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评论来自
IgnisVenom
what in tarnation
评论来自
Maarsynn
The updated version makes it ever more confusing:
Fodder to the Flame (Necrolord)
Instant / 3 min cooldown
Requires Demon Hunter
Commission a duel to the death against a Condemned Demon from the Theater of Pain. Defeating the demon and consuming its Empowered Soul Fragment causes you to enter Demon Form for X sec. (Currently 15 for Havoc and 10 for Vengeance)
In theory, a 3 min CD that requires you to actually kill a mob to grant you Meta for for few seconds seems really, really underwhelming. It also states "duel", so it suggests you need to kill him yourself without your party or raid's help? Description suggests it's supposed to be powerful, therefore I assume it will not be oneshotted. So, we have to summon an add during boss fight, kill it, wasting boss DPS uptime to get a few seconds on meta?
I think we either really lack context on this (i.e., seeing how it actually works), or there's something absolutely wrong with this ability...
评论来自
Chippedice
Seems relatively underwhelming. Might be useful if it actually procs
破碎灵魂
since its a demon.
评论来自
wowrior
Wait, you actually have to SPAWN a mob to beat him for the buff? How the hell does that work?
评论来自
PlaZma0
Assuming the condemned demon is actually a demon, can someone enslaving it as a warlock?
评论来自
Fekabazsi
Can anyone else see the summoned demon? Or just the demon hunter who summoned it?
评论来自
Ristaina
Demon has about 40% of your max hp, glaive damages ~60% of its health (always dies to two), and the demon's attack doesn't seem to change much if at all regardless of equipped item level.
Soul lasts 30 seconds on the ground before disappearing.
Demon corpse remains for 2 minutes (for fleshcraft use).
When summoned, the demon attacks for 25 seconds before going away. It does have a leash range and will return to where it was summoned.
For pvp purposes, you are considered in combat while the demon is chasing you (potential to avoid getting sapped by rogues). The demon may continue to attack while you are polymorphed to break it (testing required).
评论来自
Trollfat
The demon summoned by this ability is a random one of the following:
-Felguard
-Wrathguard
-Doomguard
-Infernal
-Felhound
-Shivarra
-Ur'zul
However, these demons can NOT be macro targeted. Even typing in /target Infernal in chat will not work. So, macroing this ability together with Throw Glaive is out of the picture.
评论来自
doveskie
It doesn't actually say this in the description but killing your summoned demon still spawns an
恶魔之魂
that you suck up for a 20% damage increase buff. (No more damage reduction tho.)
As of 9.0.5 other players and enemies can target your demon and kill it so unless you can target and get to it first with your throw glaive you don't get that sweet aoe damage. Because of this, kiting the demon to where you want it to be for the aoe doesn't really seem to work reliably in situations other than world questing. I even made a weakaura to tell me when my demon is out so I can try to get to it first but it's so squishy and dies so fast.
评论来自
nman
I'm only just now leveling my first character in shadowlands after 9.0.5 hit.
I'm about half-way through Maldraxxus now and so far I got ZERO proccs of this ability. Looking great so far.
Edit: finished Maldraxxus and spent some time at the dummy before finally deciding on a convenant (spoiler: didn't pick Maldraxxus...) and still got no proccs at all. Something must have been wrong.
评论来自
sitecow09
At release, this was by far the weakest of the DH's Covenant abilities, giving only a 5 second buff as a reward for killing a demon that had waaay too much health, making the other abilities far more practical. Not to mention, if an enemy drops you to critical health, this ability actually has a chance to kill you if you didn't kill the demon fast enough, giving it the dubious honor of Worst Covenant Ability of All since it actually works to kill YOU more than your enemy.
Patch 9.0.5 redesigned it so that the demon INSTANTLY dies to one use of Throw Glaive and the buff lasts 20 seconds instead of 5. The demon also explodes, healing you for 30% of your HP and dealing AOE damage to enemies around you.
It's still generally considered weaker than the other Covenant abilities, since you have to waste time casting both the ability and Throw Glaive when the others are only 1 button press and the demon can still hurt you, but it's not "hang your head in shame" awful anymore.
评论来自
guatafu
I'm confused. Is it a 2 min cd or a random proc?
评论来自
Ledriele
the reworked ability makes Details/Warcraflogs less useful now. In single target "Throw Glave" is 3rd with 10% of the total damage while "Fodder to the Flame" is at the bottom with 3%.
Throw Glaive - 10.24% - 202.5k (only 3% of this damage was actually to the boss)
Fodder to the Flame - 2.99% - 59.1k
评论来自
Firelocked
I wasn't sure about this at first. But just a bit ago I decided I really like it. I had a player come up to steal my quest items while I was battling mobs, the Wrathguard appeared and ran toward us, and the dude split
评论来自
Newsly
theres a macro for this, it involves using the actual target Id's with /targetenemy macro and it works around warlock pets and non-condemned demon entities as they are all differant (indivudals)
/targetenemy 169421
/targetenemy 169425
/targetenemy 168932
/targetenemy 169426
/targetenemy 169429
/targetenemy 169428
/targetenemy 169430
/cast throw glaive
/targetlasttarget
the macro reads through all 7 possible demons and then it uses ur ability
then targets ur last target, hope this helps people. you can also change "/cast throw glaive", to "/setfocus"
itll set any demon thats spawned as ur focus and then you can make a seperate "/cast Throw glaive" for if you want to save ur demon for later use, just be mindful of the 25 second duration that they exists
评论来自
aceaxe11
Morbid curiosity.... Does anyone even like this "Ability"?
