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评论来自
frmorrison
Fortunately, you are wrong.
Elixir mastery does proc on Flasks.
评论来自
17169
What A CROCK master elixirs is
Who cares if it procs on flasks, nothing in the world could compare to the extra gold you could get from proc on master transmute especially with primal might.
What a goddamn joke you can't unlearn this and master something else, I'm so pissed off
评论来自
7371
As for Elixir Mastery, it has proc'd for me several times. The first time it did, I created a stack of 5 Adept's Elixirs for the price of one. Other than that it's been 2 or 3 but often enough to make it worthwhile.
评论来自
17169
What in heck does it take to proc more than an extra one created?
I've made arc elixirs, onslaught and major agility so far and I haven't got a bigger proc than x2.
In the screenshot above it shows him making x5 x4 etc.
评论来自
Phegan
What is the exact proc rate?
评论来自
15528
Here's what I gathered from my experiences an an Elixir Master. (Note that I don't make a significant amount of elixirs- just enough to carry me through instances.)
I've made elixirs of all levels (gray, green, yellow, and orange) after choosing elixir mastery and have seen the following results:
Gray elixirs - No extra proc
Green elixirs - Very small chance to proc
Yellow elixirs - Chance to proc
Orange elixirs - Very good chance to proc
These results may or may not be accurate, but from past experience, out of 100+ gray elixirs not a single one procced an extra.
Furthermore, elixir mastery procs will work with flasks.
评论来自
27736
So I've read comments saying that both the elixir mastery and the potion mastery procs on both type of potions, but then what is the difference?
评论来自
32819
With the upcoming patch 2.1, Blizzard is putting less emphasis on the use of elixirs / flasks. (You can only have 1 "offensive" and one "defensive" elixir on at a time, potency of flasks has been reduced substantially, etc)
So, to me at least, Elixir Mastery isn't looking to enticing any more. Seeing as potions will always play an important part in raids, Potion Mastery looks like the safest way to go at the moment, at least until Blizz takes a look at Transmutation Mastery.
评论来自
grintogg
I just dropped alchemy (transmute mastery) to relevel to Elixir master.
When i was a high enough alchemy level the guy in Shattarah allowed me to learn the mastery without doing the quest, or handing him the items.
Obviously handing in 4 primal mights originally was sufficient to allow me access to all masteries (As long as i was prepaired to regrind alchemy - which wasnt too painful)
评论来自
53890
After the patch i did 3 random Potions, discovered a flask and then did 1 and got 5x for it. It's nice but now i have abandoned it for Transmute mastery for a little money.
评论来自
noherczeg
Im currently potion master, but it suxx hard, and i want to roll elixir. Do i need to do the quest for the mastery, or just pay 150g to the correct person?
评论来自
Atheos
If you change your spec will you be able to keep your discoveries or will they be gone as well?
评论来自
93067
correct. being an elixir master does not mean that you cannot learn new potions and/or transmutes, it just means that it won't proc extras fot those items.
评论来自
7963
I actually dropped skinning for alchemy figuring it would be a great get rich quick scheme, since I love playing the Auction House. After looking over statistics, there is a general estimate here that there is about a 20% proc rate, and on these procs 1-4 extra elixirs or flasks are produced.
Now, I was lucky enough to discover the flask of relentless assault, and figured my wealth would be assured (on average, I would be getting an extra 2 flasks for every 5 I made, which on my realm means 80g a day if I only made 5 each day, with average luck).
HOWEVER, I am quite confident that there is a greatly reduced proc rate on Flasks compared to elixirs. Prior to discovering the Flask, I made Elixirs of Major Agility, and found that the estimated proc rates were about correct. However, in the last 50+ Flasks of Relentless Assault I have made, I have found there is about a 10% proc rate, and only 1-2 extra are made each time. Never seen any more than this. In other words, I make about 20g a day off this, with average luck, if I'm paying close attention to the market and buying when prices are low.
/sigh. Don't think it's a guaranteed money maker, is I suppose what I'm trying to say.
评论来自
73633
It CAN proc on elixirs of ANY level. I'm assuming this because it proced x5 on
Elixir of Minor Fortitude
so if it can proc on such low items than it can probably proc on anything.
