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王佐之才完美机会要么加入我们露骨的威胁信任票要么反抗我们死亡化身小道消息囊中之物莉莉丝的勇士朋友的好处

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评论来自 varenne

Or Against Us is part of 苏拉玛楷模 - Statecraft storyline. More questchain info
Need to have 8000/12000 Honored with 堕夜精灵 to start this questline
This questchain is attune for The Arcway and Court of Stars Mythic only dungeons

Here is Or Against Us video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0GLCi-7XiU

So you need 1200 远古魔力 and i think the best farmspot is Twilight Vineyards.
Use 传送：暮光酒庄 and you can farm 2k mana there in 5-10 mins.
Here is demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nGV1fizZEw

And here is storyline related to this quest:

№ Quest Note Video
73 完美机会 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP_qeZ8tghI
74 要么反抗我们 AP Need 1200 远古魔力 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0GLCi-7XiU
75 死亡化身 腐化的暮湾纹章 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-RMU423Sx4
76 小道消息 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nmGfNJ9Wlg
77 要么加入我们 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r1E_bKOcxY
78 露骨的威胁 泰坦盒坠 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsSZGFnWtzg
79 信任票 魔法夜之子硬币 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmEXXk5qva8
80 囊中之物 魔法夜之子硬币 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9w834jKAl0
81 莉莉丝的勇士 月光雕像 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipaACK8Vfjk
82 朋友的好处 魔法夜之子硬币 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcUsDGTd_No
83 魔法回廊：打开魔法回廊 空间知识大全 The Arcway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy-qf0bmtXo
84 群星庭院：君子报仇，十年不晚 上古其拉神像 Court of Stars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7gyknf33ec
85 魔法回廊：掩埋已久的知识 The Arcway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tzGEIfvb6c

№ column is quest approximate order in Suramar storyline

Update for people curious about quest order: Check main post 苏拉玛楷模#comments:id=2360457
As you can see you can pick up both Either With Us and Or Against Us at the same time.

评论来自 Horat
阿鲁因 is on the left side of the building (north side), not inside.

评论来自 paladinty
Make sure you're not in a raid group when you pay him...

评论来自 Feliria
God I hate this guy. So greedy. So selfish. 1200 ancient mana, you miserable little elf?

评论来自 lazaro398
If you can't find your way back to Arluin, his location is /way 48.92 73.44

评论来自 ChrisAKAPiefish
I'm fairly sure that 1200 mana is slightly more than exists in the world

评论来自 eternus
Arduin is only asking me for 800 Ancient Mana. Not sure of the difference... does he drive the price up after I pay that first 800?

评论来自 CzechCloud
If you are not a fan of farming ancient mana like me, you can buy a lot of 远古魔力水晶 for about 250g each on EU servers.

评论来自 Kriipsu
I lost track of my quest chain, because when i first talked to him, i didn't have enough mana to pay him... later he didn't show on map anymore.

评论来自 alpanhell
You want to get this quest done (i.e. pay the 1200 mana) before you go and do the other quest you're given at the same time (要么加入我们). The next quest after this (死亡化身) is basically in the same area.

评论来自 Boxofbeer
阿鲁因 located at 48.8 73.4 point, between buildings. Now you have to bring him 1200 远古魔力 to be able to turn up the quest.
Also, check if you arent in raid group, otherwise you have to find mana crystalls again.
TomTom:
/way Suramar 48.8 73.4 Arluin

要么反抗我们 — www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ee3PLa85A

评论来自 stephmar86
Do you HAVE to be at 8000/12000 honored for the quest to show up? I just finished the Blood and Wine quest line, but there was no new quest when I returned to Thalyssra in Sahl'Aran. I am only at 5657/12000 Honored with the Nightfallen, so I am wondering if that is why the quest is not available to me. If that is the reason, what, besides world quests, can I do to increase my rep with them?

评论来自 redcons
Azuregale Bay is the place to farm mana hands down. There is that 80% buff that makes it super quick.

评论来自 Trimor
For some reason i cannot speak to Arluin. i've tried disabling all of my addons, abbandoning the quest, reloading my UI, restarting the game and nothing seems to work.

评论来自 selkie47
One of the biggest F you to the players right here. NOT an enjoyable quest and its stuck right in the middle of the suramar questline for flying...

评论来自 Niecho
Azuregale Bay may have used to have been a good place to farm mana, but it's not anymore. Incredibly slow swimming unless you're a druid in travel form. Few nodes here and there. Seems faster to try elsewhere.

评论来自 Saxbeck
In Shadowlands expansion you can just jump your fligth mount ( if you have flying trained ) and follow the mana nodes on map. ( Need to enable "track minerals" on minimap ) and if you go to Azuregale Bay use your underwater mount if you have any like a seahorse f.ex.

At the bottom of the Bay area nodes looks exactly like the surrounding minerals so look carefully and mouse over everything

评论来自 Metoda
UPDATED

the best 远古魔力 farm is in Suramar City

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远古魔力 farm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiwNoyUjSZk&t=1s&ab_channel=METODZIK

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how to complete this quest!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVbiPVl_pMI

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要么反抗我们

与阿鲁因交谈。

	寻求阿鲁因的帮助（1）
	收买阿鲁因（1）

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如果要让莉莉丝坐上大魔导师顾问的位子，我们必须为她开路。的确会有一些人支持她，但仅靠他们无法确保那个位子。莉莉丝还必须对付其他家族。恐惧和胁迫是他们的工具。没人敢公开反抗他们，我们也无法依靠恩惠和誓言拉他们入伙。找到阿鲁因。关于接下来该怎么做，我相信他肯定有不少点子。

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您会收到：

	魔法夜之子硬币

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完成任务后，你将获得：

75 点堕夜精灵声望

输入以下代码查看此任务是否已完成

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(43311))

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Comprehensive Suramar Guide Nightfallen Reputation Guide

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