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评论来自 853396

pert' near impossible...there has to be a pattern but i can see it yet!

评论来自 Dreadlack

This quest may seem infuriating at first, but once you figure out how to do it, it actually becomes quite fun.

The objective is to stay alive during 90 seconds without getting knocked out of the ring or dying, at which point you will have to start all over.

Whenever a Shado-Pan Trainer comes near you, he will knock you back.

Whenever you come into contact with the spinning blades you will take damage.

The key to completing this quest is therefore to move around, dodging the Trainers while making sure you are not touching the constantly spinning blades.

评论来自 641813

Found out, there is a MINOR trick to doing this successfully. As with a lot of the Pandaren quests, patience is everything. When you head in, go for a centralized ring of blades. Make sure your camera is backed out a ways, and looking almost straight down. This gives you the advantage of watching the pandas that will knock you around. You can run around the center ring with some starting/stopping to avoid most of the pandas, and come out with around 80% health. GL!

评论来自 Nokomis77

Worst quest ever. I was able to do it after dying 5 times. Not one of my faves.

评论来自 DesDestro

This is kind of a tough one, but the key is picking one of the central blade spinners and running in circles around that, it's WAY easier to avoid the pandas coming at you than to avoid the ones coming at you AND the ones you're running into. Just zoom your camera out and keep it at a high angle and you should be fine.

评论来自 836360

This isn't the most fair way to do this, but after getting toss out a few times attempting it the traditional route, I found out I could do it as a druid in flight form if I flew over the ring in bird form and sat as close as I could to the ground without taking damage from the blades. The trainers would continue to bump me back occasionally but if you sit far enough in the center of the ring it shouldn't be a problem. Completed it that way.

Might work with other flying mounts too.

评论来自 jaq1010

Very badly designed quest. It seems that towards the end, the number of pandas in the ring doubles, because i can get to about 10 seconds left before about five of them surround me. It's right annoying.

评论来自 RoryD

It's actually quite easy to complete this quest without taking any damage at all.

The trick is to stand in the gap in between two blades (as opposed to in the center of four), which means that only one Trainer is a potential threat at any one time. Choose a gap close to the edge of the arena, dodge into another gap diagonally when the Trainer in that channel has just run past, and dodge back again when the first Trainer has run past you and turned around as well.

评论来自 1042049

just attemped this for the very first time, i had about 5 secs left and was over ran by those damn pandas and was booted out the ring. i dont know if anyone has tried (once the servers are back up) would ice block help work?
just tried using ice block, i was knocked around still and took damage, ice block does not help.

评论来自 Abecus

This is how I did it, first try.
I planted myself against one of the small posts surrounding the field, my back flat against it. Every once in awhile two trainers would pound on me, but I never got knocked out of the field, and never took ANY damage.

评论来自 trekker9876

this stupid quest is so infuriating
worst quest in the entire game

评论来自 693301

I found the way to do this daily without any problems :) You have to land with your flying mount on a pillar outside near the border of the ring and dismount then! You have to be careful to land when the pandaren trainers are somewhere else, because you can be hit during landing :< Hope this helps :)

评论来自 Madtoady

I've made a quick video to so show you guys an easy way to complete this quest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pLPdxaT5Qs

评论来自 Punchatron

Be the leaf~

评论来自 543619

Blizzard. I can forgive the drop rate on the Succulent Turtle Meat.

I may be able to forgive the daily quest where we use fireworks to knock fruit out of trees only to have other players bag them.

Hell, I will even forgive the quest in Hyjal where we had to try and bag scrambling critters.

Kickin' Nass!

Vics Keys!

All of this, can be forgiven!

But this....

This.

What were you thinking? What were you smoking?

评论来自 749141

i just want you to explain one thing how the hell does a blade crit?

评论来自 1045664

If you are a monk, you can use 被烧毁的雕文 and hover a little above the area and AFK for 90 seconds.

评论来自 Rosebeef11

Another easy way to do this quest is to use Restorative Amber which is sold by Ambersmith Zikk (Honored Klaxxi reputation required) for 10g each.

Just stand in the middle and click the Amber, it has 1second cooldown, so you can basically spam it.

This won't give you the achievement, but will complete the quest, and I just had to try another way to do this cause Veritha's way didn't worked for me :P

评论来自 Tygerwolfe

Not sure if this is a glitch or not, but for druids, this quest is incredibly easy. I went into flight form, which doesn't count as a mount, and hovered right over the pillars. No damage, no knocking around, and in 90 seconds, the quest completes. Did submit it to WoW as a potential bug, though, just in case - I don't want to have exploited something.

评论来自 908114

You can cheat this quest a little bit if you're a healing class by just standing in the blades next to a piller and spamming heals on yourself. That way, you'll stay alive while at the same time, they pandaren won't be able to hit you.

You know... in case they ever decide to fix the super-cheap pillar strategy.

评论来自 Spectrence

This is a rather poorly thought out quest. Everytime I go and do it, It's just full of people using the stand-on-pillar technique. At most I've seen two people (myself included) stepping foot inside the ring itself. I don't know who designed this quest, but I have no idea what their plan was.

For those who need tips as a warlock and don't want to stand on pillars, I use my demonology spec with the Dark Apotheosis glyph (damage reduction), demonic circle placed in a nice blade-free area (using as needed if I get knocked around too far) and using a combination of the passive Soul Harvest regen, Fury Ward (from DA) and Imp's stamina buff (for Soul Harvest) and Cauterize Master to keep my health up.

Honestly, though, my health never dipped below 95%. Using DA might've been enough, if not overkill on its own. If you're of a different spec, sacrifice's passive regen or soul link with an imp may just as well be enough.