Screenshot
评论来自
97665
Had mats for 80 onslaught elixir and made 113, not a bad proc rate if you ask me when onslaught elixir are gray for me
评论来自
172532
I think the proc rate was reduced in 2.4.3. After making 65 elixirs, I got an extra 5 elixirs, coming out to less than a 10% proc rate. I dont know if it was bad luck, or the patch, but I wont make any more till there is a confirmation on it.
评论来自
185310
would it proc with Northrend elixers & flasks?
评论来自
57826
Will they remove the requirement to do the quest to gain this skill in WotLK?
评论来自
Sgat8516
Yes, it does proc for Northrend recipes.
On an odd side note though, I went leveling alchemy today, and somehow ended up with a flask, that i don't have a recipe with....
Random freebie byproduct proc maybe?
Got the HP flask, and noticed it, when i was level 419, and its a 435 recipe..... lol
评论来自
sstan
I have made 150 flasks and I haven't gotten ANY proc thus far. (I ofc did that quest, to make flasks/elixirs proc.)
The Flask Skill is shown yellow.
Any idea if it could be bugged or what ?
评论来自
292710
I don't think there is a reduced proc rate on Flasks, though I dont have the numbers with me. However, I do remember in Burning Crusade getting x5 procs on Flask of Fortification and plenty of x2 and x3 procs on others. Its pretty much random, as it states.
On another note, when making Pygmy Oils in the WOTLK expansion (
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40195
) I was getting lots of procs. I ended up with 30 Pygmy Oil from a stack of 20 Pygmy Suckerfish, making my proc rate a whopping 50%. Does this count as an elixir, or does everyone get these procs? The procs were only x2 , never higher. Can anyone else confirm this?
评论来自
Doomgrip
To learn an alchemy mastery you will have to do a quest.
Lilyssia Nightbreeze
is the Alliance quest giver and
Yelmak
is the Horde quest giver. All quests have been upgraded to Cataclysm ingredients.
Elixir Master
Potion Master
Transmutation Master
If you want to switch mastery you can talk to the quest giver to unlearn your current mastery. You will then have to perform another one of the three quests listed above to learn a new mastery.
评论来自
181573
I think the mastery have been nerfed in LK, cause recently I've only been getting procs like every 9 or 10 flasks. And I'm yet to get more then one extra.
评论来自
146899
As of endgame WOTLK i've only managed to get extra procs of x2 on the elixirs that i make. Bad luck or did they change it?
评论来自
134320
Using a sample size of 104 Elixirs/Flasks it seems likely that you can only get procs of x2 now. I made 99
Elixir of Mighty Agility
followed by 5
Flask of the Frost Wyrm
. I ended with a total of 118 Mighty Agilities and 8 Flask of the Frost Wyrm but not once on any of them did I get a proc higher than x2. So either I have
horrible
luck or you can only get a maximum of 1 extra now. Also I am a 450 elixir master.
评论来自
Calamity
I don't know, but I think they lowered the proc rate on flasks & potions big time.
评论来自
62976
Is it just me, or will flask changes in 3.1 severly nerf elixir master? Since every non-procc craft will produce 2x flask that are each exactly half the old one, that = no more 4x proccs, and say getting 2 extra flasks (4x produced in 1 craft = 4 hrs duration) will equal old 1x procc (2x produced in 1 craft = 4 hrs duration). Maximum procc will produce 5x from 1 craft, that's 3 extra new flasks, and that will equal 1,5 old flasks.
That's pretty harsh...
评论来自
96745
I just confirmed that a proc x10 from Northrend flasks (stoneblood/endless rage/pure mojo/frost wyrm) is possible.
so far it happened once but i have seen the x4 and x6 quite often, and a rare x8 proc
评论来自
177481
yes that procc 10x is so nice :) just got my frost wyrm flask x10 was kinda awesome supprise :)
评论来自
408364
It seems that they have nerfed the proc rate of Elixir Mastery. On average I would normally get 4-5 procs making 20 or so elixirs. Now I'm lucky to get just one! Anyone else experiencing this?
