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issachar
As of patch 2.0 this has the following stats :
Huhuran's Stinger
Binds when picked up
Ranged Bow
105 - 196 Damage Speed 2.70
(55.7 damage per second)
+18 Agility
Durability 90 / 90
Requires Level 60
评论来自
PorkFork
My guild just got its' first one shortly before patch, however the hunter who got it uses his Rhok now. But these weapons are close to each other now in terms of DPS.
评论来自
9590
A pretty good weapon for a hunter. The bow obtained from the hunter epic quest does a similar amount of dps, but this has +18 agility. Pick whichever best suits your needs. If no hunter needs this it could also be useful for a rogue or dps warrior with the +agility.
评论来自
172481
Please enjoy this dude raging on his guildies about the crap upgrade of this rifle. LOL!!!
http://huhuranisserious.ytmnd.com/
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评论来自
Thottbot
Drops off Princess Huhuran, one of the bosses in AQ 40.
Image of boss taken from guildcurse.free.fr:
http://guildcurse.free.fr/newswow/1.9/huhuran26rz.jpg
评论来自
Thottbot
One thing I noticed a lot of people forgot was that for hunters, 1agi=2ranged attack power. Roughly 52 agi is the equivalent of +1% crit. And for hunters we have our quivers and ammo pouches which increases ranged attack speed. So with all of this into account and using the formula above for ranged attack damage, both bows are really nice, but I feel it is up to the hunter rolling for it to decide what is better because they know best how they want their toon built.
I know all of you rogues love agi, but hunters do too. And ranged weapons, regardless of whether it be a bow, xbow, or gun, is a hunters best weapon. How would rogues feel if a hunter rolled on a dagger or sword with nice agi on it. I don't think you guys would like it at all and that is how we hunters feel with people saying certain ranged weapons are better for classes other than hunters.
But don't get me wrong here, if no hunter needs then by all means rogues warriors whoever roll for it, but hunters should get first dibs if they feel it will be an upgrade to their character.
评论来自
Thottbot
These threads have more enthusiasm than the scientific community. You with all your formulas and calculations. Me being a 60 rogue, I would say this would be a nice weapon but I would pass it to any hunters. It looks like shi# anyways. I think all the AQ stuff do. I rather have a gun anyways they are cooler. Me being a rogue, I only use ranged whenever people root me or freese me or start running away. (vanish is used up)
评论来自
Thottbot
1. Multishot - The attack power of this skill has been normalized. All ranged weapons will now use 2.8 as the standard multiplier. Weapons that are slower than 2.8 will see their damages reduced slightly, and weapons that are faster than 2.8 will see their damages increased slightly.
2. Aimed shot - (Same as above)
Discuss...
评论来自
Thottbot
When ranged weapons get normalized to 2.8 speed, Huhuran will be the #1 dps PvE weapon for Hunters. Edging out Xbow of Smiting by .5 dps.
This dps bonus will be slightly higher for trolls (like me), thanks to their bow specialization.
Xbow of Smiting will still be the PvP champion, thanks to its slow speed.
In most guilds, Hunters would have the opporunity to get this bow first. Then the rogues / warriors could fight over it.
评论来自
Thottbot
Why do rogues want this so much? Wouldn't Striker's mark, Heartstriker, or Bow of Taunt(NR!) Sinew be better. hell Stiker's mark has more AP and chance to hit!.
评论来自
Thottbot
1.10 Patch will normalize hunter's shots to 2.80. So u should see the use of all ranged weapons atm, thinking in near future. Here is the new table counts:
New DPS Old DPS Name
1 454 3 451 Huhuran's Stinger
2 454 1 473 Ashjre'thul X-bow of Smiting
3 451 6 445 Blessed Qiraji Musket
4 450 2 453 GM Xbow/Gun
5 447 5 447 Dragonbreath HC
6 445 4 448 Rhok'Delar
7 444 9 438 Heartstriker
8 436 13 430 Blastershot
9 436 7 445 Xbow of Imminent Doom
10 436 10 436 Gurubashi DD
This makes ONLY IN DPS Hururan's Stinger and Ashjre'thul the best ranged weapons of the game.
Now its time to take care of adicional stats:
What u preffer? 18AGI? or 36AP?
Personaly i prefer 18AGI, since i get:
+0,33% crit
+36 range-ATP (The exactly the same that Ashjre'thul only give)
+36 armor
+0,66% dodge
SO, if u wanna talk about ATM, yes Ashjre'thul is the best Ranged of the game. If u wanna talk about the future, 1.10 patch, that will be released in a few weeks... GET HUHURAN's STINGER!