评论来自 1046969

It still works as of 10/17... After getting wasted 5 or 6 times, I came here to see if I was missing something. I'm spec'ed as a Demonology Warlock and since I could not Harvest Life, I was going down fast, even with Elixirs, Potions and a Health Stone ticking, never more than half way through. I found that if I dismounted slightly to the rear of the pole, while facing the center, I would not get knocked off. Worked like a dream for me. Thanks!

评论来自 vixeliaeonar

If there is one quest that is morally bankrupt and disturbing, it is this one, not because of the difficulty, because of how they, "friendly" pandas, enjoy brutally beating you to a blood pulp...lol

评论来自 OldWolf2

To do this quest, go to 19,68. If you are in the right area, an energy bar appears on your screen and you wait for it to fill up.

It is NOT the fenced area in front of the hut near where you get the quest.

评论来自 Winford

This was a great help. Really hard to land a flying mount on one of those poles though.

评论来自 DuBzY

YOU DO NOT NEED TO DISMOUNT FOR THIS QUEST! Hovering over the area is the best way to do this quest! theres nothing that says you have to be on the ground. this is almost as fun as the mine field in Storm Peaks. LOL this is only for druids! sry guys!

评论来自 carens

EASY TRICK: Hug the post at 18.8, 67.8

You just stand there! You take NO damage and you don't get bumped. Quest complete!

评论来自 anavette

I found the best way to do this is to just stand hugging a pole and you take zero damage. Not sure if it's all poles so the one I am standing at is 19.17 68.48

Here is a screenshot as well http://i.imgur.com/NlMwZ.jpg?1

评论来自 mihalidis

This quest, together with 生存之环：火焰 is part of the achievement 准备突袭第三季.

~~It is not mentioned as tab here in wowhead.~~
edit: added as tab by wowhead

评论来自 shoxi

I gave up trying to land on the outermost post. They hit me anyway. BUT I was able to stand at 17.99, 69.13 and took absolutely no damage and completed the quest.

评论来自 bgp0231

If you are a druid just plop ur self in flying form over the rings and get quest quick and painless.

评论来自 1050407

Just a quick tip that worked for me...the Klaxxi quartermaster sells some restorative amber, that when you use it encases you in amber and restores 300000 hp...I just used it and was easy

评论来自 846723

There is a point to stand where you won't get hit by anything.
If you stand on the west side, go to the right stone wich markes the end of the field and stand on its left side and go a few small steps back.
It still counts and the pandaren won't punch you. :)

But you wouldn't want to cheat, would you?

评论来自 312214

Blizzard engineers need to stop smoking that. Just annoying, nothing more. When they wanna to loose more players, this is the way.

评论来自 greenknee

I landed on one of the outside posts and simply stayed there for the full 90 seconds, someone saw me and copied and they got credit as well.

评论来自 bonstar

Just discovered as a Druid I can hover in bird form just above the blades and Pandas on outer edge and get total credit but not get hit by anything

评论来自 1051636

I hate this quest! Died so many times! The discovered if you are a druid, go into bird form and fly low over the ring. You will get the credit for the quest.

评论来自 rulioffro

Just did this today on my druid...shapeshifted into Swift Flight Form...quest said complete and I know for a fact I didn't take any damage because of my shapeshift but I did not get the credit from Survival Ring: Blades part of Ready for Raiding III. Dunno if I did it wrong or if it's a glitch or if blizz hotfixed this now.

评论来自 greenknee

I have successfully done this 4 times now. You simply stand on the post that is not touching any green and wait 90 seconds. It didn't wotk on a post that was touching any grass.

评论来自 Axelacks

I found the easiest way to do this was stack up on: 3 x

Restorative Amber from the Klaxxi Quartermaster. When your health gets low pop this and then heal up while you get bounced around. Rinse and repeat 3 times.

评论来自 Digenis80

This is how I did it:
Check my screenshot first

The trainers numbered 1 and 2 got up and down on their line.
The trainer numbered 3 goes right-left on his line. (maybe there was another one, don't remember, was concetrated on doing it rather than taking a screenshot xD )

So when the trainer No 1 is at the end of his line I stay between the blades and wait.
When he comes near me I change lane following the path drawn with purple color (because the trainer No 2 is at the other end of the lane). There I wait until he comes. And when he comes, I return to my previous spot.
Just keep in mind the trainer numbered 3.

I know it's easier done than I put it on words!

Good luck :)

评论来自 alli288

If you are a druid this will be the easiest quest of your life....shapeshift into flight form and hover over the ring without actually landing. The little bar pops up and the timer starts...hover for the 90 seconds and you are finished!

评论来自 Brainmanager

it seems that they have changed it again. i have now 2 days in a row standing on a pillar without being knocked down.

评论来自 984584

I have found that if you start off by one of the grey boarder pillars, stand just inside of them so your timer starts and strife sideways to avoid the pandas that run about the course. I have done this on 2 different toons now with only a few mishaps due to the timing of when the pandas ran to where i was. I have submitted a screen shot to show the best spot i have found to get this achievement.

评论来自 1054483

I was able to stand at 18.0,69.2 (right in between to pylons) and not get smacked by pandas. Bar filled up, quest completed.

I can't promise this will work for everyone or even work every time. But it's worked twice for me.

评论来自 992526

As stated in previous posts, one of the easiest ways to avoid taking any damage while completing this quest is to remain outside of the bladed area atop one of the posts.

If you fly to <19.9 / 68.1> you'll be directly above one of the outside posts. I did this a few different times and came out with the exact same map coordinates each time. You'll want to stay hovered a bit above the post until the NPCs move away from you. If you get too low and one of the pandas hit you, you may get knocked back and have to move back in to position.

