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评论来自 Khereth

See Block for more detailed information.

评论来自 malcontentus

according to http://thottbot.com/s2565 it has no global cool down. If anyone can verify this then please make a new comment and rate this down.

评论来自 72367

Shield block has no global cooldown, confirmed

评论来自 Archangel

An excellent tanking ability, obviously. I would advise even Arms or Fury warriors to invest at least 12 points into Protection for Last Stand and Improved Shield Block, which extends it's duration by 1 second and gives an extra block. With 12 points invested into protection, all Warriors can tank pretty well.

Anyhow, whenever this skill is not cooling, it should be up while tanking. It can also be used preemptively in PvP; if you see a hunter casting Aimed Shot, stance-dance to Defensive, wait till it almost fires and hit Shield Block to absorb a goodly amount of damage! This can also be used in conjunction with Revenge(especially Improved Revenge) for a good cheap source of damage/threat.

评论来自 63872

this move appears to be unafected by the focused rage talent i respecced yesterday and it stayed at a 10 rage cost instead of reducing to 7 rage

评论来自 83168

That's because the Focused Rage talent applies to offensive abilities. Shield Block is a defensive ability.

评论来自 MeanMachine

In WotLK this ability will recieve a major nerf -> 100% chance to block and 100% increased block value, but ONLY for one attack (one attack that you block, you could still dodge and parry as they take higher priority than block no mater how much you increase the chance). The cooldown gets increased to 30 seconds (you can take away 10 with Improved Shield Block).

No more free avoidance for warriors, and if they remove crushing blows, you won't really need it that much. Anyway, Shield Block becomes more of a panic button now, ensuring that you would at least block .. a lot of damage.

评论来自 25795

Shield Block becomes more of a panic button now

No doubt, it's an enormous nerf, but it's hardly a panic button. Even with the cooldown decreased by talents, spending just ten rage every twenty seconds will make it a spammable action that gives the healers a buffer.

However, I can foresee bosses that hit the tank extremely hard at a specific time, requiring the block to be available and its use well-timed.

评论来自 126814

The change is a fairly substantial nerf to the mitigation aspect of Shield Block, but, combined with Shield Slam, it may be useful for threat generation.

If it functions like other block value modifying talents and abilities, (and comparing spell effects, I suspect it does) the doubling of block value will increase Shield Slam's damage as long as you Shield Slam before the charge is lost. Since Shield Block is not on the GCD, you should be able to create a macro to activate Shield Block and use Shield Slam at the same time.

I'm not in the beta, though, so I can't test this out.

Edit: Thanks to Snags (and some random people on the beta forums) for confirming that this does, in fact, increase Shield Slam damage.

评论来自 Acidpants220

It's not that much of a nerf, considering they're removing Crushing blows.

评论来自 Pyroshen

Everyone needs to read this again.

It's not that much of a nerf, considering they're removing Crushing blows.

Shield block pre-Wotlk was used mostly to keep you at 102% avoidance and avoid crushing blows. But now crushing blows will only happen when the mob is 4 levels above you (meaning at max level nothing will crush you, not even bosses). This means that shield block will just be used to reduce some of the damage taken.

Reducing some (block)< Reducing all (dodge/parry)

Some of you are using old knowledge to argue new laws.

ALSO, to reply to bostung:

I think that with a good macro this would work in increasing the damage of one shield slam.

Something along the lines of
/cast Shield Block
/stopcasting
/cast Shield Slam

Since shield block is instant and doesn't trigger the GCD (IIRC) something can be used instantly after it if macro'd (just like inner focus or trinkets).

评论来自 Drunkard

Beta: 2 Str = 1BV (Confirmed)
Live: 20 Str = 1 BV

Blocks will be blocking a lot more in WotLK and from the looks of the crafted tanking gear (eg. Tempered Saronite Breastplate) strength is going to be an abundant stat on alot of tanking pieces.

