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评论来自
droodhaxzomg
EDIT: So almost immediately after the patch came out I quit for 9 months, and now this post is very outdated. Wowhead has a guide (viewable
here
) that far outclasses my comment. If you are looking for relevant information regarding the legendary questline, you will find it there.
If you did the 5.0 questline with Wrathion, prepare to see something familiar.
First, Wrathion asks you to talk to him...
Upstairs
. Presumably after yammering on about the fate of Azeroth blah blah, he directs you to the first real meat of the questline: killing things!
Here, you have to reach Exalted with The Black (artist currently known as) Prince for
I Need A Champion
(tenuous Footloose jokes optional) by killing hostile mobs on the Isle of Thunder.
Alongside this quest, you get
Secrets of the First Empire
wherein you have to collect
Secrets of the Empire
in the Throne of Thunder.
Are we good? Good. Now comes the next part, which depends on how the 5.2 content is gated. Eventually, an area called the Lightning Forge will be unlocked for a quest called
The Lightning Forge
. Wrathion tells you to meet him at this area and suggests being ready for a fight, so my guess is stuff goes down (this isn't available just yet!) and you have to fight and kill some guys. You've handled the last 14 raid tiers, I'm sure this is no threat.
The rest... isn't really mapped out yet. The quests have been datamined and are in Wowhead, but it's just guesswork as to what goes where. There is a quest to kill guys and collect
Titan Runestones
for the quest
Echoes of the Titans
, which
reminds
me of another
legendary
quest
altogether. (They use the same icon!)
Additionally, you have to kill the Thunder King (call him Bill) for
Heart of the Thunder King
. That part is speculation, but perhaps you can see why I think that.
Spirit of the Storm Lord
and
A Reckoning
aren't developed yet, so who knows where they go?
The Crown of Heaven
is the last quest, which rewards a
helm enchant
legendary META GEM
which benefits your class less than any other class, and you should probably ask Blizzard for some buffs
. Again, I could be wrong, but then I'd be out a shoe and up a meal.
The long and short of this is that you should probably start farming Trillium (or Ghost Iron for the transmute) now, because when the patch hits? Oh boy.
This post will be updated as information is added.
评论来自
Aurecante
Do they drop in LFR too ?
评论来自
Anprionsa
These are not dropped by the boss. They are just like the sigils in that they are given when you kill the boss immediately. This is confirmed after killing Magaera and the chest comes out so not everyone can loot at once. I did not loot it, and received it.
And yes, these do drop in LFR.
评论来自
dasbaum
It says "party loot" in the quick facts, but not every player automatically gets one.
Each player has a "chance" to get one, but not guaranteed.
评论来自
909363
After 4 bosses down on 25m, I've managed to get 2.
So I would be assuming somewhere around 40-60% droprate or then i'm just being unlucky/lucky on drops.
评论来自
1106027
@droodhaxzomg
I seriously just made an account with wowhead so I could compliment you on your post, well done.
评论来自
Sharting
I have downed a total of 8 bosses on 10m and havent gotten 1, I did get 1 from LFR. Which begs the question since they are not considered "loot" , could you run LFR over and over to try and get your 20 needed.
评论来自
Netherspark
I'd like to know if they have the same droprate on LFR as normal.
评论来自
Destruktio
Dropped 1 from 1st boss of LFR.
4/12 down in normal and no drops.
评论来自
voskopoula
After killing 5 bosses x 2 raid weeks = 10 kills (and still 2 raid days for me to progress ) i have received "NONE"!
10 kills at 25man normal and not a single "Secrets of the empire" was received :/
This totally sucks
评论来自
1082367
I am hoping and praying to God these things have a higher drop rate than the Sigils did. I did all of the LFR for about 6 weeks in a row before I had all the Sigils. I am hoping these have a higher drop rate.
评论来自
78194
Are these limited to 1 drop per boss per week like the
Shadow Pan Assault
rep is (I.E. Shadow-Pan Assault rep only awards once per boss no matter the mode)?
E.G. If I kill
Jin'rokh the breaker
on LFR, then I can't get a Secret from him on normal/heroic?
Since I've only done one week, I don't have enough data to come to a reasonable conclusion myself, but my entire 25man raid that did LFR on Tuesday last week did not get any secrets from the first 3 bosses on Normal Mode.
评论来自
madusmacus
NONE for me in 2 weeks of LFR (6 bosses so far) :¬(
评论来自
perculia
Clarifications on this droprate from Daxxarri:
Everyone has a personal chance to receive a
帝国秘史
drop on Normal/Heroic; the quest loot functions the same way that the Raid Finder version of the Legendary quest did prior to 5.2.