Pandas will move towards you almost as a group, and then they'll move away. When they start to head away from you, tap 'x' to start moving down. If you see the pandas getting close to you again, just tap the space bar to fly back up.

Once you're close enough to drop without causing yourself any damage, dismount, and your timer will start. If you've landed in the right spot, the pandas will move close to you, but not hit you. It may take a few times to get your landing just right, but once you do the quest is a breeze. You can even play around with the landing a couple of times to get the hang of what you need to do, then abandon the quest and re-accept when you're ready to actually start it.

Once your 90 seconds are up, mount up and turn in the quest. If everything worked, you should see the quest checked off under the achievement 准备突袭第三季

评论来自 989147

Worst quest in all history. Not just WoW, ALL games

评论来自 MaBaer

I followed the directions of landing on the pillar, dismounting n just standing there and it worked first time. This is a big deal as landing a big tauren on a little pillar not easy : ) I did look at a previous poster's screen shot and that helped tremendously. Now maybe next the daily shows up, I will attempt to go in the ring to see what happens.

I did this on echo isle server on 11/19/12 if that helps ya

评论来自 Joyouslydead

Apparently the method of landing on one of the pillars on the outside of the ring no longer gives you credit for the Ready For Raiding III achievement. I accomplished the quest using this method several times without taking damage & didn't receive credit...what a shame it was fixed, now we have to do it the real way...

Edit! Just got the achievement today (11/20/2012) so standing on the pillar still works. Must have taken damage somewhere along the line the last few times I did this.

评论来自 100467

I think I found another way to do this.

The 'blades' are in a ring - not a disk. I initially started out with my Holy Pally blueberry just healing himself in healer gear (worked fine). At one point, I got knocked into a position where one of the posts was right at my back, inside the ring of blades.

My pally could stand there indefinitely, neither taking damage or blows, until the timer ran out. This is a big male blueberry; one of the larger toons. I'm sure it will work for many others.

评论来自 1050905

Easy steps to beating this quest and getting the achievement step:

Run around the outside of the ring until you see the flag in the sky
Find the outside pillar directly in line with the flag
Edge up on the left side of the pillar inch by inch after starting at the middle; tap forward until the progress bar for the 90 seconds comes up
Sit still and watch the dummies run around mindlessly for 90 seconds

I'm guessing landing on the pillars works too, but I couldn't successfully do this. I also tried the edges of a few other pillars as well and kept getting bumped out; this is the only place I found that was safe and registered as being "in" the ring.

评论来自 ToviValdora

As of 5.1, standing on the pots/pillars (whatever you want to call them) no longer works. I did it anyways even after I got the achievement to be lazy. Got knocked off several times (wanted to make sure before posting.)

评论来自 904999

I found a place to stand and not take damage. It is close to an entrance near the right end of the Training Targets stand between the blades and a pillar. No damage after a long period of trying to get the heck out of this nightmare of a quest.

评论来自 Jaebn

Unfortunately, as of patch 5.1 the pillar-standing trick no longer works.

评论来自 gilroykilroy

As a restokin I made the mistake of trying to do this in caster mode. Once I switched to heal spec I was easily able to keep myself healed up.

评论来自 MelwensLady

wish could be possible to kill those shado-pan trainers whenever they throw you out of Survival Ring >.<
Really annoying, does Blizz expect us to meditate in WoW ?

评论来自 Drucilly

Cant seem to make this one work after pathc! REMOVE this ugly quest right away please! I hate it, it makes me really pissed. WTH did you make this one for blizz srsly stupid ppl!

评论来自 jxnboy007

PRIESTS- as of 5.1 11/29/2012) for the achievement! Here's the challenges I faced: I used the pillar and did as instructed but once you land on the pillar, the Pandas would knock me off. I would either get knocked out of the ring and have to start completely over or knocked around a few times and eventually get sliced by the knives taking damage and negating the whole purpose. I tried running around dodging and anyone who has tried this knows, it's ridiculous. So here's the answer: Use the post at 19,68. The one which is standing a bit further out and in the dirt, get a 'secure landing' (adjusting position and using 'x' to check the landing works best- mind the pandas) and then, here's the solution: Levitate! Get some priest love. As a shadow priest, I did this and had absolute ZERO issue! Levitate, while on the post, allows me to stay in the ring and out of range of the panda trainees below, as they NEVER bothered me. I waited my timer bar out, checked for all Pandas to leave the immediate area, turned and walked off the post; turned in the quest for achievement! Was easily done afterall..GOOD LUCK! (plz up-vote if it worked for you too).

评论来自 LadySilverwolf

As of patch 5.1, they have enabled the trainers to hit you while on the post. Inching near did not work either. But do not fear, there is a way to get this achieve.

Find the three pillars to the east (waypoint 19,67). Watch the timing of the panda trainers that are running the from east to west. This is critical to how LONG you can avoid the two of them.

Run between these three posts, always keeping them to the lower portion of your screen. Zoom out as far as you can. Run from east to west, avoiding the pandas that run from north to south (this is not hard to do, really. You will see your meter climb as you run back and forth between these three pillars. Even if you get knocked out, its far easier to restart this partular back and forth motion instead of trying to weave your way through the swords.

Good Luck, and may you earn this part of 准备突袭第三季 !

评论来自 Cropz

I've noticed that in 5.1 the NPCs no longer make any curves in their paths and will only go in straight lines, actually making this quest (and the achievement) a lot more predictable and easy.

评论来自 joss002

After so much pole dancing success i think they "fixed" it.THis time landed on the pole and got knocked off time after time.DAMN pain in the ass....

