinkets.
And if nothing, it has a value akin to the good old T6 sets. They're simply gorgeous.
评论来自
supercrem9
I think this would be a great thing to use for DK 2-h tankin at 80. My DK is currently dw spec'd for easier d cap, but my offspec is gonna be a 2h spec with a lot of stam and he's a JC
so the sword has 75 stam normally,
three JC sockets, so that 123 stam there,
and the socket bonus of 9 stam
that makes 207 stam!
but... you may have a little bit of a threat problem due to its low at power and end dmg cause its a 70 epic, and equivilent to an 80 green in dmg.
评论来自
Puchatek
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/compare=30316;34247
- nothing more to say, i think..
评论来自
381701
this would be a great hunter item if you add x3 delicate dragons eyes
75 stamina
81 agility
amazing
评论来自
imawarrior
best weapon in tbc?
评论来自
436863
Call me crazy, but i think this might be able to create a very powerful weapon.
If you're a hunter, lets say and you almost never melee, but hit a lot of range, using this with 3x
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=40114
or if you're a Jewlcrafter
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=36766
could create a 246 Attack Power weapon or 330 with Jewlcrafter's gems. although the Jewlcrafters gems could easily fill another slot in armor or otherwise.
评论来自
isseidoki121
o.o i love the look... it needs to be level 80 so people can see it again :l
评论来自
Matt327
For the alliance ToC raiders, On the FC, You can see that the Paladin is wielding this sword.
Just a Fun fact I though i'd throw in there :]
评论来自
482962
It's the first weapon that I've seen which actually looks like the picture and it happens to be the best level 70 two handed sword.
评论来自
576845
Anyone know if any enchant shows on this weapon?
评论来自
504286
Go to the screenshots tab and look at screenshot number 4... Good job. :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hey all cans oem one sey me where can i get some display id's?
评论来自
Allakhazam
This sword drops of Kil'Jaeden in the Sunwell Plateau. Definitely the hardest boss so far (relative to progression, not being redundant!).
Incredible weapon, ridiculous dps and stats.
评论来自
Allakhazam
this drops from kil'jaedan in the sunwell and it the highest DPS weapon in the game. 2nd place goes to cataclysms edge.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This sword is sick enough as it is. With more than 3.40 and all Strength instead of AP, this would've been through the roof. It has about the same damage range as the season 4 twohanders (a tiny bit better) even though it has a "crappy" 3.40 speed (Cataclysm's Edge is 3.50 and has the same damage range as season 3 twohanders).
Compared to Brutal Gladiator's Greatsword (without Blessing of Kings, 3x 10 Strength gems):
+1 top end damage
+8.4 damage per second
+15 Stamina
+54 Attack Power
+32 Haste rating
-8 Crit rating
-33 Resilience
-98 ArP
-19 Hit rating
You get more in some departments, but miss out on important stuff like hit rating and resilience. You can still roll with the season 4 weapon and get away with it, but if Apolyon was.. let's say 3.60, it would've been the obvious choice for both PvE and PvP. Point is: the season 4 weapons will hopefully be a lot harder to get (than they were in season 3) and they should not be inferior to this sword in a PvP setting.
评论来自
Allakhazam
has anyone got this? would love a screen of it :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Its an awesome sword but to bad enchant graphic's don't show up on it. :\
http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot092208155439qj9.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
Who drops this?
评论来自
Allakhazam
the 3 red sockets on this sword make it absolutely ridiculous, drop 3 +10 str gems in it and with divine strength and BoK thats like an extra 70 AP for a ret pally. although the 3.4 attack speed isnt the best for ret pallys
评论来自
Thottbot
Best 2h wep for wars in game so far.
has the same look as season 4 2h sword.
评论来自
Thottbot
This drops from Kil'jaden in Sunwell.
评论来自
Thottbot
sweet ! you can vendor it for OVER 20G :D:D
评论来自
Thottbot
dropped for in Harmony (EU)
http://wow.buffed.de/uploads/pics/news_Schwert_IH.jpg
http://wow.buffed.de/uploads/pics/news_KJ_schwert.jpg
评论来自
Thottbot
MOHAWK WEAPON.
评论来自
Thottbot
OBVIOUSLY a discipline rogue weapon. LET'S GET OUR FACTS STRAIGHT PEOPLE!
评论来自
Thottbot
This is definately a Tauren drop. Notice the Stam? Taurens get 5% bonus to stam. Best fit for a Tauren rogue.
评论来自
Thottbot
Considering the facts of most of the above sentences i
really wish Thottbot had a spam filter.
评论来自
Thottbot
I think it's kinda !@#$%^ed when people say, "looks like s4". Wrong, s4... looks like this, yes there is a difference. When people say that this "looks like s4" then they're saying that this was made to look like s4. No, s4 was meant to look like this, you all fail.
评论来自
Thottbot
Lmao , the socket bonus , why even bother ?
评论来自
Thottbot
think about dual wielding this bish with the titan grip ability
评论来自
Thottbot
Don't touch our legendary and we don't touch this.
评论来自
Thottbot
this has high dps (@#$%^&ed noise) NYAAAA
评论来自
Thottbot
u killed moroes?
评论来自
Thottbot
3rd best hunter wep according to
http://www.maxdps.com/hunter/beastMaster.php
but if you is sunwell you probobly have shivering felspine or blade of the harbingers
评论来自
Thottbot
I wanna see a pic of a titans grip warrior duel wielding this.
Also, when recieviving this weapon, it is mandatory that you change your pants afterwards.
评论来自
Thottbot
I think my priest will get some good bonus heals from this
评论来自
Thottbot
WOW, i heard tauren rogue and tauren priests up there, FAIL, go back to D&D;, listen it's just simply stupid a hunter who is a range dps get priority over a melee weapon, that a arms warrior or retribution paladin could make much much more use of it,...imagine a rogue or warrior got the legendary bow over a hunter, huh? and heard that somebody saying something about taurens have 5%+ stamina who the &*!@ cares about stamina in raiding, if you would know dps includes, strength, attack power, crit chance, hit rating, expertise etc....not stamina
评论来自
Adelebea
This is a weapon for mages since they have low melee damage =/
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