Note: An in my case, i have Lightning Reflexes 5/5, that means 18 Agility +15%, that will improve much more all stats :))
评论来自
Thottbot
If a rogue/warrior wants a "Stats ranged weapon"
ZG/MC/BWL:
- Mandokir's Sting: +11 agility +8 stamina
- Blastershot Launcher: +1% crit +6 stamina
- Striker's Mark: +22 power +1% hit
- Xbow of ID: +5 strength, +7 agility, +5 stamina, +1% hit
- Dragonbreath: +14 agility,+7 stamina
BUT why o why would you want the best DPS ranged weapon?
评论来自
Thottbot
crits are NOT useless in pve
评论来自
Thottbot
This can be a good alternative to Rhoc.
Comparing the two bows ,adding +7 scope, dps and damage by Rap/agi on a survival hunter:
This:
94-170 +8 dam by agi (18*1 ,
=102-178 every 2,7 ,51,85 dps plus 0,4 crit
Rhok:
96-173 +3,5 by rap = 99,5-175,5 every 2,9 sec 47,41 dps plus 1%crit
Simply Max damage and dps higher,0,6% crit loss.
评论来自
Thottbot
We currently have 2 of theses weapons in our guild.
Both have gone to Hunters, because of weapon speed normalization on special attacks, this is the best PvE ranged weapon for damage a Hunter can get.
Would you want a hunter to get an ashkandi? or Dark Edge of Insanity? No.
So similarly you would not want a rogue/warrior to get this.
Hunter Loot.
评论来自
Thottbot
I don't know why ppl want all sorts of epic bows and stuff on their warr/rogue just for the stats over a hunters roll....
评论来自
Thottbot
ranged weapons=hunter priority
melee weapons=warrior/rogue priority
nobody here cares about your personal experience with a hunter ninja rolling on your dalrend sword so save it
on to huhurans stinger:
dps 46.3
damage 87-163
speed 2.7
+18 agility
rhok'delar
dps 44
damage 89-166
speed 2.9
+17 ranged AP
+1% critical strike
the untrained eye will say :
stinger has 2.3 more dps
the raw damage is 2-3 lower
it is faster then rhok so it must do worse damage with specials
+18 agility versus +17ap +1crit
RHOKDELAR IS A CLEAR WINNER
not
18 agility for a hunter means 36 ranged attack power, 0.33%chance to crit 0,7dodge
for a hunter with Lightning Reflexed(+15%agility) its 41 ranged attack power and 0,39%chance to crit 0,8 dodge
16 ranged attack power is 1 dps, so this bow doesn't just have 2.3 more dps, but it will have 3.4 dps
now what do you prefer, 0,61%crit or 19 RAP+0,7-0.8dodge?
it's the old discussion of the people with 30%crit who hit like a sissy and the people with 24% crit who hit hard but crit alot less
personally i would go with the extra RAP, hits will be harder
SPEED HAS BEEN NORMALISED FOR HUNTERS IN THE 1.10 PATCH, SLOW WEAPONS ARE NO LONGER GODLIKE, fast 2.0 speed weapons are &*!@, yes they are, but 2.7 is not bad at all
warriors and rogues you have so much alternatives
blastershot launcher 6stam+1%crit MC
striker's mark 1%hit+22AP MC
dragonbreath hand cannon 14 agi 7 stam BWL
heartstriker 24ap 9 stam BWL
gurubashi dwarf destroyer 30ap ZG
mandokir's sting 8stam 11agi ZG
toxin injector 28ap 10stam NAXXRAMUS
do you really have to take huhuran's stinger which is actually an upgrade(be it a small 1) instead any of the above? if you say yes ,you are just trying to annoy people on thottbot :)
评论来自
Thottbot
Maverik45 (the one who wrote "WARRIOR BOW" ,and many other stupid comments, earlier)...you're retarded...yes, warriors do use a bit of agility but for hunters agility is EVERYTHING. So this is a hunter bow along with almost all epic bows & guns and such. Thats it, there is no more discusion needed... PS: "Since when do Hunters use Bows" (which was also written by Maverik45)and "WARRIOR BOW" (in which he said, "Hunters should get last priority on all bows because the don't really need them") bring up a question : Since when have you played WoW?
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, this is obviously a hunter weapon, rogues and warriors should NOT have a right to this bow if a hunter wants it. Whenever we roll on ANYTHING with strength hunters and rogues have hissy fits about how hunters need agility, not strength, especially with melee weapons. If a hunter rolled on an epic +stamina and +strength melee in a group what do u think would happen to that hunter? Booted. Thats what Well guess what, this bow has got agility, agility, and agility, so back the hell off hunters and rogues. Yes, there are better epic bows, but that doesnt give u an excuse to roll for it. Warriors and rogues should be booted for rolling on this when a hunter wants it.