评论来自 847245

http://i49.tinypic.com/1kqqe.png

My position for this quest, no hits or damage taken whatsoever. It's in front of a line of blade spinners, so no warrior coming up to me vertically, and it's far enough forward for the warriors going around my sector of the perimeter to not be able to reach me.

If you can't see me or tell where my position is, look at my minimap, and I'm the tall thin blotch of red.

Basically I stood inside the spinner's range, the backed out until I was just barely far enough to not get hurt.

评论来自 Sparq300

I was able to do this with a little bit of luck. I marked the Shadow Pan Trainers which went up and down on the same row. After that its just a matter of moving around so you dont get touch by the Twirling Blades.

评论来自 Muxtarr

Guys how is it possible to know whether this quest is available today without doing whole daily chain? Since I am exalted already it really sucks to do lots of lotus dailies every day with just a chance of necessary quest available.

评论来自 Sidiouss

Just simply five words.

What the hell was that ?

评论来自 Seac

Okay bear with me, my map making skills are not amazing.

I finally got this achievement tonight, post-5.1, and it took me about half an hour. Here's a rough drawing of where I moved, with a star marking where I stood.

When standing on the end of the ring nearest to the wooden gate, I moved into the column between the blades.

Watching the guy moving up and down in that column, I waited for him to come back and then moved into the bottom row, on whichever side would be last to return before I could move back into place.

Doing this, I was able to stand safely between two blades, only moving about five times when the guy in that column returned.

It took me about a dozen tries, but I was eventually able to pull it off and finish the Ready For Raiding III achievement. The biggest problem I encountered was the occasional "perfect storm" where they would all converge at once and I had nowhere to run. However, that doesn't happen all the time, and it didn't happen at all on the last attempt.

Hopefully this helps someone.

评论来自 974299

This goes for attempts after patch 5.1.

I found this video very usefull.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L70fx8aMNwI

Also you CAN get hit by the pandas - NOT the blades. The pandas don't do dmg.

GL

评论来自 749141

unfortunately you can longer stand on a post and let the clock run out which makes this half of the achievement pretty much impossible but actually surviving this quest is quite easy especially if you have something that absorbs damage or any way of healing if you do half something that absorbs damage just jump in the middle of the ring and try your best to avoid the pandas how ever if your health is limited and cant take the blunt approach the best tip i found has been to start of at the edge in the middle of four blades and as the pandas come you move back forth left or right your going to have to make radical turns just try not to get to far from the edge

评论来自 SecretNinjaMan

This quest is total FAIL! PLEASE fire the individual who thought of this. Who ever thought of this is sadistic. /sigh worst quest ever in my years in WoW. edit delete

评论来自 zantomun

If you have enough cooldowns/heals, stand in a ring long enough and they stop hurting you after 30 seconds or so, and you can afk for the rest

评论来自 1062708

Shadowpriest here.

I found a spot on the eastern side where I just had to strafe back and forth and front and back using the keyboard.

I also spammed Renew and Power Word Shield when I could. Anything to stave off the damage.

Diffusion will buy you six seconds, but the cooldown is so long you have only one shot at it. Wait until you're near the end and use it.

评论来自 axelia

For anyone working on 准备突袭第三季 with this, you cannot take any damage between picking up and handing in the quest.

If you take damage you need to abandon and retake the quest otherwise you will not get the achievement update.

If you want to take no damage, I suggest hovering above the area and watching some of the outer posts and patrols, these are the easiest to avoid and get out of the ring afterwards.

评论来自 305264

Standing next to the pillar inside the swirling blades will keep you from getting hit by the guys running around.
For tanks:
Pop a defensive CD to mitigate damage. If you have some self heals you can use they help too. As a DK I sacked a ghoul which wasn't really necessary as I only lost 400k health.
For Healers:
Just keep healing damage to stay alive and after a few seconds the blades will stop hitting you.
For Mages:
I went in with Ice Barrier for the damage absorption. After that I used Evocation with the glyph to heal myself. Also was spec'ed into Invocation which helps with the 10 sec CD.

Note:
Remember these tactics are meant to be used while standing right next to one of the pillars. For any dps other than mages... sorry, you have to figure out your own tactic.

评论来自 892035

The trick standing in the blades and healing yourself, still works, if youre a healer class anyway. After the frist 30 sec, the blades don't do you any damage.

评论来自 Rothar

I submitted a screenshot, but here's what I found makes doing this with no damage real easy (as of patch 5.1):

First, set yourself up at the southern end of the area, centered. There are two pandas running long paths all the way to the other end. Then two more pandas split the base (just inside the area marked by the barrier posts) - their paths stop in the center, they're harder to avoid, but with the help of the aforementioned pandas doing the long run, it becomes kinda easy.

By timing the pandas who run the long route, this helped me avoid the two pandas splitting the base. I'd basically park myself in between blades on one of the long paths, wait for one or both of the pandas that split the base to clear, then dodge into their area real quick while the long running panda clears my area, then follow him back to the area between the first blades. Then just rinse and repeat.

You may have to dodge into the first row, but there's only one panda there who runs end to end. With the timing of each panda varying slightly, you can't just stay in one or two spots the entire 90 seconds, you do have to move around a bit...but only a little bit.

评论来自 Tiantang

I did this quest 3x now and got to 90 seconds and each time it did not count! How am I suppose to finish this quest if it never completes? This has got to be the WORST quest (daily) Blizzard has ever put into game!

评论来自 Jayrai

Using spells such as Divine Shield and Ice Block will protect you from damage of course, but you will still be pushed around.

评论来自 LionsMike

Wow after many many attempts over several hours ( I am well into my second Alchemists Flask) and I have gone through 45 or 65 Conjured Mana Puddings (I have 15 left of 3rd or 4th conjur) I have to comment.

