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评论来自
153274
Seems more sensible to be able to sit down, as an alchemist, with a bunch of herbs and experiment with them rather than be working with a specific selection of herbs and suddenly discover how to make something completely different.
A very good addition, in my opinion.
评论来自
208776
seems like a great idea to me, I've been doing an xmute a day forever now and haven't discovered crap with current method
评论来自
yawgmoth
This looks fantastic. I spent months trying to discover all of the flasks in TBC, each day farming herbs for hours just so I could go make 100+ elixirs. With this we'll be able to get the recipes at about the same pace as a rabid farmer, but with less painful grinding.
评论来自
smcn
Just used this for the first time tonight, I learned how to make
Elixir of Accuracy
, and as a nice surprise also created a
Flask of the Frost Wyrm
!
评论来自
196558
Has anyone discovered any of the BC discovered recipes using this? Say, will I have a chance to discover Flask of Relentless Assault and Blinding Light (my last 2 discoveries!), or will it be only new Northrend recipes?
(I already like this system much, much better no matter what the answer is.)
评论来自
Firebug
I wonder if Elixir mastery will allow multiple bonus flasks/elixirs from this.
And if it does... is it multiplicative? Meaning instead of 3, it procs elixir mastery of x2, and gives you 6?
评论来自
Devrana
I learned
Elixir of Armor Piercing
and made a
Flask of the Frost Wyrm.
评论来自
zajani
Has anyone discovered a transmute from doing this research? It says that the transmutes can be discovered from doing other transmutes but how do you learn the first one?
评论来自
Eliminati
The first transmute that leads to all others is titanium. Do it, and research early and as often as cooldown allows.
评论来自
Larrylaffer
Discovered
Crazy Alchemist's Potion
and made 2x
Elixir of Accuracy
.
评论来自
255163
I like where this new system has taken Alchemy. Will miss the "suprise" while mixing 50-100 elixers at a time though...
Has anyone done there weekly research and NOT learned a new recipe? No Alchemists I know have missed yet. Just curious if that is really a possibility.
The transmutes also rely on discoveries, starting with one while doing Titanium and moving on from there with Eternals (the new Primals) in case anyone was wondering. Has anyone managed to discovery the Eternal Might transmute yet?
评论来自
198659
Discovered Elixir of Lightning Speed.
Oddly, created 2 TBC Flasks of Relentless Assault
评论来自
135042
Discovered Potion of Wild Magic
Made Elixir of Mighty Defense x 2
评论来自
259258
Week 1
Discovered :
Elixir of Expertise
Made: 2x
Spellpower Elixir
Week 2
Discovered:
Elixir of Deadly Strikes
Made: x2
Flask of Stoneblood
评论来自
Beltiras
Here's
the list of suspected discoveries. You find it by choosing alchemy and then choosing source as none (since WoWhead hasn't populated it yet, needs data). I'd also set the lowest skill to 350 but for some reason the list comes up empty if you do.
评论来自
135042
Discovered Elixir of Armor Piercing
Created Flask of the Frost Wrym
Discovered Potion of Speed
Created Elixir of Lightning Speed
评论来自
48154
The tooltip doesn't say anything about a chance, so it is certain that you will learn a new recipe everytime you experiment.
评论来自
267801
Try 1
Discovered:
Elixir of Expertise
Created:
Spellpower Elixir
x2
Try 2
Discovered:
Elixir of Mighty Mageblood
Created:
Elixir of Mighty Thoughts
x2
Try 4
Discovered:
Powerful Rejuvenation Potion
Created:
Flask of Relentless Assault
x2
Will update as I go along
评论来自
orgonutil
wtf, i used the skill and... nothing to discover, just received a flask ¬¬
评论来自
KurtFury
I did it and made 1 Flask of the Frost Wyrm! NO discovery!
评论来自
38978
My first one 3 weeks ago didnt result in any discovery, just 2 flasks, after that 2 in a row with new recipes.
Chamus
评论来自
95299
Just tried this the 1st time.
I'm L71, Alchemy 415. Elixer Master
Skill increased to 416
Learned to make Elixer of Mighty Mageblood
Created 2 Spellpower Elixer
评论来自
239198
I was so eager to get this I spent about 100g working up my alchemy, only to use it and get a flask - no discovery.
Perhaps next Sunday will yield profitable results.
