Sylvanas allowed Voss to relocate Zeiling's family, he himself asked for this "gift". Yet he betrayed her. Baine always betrays his warchief when it comes about proudmoore family. Even though most of the horde leaders are not happy with sylvanas' action, though none protested her, and none will in the future. Bork as much as you can sylvanas haters.
Well, it's PTR, so I assume the mustache for her to twirl will be added before it goes live.
Definitive: THE WARBRINGERS MUST DIE
Anyone else notice Ji Firepaw in the background? They finally added him to this! I wonder if he has any click 4 text like the other leaders.
Either she is under N'zoth control or just becoming more of a tyrant ruler :P
If the Horde was sold as the "evil" faction, this all wouldn't be a big deal, but it wasn't. The Horde in a lot of (dare I say, most) players' hearts is the Warcraft 3/Thrall era Horde. The factions have to keep evolving but the Horde of today isn't just unrecognizable compared to the Horde of even a couple years ago, it's antithetical to the Thrall Horde.No matter how you feel about Sylvanas, pulling the rug out from under players' feet like that is objectively bad and Blizzard has enough sense to know that it can only be done temporarily to create drama.
I love how the vicious, unprovoked, and downright nasty actions of one faction are swept under the rug to ensure that the group of 'monsters' are always the bad guys. Surprise surprise, sometimes the 'holier-than-thou' faction aren't as peachy clean as they'd like.This is a war for SURVIVAL stemming from Genn's unprovoked attack on new Warchief Sylvanas in Stormheim. The Alliance and Horde were uneasy allies in a truce/ceasefire since Garrosh was dethroned, and absolutely ZERO effort was made to reconcile old grudges, communicate issues, or apologize for mistakes/bad actions by both sides, but more notably by the Alliance, since their failures of utilizing basic diplomacy were used as justification.The War of Thorns and Burning of Teldrassil are not and never have been a genocide, if only for the simple reason that they were political/strategic targets first and foremost, and plenty of night elves both escaped and survived. Otherwise, would the Siege of Orgrimmar be called a genocide? The Battle of Dazar'alor? Any of the numerous Alliance attacks on significant Horde populations such as various tauren tribes/villages, goblin refugees, blood elf civilian mages, or practically any troll tribe? Or is it only a genocide when you personally feel the victim's side didn't deserve it?Sylvanas is upholding her duty as the Warchief and fighting this war to win it, not because it's fun. She has sacrificed much personally for the good of the Horde, but again this is glossed over to focus on the bad things she does. Baine and Zelling, instead of voicing their dissent or arguing for a different strategy, went behind Sylvanas's back to do what they felt best without consulting anyone, even killing fellow members of the Horde to do so. Zelling, as Forsaken, is beholden to the laws of the Forsaken- which are set by and lead by Sylvanas, his direct leader. Thus, she decides his punishment. Baine, as both a tauren of Thunder Bluff as well as High Chieftain of all of Kalimdor's tauren, is in a tricky place politically. Thus, he is merely imprisoned for his actions of treasonous sabotage.You want me to side against Sylvanas? Have her do something that acts against the interests of the Horde as a whole. Have her start raising fallen Horde as actual undead (mindless skeletons during a battle don't count). Have her be more concerned with her own safety and well being to the detriment of everyone else in the Horde. Have her try to kill/hamper the Horde player in some way that makes it clear she doesn't want our loyalty. Have her convert the living spaces of other Horde races in poison factories or something, rather than just Blighting land the Forsaken will presumably take for themselves anyway (Tirisfal, Darkshore). Just... anything that isn't the calling card of a ruthless and effective leader.
Another Expansion about Horde, Horde and Horde...Alliance's victories are really shallow if you think about how poor their story has been developed, and how so few characters are getting any depht.And yet, for some reason, people still refuses to accept that this game is totally Horde biased. From Gameplay to Lore everything is Horde, Horde and Horde...
It's a shame the Mag'har Orcs are the only non traitorous members of the Horde (not counting, presumably, the Forsaken).
Glad they added Ji! Poor guy never gets any attention these days, which makes me a sad Panda.