I have tried many of the suggested tactics. Some were able to get me to 40% or so of the bar but none any more than that.

Since I consider most of them to be cheating, you can surmise that I believe this to be quest which absolutely requires cheating. Blizzard would do well to simply give any player who completes this one an automatic suspension from the game.

If the sadistic S.O.B.s at blizz really wish to put players through this kind of cruel and unusal punishment, they could atleast suspend the ressurection wait period after our first 20 or 30 deaths.

A good idea would be to increment it to reduce the time needed on the progress bar by 20% after every 25 attempts so that after 100 deaths a player could complete it in 18 seconds. Of course many players might find this one possible in 36 to 54 seconds. I know I lasted 36 seconds or more at least 3 or 4 times in my first 100 attempts. but some players may not be as good as I am.

评论来自 taltgabi

It seems that none of the glitches listed here work anymore as of 5.1. As a druid, I had to change to my healer spec, go to the middle of the arena (where the chance of getting knocked out is not that high), spam instant heals on myself and sometimes go back to the middle.

评论来自 Firelocked

Nothing worked for me, I play this game for enjoyment and challenge, but I don't need this kinda crap.

评论来自 Truckie

As a healer this quest can be extremely easy, just walk up to a blade take the damage and heal yourself through it. After a few seconds they just completely stop doing damage and you can just sit there until your quest completes.

评论来自 1071864

My mother and I were having some of the same frustrations as others here with this quest, but we found a way that worked for us last night on our feral druids.

I waited for a moment when the center path was clear, ran to the center of the ring, then stopped. When the trainers came running, I let them hit me. I only moved when I got knocked into the blades, or when I was getting knocked to the edge of the ring.

I did NOT try to avoid getting hit by the trainers this time, which is what mom and I had both done before. Since damage only comes from the blades, I only moved when I got knocked into the blades, or when I was in danger of getting knocked out of the ring. Popped Renewal and a healing potion, but Mom and I both managed to complete the quest on our first attempt this way. My mother did die a couple of seconds after completing hers (didn't manage to get out of the ring fast enough, hehe), but she still completed.

I realize this is not very helpful as far as 准备突袭第三季 is concerned, but it's at least a start as far as getting the quest completed so you can finish the rest of the dailies for the day.

评论来自 mamav

This quest is simply outrageous. If you do not have some means of self-healing you cannot do it. As a rogue I found out evasion or combat readiness doesn't work. And on top of that you cannot continue the dailies' line if you don'y pass that atrocity.
Any help would be appreciated.

评论来自 Thored

So best thing to do is stand near pillar at 20 68
You get 3 pandas coming to the spot but you should be able to move out of the way & then back again.

评论来自 1017531

Be the leaf!

评论来自 WizzardlordUK

This is the sort of quest that has you frustrated & running to wowhead for advise as i did. I had no trouble with my priest due to self heals so didnt take much notice of mechanics untill i tried on my mage 1 death and 2 fails (blinked out ring before dead) had to come here for advise. Once you realise the mechanics of it you will kick yourselves for making it harder than it was. it's a simple case of observation and timing.

1. Stand Directly in the Middle of 2 blade posts (no dmg is taken from blades when you are stood inbetween a pair)
2. When a Panda kicks you into a blades post you can either move back to same spot (depending on how many kicks you got, it can vary from 1-3 the more kicks you get the further from the original spot you wil be, any more than 1 kick and its probably best to find a new spot, a new spot is nether more than an inch away, all you have to do now is observe the panda's so you dont place yourself in a new spot where a panda is gonna kick you almost instantly)

评论来自 IamAzzrazzah

Really? What the hell is the use of these two quests?

评论来自 sbowesuk

The problem with this quest/achievement isn't the concept, it's the poor implementation.

The hit box of the Shado-Pan Trainers is noticeably larger than their bodies would suggest, meaning even if you don't physically touch them and leave room to spare, you can still find yourself getting knocked on your ass. They've essentially got an invisible wall around them that'll punch you from a few yards away...

This could have been a fun challenge, but trying to negotiate invisible mechanics that punish precision is fail. gg Blizard..

评论来自 check89point

I just absolutley refuse to do this stuip quest. I've tried about 5 times and just give up on it! Blizz, get rid of it!

评论来自 1022455

After spending over an hour trying to do this quest, I gave up. Seriously hard for a mage. I tried every which way to get in and avoid the pandas, never mind the blades.... Even my son who is good at this kind of puzzle couldn't complete this quest for me. I will never attempt it again.

评论来自 Breeg

It is doeble.
DPS Warrior 90. with stamina and HP buffs. You need luck.
First, I've run blindly into the center of the ring. Then - was hit several times, but was on about 40%. Then - I've used bandages just to be sure that I've done everything to succeed.
Voila.

评论来自 fgg850

No problem whatsoever as a Warrior. Just kept myself in the center of 4 spinning blades and walking around avoiding the trainers where possible. Even got time to put on some bandages at the end.

评论来自 664366

this is super easy you people are challenged

评论来自 NearlyNormal

Currently (as of 2013/02/02) is there any reasonably reliable method for a well-geared Mage to do this daily quest? The Survival Ring: Flames is not that difficult, and the one where you have to defeat 20 Pandas in combat is trivial for a Mage with half-way decent AoE capabilities -- just stand there in Rune of Power with Ice Barrier up and use Arcane Explosion every time at least three Pandas are alive inside blast radius.

But Blades is very difficult for those with Cloth armor, no matter how good it is. I survived Blades once, but just drop it as a daily quest now since it just racks up repair bills and wastes my time.

评论来自 Mydge

As a mage, relatively easy. Wear Ice Barrier, but blades were hitting for 20-25k which isnt much really.

