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评论来自 Karuko

As of patch 2.0.10, this is able to be used in Defensive Stance as well, making it very good for multi-mob tanking as well as against bosses. Furthermore, this appears to stack with the Icy Chill enchant for weapons.

评论来自 skywyze

Does this ability benefit from Attack Power? Can it crit?

评论来自 Dubbill

No and yes, respectively.

评论来自 Gimlyly

How much is "additional threat"?
Double?

评论来自 Dubbill

The threat is 175% of damage done.

评论来自 2441

Yes it can crit but the crit chance is not your melee crit chance but your spell crit chance lol, so it crits very rarely.

评论来自 23639

This spell alllows warriors to be very effective in tanking multi-elite pulls without CC. Combining Thunderclap and tab-Sundering/Revenge, you can effectively hold up to 4 mobs with enough threat to counter healer aggro.

However unlike the paladin Consecrate + Holy Shield threat generation, without a substantial threat-lead, you probably won't be able stay ahead of mage/warlock AoE, aka. the fast-fun-and-famous Shattered Halls Prot Pally runs, where every elite pack is AoEd down instead of CC-ed and single targeted.

评论来自 doublediamond410

Generally more useful for tanking than solo'ing or PvP'ing.

Creates strong threat for ~~up to 4~~ all nearby targets, as well as dealing some damage and reducing your own damage taken.

评论来自 78102

From what I can tell, you do not need to have anything targeted to use thunder clap. My question is does thunder clap hit your current target and an additional three (total of four) or does it always just hit the closet four targets to you?

评论来自 Archangel

TC will hit;

If you have no target available or in range, it will hit the four closest mobs.

评论来自 138937

This skill is categorized as a spell even though its damage is mitigated by armor as its considered physical, lame.

评论来自 159372

Anyone know what threat this wave blasts for at 70 with:
+100% dmg 3/3 improved clap
-10% dmg def stance

+15% threat 3/3 Defiance
+30% threat Defensive Stance bonus

123 base dmg (rank 7)
+42 spell damage (superior wizard oil).

评论来自 Lemonwizard

Thunderclap's great and all, but any warrior who goes for intellect or spell crit or puts wizard oil on his weapon is just being dumb.

The primary function of this move is the attack speed debuff and keeping non CCed mobs off healers. If your DPS are aoeing or going after different targets, tell them to learn the mechanics of the classes they're running with and focus fire. It can't stand up to mage/locks AOEing because it shouldn't need to.

评论来自 47151

Warriors actually receive no spell crit from Intelligence no matter how much they have.

edit: I don't think TC gets any increased damage from spell damage either, as it causes physical damage. And to the best of my knowledge physical damage abilities are never modified by any type of spell damage that you can get.

The threat caused by TC thus is dependent on the amount of damage done by it (as mentioned above, TC causes threat equal to 175% of the damage done to the target), modified by whatever threat modifiers you have (stance, talents, enchants, etc.). It's probably (threat caused)=(damage done)x(175%)x(threat modifiers) but don't quote me on that.

评论来自 roguedubb

For a level 19 Warrior Twink with Improved Thunder Clap (Rank 3), this out performs Heroic Strike and even Improved Heroic Strike (Rank 3). And if you hit multiple targets with Thunder Clap you're laughing.

Thunder Clap

17 Rage
46 Damage
2.70 Damage per Rage
20% attack speed slow

Heroic Strike

12 Rage
32 Damage
2.66 Damage per Rage

评论来自 157011

in the WOTLK expansion there will be this talent,so Thunder Clap can crits.

Incite (Protection)

Increases the critical strike chance of your Heroic Strike, Thunder Clap and Cleave abilities by 5%/10%/15%.
(3 Ranks)

评论来自 71961

Does anybody happen to know what the attack power coefficient for this ability is? Even a 15% coefficient would make this attack quite potent when coupled with the Improved Thunderclap talent.

评论来自 73142

It is currently base damage plus 20% of your atk pwr. Incite makes it crit even more and Improved Thunderclap increases damage plus reduces the rage it costs. People wanted an aoe Thunderclap affecting all targets, nevermind that when it's actually quality threat to 4 targets. I'll take that any day, the days of healers pulling off my abysmal Thunderclap is over.

评论来自 Kebabas

Stupid question: does this affect spellcasting speed? >.> or only ranged and melee?