评论来自
Thottbot
This ain't a Hunter Wep. Its obviously a Priest Weapon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hunter want bow hunter get bow.
Rouge want dagger rouge get dagger.
THE END
评论来自
Allakhazam
if you have this drop and you dont have rhok...go do mc some more and come back
评论来自
Allakhazam
with the new 1.10 normalization i wont even keep rhok in the bank after i get this bow ( if i get it). :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
One of the worst hunter bows in the game, Rhok is better.
评论来自
Allakhazam
theres a rogue on my server with one of these rofl, funniest thing iv ever seen,then again theres a hunter with ashkandi so whatever, funny though
评论来自
Allakhazam
Nice bow for leveling in TBC, wonder how it will fair with steady shot.
评论来自
Allakhazam
giev plx
评论来自
Allakhazam
High end instances you want high attack power, not burst damage crit.
36 ranged attack power and a ~.33% crit chance (or 41 ranged attack power and ~.40% crit chance if you have lightning reflexes) on Huhuran.
17 attack power, 1% chance to crit on Rhok.
With respect to long-term hunter DPS, (i.e. PVE raid instances) 6 agility = 1% chance to crit = 17 attack power, assuming a base 1500 attack power with a 22.22% chance to crit. (my current stats) Trust me, I've done the math.
So this is in fact around 50% better than the Rhok from a stat point of view, thereby there is little need for blizzard to change the damage range from the Rhok.
Oh and my fury warrior.. he wants striker's mark, stats on that are much better for him than this.
Edited, Wed Apr 12 17:00:47 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Why oh why does it have to be so ugly compared to Ashjre'thul =*(
评论来自
Allakhazam
someone link a pic asap pls.
评论来自
Allakhazam
With the Multishot/Aimed Shot normalization coming in 1.10, this is a good hunter weapon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
rogue item
评论来自
Allakhazam
people are saying that hunters should give this weapon to rogues best ranged for hunters in the game and rhok is what like 6th ok if rogues get this hunters get Perdition's Blade deal? yes predition might not be good for hunters at all but that is pretty much what the deal is abuot this you want our best wep so y cant we have your's?
评论来自
Allakhazam
this bow is awesome for rogues :o
PS: thorg u nub !
评论来自
Allakhazam
Does this drop in AQ? Never seen it before.
Edited, Tue Jan 31 14:34:53 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
if i had the rhok, i'd pass this,
if i didn't have the rhok and a rogue got this over me, the rogue and the guild needs to die (considering i dont have the xbow of smiting)
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol u cant steal from a rogue they steal from you...
PICKPOCKETS THIS BOW AND HS!
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://huhuranisserious.ytmnd.com/
评论来自
Allakhazam
hunters strength is in ranged weapons, best dps bow in game and has agi which i s also hunters main attribute, warriors shouldnt be allowed to roll on this unless not one hunter wants it, i know i want it
评论来自
Allakhazam
i want that one or Ashjre, which either i will never get ... damn, they are both pretty and deadly xD
评论来自
Allakhazam
just one of the best bows for hunters who don't have rokh'delar
评论来自
Allakhazam
if anyone has a pic of the best DPS bow, please tell me and post it in this thread. Also it has to be non-Gm item and on the US server.
评论来自
Allakhazam
yes, aq, GIVE ME
评论来自
Allakhazam
I want that dam bow
评论来自
Allakhazam
for once...a real "Hunter" weapon.
and yes...this is a Hunter first weapon >_>
rogues...go away.
(you too fury/MScrit warriors, mine first)
:D
评论来自
Allakhazam
You silly hunters make me smile =). Rogue this and rogue that, but in reality you probably have your epic quest bow if you are running AQ, so you can let us rogues have it so we hit you guys slightly harder in pvp :D. And with that let the flames begin!
评论来自
Allakhazam
ya after patch 1.1 this bow will be good, even better than rhok, so huntas deserve it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
stupid discussion you can even buy a lookalike bow statsvise if your so keen for agility as a rouge..
评论来自
Allakhazam
sorry but i can't belive people have said Rogue Itejm!- as people say bout us hunters when do u go into Ranged attack rogues, Go get a greenie from the Bank KKthxs
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this bow last week, and can already tell a increase in overall dps on raids and pvp...5-31-15 spec
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just recieved this bow on my last AQ40 run..it's a pure beast. Only two hunters on the raid that went so luckily I had the chance to get it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I promise a rouge will write (in near future) here: "A definitly rouge weapon!"
评论来自
Allakhazam
...I want one...and a couple of those Qiraji Bindings of Command she drops too...
Go away rogues. Go get a thunderfury :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
are you kidding me... this is the second best ranged weapon in the game. take a look at this i found from wowwiki.com--->
http://www.groovylick.com/wow/28nerf2.gif
so all i gotta say is hunters get priority over anyone.