评论来自 snags

Bostung, I came across this recently. Not sure how reliable the source is but it's something I guess :)

Can anyone confirm/deny whether or not Shield Block and Critical Block are capable of affecting Shield Slam damage? And if so, are they capable of stacking for a 4x Shield Slam? What I wouldn't do for a beta key...

Shield Block does, but Critical Block does not.

(from http://wotlkwiki.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2519)

评论来自 126814

In pre-WotLK Shield Block had a dual purpose. First, it removed crushing blows from the attack table, and second it reduced the damage taken from virtually every attack by your shield block value. Now it does neither.

You can try to tell me we haven't lost much here, but that's going to be a hard sell.

评论来自 Pyroshen

ALL tank gear (from the past and in the future) is being reworked to include more strength. Take a look at any of your old favorite peices of tanking loot on the regular wowhead and compare it to the wotlk stuff. Across the board almost all pieces are gaining some strength and losing other stats (like hit, defense, shield value, etc)

For example:
Battleworn tuskguard in TBC
Battleworn tuskguard in wotlk

Aldori Legacy defender in Wotlk
Aldori Legacy defender in TBC

This also disproves xiron's comment

It also looks like they're removing the Block Value stat from all pieces of gear that aren't shields, so I don't think that block value numbers are going to be that drastically changed (in relation to what they would be if block value was still in lvl 71+ gear).

评论来自 106589

What happened to "but will only block 1 attack"? The live tooltip specifies that, but this one doesn't. Does the buff actually last the full 10 seconds now, regardless of how many times you block?

评论来自 226332

You gain rage from parrying, but not dodging

No, we dont.

评论来自 39591

We SORT of do... Parry mechanics let us attack sooner when we parry, thus increasing our RPS generation

评论来自 205065

I dno if you shall call this a nerf or a power up now, indeed it gets a long CD, but in mind of that this can be a panic button for tanks is good, since you will block all atacks and your BV is increased it's basically a immune shield to melee normal trash mobs, but that's if you got a high BV

评论来自 Nishika

Imagine a boss like Prince Malchezzar, who in phase to hits you with a lot of strikes right after each other. Popping shield block, which then doubles your chance to block AND block double amount of damage - that is pretty nice. Critical Block only makes this even better - and with the change to Devastate which can reset the cooldown on your Shield Slam, I can see a lot of big Shield Slam incoming.

Overall.. nice change.. gonna be fun to try out. :)

评论来自 Korasoff

Popping shield block, which then doubles your chance to block AND block double amount of damage

Not quite. The tooltip is misleading, to say the least. :)

Block value: this is indeed increased by 100%, as in, doubled. If you block for 500 usually, then using Shield Block increases your block value to 1000.

Block chance: Shield Block adds a flat 100% to your block chance. So if your unbuffed block chance is 10%, for example, popping Shield Block brings it to 110%.

评论来自 90415

People calls this a nerf. Well i see it more as a buff tbh. With the new mechanisms of thunder clap and shockwave (possible including Glyph of Sunder Amor http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43427) Multimob tanking is something a wariror will do more frequently. If you have a good bunch of guys hitting hard on you i can argue that this a bility is even more effective than the good old Shield Wall http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=871.

Imagine yiou have 6 guys hitting on you for 1,5k each every second. Now. the damage you take of course depends on you avoidance, but lets say you got flat out 20% dodge, 20% parry and 20% block. (500 block value) (you are more likely to have more dodge, more block and less parry, but lets just use nice numbers)

Case one. No ability used
you have a 40% chance of avoiding each attack, so out of 6 attacks (6*0,6=3,6) 3,6 attacks will land. 20% of the 6 attacks will be mitigated by block (6*0,2=1,2) attacks will be blocked and the remaining (3,6-1,2 =2,4) will land for 1,5k. Now lets take the example of each of the mobs hitting for 1,5k. 1,2*1000 (note: not 1500 due to block value) = 1200 + (2,4 * 1500) = 4800. They hitted every other second so thats 2400 DPS you take. Without pressing shield block.