评论来自 Ecwfrk

This ability causes additonal threat.

Does it add musical tones to threat or something?

评论来自 Bloodsword

This is now not limited by targets, in the aim of making all tanks more aoe viable.

评论来自 218558

Thunder claps number of targets is going to be removed according to http://www.worldofraids.com/news/308.html. With this we will now be amazing at AoE and holding aggro on many targets will be a breeze. Thank you Blizz.

评论来自 Hyle

Just announced Blizzard intends to remove the target cap from Thunderclap and Swipe so now these skills can be used on more than 4 mobs.

评论来自 Hyle

Just announced Blizzard intends to remove the target cap from Thunderclap and Swipe so now these skills can be used on more than 4 mobs.

评论来自 jagarock

Thunder Clap Rank 2

20 Rage Instant 6 sec cooldown

Requires Battle Stance, Defensive Stance
Blasts nearby enemies increasing the time between their attacks by 10% for 14 sec and doing 34 damage to them. Damage increased by attack power. This ability causes additional threat.

IMPROVED will be:

Thunder Clap Rank 2

16 Rage Instant 6 sec cooldown

Requires Battle Stance, Defensive Stance
Blasts nearby enemies increasing the time between their attacks by 10% for 14 sec and doing 68 damage to them. Damage increased by attack power. This ability causes additional threat.

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it scales with AP, heroic strike doesnt scale with AP.
so this will be much more damage for the rage yes.

评论来自 hypehuman

As of right now (since all of this is subject to change), you get get 30% more damage for 60% less rage in a 25% increased radius (which comes to a 56.25% increase in area). These benefits are conferred by Improved Thunder Clap, Focused Rage, Glyph of Resonating Power, and Glyph of Thunder Clap.

评论来自 tobarstep

The coefficient is 12% of your AP and has been for several builds now. I'm not sure that the 20% ever even made it in.

评论来自 Dralas

Finally thunderclap is getting a good buff! Since strength is going to be very plentiful in prot. tanking gear and the new armored to the teeth ability, prot warriors AP will get a nice increase for those damage dealing abilities where its is based on our AP also. So overall a prot warrior may be hitting mobs for about 500 ( A complete guess) with thunderclap.

评论来自 sinaraine

as of wotlk its modified by attack power... my thunder clap does about 500 now..

评论来自 64664

It doesn't just hit 4 units as it was before. In fact it hits the area around you and everyone in it.
"Blasts nearby enemies."
Excellent for tanking multiple annoying mobs like in Shadow Labs and Arcatraz. Sheep? Who needs a sheep if you can tank them all.

评论来自 138937

I dont know if no one noticed or just didnt mention it, but this has a 6 seconds cool down now, up from 4.

评论来自 159390

With 3.02, this can now hit unlimited targets.

评论来自 138937

Does anyone know the exact range and AP conversion on this ability? Its easy to judge range in battle, but an exact number would be useful. And dmg caused varies by armor, so much harder to make a good guess, I think its 10% or less.

评论来自 gamemaster

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr who cares about your habitat little beast i am gonna kill i am the storm grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr LOL

评论来自 frankster

How does the "extra threat" on thunderclap work out?

is it 175% of the damage, which is then modified by the defensive stance (207%)? i.e. roughly 3.5* the damage done?

edit: I found the answer on tankspot: (http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f200/39775-wow-3-0-threat-values.html) the threat is 185% of damage done, modified by defensive stance (207%) which works out as 383% of damage done overall. Pretty beefy!

评论来自 261390

Demo shout only costs 10 rage, so use that spell if you only need to lower target damage.

评论来自 79805

Yeah, back in 'ole TBC when you were type cast into only being able to go to certain raids because they needed you to take hateful strikes or to AoE tank. The good old days.

One thing I have noticed recently, and I'm not sure if its just me, but my thunderclap no longer applies a debuff image, so i wonder if that -10% debuff still applies itself. Time to go for a test I suppose... *hunts for victims*

评论来自 Matzai

Thunder Clap benefits 1 dmg for every (5 STR =) 10 AP. at least on my lvl 23 Warrior. That makes it:
Thunder Clap: Damage + 0.1*AP = total damage

评论来自 Kiliana

Thunder Clap is a waste of mana.