评论来自
mwsmith15
So, I am sure most have thought of this, but I have yet to see anything about it... What happens when you have learned all of the elixir/pot/flask recipes? Does this skill become unusable or does it simply create a random elixir etc. with no new skill learned?
评论来自
Mairin
Week 1
Discovered:
Elixir of Accuracy
Created: 1x
Flask of the Frost Wyrm
Week 2
Discovered:
Elixir of Lightning Speed
Created: 1x
Flask of Relentless Assault
Week 3
Discovered:
Potion of Speed
Created: 2x
Elixir of Expertise
Week 4
Discovered:
Elixir of Mighty Defense
Created: 3x
Elixir of Mighty Defense
Week 5
Discovered:
Elixir of Protection
Created: 2x
Elixir of Accuracy
Week 6
Discovered:
Potion of Wild Magic
Created: 2x
Elixir of Protection
Week 7
Discovered:
Elixir of Expertise
Created: 2x
Flask of the Frost Wyrm
评论来自
297163
Yes, it is possible to discover transmutes using this research.
I discovered how to transmute Eternal Life to Fire on my first use
and how to make the Crazy Alchemist Potion on my second which also yielded 2 Elixirs of Lightning Speed.
评论来自
229204
does anyone know if we will keep the discoveries if we drop alchemy and pick it back up later?
评论来自
xstaindx
3.0.8
Reduced the cooldown on Northrend Alchemy Research from 7 days to 3 days.
评论来自
SannaSK
Unfortunately, you can indeed learn vendor recipes from NAR. The first recipe I learned was Indestructible Potion, something I could easily have learned from the vendor I was standing right next to. My thought was, "Surely they won't have us learn recipes we could buy, so I'll do my NAR right now and wait to gain more Kirin Tor rep so the vendor recipes will be cheaper."
Wrooooooooong.
Buy up all your vendor recipes as quick as you can before you do NAR. My CD is up in 6 hours, I'll let you know what I get this time. At least in 3.0.8, NAR's CD is like 3 days or something, instead of /seven/.
评论来自
88618
What I found interesting about it is you can create elixers you don't know how to make, for instance I never learned any of the lvl 70 elixers as I leveled this guy straight through to 80, but I created 2x Flask of Relentless Assault
评论来自
Astrya
so far my discoveries have been:
elixir of expertise
elixir of deadly strikes
elixir of armor piercing
elixir of lightning speed
potion of speed
elixir of mighty mageblood
powerful rejuvenation potion
potion of wild magic
crazy alchemist's potion
elixir of water walking
elixir of accuracy
elixir of mighty defense
elixir of protection
评论来自
268533
Can anyone confirm if when you do research, you are limited to discovering something within the range of your alchemy skills?
IE, if you are not within the new Flask range (so you are around like around 400-405 with Alchemy Skill), can you Discover something like a Flask of the Frostwyrm (something in the 430+ range)?
I just used
Northrend Alchemy Research
for the first time at 400 skill level.
I discovered
Elixir of Lightning Speed
, which Wowhead currently shows
as a 415 skill required (or there just hasn't been enough data collected yet).
评论来自
Llotus
They canged the mats for this to 10x goldclover, 10x Adder's Tongue, 4x Talandra's Rose, and 4x Enchanted Vials.
评论来自
178874
With the reduced cost, this might actually be worth doing even after you discovered all current recipes since you are likely to get a flask out of it using herbs you may not have much use for elsewhere.
评论来自
218119
As of patch 3.0.8 they supposedly increased the proc rate for learning a Northrend level Transmutation (eternals)
评论来自
TweFoju
can we learn the same recipe that we already have? for example, we already have Elixir of the Mighty Mageblood, then we use this skill. is there a possible way we can learn the recipe twice again?
评论来自
317549
Last time I did not discover anything, just recieved 2x
Elixir of lightning speed
. So it seems that getting flasks are not guaranteed after you have discovered everything. I'm also still missing one of the TBC flasks, so this does seem to only work on the new WOTLK recipes as the name suggests.
评论来自
Danaan
It seems that the priority in doing the research lies on elixirs first. After I had discovered every elixir recipe, I am only getting new potion recipes.
The last one I discovered was
Potion of Wild Magic
Additionally, learning transmutation recipes is very easy. It took me a very small amount of time to learn all transmutations.