I stood at one end, between 2 runs. Mark the pandas running the length to keep an eye on them.

I just stood between two blades until the panda came back down the run at me, and manouevering around the two pandas on the edge walked from one run to the other.... Easier than running all over the paddock.

评论来自 1090378

It's actually isn't that bad once you recognize how the pandas move. Twisted fingers are the biggest issue causing you to take damage.

1. Stand with your back to an edge pillar
2. You will have one panda to your left that runs back and forth between you and and edge pillar 3 pillars to your left
3. You will have another to your right doing the same thing
4. The two columns in front of you should each have a panda approaching you at different times.
5. Move in a U shape assuming the edge pillar is the bottom of the U as the pandas come and go (straf!)

Just use your mouse to avoid the camera getting tangled up on your pillar and to keep an eye on the monks, and shouldn't be bad

Was consistently completing this without a panda hit

评论来自 1024466

Delthdiirn posted a very good info , i stood at exactly 18.78 69.27 and it workrd very well no damage at all thanks Delthdiirn

评论来自 ruvi12

You can stand on the outside of the ring on the east side, there are 2 pandas running there, if you stand in the exact middle, near the pot, you can avoid them both and stand there for 90 seconds without taking any damage.

评论来自 770391

It seems to me that in MOP they like to overwhelm you by sending in mobs that are beatable, but too numerous. Spawn rates are fast and you always seem to be fighting a whole gang. For example, in the jade forest I've been killed by the flies. This being said, they have taken it to the extreme with this STUPID quest. I have tried every trick listed in the comments on this site and none of them worked for me. The only way I have ever beat this quest is by going in, running around the guys and Knives and getting very very lucky. As I am now revererd by the Golden Lotus and am doing their dailies for the valor points, I don't even accept this quest anymore. 5 valor points is not worth the aggravation!

评论来自 Aquissya

I managed to get this on my rogue by attaching a +300,000 health food to a hot key and eating it every chance I had. It took a lot of food but I managed to get it without dying. Hope this helps. Also useful are healthstones, health potions, and (to some degree) bandages, especially if you have a class without very strong self-healing like a rogue.

评论来自 Eninia

Here is a Safespot! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h89FN7e9ct8

评论来自 bryanakperry

I could NOT find any clear instruction as to how to do this quest, but it really isn't that hard. Avoid the blades by walking in between them, but you also must avoid the pandas in the ring, because they will punch you into the blades. Sadistic bastards. If you can keep avoiding the pandas, you're golden.

评论来自 1039474

This worked perfectly

By Delthdiirn (1,567 – 2·11) on 2012/12/02 (Patch 5.1.0)
http://i49.tinypic.com/1kqqe.png

My position for this quest, no hits or damage taken whatsoever. It's in front of a line of blade spinners, so no warrior coming up to me vertically, and it's far enough forward for the warriors going around my sector of the perimeter to not be able to reach me.

If you can't see me or tell where my position is, look at my minimap, and I'm the tall thin blotch of red.

Basically I stood inside the spinner's range, the backed out until I was just barely far enough to not get hurt.

评论来自 Rj23

I'm not sure what the secret here is, but I HATE this quest. not easy for a low health toon. I would imagine a tank will think this is a cake walk.

评论来自 1094511

Easiest way? Find a place near edge of ring, watch those fat pandas for a little while, then just copy ONE of them. (stand there and run after one of them - when he turns you turn too and run before him until he stops. Repeat. Profit.)

评论来自 cujo832000

i did this quest by running a circle around the middle blade and attempting to avoid the fat pandas if you do get hit you dont get knocked far enough to get knocked out . stay moving but pause to avoid and this wont be too bad , and at least there is a timer bar on the bottom

评论来自 919386

Klaxxi Restorative Amber
grab a stack, go into the ring,
far enough to not get knocked out
use amber, they will knock your amber block
but you are inside healing; the counter is counting
as soon as you are out hit amber again
makes the daily survivable and less annoying

评论来自 chucmedic

oh man..i just discovered the easiest way to do this..
1. run right up to a blade post(the ones with a twirling blade
2.eat a few hits just to make sure that pandas are not touching you...
3. EAT FOOD...as i just accidently discovered,the blades dont hit you while you eat/drink,but the timer sure counts
4?
5. Profit

评论来自 sheng89

I actually stumbled upon a nifty trick for this!

Make your way into a gap between the rotating pillars and wait for a trainer to come towards you. If more than 1 is running toward you, choose the one that will reach you first. Face him, and just as he is near you, jump straight into him, he will bump you back into the gap and you wont get hit by the pillars! :)

I just did the quest for the first time today and stumbled upon this, the next time I get to do it, I'll see if it really does work or whether I just got lucky. But I did do this for about 60s of the quest, so I'm guessing it is a possible trick.

*edit: it definitely works! I've tested it a dozen more times even without the daily quest (just ran into the arena).

评论来自 1048275

1: Zoom right out.
2: Look Top-down
3: Go just inside the ring at a short end.
4: 2D game Atari style GO! (move between posts dodging patrolling trainers in right angley patterns, do it a little and you soon get the knack)

评论来自 lokuv

This was kinda like Pac Man, only a lot more crack, and the lone goal of trying not to get punched in the face.

评论来自 1119257

This isn't really that hard. There are a few ways to compete it. One is to stand between 2 pylons (not 4) and dodge the trainers. With this you only deal with 1-2 trainers at a time. Another is to pick an outer edge row, and watch the travel pattern of one of the trainers. Follow that trainer until they intersect with another and dodge. Patience Grasshopper.

评论来自 dnmynatt

Easy once you figure it out, so its like running a figure 8 to keep the other guys from bumping into you, if the bump into you it knocks the count down backwards.

