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评论来自 tehdark

63.76 (around here.. (south of death's door))

1.) click on the nether drake egg
2.) use the Temporal Phase Modulator

u get either
Proto-Nether Drake
-or-
Adolescent Nether Drake

to get one of these u need to use the modulator twice.
Mature Nether Drake (arcane blast is really deadly, so watch out!)

评论来自 Boshi

Just one click for all three types.

评论来自 toptop

These mobs have incredible shadow resistance.

评论来自 uberchu

Use the Temporal Phase Modulator twice and you get:

Nihil the Banished (harmless don't worry when he spawns)
or
Mature Nether Drake

评论来自 3007

Here's a useful tip if you're stuck on one type of dragon - keep your enemy alive, and keep using the Phase Modulator until it finally turns into the type of dragon you need.

评论来自 11547

here's another trick i found helpful.

when you click on the egg, a nether whelp will spawn -- knock the whelp down to 1/2 or less health before using the modulator on him, makes the final dragon much easier to kill (they inherit the amount of health). This works well until you need to get a specific type, then sometimes the cooldown on the modulator doesn't have time to run out. I ended up standing there letting the dragon hit me until i could hit the modulator again.

评论来自 radeox

Ok this quest is pretty hard for me. These thingys are strong & got much frost resistance.

评论来自 12391

it spawned a lvl ?? elit dragon for me ^^ (in one of the eggs)

评论来自 10656

I simply was not able to complete this quest due to the incredible amount of frost resistance the dragonkin had, MobInfo informed me they had 40% frost resistance, therefore 40% of all my attacks were wasting my mana. I was unable to complete this quest due to the amount of time it would have taken me to use non spec'd spells to kill them. Hope they nerf them some time, 20% would be acceptable but nearly half is too much.

评论来自 gendry

As of April 12, 2007, players attempting this quest DO NOT lose Netherwing rep if they have completed the Shadowmoon Valley quest line that ultimately results in reaching neutral reputation level with the Netherwing.

I was hesitant to try this quest out of fear I would lose rep with no way to get it back. Happily, I suffered no rep loss.

评论来自 35857

These guys also have pretty good Fire Resistance, I think they are just one of those mobs that everybody hates!

评论来自 Valaran

I can barely hit them with Shadow, too.

评论来自 26336

This quest is a real pain for casters. I've done this quest with both a frost mage and a shadow priest. The resists on these things are through the roof, so be prepared to be sitting on your rear, drinking a lot, after wasting plenty of mana just to down one mob.

Then, of course, there's the problem with having to use the quest item over and over just to get the mob you want. In my case, it was a real problem getting the proto-nether drakes to spawn. You're burning through health and mana just to wait to see if the spawn you want will show up (gg with the quest item cooldown).

评论来自 33944

Here's a tip for hunters.

Set a Freezing Trap under the eggs before you open them - you can then use the Temporal Phase Modifier on the frozen creature before it thaws out and starts attacking.

评论来自 50932

If you dont get the dragon you need, u can use the Temporal Phase Modulator again on the dragon to switch to another.

Hope this will help you.

评论来自 56502

The type of drake you get when you transform it is random everytime.

If you need a specific type to come up and the wrong one shows up, you can simply start damaging it but keep it alive until your modulator's cooldown is done and transform it again.

评论来自 Sunsilk

If you're a shadow priest (or any kind of priest really) just pop out of shadowform and smite them down. They have no resistance to smite, and smite is actually quite strong against them.

Don't diss lolsmite priests.

评论来自 siggboy

This quests goes very nicely together with this one: http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10608 ("Crystal Clear")

评论来自 67037

Druids, here's a helpful tip!

After you summon a drake out of an egg, you can hibernate it and continue morphing it until you get the desired form.