评论来自 Fearghail

The resource is rage. Are you just trolling? Thunder clap is a versatile talent that has uses for Arms, Fury and Protection warriors in pve and pvp.

评论来自 389922

Just because nobody mentioned it:
Thunderclap is blocked by silence effects. Remember about that when you encounter mobs with that ability. This can really cause some nasty problems. Especially when you realize that silence turn shouts off to.

评论来自 stereopump

This spell will cause much less threat as you approach level 38, when the next rank is granted. If you're wondering why at level 37 you can't keep aggro when at 35 you were fine, that's the cause.

评论来自 sillybuns

: This ability now counts as a ranged attack, granting it double damage on critical strikes instead of 150% and ranged miss chance, and still cannot be dodged or parried.

Hurray, finally, a positive change for our beloved thunder-based aoe. Meaning it should miss less on bosses, and more damage on crits, should be a reasonable boost to our threat capabilities.

3.3.3 patch notes.

评论来自 silkfire

Even if this ability belongs to the Physical school, you still cannot cast it while Silenced. It should actually be a Physical + Nature spell (the so called Naturestrike damage school, hex value 0x9)

The Physical portion is when the Warrior slams his weapon into the ground.
The Nature portion is the percussion wave that radiates from the impact of the weapon.

At least enable the physical portion during a silence, like an instant Overpower (extra attack).

评论来自 Kiliana

Thunder Clap is a waste of mana.

评论来自 Orthis

Let's see how different ability can get...

Improved Thunder Clap
Glyph of Resonating Power
Glyph of Thunder Clap
~~Focused Rage~~

And you get:

------------------------Level 85
912 Rage
Requires Battle stance, Defensive Stance

Blasts enemies within 10 yards increasing the
time between their attacks by 20% for 10 sec
and doing 217 damage to them. Damage
increased by attack power.

评论来自 693537

So, this talent gives you the ability to refresh the cooldown of rend on your current target and add a Thunder Clap debuff, right?
Imagine duelling a rogue or druid... You could maintain the rend on them all the time (if you had managed to hit them once with it... regarding the great avoidance of theirs)

评论来自 620551

ur the best

评论来自 DrakeWurrum

Does this also increase casting time?

评论来自 332158

when I look at this spell in game it just says:
Causes damage to all enemies in the area, and slows their attack speed.
does anyone know how I can make it show me the area range and the damage dealt ? I have looked through the interface options but I cant find it anywhere...

评论来自 822140

I never understood why a thunderCLAP is a stomp...

评论来自 332158

does anyone know what other spells share this effect ?

评论来自 Katalo

Thunder Clap can proc Crusader, however I believe it will only proc Crusader on your mainhanded weapon.

评论来自 bromalferdon

Possibly, if one is looking for such, a reference to a type of firework produced by Gandalf in preparation for Bilbo and Frodo's birthday celebration. It is also a town in Stephen King's The Dark Tower series; however, considering he has cited The Lord of the Rings as a source of inspiration for these books, it may also be traced back to Gandalf's explosives.

I think it's more likely than I had initially imagined; considering how many references to Tolkien's work exist in the game.

评论来自 drgnslyr

Sorry but.. the new patch says within 0 yards.. does that mean you have to be standing on your opponent?

评论来自 WyvernVJ

New buffs and debuffs map (5.0b)

Buffs

Stats
Effect: +5% Strength, Agility, and Intellect
Brought by: Any 德鲁伊 (), any monk (), and any 圣骑士 ().

Stamina
Effect: +10% Stamina
Brought by: Any 牧师 (真言术：韧), any 术士 (), and any 战士 ().

Attack Power
Effect: +10% melee and ranged attack power
Example: Battle Shout
Brought by: Any 死亡骑士 (寒冬号角), any 猎人 (), and any 战士 (战斗怒吼).

Spell Power
Effect: +10% spell power
Brought by: Any 法师 (奥术智慧), any 萨满祭司 (), and any 术士 ().

Haste
Effect: +10% melee and ranged haste
Brought by: Frost and Unholy 死亡骑士s, any 潜行者 (), and Enhancement 萨满祭司s.

Spell Haste
Effect: +5% spell haste
Brought by: Balance 德鲁伊s (), Shadow 牧师 (), and Elemental 萨满祭司s.

Critical Strike
Effect: +5% ranged, melee, and spell critical chance
Brought by: Guardian and Feral 德鲁伊s (), any 猎人 (), and any 法师.