评论来自
Tust
I just did my first batch of flasks in 3.2 and out of 8 combines i got 2 x10 procs. and a x4 proc. Either i got really really really lucky or they've increased proc chances somehow.
评论来自
Dalac
I was just thinking would it be worth it for me a Transmutation master to go over to Elixir mastery since i think there is a lot more money to be made from elixir mastery than transmutation mastery although it does give of quite well i have gotten up to 5 epic gems, but i think it was nerfed since i have only gotten it like 3 times and that was all before patch 3.3, but the question is would it pay more off for me to go over to Elixir mastery?
评论来自
188301
i read all the comments about how often does this proc, seems the bottom line is really based on luck, but its usually enough to make you want to be elixer spec.
评论来自
Quest
Co-GM of my guild just got a 8x flask proc.
Anyone else getting this? Will post a screenshot when she uploads.
Ive done 100s of flasks literally and have not gotten better than 4x. Did they fix this or highten the proc rate?
评论来自
541260
I can confirm the nerf - from 22 lotuses in a row, none procced even a 4x....
a few hours later - got another 32 lotuses, made 16 SP and 16 AP flasks, results is:
Frost Wyrm - 1x8, 3x4, 12x2
Endless Rage - 5x4, 11x2
so it's not THAT bad after all... it seems
评论来自
277387
I just got elixir mastery today and decided to use the frost lotus I had in stock for some flasks. The first one i made procced 8.. The third one procced 10 more. I did not notice what happend untill i checked my inventory and found 32 flasks instead of 16 :P
评论来自
imimre
After making 200 x
Flask of the Frost Wyrm
s:
# of Times 2 Flasks Were Made: 83
# of Times 4 Flasks Were Made: 15
# of Times 6 Flasks Were Made: 1
# of Times 8 Flasks Were Made: 0
# of Times 10 Flasks Were Made: 1
Total Number of Flasks: 242
Total Number of Extra Flasks: 42
Percent of Extras: 21%
评论来自
Seref
Anyone know if this can proc on Cauldrons?
评论来自
colinstu
Is it me or does this NEVER have a chance to make more than one of anything now? I still have this mastery but I haven't gotten any extra flasks from this since cata.
评论来自
bowenbdf
Just made 15 tank flasks and not a single proc nor have I had any last week, think it's time to change to transmute mastery.
评论来自
Ocaya
Just made 6 Flask of Steelskin (300 Stamina cata flask). This is what I got:
x5
x1
x2
x1
x1
x1
So it seems to be fixed :)
评论来自
205193
Boy it sure doesn't proc very often.. I made 14 flasks of the draconic mind tonight.. only one of them procced a x2. :(
评论来自
garrygoth
Creating 50 flasks today yielded me 4 extra.
Maybe I'm just very unlucky or it has been brought down closer to 10%.
评论来自
wolfefin
I'm probably just as unlucky then, cause I've made two stacks of Draconic Mind over the last two weeks and not a single proc either. I thought maybe it got switched and flasks fell under Potions Master or something, but from seeing this, I'm guessing they just nerfed the daylights out of the proc rate. It used to be pretty great.
评论来自
313854
Can anybody confirm if Elixir mastery also includes flasks as of pach 4.0.3?
I have elixir mastery and created dozens of flasks, but it don't seem as i get any procs, starting to wonder if they removed flask procs from this.
Hope somebody can confirm / de-confirm my statement.
评论来自
668987
I just started playing my alchemist again but wasn't the rate of return on flasks in Wrath 2-4-6-8-10 for elixir masters? Did they change it to 1-2-3-4-5 for Cata?
评论来自
806183
I am wondering if anyone has had a Vial of the Sands proc into another? I expect the result to be a resounding NO, but would still be interested in the knowledge.
评论来自
865072
I've been making flasks daily for a few weeks now, I occasionally will get a x2 proc, and that's the only proc I seem to see, but today I saw my very first x5 proc. It seems that the proc rate has been substantially nerfed.