Case two. Shield wall used:
here we can just take the numbers from the last case and multuiply with 0,4 (to take out 60% of the damage inflicted) 2400 dps * 0,4 = 960 DPS taken.

Case three. Shield Block used.
You still have 40% avoidance, but now you have 120% block. Block comes after both parry and dodge on the hit table so you have 60% block (and now you also have 1000 block value)

6 attackers inflicting 1,5k damage each every second. 40% of the goes away leaving 3,6 attacks.
3,6 attacks is then blocked for 1000 damage so now they all inflict 500 damage each other second. 500*3,6 = 1800 damage every other second which is 900 DPS taken.

According to my math, shield block is more valuable than shield wall when fighting 6 guys hitting for 1,5k each 2 seconds.. I have used round numbers, but i hope you see my point. Shiled wall and shield block is close, and nobody says you cant use them at the same time (maybe even backed up with Last stand) to mitigate alot of damage.

NOTE: bear in mind that i have not included parry-haste mehanism into this, this can very likely change the output. At least i see shield block as a "mini shield wall" but also as a nice boost to my TPS every 40 seconds.

EDIT: fixed a error, thanks to Korasoff for pointing it out.

/cheers.

评论来自 Korasoff

you have a 40% chance of avoiding each attack, so out of 6 attacks (6*0,6=3,6) 3,6 attacks will land. 20% of them will be mitigated by block (3,6*0,8=2,88) attacks will land while the remaining 0,72 will be blocked. Now lets take the example of each of the mobs hitting for 1,5k. 0,72*1000 (note: not 1500 due to block value) = 720 + (2,88 * 1500) = 5040. They hitted every other second so thats 2520 DPS you take. Without pressing shield block.

This is incorrect. Because of the way the combat table works, you'll block 20% of 6 attacks, or 1.2 attacks. So 2.4 attacks will land, not 2.88.

评论来自 Korasoff

Shield Block and You: A Comparative Analysis

Before patch 3.0, Shield Block increased your chance to block by a flat 75% for 6 seconds, but only had 1 charge, meaning it would block only one attack and then fade. It also cost 10 Rage and had a 6-second cooldown. With the talent Improved Shield Block the cooldown could be reduced to 5 seconds and an additional charge added.

In that incarnation Warriors used Shield Block to boost their total avoidance over 102.4%, at which point boss crushing blows were pushed off the combat table, which greatly increased a Warrior's survivability. If you weren't mashing Shield Block every time the cooldown was up you were doing it wrong! However, the charges made it next to useless against more than one mob at once... not that any guild worth its salt let a Warrior do the AoE tanking over a Paladin back then.

Post-3.0, Shield Block now increases your chance to block by a flat 100% for 10 seconds, doubles your block value for the duration, and lasts its full duration no matter how many times you block since the charges were removed along with the Rage cost. On the downside, the cooldown was increased to 60 seconds. The talent Shield Mastery can now reduce the cooldown to 40 seconds.

The new Shield Block is a vastly different skill from its pre-3.0 form. For one, only mobs four levels higher than you or above can land crushing blows now, meaning boss-level mobs cannot crush anymore. No need to spam Shield Block! But the ability has also acquired a myriad of offensive and defensive uses.

1) Increase your Shield Slam's damage. Since Shield Slam damage is partially based on your block value, doubling it will noticably increase the damage. Popping Shield Block as you Charge a boss and delivering a huge Shield Slam crit to its face locks down aggro like nothing else. Same concept in PvP, except replace "boss" by "squishy cloth wearer". :)

2) Increase your Damage Shield's damage. Same deal as Shield Slam, except Damage Shield shines a lot more when AoE tanking than when tanking a single target. (See #4.)

3) Rage generation. With 5/5 Shield Specialization you gain 2 Rage every time you block an attack. If you find yourself in a low-Rage situation Shield Block may help you get that little extra Rage you need to out-threat your DPSers. The more mobs hitting you, the more Rage you'll receive.