We wanted to have a single shared chance per boss per week because we'd prefer to avoid making raiders who are killing bosses on non-Raid Finder runs to feel obligated to do Raid Finder specifically for Legendary quest drops. If those players want to do it for Valor or off-spec gear, that’s great, but doing Raid Finder shouldn’t be necessary for optimal Legendary acquisition.
Source:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/8178768002#15
评论来自
Shredan
I have a question on these..hopefully someone might know the answer. I have ran Throne Of Thunder on the 2 parts of LFR now live. My 1st week...I got 2 of them,,,2nd week,,I got 1. I just ran both parts of the Lfr this week and didn't get none. Is it possible to run the Lfr again and get or more? Even though I have ran Lfr & looted the bosses already? Any help will be highly appreciated.
Thanks!
评论来自
Devlan
After reading these comments it seems that I have simply abysmal luck. A total of 16 boss kills since release (not counting duplicates) have netted me 1 Secret. If I keep obtaining secrets at this rate it'll take me 260 boss kills to obtain all 20, assuming I'd be able to completely clear ToT each week (which I can't) it'd take me 22 weeks to complete this first step.
评论来自
837727
The dropchance of these is totally rng.
On my hunter i have a total of 52 boss kills lfr+normal+heroic and i got 17 while a priest with the same amount of kills only got 4.
Meanwhile my monk that has only killed lfr bosses+2 normal got 4.
评论来自
Furydeath
That less then 1% seems about right with my 0 of 20 so far them gems better be worth it.
评论来自
Mantrhax
Blizzard working hard to make a no frustration game .. not ! My mistake
评论来自
petre
As noted, you only have a chance at one of these the first time you kill a boss that week on any difficulty. I've made sure to cover every boss on LFR if I didn't down it on normal. So far I've killed 3+6+6+9+9+9 bosses (have to do 3rd wing of LFR this week yet) giving me 42 boss kills. I have 12 secrets, for a personal drop rate of some 28.6%. Comparing myself to similar guildies I seem to be a little ahead on luck, best guess is an actual drop rate around 20-25%. On an average full clear week, you'd expect 2-4.
评论来自
arbhatt
For what it's worth, I got my 20th after my 65th total boss kill (combining both LFR and regular bosses), which works out to about a 30% drop rate. Would be interesting for others to post their results (you can look at your Armory profile to count the total number of kills) and maybe we can formulate some kind of rough drop rate.
评论来自
829684
issue that i have with this quest is if you were late to get 20 before nalak stage opened you will always be behind on everything. for example you might still be on secrets while someone already has their gem and is collecting runestones , by the time 5.3 comes some of the people will already complete runestones and the heart of the thunder king and will be on 600ilvl cloak quest , while you will most likely still be somewhere around the midle of the runestone quest. basically depending on how your luck was on the first quest you're gonna get meta gem / 600ilvl cloak perhaps even 3 weeks after some people. it's just not fair.
评论来自
1096108
it is possible to get more than u need. i was on second part of lfr got my 20th from snake boss and got a 21st from ji-kun so. might have to destroy one. if u got the luck i had.
评论来自
Bahthalend
Apparently blizzard logic is the more obnoxious rng is involved the more epic something is, Now that the entire raid is open in lfr i seem to somehow be seeing less drop than in the first weeks.
评论来自
arbhatt
For any who are wondering, it is okay to delete any extras that you have after completing the quest. I had one extra
帝国秘史
in my bags after completing the quest, so I opened a ticket and a GM told me it was safe to delete. Good luck on your march to 20, the reward is well worth it!
评论来自
1102161
If you have completed all your lfr for the week before you started the quest can you go back in and have a chance of getting them even if you downed that boss?
评论来自
longslowgoodbye
2 lockouts LFR, WITH mogu runes on character = NO DROP.
2 other LFR lockouts, WITHOUT mogu runes = 6 DROPS.
From my experience, dont do it with mogu runes on character...
评论来自
Gnarsty
Drop rate has possibly increased in 5.3 along with the other buffs to the quest chain. I ran the full 12 LFR bosses and received 6 which may just be luck as this is the first day of 5.3 content. Unfortunately not lucky enough as I needed 7, but can I really complain? EDIT - After further inspection, RNG was on my side, sorry guys!
评论来自
Zurion
LFR 24 kills in 2 weeks. 12/week. 2 secrets drop. 1/week. 20 weeks to do this quest? Hey blizz? Some of us don't like being in guilds. Way to much stupid talk. To many beggars. Help us out here!
You can take your rng and stick it in your...
评论来自
Soreleyn
I have completed every wing of LFR Throne of Thunder this week while I was on the pvp part of the legendary. Does anyone know if I can do it again and have a chance of obtaining Secrets of the Empire?
评论来自
pbear
Ok, I think there must be a bug or something. I started this quest last week and killed 9 bosses without any drops and I was the only one on the quest according to the log. Tonight I killed 6 more bosses and no drops and again I was the only one on the quest - WTF. Blizz is insane.