评论来自
911161
To unlearn and learn a new Potion , transmution and Elixir master
Lilyssia Nightbreeze <Alchemy Trainer> In SW coords 55.66,85.98 . Has the three quest you need Potion , transmution and Elixir master. Alot better than going to Outlands . Thanks to a Gm that help me get the quest to show up after opening a ticket
Bring a variety to an alchemy trainer in any capital city.
Hope this help save alot of time for everyone . Enjoy!
评论来自
344870
As of 4.3.0,
Transmutation Master
,
Potion Master
and
Elixir Master
now have different requirements to learn/change your specialization.
Instead of paying 150 gold to change, it is now changed to 450 gold.
Bring the requested materials to an alchemy trainer in any capital city.
Transmutation Master
Requirement:
*
Truegold
x 4
Potion Master
Requirement:
*
Mythical Healing Potion
x 6
*
Mythical Mana Potion
x 6
*
Potion of Treasure Finding
x 2
Elixir Master
Requirement:
*
Flask of the Draconic Mind
x 2
*
Flask of the Winds
x 2
*
Flask of Steelskin
x 2
*
Flask of Titanic Strength
x 2
评论来自
100337
The process for changing alchemy specs has changed!
You no longer have to visit any of the npcs in BC, it can all be done in your home city.
- First, to unlearn your current spec there is a button on your Professions tab in your spellbook that says "Unlearn this specialization."
- Second, you return to your alchemy trainer and accept the appropriate quest for the new spec. They are:
Elixir Master
,
Potion Master
, and
Transmutation Master
. Complete the quest and you earn the new specialization.
Thankfully they made this change, but the only thing worse than the old method of flying to BC locations is flying there for no reason. Please vote this up so people can find the info easily.
评论来自
500331
I have 2 max leveled transmutation masters, a potion master and an elixir master. I have not had any extra procs on either my potion master creating potions or my elixir master crafting elixirs or flasks. I actually came here to see if there were some patch notes I had missed a while back and apparently, I'm just very unlucky.
My transmute masters often proc extras with crafting at most half of what my elixir/potion masters craft. Hopefully one day my bad luck will end and I'll get a string of 5x procs on 2 stacks in a row. Doubtful, but I can dream.
评论来自
687014
I finally leveled my alchemist to max about a month ago, and have been producing flasks consistently for my main and also to make cauldrons for raid. I have yet to see a single proc of his elixir mastery, is this normal? If the proc rate is so low, I think it is not worth it to bother with it. Do the other alchemy specializations have such low proc rates too?
评论来自
810602
May I just add there that the skill requirement for the quests (giving the alchemy specializitions) seems to be 475. =)
评论来自
962597
To be able to obtain the quests again you must go in to the "Profession" tab. Then to the left of "Elixir Mastery" (or whatever other mastery you have.) and there will be a red cirlce with a dash through it, click this then you will be able to learn a new mastery. Be sure not to go too far to the left and delete Alchemy!
评论来自
insaneblade
made 2 Flask of drac Mind got a x5 proc & 4 X2's while i made 30 Spirit ones & got only 2 x2 procs LOL yeah the procs are Either broken or Just really nerfed
评论来自
967962
Does work on Cataclysm flasks, at roughly 20% extra flask rate.
Great way to quickly earn lots of gold. Scoop mats cheaply (when there's lot of herbs on AH), fix up flask price a bit and post your auctions at prime raiding times. Guaranteed gold flow.
Individual procs range from x2 to x5, although 4 and 5 is very rare. In total at 100 flask sample i got 118 in the end, pretty nice profit even if flask price = mat cost. It is usually higher.
Also alchemy seems to be the best raiding profession, hands down. On my SV hunter I get +449 Agility with the profession perk, that's 149 improvement after regular 300. Next best profs fall far behind, with +100 agi Blacksmithing (2 more epic gems) and Engineering (480 agi CD, equal to 80 all-time-up). This 149 extra agi also came from +7% agility buff you get from mail armor and talent but still, the difference is very big. Also 2 hour flask is very handy.