评论来自
Allakhazam
wow the woman that is useing it in the picture looks good!
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is obviously aimed (not literaly :P) at survival spec hunters.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Compare to Huhuran's Stinger..dps is higher..speed matters but after the speed normalisation in the patch it wont effect you that much..about the same i reckon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
One thing I noticed a lot of people forgot was that for hunters, 1agi=2ranged attack power. Roughly 52 agi is the equivalent of +1% crit. And for hunters we have our quivers and ammo pouches which increases ranged attack speed. So with all of this into account and using the formula above for ranged attack damage, both bows are really nice, but I feel it is up to the hunter rolling for it to decide what is better because they know best how they want their toon built.
I know all of you rogues love agi, but hunters do too. And ranged weapons, regardless of whether it be a bow, xbow, or gun, is a hunters best weapon. How would rogues feel if a hunter rolled on a dagger or sword with nice agi on it. I don't think you guys would like it at all and that is how we hunters feel with people saying certain ranged weapons are better for classes other than hunters.
But don't get me wrong here, if no hunter needs then by all means rogues warriors whoever roll for it, but hunters should get first dibs if they feel it will be an upgrade to their character.
评论来自
Allakhazam
1. As someone said above Rhok'delar is better than this crap.
2. Any rogue who wants this is a noob. Striker's Mark from MC pwns this thing statwise. Comeon now +1% chance to hit with +22 Atk Power.
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
dropped last night for the second time in a row for us, i got it :D
yes, im a hunter
Edited, Tue Jun 20 08:46:27 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
i hope all you rogues understand this is for hunters
评论来自
Allakhazam
all i can saw is....Pwnt.
Just Pwnt
评论来自
Allakhazam
*Steals bow from a rouge* MY BOW!
This is a nice hunter's bow and i'll roll against and/or kill ANY rouges who dares to roll against me.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This i simply the perfect weapon in endgame instances for hunters. The dps and speed is great and the stats is awesome for mass-agility builds.
You should aim for weapons with high DPS as possible and close to the 2.80 speed. This is the best weapon by "far" atm. Try using quick weapons with the "
Badge of the swarmgaurd"
, and when you reach down to the 20 sec, pop your, "
Zandalarian Hero Medallion
, Works on multiple targets with MS, it's quite a sight for the eyes and you climb the dpsmeter like a madman.
评论来自
Allakhazam
this bow is sick nasty awesome for hunters..comes with Agility and nice dps dont put the hunters down lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
Recently discovered on the taiwanese forums, class changes that state that there may be a ranged normalization for multi and aimed shot. Comparison with old DPS vs new DPS w/ normalization @ 2.8 speed. So yes, this will be the best ranged weapon, DPS wise, after the patch (and if the normalization occurs)
The First column is the rank post-normalization. Second column is the post-norm dps. Third column is pre-norm rank, and the forth is the pre-norm dps.
New DPS Old DPS Name
1 454 3 451 Huhuran's Stinger
2 454 1 473 Ashjre'thul X-bow of Smiting
3 451 6 445 Blessed Qiraji Musket
4 450 2 453 GM Xbow/Gun
5 447 5 447 Dragonbreath HC
6 445 4 448 Rhok'Delar
7 444 9 438 Heartstriker
8 436 13 430 Blastershot
9 436 7 445 Xbow of Imminent Doom
10 436 10 436 Gurubashi DD
11 435 8 443 Polished Ironwood Xbow
12 431 16 424 Mandokir's Sting
13 427 14 427 Silithid Husked Launcher
14 427 15 427 Hoodoo Hunting Bow
15 426 24 416 Striker's Mark
16 424 17 424 Crystal Slugthrower
17 420 23 417 Deep Strike Bow
18 420 18 423 DHC
19 420 28 410 CMR
20 419 22 419 ABB
21 418 27 411 Xorothian Firestick
22 418 19 421 Stoneshatter
23 416 11 432 Bloodseeker
24 415 26 412 Dark Iron Rifle
25 414 20 420 FAR
26 414 12 430 CSX
27 411 29 393 Bow of Taut Sinew
28 408 37 376 GM Bow
29 408 21 420 Blackcrow
30 407 25 416 Heartseeking Xbow
31 402 31 389 Outrider's/Outrunner's
32 397 32 384 Willey's Howitzer
33 397 33 384 Satyr's Bow
34 395 35 376 Riphook
35 392 34 378 Screeching Bow
36 390 36 376 Shell Launcher Shotgun
37 376 38 352 Eaglehorn
38 376 39 343 Hurricane
39 373 30 393 Steelarrow Xbow
40 366 40 330 Megashot Rifle
Edited, Mon Feb 27 04:31:10 2006
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Allakhazam
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