评论来自 Stormcan

This quest can't bit my ass. Can't get it right.!

评论来自 1063237

So i Tried the achievment today ALOT and in the end got kicked against a pillar. I could stand there until i got the achievment.

This is the Pillar
This is the Position

There are two pandas running to this pillar and kick you against it. It is important to stand like the exact position or they will kick you more and more away.

Will upload a vid of it to youtube but my channel is german. Link will follow :)

评论来自 1125510

Fortunately, if the trainee smacks you AND you don't get hit into the blades you're fine. Their smacks don't count as damage, therefore making this achievement a lot easier.

评论来自 Vindir

If you're wondering why you're not receiving credit for this...

You will NOT see this tick off on your tracker until you turn in the quest! When you're done, don't get hit by anything else... not even the fire by the npcs or it will count against you.

评论来自 kabookiejoe

Just did this today, and obviously without the pillar trick it can be some what frustration, I would suggest marking these 4 npcs they are pretty much the only ones u need to dodge if you want to just hug the bottom.

These are the mobs i marked and dodge for the ready for raiding achievement

http://imageshack.us/a/img221/2651/6hh.png (4 npcs i marked and avoided)

Star and X are the ones u need to be most aware of.

评论来自 GoRozZo

A little harder than 生存之环：火焰, but not so much. You can easily complete it with a route of three points or like me on video - use full area with all ways. If you have any problems - watch this video and answer on your all questions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhEgQsF0r3o

评论来自 brudarek

Finally figured this out.

At the north end, you can stand between the mid and east (quest giver side) blade posts. When the guy comes running from the far side, just duck around, then move back. The 2 panda's running along the edge are running away when you need to move for the one running the length of the ring. A couple times I had to move to the gap between the mid and west post, but same deal on that side. There's no need to go crazy running through the middle, you can just stand in those 2 gaps and barely have to move.

GL if anyone still needs it and gets a chance before tues.

评论来自 Silvansaria

Just got this...

The easiest place to stand is around 18.58, 69 which is directly forward from the quest giver. It's a little forward of the 2 pillars and what you're going to do is - FACE THE CAMERA DOWN first of all.

Watch the 2 nps running towards you from the sides and the one running down the length of the training field towards you and move out of their way as needed when the path is clear. It might take a few tries but once you get the timing - it's cake.

评论来自 701981

Another way to survive this ordeal is simply to have the gear, and the maximum health level, to take some punishment without dying. Since you are in the Vale of Sorrows (previously known as the Vale of Eternal Blossoms), where this quest occurs, your PC must be Level 90, right? Quest greens might not be enough, but add two or three rare pieces and you might have enough armor to take the damage without enough accumulating to kill you.

评论来自 945326

The easiest way, by far, I've (mage and priest, both clothies) found to do this is to just go literally hug a post.

None of the NPC's running by will notice you at all, and it seems you're inside the radius of the blades on the post.

Once you get into position, you won't take any damage at all, and if you can't take the tiny amount of damage you get running into the circle, you probably need better gear to do this quest. (Like you're still running around in Wrath greens.)

Run in past a couple of posts, hug one (doesn't matter which one), wait for the timer to finish, and then run out.

(If you are still taking damage from the blades, move just a few pixels to your right or left. There is a "sweet spot" while hugging the post where you don't take damage from blades.)

评论来自 Yogilaw

Basically there is no need to run around like you have to for the flames ring quest. Simply get in there & stand right up against the central pillar. The blades will only deal a small amount of damage & the guys wont bump you.

It does pay to have a reasonable level of health for these quests.

评论来自 Pypode

I think it's a funny quest. It's fun to run!

评论来自 Daranoth

There is a safe spot: 18.76 69.28
Just stay there and nothing will hit you.

评论来自 LuciennaFenris

If you are going for the Achievement , I found it easiest to strafe back and forth near the edge where 2 pandas patrol the perimeter. It was super simple and you have a clear view of the columns in front of you to easily plan ahead. Hope this helps!

评论来自 RedXian37

Here is my strategy for running doing this achievement.

First of all, I abandoned the quest and accepted it again. I'm not sure if this is necessary, but I did this just in case there was an invisible de-buff that disappears when you take damage.

So in order to understand how this works it's important for me to explain path the runners take.

The arena is a basically a 4x4 grid with a spinning blades at each intersection (except the corners). There are 12 runners on the field. 4 are running North-South, 4 are running East-West and 4 are running back and forth on each corner. All runners stay to their own track and will sometime pause before turning around. This will put them out of sync with the pattern of the other runners.

Pick a side and stand in the middle between the stone pillar and the middle blade. At this position you only need to move from side to side to avoid the corner runners and 2 middle runners.

TIP: Choose the side where the corner runners do not arrive in the middle at the same time to ensure that you will always have a place to move. The same goes for the middle runners, but it's not as important.

You complete this part of the achievements when you hand in the quest, so make sure you don't take any unnecessary damage.

If you do take damage, abandon the quest and re-take it.

Good Luck.

Disclaimer: I did this as a druid in cat form, but I'm pretty sure I didn't need the speed boost to do this.

评论来自 Sarlis

Blind zone still works, here's a video that shows how and where to stand.

评论来自 Chaoticflame

The sweet spot still exists, my friend! (Post 5.4!)

It took me quite a bit of maneuvering, trying and re-trying. Looking at different tips, then finally YT videos.

But there is still a spot where you can stand without having to play Frogger or worry over getting beaten on by the Pandaren trainers!

It takes a few tries to find the spot, between avoiding trainers and not getting hit by the blades. I had to abandon the quest a few times but after a bit of trial and error, I found it still works!