评论来自
merlinver
Since it hasn't been mentioned - be aware that the requirements for switching to Elixir Master require the new Flasks:
2ea Flask of Winter's Bite
2ea Flask of Earth
2ea Flask of Warm Sun
2ea Flask of Spring Blossoms
8 Golden Lotus + other herbs ~ 2500g
or
Buy flasks ~3000g
With the rarity of Golden Lotus, this can be an expensive switch, especially if you haven't already learned the recipes. Sure, gold is easy to come by these days, but you are depending on AH availability or learning it randomly.
If I'd known this I wouldnt have made the switch before getting all the recipes.....
评论来自
EnDsInRuBy
Alchemy Specialization Changes in 5.0.5
In Mist of Pandaria - How to obtain a new Alchemy Specialization has Changed.
Before Selecting a new Specialization, you must first get rid of your old one. To do so, Open up your professions tab and beside your alchemy specialization icon, there will be a RED Cross out symbol (Just like dropping an actual profession).
All you do is hit that to unlearn your current specialization.
Once you have done that, the alchemy trainer in
Stormwind City
or
Orgrimmar
will open up the 3 quest below. Pick one and bring back the required items and you have a new Alchemy Specialization! Choose carefully, the mats turn in are not cheap !
________________________________________
Potion Master Quest
Potion of Luck
(2)
Master Healing Potion
(20)
Master Mana Potion
(20)
________________________________________
Elixir Master Quest
Flask of Spring Blossoms
(2)
Flask of the Warm Sun
(2)
Flask of the Earth
(2)
Flask of Winter's Bite
(2)
________________________________________
Transmute Master Quest
Living Steel
(4)
评论来自
llneo
Does anyone know if you need to be lvl90 in order for the extra flasks to proc? I have a lvl85 525 alchemist with elixir mastery (which I cant be bother lvl to 90) and my guild wants to provide the mats in order to lvl alchemy so that we can benefit from the extra flasks.
评论来自
baiumbg
After making 192 MoP flasks(64 agility, 64 strength, 64 intelligence):
Agility:
Failed to record procs correctly.
Total: 80
Strength:
# of x2 procs: 10
# of x3 procs: 1
Total: 76
Intelligence:
# of x2 procs: 11
Total: 75
Total flasks: 231
Flasks from procs: 39
Percent bonus: 20.3%
评论来自
PEBETON
None of the alchemy specialisations works for Warlords of Draenor Alchemy. They still work on old world content.
Legion Edit (28th August 2016):
Just like in WoD, Alchemy specialisations do not work for Legion recipes. However, with Legion there are several recipes ranks that will make some crafts cost less reagents, or even have a chance to yield additional items (Like the how the specialisations used to work pre-WoD). You can find a lot of useful information regarding Legion recipes ranks, how to get them and their benefits at the official Wowhead Legion Alchemy guide:
Legion Alchemy Guide by Wowhead
Battle for Azeroth edit (Super late I know):
Like in the past 2 expansions, alchemy specialisations do not work with BfA recipes, but just like in legion each craft has its unique rank system that make the recipe work like the old specialisations at rank 3. Likely won't ever see alchemy specialisations make a comeback for new recipes
评论来自
1409234
So no more proc on making flask?
评论来自
Deravabota
冬噬合剂
暖阳合剂
秋叶合剂
大地合剂
春华合剂
Theese and all other MoP recepies can be learned by crafting
神效治疗药水
,
炼金师的回春水
and later by crafting any MoP flask or potion.
It's not 100% chance of getting new recepie, but it took me about 50-70 pots to learn most of them.
This might be useful for those who want to do
药剂大师
quest for
药剂大师
.
药剂大师
does not work for WoD crafting !
评论来自
MrJeffery
A quick heads up for those coming here in Legion. Elixir master
does not work for Legion flasks
.
评论来自
Lizzeh
Does
NOT
work for BFA Flasks
评论来自
Clobberbottum
Horde can Turn in the Elixir Master quest at Thunder Bluff Alchemy Trainer Bena Winterhoof at /way 47, 34
评论来自
Chainbreaker
For anybody wondering if it still works in shadowlands. Nope! sadly not.
链接
WeakAuras 导出
药剂大师
药剂大师
瞬发
使炼金师在配制某些药剂时有几率制造出额外的药剂。
只对潘达利亚和更早时代的药剂有效。
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n/a
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无
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