评论来自
ceasure
On my shaman I got 4 from my first week and then another 4 the second week and on my last week I got one off every single boss. Is it a 100% now or am I just lucky? I got them relatively fast on my mage (3 weeks) so I probably am just lucky. Anyone experiencing the same?
评论来自
regginbackwards
I've had this quest for 5 resets now (cleared 12/12 normal with several heroics every week) and I've only got 3 so far, and the third one was from lei shen this week.
Gotta love RNG, never getting my metagem.
评论来自
Lulleh
For those who want to keep one for what ever reason, de-stacking these work (turning in the Quest with 12 in one stack and 1 in a separate stack.) Turning this in with all 13+ in the same stack will remove the whole stack. (Confirmed by 2 guild mates.)
For those who has to know why I did this; I'm just a collector, legendaries being among the items of interest. (Got 15 on my Warrior).
评论来自
renancza
Does anybody know if Mogu Rune of Fate bonus rolls lets you win one of these?
评论来自
Turpentine
I did this quest on two separate characters simultaneously and entirely in LFR. I am always interested in drop rates outside of people saying, "I dropped for me the first time!" So I made an effort to record how many secrets I received per week.
Character 1:
Week 1 - 3/12 (3 Secrets total)
Week 2 - 7/12 (10 Secrets total)
Week 3 - 4/12 (14 Secrets total)
Week 4 - 6/10 (20 Secrets total)
Character 2:
Week 1 - 3/9 (3 Secrets total)
Week 2 - 7/12 (10 Secrets total)
Week 3 - 3/12 (13 Secrets total)
Week 4 - 4/12 (17 Secrets total)
Week 5 - 3/10 (20 Secrets total)
At first I thought that the drop rate would be about equal, 3 then 7 then 3 and then 7; to be done in about 4 weeks. Character 2 didn't fare so well and spent almost an entire LFR lockout on the last 3 secrets. Needless to say, character 1 is ahead on the Titan Runestone quest by now. >.<
Edit: I have now posted a detailed drop of
泰坦符文石
for the follow up quest. Simply click
泰坦符文石
and look for my comment.
评论来自
1124540
I found out that this quest is Loot Over Time, so if you kill 2 bosses every day, you get more chance of loot and lei shen is 100% drop.
I got 6 of them this week, doing 1 wing a day. (or they increased drop chance rate)
::: If you find out something, plz let me know :::
评论来自
Arakara
First week with the Legendary Quest, after 12 bosses, I got 7 secrets. So, to those who are all "Blizzard, Y U NO INCREASE THE DROP RATE?", I say "it's a random drop-rate guys, you just didn't had any luck yet".
评论来自
Nillebror
While i que up now after 3 AM and wednesday reset on EU. I urgently want to get secrets to finish the quest. However, do they reset chance to get secrets at 3 AM or 9 AM? Because 9 AM normal raid locks reset. Can somebody confirm this?
评论来自
1054562
Yes, the drop chance is shared between regular and LFR boss...i.e. if you kill the boss in regular mode, you cannot get a secret off the same boss in LFR.
However, if you extend a lockout from a previous week, the bosses you killed in that previous week's lockout will not exclude the drop for secrets in LFR off those same bosses.
评论来自
thegryffen
I have a question that some may deem as dumb... You never know till you ask, I guess...
I have not been able to get into the Reg or Heroic runs. Due to my time that I have to play, I am stuck in LFR... If 1 of these secrets drop off of lets say Tortos... Then the other 2 bosses do not drop one... Can I rerun that LFR and hope that one drops off the other bosses that did not drop previously?
Like I said, I do not know and so I am asking. Actual answers and input graciously welcomed!
Thank you!
评论来自
1135943
I have a question. I cleared LFR throne of thunder last night. I am about to get my quest legendary quest chain to a point where i can start collecting Secrets of the Empire. Since the quest is now active can i go through LFR again and have a chance for these to drop? I was told that this is possible since that instance may recongiize the run for the quest as a fresh run. I know loot wont drop but i am just wondering if i can receive Secrets of the Empire.
评论来自
ED209
Secrets of the Empire, along with
Titan Runestones
, will be able to drop from the first 8 bosses of the
Siege of Orgrimmar
for those that are currently on the quest when the patch goes live. For those wondering, it's from
Immerseus
up to and including the
General Nazgrim
.
评论来自
169025
I planned my black prince quests out, and here is my experience.
I was on my 3rd week of Test of Valor, did all the other raids and dungeons, except ToT for my valor points, but I was still a bit short on valor points to complete the quest.
I read that Lei Shen has a 100% chance of dropping the Secrets of the Empire, so I went to do Pinnacle of Storms part of ToT to gather the last of my valors.