评论来自
shaftoe
From all appearances, there are 13 recipes that can be discovered through the Northrend Alchemy Research.
This list
shows the set of recipes prior to 3.0.8.
Elixir of Water Walking
was added in 3.0.8 as a discoverable recipe.
评论来自
kaytie
There is currently a known bug where it doesn't check your known recipes, so if you discover one you already know, it'll just fizzle.
评论来自
158647
I burned my cd today without discovering anything. Made one flask of frost worm and that was it. very disappointing. it is not as though i've discovered anywhere near all of the available recipes. I am the only alchemist i know to whom this has happened.
评论来自
249308
I have been doing my Northrend Alchemy Research every CD since WOTLK dropped.
This past week is the first time I've done a Research with no new recipe. I got 2x Flask of Relentless Assault (yay BC flasks, oh joy).
I have discovered all the Northrend discovery elixirs and potions, but none of the transmutes. I'm not sure if I should continue to waste the rather large amount of herbs needed for Northrend Alchemy Research to see if my results change, or just figure it's out of things to give me and work on doing transmutes to learn the transmute discoveries.
评论来自
Masken
Since 3.08 i havnt gotten any discoverys from NAR, i know for a fact that its not becauce i have learned all i can. so this is about 4-5 times without a discovery, anyone else noticed a diffrence?
评论来自
sillusus
I would just know if the northrend recherch can make us learn some outland' potion/elixir ?
评论来自
mistadabolina
I just recieved a discovery twice. It's the armor piercing thing. I'm only on 424 skill in my alchemy maybe 'full' now. So be patient with this. I'll skill some more before I try this again.
I'm a casual that don't play that much. For you hardcore players I guess this wont be a problem.
评论来自
Sauze
Sorry guys.
I see in other people their Statistic tab that they got "inscriptions learned 370"
I only have 365.
I've learned everything from the trainer inscriptior. He couldn't give me anything new.
I've done all my minor and major discovery inscription to the point it only gives me random scrolls. (even continued doing it 3 days after learning everything)
(I also have the Typhoon glyph, Blast wave Glyph, Focus Glyph that were new).
With this macro I'm able to count the amount of Minor and Major glyphs. Currently, there should be 63 minors and 213 major glyphs.
Use this macro when you have your inscription list open:
Minor
/run local g,c,l=GameTooltip,0 for i=1,GetNumTradeSkills() do g:SetOwner(this,"ANCHOR_NONE") l=GetTradeSkillItemLink(i) if l then g:SetHyperlink(l) if GameTooltipTextLeft2:GetText()=="Minor Glyph" then c=c+1 end g:Hide() end end print(c.." minor glyphs")
Major
/run local g,c,l=GameTooltip,0 for i=1,GetNumTradeSkills() do g:SetOwner(this,"ANCHOR_NONE") l=GetTradeSkillItemLink(i) if l then g:SetHyperlink(l) if GameTooltipTextLeft2:GetText()=="Major Glyph" then c=c+1 end g:Hide() end end print(c.." major glyphs")
I've talked to a GM about my issue and this is what he told me:
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff7/sauce_007/Discoveries.jpg
I can confirm that you are not always guarenteed to learn a new one everytime you do it.
This goes as well for the alchemist version.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff7/sauce_007/Discoveriesalch.jpg
评论来自
166755
I haven't learned a new one in my last five tries so I guess I'm through with it. I got 3 - Elixir of Mighty Strength this last time. I've lost a lot in the past 5 times. Blizz ought to let you know when you won't get anymore recipies by disabling this spell.
评论来自
359100
do you also discover transmutions from this?
评论来自
Niteniten58
I have twice gotten Mixture procs from this one (
Pure Mojo
and
Stoneblood
). So it seems they haven't changed it to make the new flasks instead of the old ones.
评论来自
225887
Full list of discovered Items and how to discover them
评论来自
Cross88
Due to the recent changes to this ability, even if you've discovered all the recipes, it's a good way to make flasks if you don't have any
frost lotus
.
评论来自
Miyukichan
Just did my NAR today before I realized I had learned all of the recipes there were discover. However, I not only didn't get a new recipe, but I also received NO flasks/potions/elixirs. Total waste of mats.
评论来自
290880
It seems that it's possible to not get any item in return from completing this.