4) AoE tanking. A combination of points #2 and #3. Charge a group of mobs, pop Shield Block, and Thunder Clap. Voilà! The mobs are glued to you thanks to Damage Shield and you have more than enough Rage to Cleave, Thunder Clap, and Shockwave to keep them bashing you instead of the Mage.

5) Emergency "oh shoot" button. If your HPs take a sudden dip popping Shield Block can give your healer the breathing room he/she needs to save your armored butt. The 100% increase to your chance to block means that, for 10 seconds, all physical attacks made against you will be Misses, Dodges, Parries, or Blocks. Only in the last case will you take any damage, and it will be greatly reduced if your block value is high (which it should be). Also, given equal DPS, the faster a mob hits you, the greater Shield Block's effect will be.

6) On-demand Enrage / Revenge. The talent Improved Defensive Stance procs Enrage, and as mentioned in #5, Shield Block turns all attacks into Misses, Dodges, Parries, or Blocks -- the last three of which will Enrage you, increasing all your damage (and thus your threat!). Similarly, you can only Revenge after a Block, Dodge, or Parry. Using Shield Block at the start of a fight means this high-threat attack will be available as soon as it cools down.

评论来自 Cirdin

Figurine of the Colossus works absolutely great with Shield Block.

Macro the use of the Trinket with Shield Block and you have a great formula for 10 seconds of great healing on yourself!

评论来自 Kaaosa

I've made the following macro for my warrior since the 3.0 change to Shield Block

#showtooltip Shield Slam
/cast Shield Block
/cast Shield Slam

This attempts to use Shield Block everytime I use Shield Slam to ensure I use it as soon as its cooldown is up and get good uptime from it, and Shield Block comes first in the macro so that the Shield Slam benefits from the increased SBV.

评论来自 ir0npanda

This is melee immunity for ten seconds in PvP. With my prot gear in TBC (which was not built for high SBV) I could block 1400 pre-armor damage. Now that block value will go way up, and with the +100% SBV from this buff, that means I could block at least 3000 pre armor damage with that gear at level 70.

Keep em in front of you, and no damage will get through from any physical dps class barring some overflow from aimed shot (maybe) for ten seconds.

Then shield wall.

Then retaliate (+damage shield!)

No more double rogue teams CCing the druid while they gank you.

评论来自 Korasoff

I would not use that macro in boss fights. There are certain fights where Shield Block can counter soft enrages or other abilities (think Decimate on Gluth, for example).

评论来自 DrPancake

I might mention that Unrelenting Assault + Defensive Stance + Shield Block + Revenge = Epic Arms Warrior Damage while immune to physical attacks.

评论来自 makron

This is immunity to Gouge.

评论来自 127599

More accurately it is not on the Global Cooldown and does not trigger it.

评论来自 318094

The current state of Patch 3.2 on the PTR has decided that Shield Slam will no longer be affected by Shield Block, but will receive double the threat during Shield Block's duration. At first glance, this looks like a depressing thing (we keep the threat but not the bonus to dps), but then you calm down and realize that with all the other changes going on to block value it's somewhat necessary.

With the block value from items doubling (not including strength or the basic block found on shields), we see a substantial increase to the pool of SBV we already have. Not twice as much, but I'd be so bold as to say maybe somewhere around 30-60% more depending on what your gear is centered around. Furthermore, On-Use bonus SBV trinkets last for twice as long. All these things greatly pump up Shield Slam's damage without factoring in Shield Block so that it's stronger without having to rely on that buff for much, much longer than 12 seconds at a time. With all these things considered, Shield Slam's general threat becomes much higher, our dps is more consistent if not stronger than it was before, and our tps gets a huge boost. This means that in the end, what we are seeing is a rather large threat increase a more consistent dps and a substantial mitigation increase as opposed to a threat increase/dps decrease.

So, in effect, Shield Block's new role in 3.2 sounds like one step back, four steps forward.

评论来自 273450

You can bandage the tank when he pops this... if the boss doesnt do any unblockable damage, that is :)

评论来自 Daiemio

Wonder if you can use this to block instant kill abilities.. like, that last execute, or a overpowering blow, that would no doubt kill a low level?