Maxed out 3 of 4 covenants... left Necro for last... can't say that there is any appeal for me as a Veng DH.
I can see the shield being useful for M+ and raids.... cept I don't care for M+ or raids other than farming old content for mounts I still won't see for another 10 years (Curse you Arthas!)
Prior to flying, I'm sure the constructs had some utility for move speeds, but far as I can tell, nothing bonus that I havn't already earned through Night Fay.
Anyways, blah blah, rant rant. Some might giggle about Ardenweld, and thats cool, just as I'm scratching my head about the Necrolords... to each their own :)
评论来自
fhait
Having the ICD reset if the demon spawns at the end of a fight when there's nothing else to kill would go a long way towards easing people's frustration with this. That, and/or replacing the DPS buff with a movement speed buff in those circumstances.
评论来自
Akinaru
After looking up and doing some testing, I was able to come up with a macro I feel comfortable using. Or two, actually. I'll describe them below.
First it's a macro to get the target of one of the possible NPCs that may spawn, and focus it:
#showtooltip Fodder to the Flame
/cleartarget
/targetexact Felguard
/targetexact Felhound
/targetexact Doomguard
/targetexact Infernal
/targetexact Shivarra
/targetexact Wrathguard
/targetexact Ur'zul
/focus
Then a macro to replace
投掷利刃
in the actionbar, to hit the focus target or act normally if there's ain't one.
#showtooltip
/cast Throw Glaive
The way I use it is to drag the target macro to a slot with a quick keybind, such as Shift+Mouse button 5. Then use it the moment I see the green link effect, indicating
燃焰饲魂
has spawned an NPC. After positioning it, I can use
投掷利刃
macro to blow it and heal, not having to worry about clicking on the right enemy.
Thanks to users who helped me understand a bit more how macros work.
Since I can't seem to use hyperlinks, I'll just drop links below with the comments I found helpful. Big thanks to them!
Newsly -
燃焰饲魂
#comments:id=5265613
Trollfat -
燃焰饲魂
#comments:id=3277184
Polydeukis -
燃焰饲魂
#comments:id=5265613:reply=1537610
Elvenbane -
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/cast-spell-npc-else-cast-target/447552/2
Ehiztari -
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/multi-target-macros/47191/4
Nok -
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/focus-target-macro-problem/836261/6
Smokewagon -
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/focus-target-macro-problem/836261/7
]
And certainly others in the articles and in Wowpedia. Hope it may be of help to others as well!
评论来自
Lorgh
Hate. That is all. I have nothing useful to add to this conversation. I just simply despise this ability, like, utterly and completely. I literally regret going necro with my DH because of this stupid ability.
评论来自
Fairyteller
Be aware that as of Dragonflight pre-patch, the Havoc branch has a talent by the same name (
燃焰饲魂
). If you have used the Havoc talent build from Icy Veins, it will be enabled there.
评论来自
Utena
Cleaned up macro, working fine as of 18 Nov 2022. Let's you use Throw Glaive regularly, but will target and cast when one of the condemned demons are up.
#showtooltip
/targetexact 169421;169425;168932;169426;169429;169428;169430
/cast []Throw Glaive
评论来自
zultharg
It seems to me that lot of ppl looks at this ability as on AoE damage spell. The thing is, demons spawns Demon Soul Fragments on death -
15s lasting 20% dmg buff
. That's the major added value. Yeah, it spawns on the end of the encounter too often, but 15s is still enough to pull another pack and still use at least a few seconds of that buff.
评论来自
DCO4LIFE
When I use Throw Glaive, more often than not the demon does not die, and I have to use it again to kill it. Anyone else have this problem?
链接
WeakAuras 导出
燃焰饲魂
燃焰饲魂
[Covenant Ability]
瞬发
2分钟 冷却
需要 恶魔猎手
需要等级 48
你的伤害技能有几率从伤逝剧场召唤一只恶魔,持续25 sec。投掷利刃会对此恶魔造成致命伤害,恶魔死时会爆炸,对附近的敌人造成(192.5% of Attack power)点
暗影
伤害,并使你回复20%的最大生命值。此爆炸的目标超过5个时造成的伤害降低。
魔法增益
燃焰饲魂
与来自伤逝剧场的一头恶魔交战中……
持续25秒
法术细节
持续时间
25秒
类型
暗影
机制
n/a
驱散类型
n/a
GCD目录
普通
成本
无
范围
0码
(自身)
施法时间
瞬发
冷却
2分钟
GCD
1.5秒
效果 #1
Apply Aura:Dummy
PVP 倍率:1
服务器端脚本
效果 #2
Trigger Spell
燃焰饲魂
标记
形变时无法使用
[Not In Spellbook Until Learned]
指南
Havoc Demon Hunter Best Covenant
Vengeance Demon Hunter Best Covenant
Necrolord Havoc DH
Necrolord Vengeance DH
Necrolord Covenant Overview
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