Weird that m+ 15 gives the best gear, not m+10 like it has always been on the first patch of an expansion.
I guess Blizzard gives a &*!@ about Players. 1 Item for 5 players. And Blizzard does not think that there will be only full Plate and Leather Groups? Cause ppl could not like that there is a Mail in your group while you use Plate and have to share that 1 Piece with a Class that has a different Armour?
So you want to be competitive in m+ now that only gear matters? Well go raiding unless you want to wait 3 months to get full 226 gear.
All the hyper-casual comments defending this change are making my brain hurt. HC raid is a joke. A complete joke. If you're raiding mythic already, you might not want to farm HC every week on all your alts just to gear them. That's one of the reasons m+ is so great. All this change does is forces Mythic raiders into the HC raid on their alts and will cause many of them to prematurely burn-out on the raid tier and cancel sub even earlier in the patch cycle until the next tier is released. Good change! /s
It's a shame that Blizzard considers "PvE" as one single bucket containing Raids (N, H, M), Dungeons (N, H, M, M+) and (World-/Daily-)Quests.With this system PvE Players are forced to do Mythic Raids to get gear for high M+.Not a good system imo
Holy crap I am sick of this. I love m+ but you just keep treating it like it's not important. I am so done with this game. Utter garbage tier design.
Horrible decision from Blizzard, i strongly hope they revert this back to the way it is in BFA.Imagine thinking that pushing a key to +15 is easier then doing a HC raid, what a joke the people that can push a key to +15 on release of mythic raid should easily be rewarded more then heroic item level.I agree that it shouldn't surpass Mythic but heroic? What a %^&*ty move to discourage M+ by blizzard and force everyone to do HC for that 2h every week and be bored the rest since there is no upgrade to farm/chase after.
Reading comments of people who support this is like reading comments defending major political candidates who make awful policies that negatively affect large groups but not that commenters one small town. This is a change that hurts a lot of people just to make heroic loot have meaning for like... 3 more weeks? Once again, this means that the groups who only want to focus m+ are just arbitrarily lacking gear. Hopefully this is just a 2 week thing to minimize world first shenanigans
And are people who are "heroic raiders" actually offended at mythic + spammers being able to match their gear? If you are, stop, get help. That's unnecessary vitriolic behavior.
Removed
This is a catastrophic decision if it isn't meant as a short term stop gap. Blizzard needs to comment on it today. It is game ending for many players.
Is the dressing room not working for anyone else?
Yeah, id prob quit if M+ is removed tbh lol
I can't possibly see a justification for this. M+ will already be hard enough to get gear out of with only a single drop per run, but now it will be next to meaningless.