评论来自 Hapseleg

Okay so i've done quite alot of calculations and there is something ~~wrong~~ with the tooltip! Theres something ~~wrong~~ with this spell.. Okay lets see.
Increases your chance to block and block value by 100% for 10 sec.

Okay so you 100% block chance more, this works as it should
It also says block value by 100%
Now we can all agree that 100% of 500 is 1000 right? Cause when i look at my numbers i NEVER get 100% more BV

I removed all my gear (except for shield) and did some tests (did some with gear aswell)

429 With nothing but shield
759 With nothing but shield + http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=2565

Now 429 times 2 = 858 so something is wrong here.. This isnt 100% more Block value

Then i diveded 759 with 429 (759 / 429) and it gave 1,769230769230769

So this means that it "only" gives me around 80% Block value

With gear i got 1816 (3213 with Shield Block)
that number should have been 3632.
3213 / 1816 = 1,768722466960352

So it seems that this spell in fact dosent give 100% more block value but more like 80ish %

Plz comment on this and go check for yourself :)

Edit: i have now discovered whats wrong: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=2565 does not scale with http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=29599 so its 70%ish it gives

(my armory) http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Jaedenar&cn=Hapsine

评论来自 549559

Can this block http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51722#comments:id=1011153 ?

评论来自 Vurka

THIS IS MADNESS!
Madness?
THIS IS SPARTA!

评论来自 Junyed

100% of 500 is 500. 100% of 500 added to 500 is 1000.

评论来自 kemikalkadet

As of 4.0.1 this ability no longer doubles your block value due to the removal of block as a stat on gear.

评论来自 200795

Shield Block, against regular melee mobs, is more or less a 10 second 30% reduction to damage taken on a 30 second cooldown, assuming it's talented. Critical blocks improves the mitigation further.

评论来自 Fatcatlol

Yay! Nerfed shield block. :(

评论来自 693537

As of the last patch Shield Block increases your block chance by just 25%, but
if your total avoidance exceeds 100%, the excess goes for your critical block.
So basically, if you have say:
20% dodge, 30% parry, 40% block and 25% crit block,
using Shield Block makes you with:
20% dodge, 30% parry, 65% block and 40% crit block
But the question is, can you really exceed these 100%?
Not with the current gear, I presume... Unless you use a trinket

评论来自 693537

Does miss chance count as well?
I mean, when the boss misses, you are practically not avoiding the attack, but simply the boss fails to hit you.
I don't think it has anything to do with avoidance...

评论来自 660647

I don't know, feel free to downrate me, but does attacker's chance to miss an attack on you counts as, well... YOUR avoidance?

评论来自 660647

I meant specificaly this mechanic, which says "if your total chance to block or avoid an attack exceeds 100%, your chance to critically block is increased by the excess.", and now you see, what did I mean.

评论来自 petre

Huh, I don't see it listed anywhere, and I don't know if it's possible yet even if you stack Mastery everywhere in full T12 heroic gear, but if your passive (without Shield Block active) block+avoidance exceeds 100% would the excess be converted to critical block, or is that mechanic only available for the 10 seconds Shield Block is up? The spell details and tooltip would appear to indicate you would get no benefit to critical block unless Shield Block is active, but they don't rule out the implementation of a separate mechanic that does this.

评论来自 CucumberGH

I found that I was forgetting to activate my 地渊之烈火. Rather than abandon the on use completely, I macroed it with 盾牌格挡, which I use whenever it's available:

#showtooltip
/use Shield Block
/use Fire of the Deep

The cooldowns don't match (30s for Shield Block with 防御壁垒, 1m30s for Fire of the Deep), but that's not a big deal. The end result is that one in three applications of Shield Block is on steroids and also gives me an extra 13% dodge before diminishing returns. I know it would be better to activate them separately and distribute my damage reduction, but I had trouble integrating the Fire into my cooldown rotation. This way I benefit from its effect and can forget that I even have it.