评论来自 InfernoMan

any mages try using poly on the thing that spawns and then using the quest item to get the type you need? Might be worth a shot, I will post back here with the results tonight :)

Update: tried to poly the drake that spawns but since they are dragonkin, no joy. For a mage just dps them to half health pop mana sheild or ice barrier depending on spec, and use the phase modulator and hope for the best. I also noticed that when I was doing the quest, after I got all of my proto-netherdrake essence, the only thing that the nether whelp transmuted into was either a adolescent or mature whelp, and after I had all my adolescent, only needed one more mature and it transformed first time for me. Don't know if it was just luck or not, but same thing happened for my wife on the quest, so might be worth mentioning.

评论来自 Shiznet

Frost mages, go to bed, this is no quest for you and me. As a frost mage this was annoying. Not only did they resist almost every time I hit em, in addition theres a bunch of annoying mobs around that attacks you if you breathe. Another stupid quest from Blizzard, well done.

评论来自 cheesepizza

while doing the quest i used the item and... released a dragon called nihil the banished

well i just let him go again... btw he is lvl ?? and he won't attack you this is what he says:

"Muahahahaha! You fool! You've released me from my banishment in the interstices between space and time!"
"All of Draenor shall quick beneath my feet! I will destroy this world and reshape it in my image!"
"Where shall I begin? I cannot bother myself with a worm such as yourself. There is a world to be conquered!"
"No doubt the fools that banished me are long dead. I shall take wing survey my demesne. Pray to whatever gods you hold dear that we do not meet again." and then he flies off.

评论来自 Sugaranspice

Hunters, remember your freezing trap. I laid a trap down, then opened the egg, and the little boogers stayed frozen until I changed them into what I needed. I figured this out about halfway through and did not need nearly as many bandages on the second half :o)

评论来自 Liger

for dtuids it works with hibernate

评论来自 entropicdragon

If you have very good timing, you can get two kills per egg due to the slight lag between Modulator cast and transformation of the dragon.

Use the Modulator when the dragon is at very low health, and kill it immediately. If the timing is right, you will be able to loot the corpse (using auto-loot) before the dragon "modulates" into a new form, which will be alive and have a sliver of health (the corpse disappears when this happens). Then, immediately finish off the "new" dragon or it will gain about half its health back.

If your timing is only a bit off, you may not have time to loot the "first" dragon, but you will get exp for both kills.

评论来自 329746

This quest is a real pain in the ass. Believe me guys (and womans), this quest WILL burn up all your &*!@ing mana if ur a caster.
First, its a really @#$%ed up quest, you have to do tree tings 2 get 1 thing, first open a egg, use this phase modulator, and then kill the dragon that pops up. The dragon itself can take alot of damage.

So, really !@#$$%^&ed quest, belive me.

/chris

评论来自 Ahlto

Worst quest ever for a mage :(

评论来自 357088

The area is highly congested with monsters. Be careful if you have a pet running around or are a squishy (cloth wearer).

评论来自 357003

As a frost mage the key to completing this quest is using the water-elemental to tank the dragon, proceed to use CoC, and shatter combos as soon as FoF is up he seems to partially absorb most frostbolt but an ice lance/fire blast goes through if you do it right for full damage then immediately follow it with a frost nova and start another shatter combo, if he turns to u and starts casting mana burn use ice block to avoid it and you'll clear your threat at the same time and the dragon will go back to attacking your pet...don't forget to use Cold Snap while it's not on CD as well

评论来自 ThEReApEr

this Drakes are the worst for casters they have alot of resistance so u will do them verry slowly and with alot of drinks...

评论来自 146819

They don't seem to have much Fire resistance.

评论来自 233449

Besides the actual quest, the meaning behind the title of the quest is a very interesting one.

A paradox in itself, most people recognize this as "What came first, the chicken or the egg?".

The answer varies as there is currently no true answer, but rather various ones due to religious and scientific beliefs. If you choose the chicken, were did that chicken come from? If you choose the egg, a chicken would had to have laid it, so where did it come from?

评论来自 ziggy29

Several folks have mentioned freezing traps for hunters and while they did make it easier, I think I found something that worked better, at least for me -- as a level 67 BM hunter with a bear pet.