Mastery
Effect: +5 mastery
Brought by: Windwalker monks (), any 圣骑士 (), and any 萨满祭司 ().

Debuffs

Weakened Armor
Effect: -12% armor
Brought by: Any 德鲁伊 (), any 潜行者 (玄秘掌), and any 战士 ().

Physical Vulnerability
Effect: +4% physical damage taken
Brought by: Frost and Unholy 死亡骑士s ( and ), Retribution 圣骑士s (), and Arms and Fury 战士s ().

Magic Vulnerability
Effect: +8% spell damage taken
Brought by: Any 潜行者 (), and any 术士 (混乱烙印).

Weakened Blows
Effect: -10% physical damage done.
Brought by: Blood 死亡骑士s (), Feral and Guardian 德鲁伊s (痛击 and 痛击), Brewmaster monks, Protection or Retribution 圣骑士s (正义之锤), and any 战士 (雷霆一击) (basically any tank).

Slow Casting
Effect: -30% casting speed
Brought by: Any 死亡骑士 (死疽打击), any 潜行者 (迟钝药膏), and any 术士 ().

Mortal Wounds
Effect: -25% healing received
Brought by: Arms or Fury 战士s (致死打击 and 狂暴挥砍), any 潜行者 (致伤药膏), and any 猎人 ().

Will update as new info comes.

评论来自 SgtFrog

Fun Fact: A Pandaren Warrior (male Pandaren, anyway. I don't know about female Pandaren) using Thunder Clap doesn't stomp the ground...with his foot. He does a butt-stomp.

评论来自 xXzCodProxXz

Now, this ability is rather useless and is a waste of rage unless in protection spec
No longer does it slow enemy movement speed by 33%, and decreases their attack speed.

we see a rather generic debuff, these "weakened blows"

like 10% will do anything. I reckon Blizzard got tired of classes being unique and decided to homogenize buffs and debuffs. Smart move, easier gameplay=more subscriptions, more $$ , and make classes retard-proof

评论来自 Oexi

Does ANYONE remember if this used to have a lower level requirement? I am trying to figure out when I first started playing WoW, but all I remember from it was when on my level 10 or so warrior (first toon) one day I logged in and EVERYTHING WAS DIFFERENT. And if I remember correctly I had recently learned this skill (yes it was back when you actually talked to the class trainer to learn skills) but when I logged in that one day it was gone from my action bar. And being the casual-player noob that I was I didn't have a clue of what was going on. Now this was probably 2009 or 2010 so I'm thinking perhaps cata release?
Thanks in advance.

评论来自 Bogdanov89

At some point during MoPandaria (or even Cataclysm), Thunder Clap was changed to do Physical damage instead of Nature damage (it always scaled with attack power) - meaning that heavily armored foes will now take a lot less damage from TC due to their physical damage reduction.

As lvl50 Prot warrior, my Thunder Clap hits dummies/critters for the exact tooltip damage (~550) while on instance mobs of my level it does about 280 damage, due to their armor reducing TC's physical damage.

评论来自 heartlessnobody

Thunder Clap
Instant 6 sec cooldown
Requires Warrior (Protection)
Requires level 14
Blasts all enemies within 8 yards for (50% of Attack power) damage

Thunderstruck
rooting them for 1 sec and reducing their movement speed by 20% for 10 sec

and reduces their movement speed by 20% for 10 sec.

Generates 5 Rage.

tank only now would arms want this back?

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雷霆一击

雷霆一击

瞬发	6秒冷却

冲击8码范围内的所有敌人，造成(42% of Attack power)点物理伤害。超过5名目标时将造成较低的伤害。

产生5点怒气。

魔法增益

法术细节

持续时间

10秒

类型

物理

机制

n/a

驱散类型

n/a

GCD目录

普通

成本

无

范围

0码 (自身)

施法时间

瞬发

冷却

6秒

GCD

1.5秒

效果#1

School Damage （物理） ({term('apmod_colon')}0.42)
半径：8码

效果#2

Apply Aura：Decrease Run Speed %
价值：-20%
机制: 被诱捕
半径：8码

效果#3

Dummy
价值：30
服务器端脚本

效果#4

Give Power （怒气）
价值：5

效果#5

Dummy
价值：5
服务器端脚本

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