评论来自 Shrikesnest

As of Mists, this became less of a no-brainer (thanks to the addition of ) but remains a compelling choice in many situations. Not only does this flat-out reduce any physical damage you would take for 6 seconds by 30%, but it gives every one of those attacks a chance to be critically blocked for a whopping 60% mitigation.

When this is best used is a tricky question, because Shield Barrier is so powerful and much more generally applicable, and using both at the same time is usually redundant. In general, though, if you're taking a lot of physical hits in a short period of time, this is a good cooldown to use, so the beginning of a pull with lots of trash or a phase of any boss fight where they make a lot of physical attacks in rapid succession make good candidates. It really depends on how much absorption you can put out with Shield Barrier, though. Blocking all the damage is better than negating some of it, no matter how you slice it.

评论来自 KobraPL

It seems that the Shield Block cannot have 100% uptime, here's why.
Every charge lasts 6s and has 9s CD. You can use this skill up to 4 times in a row, without reaching cooldown. After that every 6s, you have to wait 3s for the charge to be refreshed.

So, the uptime is:

100%, for the first 4 uses,
66%, for the rest.

I've prepared an image describing the way active time corelates with CD, resulting in such uptime.
Shield Block Uptime Graph

First line: active graph (each dash = 1s)
Second line: cooldown graph (each asterix = 1s)
Numbers represent: skill used(charge used)

评论来自 sylancer

i think the machanism of

DK runes,
Roll,
盾牌格挡, Double Time,
Savage Defense,
Conflagrate, Hand of Gul'dan(Chaos Wave), Demonic Slash, Demonic Gateway,
Angelic Feather and
Clemency

(or is there any others?) are similar.
so can anyone explain what's the cd of these "2/3 charges" system spells? (the cd of Angelic Feather, Demonic Gateway, Double Time and Clemency are clear)

Hearthstone: Shield Block

评论来自 Mali267

I am wondering if this ability block all physical damages or all auto-attack damages.

Another way to ask this: Do all physical damages blockable? Auto-attacks can be blocked, but what about boss mechanics like gruul's inferno strike炼狱打击 or oregorger's acid torrent酸液洪流. They are physical but can we mitigate their damge by shield block?

评论来自 rodalpho

The devs told us exactly how Prot Warrior abilities work in PvP at the link(s) below.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20747314610#2

I'm pasting it here as they typically delete the beta forums after release.

Focused Rage increases the damage of Shield Slam by 20% in PvP (down from 50%)
Ignore Pain absorbs for 40% in PvP
Shield Block increases Shield Slam damage by 12% in PvP (down from 30%)

评论来自 ginny

In Legion, the term “Active Mitigation” refers to a single, specific ability that a Tank must use as a “counter” to specific boss abilities.

These boss abilities are designated as “Mitigation Checks”. If you fail to use Active Mitigation against a Mitigation Check, you receive an additional negative side effect, e.g. being flung away by a boss (达古尔 of Neltharion's Lair) or the boss gaining a shield ( in Vault of Wardens).

Here is a list of the Active Mitigation abilities for each Tank Specialization in Legion:

Guardian Druid - Ironfur
Protection Warrior - Shield Block
Protection Paladin - Shield of the Righteous
Vengeance Demon Hunter - Demon Spikes
Brewmaster Monk - Ironskin Brew
Blood Death Knight - Mastery: Blood Shield / Death Strike / Marrowrend

Note. Marrowrend grants Active Mitigation via a short Recently Used Death Strike buff. Bone Shield itself provides no Active Mitigation. Also, unlike all other Tank Specializations' Active Mitigation, Blood Death Knight's abilities are on the global cooldown table ("on the GCD") therefore cannot be used at any time.

评论来自 mintea

The new shield block spell ID is 132404 with the T19 2-set bonus. For simple WAs, enter this in the trigger and enable Full Scan.

评论来自 sephi1659

Do we need to have a shield to use this ability in Shadowlands as arms/fury warriors?

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盾牌格挡
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举起盾牌，格挡所有对你发动的近战攻击，持续6 sec。

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