I tried it today, and I got absolutely nothing from it.
Which was a first for me and i've been doing this when the cd is up since about febuary.
评论来自
275963
Ok, well just used this for the 10-15th try (stopped counting) and got nothing...
That's right...absolutely nothing. No Discovery, and no product either...but still had the CD go off....
Strange, I'm thinking I discovered all the recipes already. Still doesn;'t explain the fact I got no end product for a 3 day CD
评论来自
93256
Absolutely ridiculous. I did my research and out of all those mats only made Elixir of Might Agility. Blizz needs to do something about Alchemy. Alchemy is totally broken atm.
评论来自
bloodtalon
I recorded my alchemy research results each time I hit the cooldown. I learned 13 recipes and the 14th time it only gave me the results of the research but with no new recipe. Of course your results may vary and the order is random, I believe certain recipes can only be learned at a particular alchemy level.
#1
Researched:
Created:
x2
#2
Researched:
Created:
x2
#3
Researched:
Created:
x3
#4
Researched:
Created:
x2
#5
Researched:
Created:
x3
#6
Researched:
Created:
x3
#7
Researched:
Created:
x3
#8
Researched:
Created:
x2
#9
Researched:
Created:
x3
#10
Researched:
Created:
x2
#11
Researched:
Created:
x2
#12
Researche:
Created:
x3
#13
Researched:
Created:
x2
#14
Created:
x2
评论来自
487451
Yes. I have done the research three days in a row now and not only haven't learned anything, I've only gotten two flasks each time. :(
评论来自
XinR
I loved using this the first dozen times, however it appears I've maxed out in what I can learn? Unfortunately, altho someone previously said you could learn things vendors sell, you can't learn things that vendors sell that require a certain rep to obtain. bummer. My last 5 times doing this I have not discovered anything new, so it appears you can max out. THis was before I was at 450 Alch skill as well still useful because now I find if I do it, I usually end up with a flask that would normally require Frost Lotus. Useful for alot of people, but everytime I farm TIger Lily in The Basin, I usually end up with 1-2 FL at the very least and I don't farm more than 1/2 hr.
评论来自
166755
Just tried this for the first time in many months. I had stopped getting Discoveries a long time ago but thought, surely. something had been added in all this time.
NOT! What a waste of mats. I got two Wrath Elixir and that is all. Blizz shouldn't allow this waste on an item without some way of knowing if it is still working or not. They need to add some new Discoveries now and then cause this really sucks.
评论来自
r1llz0r
I've made this 2 times without getting any recepies. Is this a bug or have I discovered all recepies already?
评论来自
309394
While I agree with many others that this system sure beats relying on Discovery... I remain convinced that any system other than training combined with buying recipes / patterns is nothing more than a pain in the butt.
评论来自
johanponken
Why does this take herbs
from the full stacks
?
I had specifically a stack+10 AT and stack+4 TR, and ended up with 10+10 and 16+4 respectively...
评论来自
649528
i haven't learned hardly any recipes myself and got 2 flasks of stoneblood, no discovery, complete waste of mats. Flask is even a waste because as a priest, i don't use those
评论来自
163020
It appears worthless nowadays, apart from water walking elixir. Even in MoP I expect it to drop in price due to the water walking mounts.
评论来自
KyBelle01
Hi All,
I was still doing this every 3 days and stocking up on the regents when I found out today that I had learned everything on the list. It would be nice if they would do one for the new expansions that have come out since LK with some new research but maybe only with a 1 day CD. Oh and also it would have been nice to know I had learned all I could before I bought more of the regents for the research. Think they could add something that tells you when you can't learn anymore. Anyway, good luck to you all that are still working on this research.
评论来自
839525
This still having a 3 day cd, 2 expansions later, is ridiculous. Should be no more than 24 hours at the most!
评论来自
sMarkis
Hello Guys
I still do not understand
How do I learn to do the:
Transmute: Primordial Ruby
Transmute: Imperial Amethyst
Transmute: Sun's Radiance
Transmute: Vermilion Onyx
Transmute: River's Heart
Transmute: Wild Jade
what I need ?
how it should be done?
thanks
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诺森德炼金研究
诺森德炼金研究
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施法材料:
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)
金苜蓿叶片
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100
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(
10
)
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(
100
)
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4
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