When I click on an egg and it is something I already had three of, once the drake was aggroed on my pet I'd set the bear to passive and use "mend pet" to keep its health up. The drake would keep attacking my bear, but my mending was working faster than the drake was hurting it so for the most part the bear remained near full health. I would sit back doing nothing but making sure my pet's health bar remained high, watching the melee from a distance -- much as a healer does in an instance watching the tank.

Then when the phase modulator cooldown expired, I'd use it again. If the next drake type was one I needed, I commanded the pet to attack and it was over quickly. If not, I make sure the "mend pet" is still active and then try again, waiting until the CD expires while keeping my pet healthy with "mend pet" as needed. Lather, rinse and repeat until you get the type of drake you still need. The last time I did this I had to hit the modulator four times until I got the final mature version. But using this technique my bear never got below about 2/3 health, and once the pet took the aggro it never let it go (even after turning passive as long as I never attacked) and I was untouched.

评论来自 fordahord

The hard part for a fire mage is that the whelps keep dying before they get transformed. Apparently, fire spells work just fine...

评论来自 759155

Counted as a Combat Rogue, level 65.
Died 7 times. Woo ._.

评论来自 Farzeer

Hunter's who has troubles doing this quest;

1. Put your pet on 'Assist' (You should use tenacity pet, tortoise is probably the best choice)
2. Click one of the eggs
3. Let your pet take the aggro and use the quest item.
4. If the transformed mob isn't the one you need, put your pet on 'Passive' and use scatter shot on the mob if it uses one of it's "special" abilities.
5. Use the quest item again when it's not on cooldown anymore.
6. Put your pet back on 'Assist' when you get the right quest mob.
7. Heal your pet if needed and repeat.

评论来自 913909

Great tip...it never occured to me

评论来自 cUnAzeroth

If you don't like what was "summoned" you can wait and use your 时间定相调节器 on what ever creature appears (multiple times if you wish). You just might even encounter 放逐者尼希尔 that you cannot battle but you can transform using your 时间定相调节器.

评论来自 1440987

What Came First, the Drake or the Egg? http://youtu.be/QnAe430YROY

评论来自 Boxofbeer

What Came First, the Drake or the Egg? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWgtCF5pKqc

评论来自 Daktar

This is an Alliance only quest.

评论来自 TegoZanduba

Not fun in a group. Warning, each of you can cast the modulator, and it'll switch the dragon from one type to another. If you can coordinate it -- great you'll get the drake you need more often, but if you can't you'll be shouting at your group mate for switching it from a dragon you want, to one you don't.

Also, looting is wonky. Only one person will be able to loot from the dragon. But! If you already have it maxed for that type, loot it anyway, and then, and only then, will a group mate be able to loot it too if they haven't finished 3 of that type.

评论来自 Bellexandria

This quest appears to be Alliance only, even though its flagged as both for factions on the sidebar.

评论来自 Kaerfemagsh

so, why dont we see black dragons in WoD?

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先有龙还是先有蛋？

收集3份始祖虚空幼龙的精华、3份健壮虚空幼龙的精华和3份成熟虚空幼龙的精华。

	始祖虚空幼龙的精华（3）
	健壮虚空幼龙的精华（3）
	成熟虚空幼龙的精华（3）
	时间定相调节器（已提供）（1）

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我正在研究各种龙类精华的药用价值，它们很可能是治愈多种疾病的灵药！

我想派人前往南边的晶歌山脉，取回一些龙类精华。

你愿意帮忙吗？对着那些从虚空龙蛋中孵化出的虚空幼龙使用时间定相调节器就行，将你收集到的各种龙类精华带回来给我。

不过，这个时间定相调节器只是个我改造出来的工具，其实我自己也不知道虚空幼龙能转化出什么样龙类精华。

奖励

您能选择下列奖励中的一个：

	菲兹特的猎龙护肩			敏捷精准手套
	飞龙束带			菲兹特的跳跃靴

您会收到：

	龙类治愈精华

收获

完成任务后，你将获得：

输入以下代码查看此任务是否已完成

/run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(10609))

先有龙还是先有蛋？

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