By standing here: http://i.imgur.com/04UoqKW.jpg Sit there and remain unmolested for the full 60 seconds and then some if you want. Just time it with the trainers to get in position and secure at least this quest's half of the Ready for Raiding III achieve. Good luck, friends!

评论来自 volatar

This works for patch 5.4.8.

If you are trying for , or just want an easy way to complete the quest, the perfect place to stand for this is at 18.76, 69.27. If I was off by 0.01 on either coordinate, I would get hit by one of the pandas running around. I have been testing this for about 10 minutes now and still going while I type this without any damage taken or being knocked back. It is the middle sword pole along the south side of the arena near the quest giver.

I'm not sure if this makes any difference, but I'm playing a male night elf so if the different sizes of races comes into play, just make minor adjustments to the coordinates for your specific race.

评论来自 Yogilaw

I'm not sure what's happened with this quest since 6.0.2 went live, but in a nutshell DON'T DO IT!

Looks like the Blizz wizzies have forgotten to nerf the damage dealing in line with the new stats system, as far as I can tell it's the same as 5.4, but now we pack a fraction of health. You now don't stand a chance of making the 60 secs before dying unless you have a ton of healing buffs & can run round dodging the pandas (poor latency since the change makes this tricky for me). The idea of post hugging now doesn't work as the initial dps from blades burns you down in seconds.

Why don't they just leave stuff alone if it works?

评论来自 Dragions

I was able to do this within a couple of tries, standing on the pillars didn't work for me, but I found a spot that works with a bit of dodging.

I was at the end closest to the Quest giver. 18.73, 69.37

There are Pandaren that come from your right and left, so you need to alternate running while dodging the two that come down towards you, as they'll push you out.

评论来自 Ragahnsiir

Is this bugged? It seems that no matter what I do, whether to just try and stand still or run around, it never seem get anywhere. I tried abandoning and getting it again, but that doesn't seem to have fixed it, neither has quitting the game and going back on.

评论来自 zaymaa

I popped 法力风暴的复印机 to make myself as small as possible (as I'm Draenei) and stood at the sweet spot as noted between first pillar at 6:00 position and first set of spinning blades. Just had to stand there for 60 secs and 逃脱 out. Got it first try with this method.

评论来自 Boxofbeer

Survival Ring: Blades https://youtu.be/0tScJdaLUCo

评论来自 Bokki

As a female Draenei without anything to shrink myself I found standing at exactly 18.76, 69.28 worked for me. Mount up and hover just high enough so you can find it and then dismount.

I did this a few times thinking I must have messed up because I wasn't getting the achievement. You need to hand in to get it... ^_^'

评论来自 cautious

There seems to be an occasional glitch with this area where you continue taking damage long after you leave the ring. I was flying over the area with one character and happened to dip down into the ring to see whether you take damage while not on the quest. Sure enough, you do, but when I flew away I continued to take serious damage even after I was well away from the ring. The damage eventually stopped but I had to use Ignore Pain and a healing potion to survive that long.

I tried to repeat it later on with another character and after four or five attempts it happened again. They were not quite so lucky and ended up dying from the crazy blades despite being nowhere near the ring.

评论来自 Kai2kid

Did this just now on legion 7.3.5
You only need to watch the point where 2 pandas meet on the south. So you will only watch fewer panda rather than running randomly inside the arena. I successfully did this on 3rd try.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pcXW3iKmdM

评论来自 Jacevandever

Still bugged years later, chances are if you hit one of the rings, it will continue hitting you no matter how far away you get (you can even mount and fly half way across the map) and you will die eventually.

评论来自 Copperhelm

Stood inside a circle of blades as close to a blade pillar as possible. Took a bit of moving around and taking damage (as a pally I just kept healing myself) until, while watching my "what happened to me" tab, I found a sweet spot where the blades actually didn't hit me. At full health, I tested it for a bit and no damage. I had a friend team up with me, take the quest and then share it with me so I didn't have to move. Waited until the bar was full, mounted up on my bee and flew up without getting hit. Turned in the daily and it gave me the achievement as well. :D I tried several pillars and found a sweet spot on two, so I have a feeling there are more. As was mentioned, you don't get achieve credit until turn it, but since it is a daily, if you fail, you can try again.

评论来自 xsi777

I almost had this a couple times doing the method of using the south end of the arena and focusing on dodging just the 4 pandas.

On my winning try I had the idea to try and make myself smaller, so I used Magic Pet Mirror and turned myself into my Feline Familiar.

Seemed to make it easier :)

评论来自 vsimmons

I don't see it mentioned here, but @taurenbeak's comment on the meta achievement 准备突袭第三季 suggested using 不知所谓的装束 which worked like a charm! Just make sure you're inside the ring and see the progress bar before you pop it (like I didn't do the first time in my excitement) or you'll be waiting an hour before the item is usable again.

评论来自 Kables

I confirm that @taurenbeak's trick is still working in 10.2.6.

Simply accept the quest, enter the edge of the ring and once you see that the toolbar appears use 不知所谓的装束.

Note: There is a 1-1.5 second cast when using the item so make sure there are no enemies near when stepping into the ring.

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生存之环：刀刃

进入生存之环，并在不出圈的情况下坚持60秒。

	在生存之环中坚持60秒（1）

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这是我的士兵必须完成的挑战之一，目的是为了在和平时期让士兵保持强大而迅猛的战力。让我们看看你的表现如何。

在环中坚持60秒，保证自己不被推出圈外或被杀死。保持警惕。

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完成任务后，你将获得：

300 点金莲教声望

输入以下代码查看此任务是否已完成

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(30242))

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Mists of Pandaria - Faction Dailies Wowhead's Guide to the Golden Lotus and 5.4 Changes

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