After that was completed, I went and did the the battlegrounds quests etc, up until Secrets of the Empire.
Went in last wing of ToT again, nothing dropped, not even Lei Shen.
I guess if you're planning out your black prince quests like me, do not kill any bosses in ToT on the week that you think you will receive the Secrets of the Empire quest to maximize your chances.
评论来自
gr33nzo
I've been keeping track of drops on my alt,ended up taking 5 weeks in total:
Week 1: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 6
Week 2: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 3
Week 3: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 5
Week 4: bosses killed: 12, Secrets of the Empire: 5
Week 5: bosses killed: 2, Secrets of the Empire: 1
评论来自
steamer
Good luck stacking it to 999
评论来自
711516
Just to inform you guys. No you cannot collect these items by defeating a boss you had already done that week, if done before picking up the quest. I have tried this and hasn't worked on lfr ToT 4th leg.
Bit of a pain for me, so please if you are nearing this quest for the week try to save your lfr ToT runs for after doing the previous quest.
评论来自
forkinater
I really felt I would be done this week with the amount of bosses I killed and previous drop rates.
Week 1 : 7 shards looted from 12 lfr tot bosses killed (patch 5.3)
Week 2 : 7 shards looted from 12 lfr tor bosses killed (patch 5.3)
Week 3 : only 2 shards looted from 15 bosses! (Patch 5.4) 12 lfr tot bosses and 3 normal siege of org bosses killed. And one of them was guaranteed lei shen!
How disappointing. They must have nerfed the drop rate post 5.4
Update: got one more from sha of pride. So 3 total from 16 bosses.
Update 2 : I got another from general nazgrim. But got up to siegecrafter blackfuse. That makes 4 from 22 bosses. 12 tot bosses and 10 normal siege of org bosses killed.
评论来自
innervoid
Just checked and it drops from siege of orgrimmar new raid too
评论来自
Meinosroth
It seems as of 5.4 they have included the Siege of Orgrimmar bosses to drop secrets aswell...however it appears they have lowered the chance of secrets dropping significantly aswell...damn blizz thats cold.
评论来自
Ironicbay
It drops from the SoO's bosses, and either I'm lucky, or the droprate is significantly higher than on ToT's bosses. I got 8 of them killing 24 ToT bosses (1 for each part), and I got 6 out of 8 SoO bosses...
I guess Blizzard decided to speed up the quests for people who haven't achieved it yet.
Edit : only drops from the 8 first SoO's bosses.
评论来自
1065597
I dont know if this is a confirmation or just bad luck but here goes...
I got this quest today. I had already completed the ToT based LFR runs. I just completed them for a second time in hopes they would have some ot the secrets drop. Not a single secret dropped for these. It appears that these secrets are tied to wether or not you have looted the boss for the week already or not. so you cannot just farm them by repeating LFR runs.
评论来自
NUDS
The drop rate seems to be the same post-5.4, with the addition that they also drop from the first two wings in SoO which is another 8 chances at looting it per week.
So far my drops are:
Week 1: 0 from 11 bosses, + Lei Shen 100% drop.
Week 2: 1 from 15 bosses, + Lei Shen 100% drop + Sha of Pride 100% drop.
Week 3: 3 from 19 bosses, + Lei Shen 100% drop + Sha of Pride 100% drop.
Week 4: 5 from 19 bosses, + Lei Shen 100% drop + Sha of Pride 100% drop.
Week 5: 2 from 12 bosses, + Lei Shen 100% drop.
I started farming for secrets the week before 5.4 hit. The first week was a full LFR ToT clear, the second week was LFR ToT + first wing of SoO and the third week was LFR ToT + the first and second wing of SoO.
One thing I've noticed was that so far the last boss of each wing in SoO has given me a secret (Sha of Pride and General Nazgrim). Need more data to confirm if they are also guaranteed to drop one like Lei Shen.
Edit: The
Sha of Pride
from the first wing of SoO does indeed have a
100% drop rate for Secrets.
评论来自
Saintus
Lil question, as i raid with my guild i already did the SoO bosses this week on normal on wednesday, and cleared all on flex, i just received the quest to go get the shards.
If i go too lfr SoO the first 2 wings this week, can i still get shards there or is the lock for one kill per week across all difficulties.
I suppose i cant get them.
then another question does bonus rolling work ? since you can buy the mogu runes of fate on timless isle, you could get double roll on all bosses in tot ?
and is there a diffrent drop rater for say normal tot bosses or hc tot the same bosses ?
Thanks in advance
评论来自
419137
Confirmed by a GM right now (Patch 5.4)
You'll have a chance to loot those just 1 time a week from each boss regardeless if you are doing LFR, FLEX, Normal or HC so you can farm those with LFR or in Normal if you're a raider.(##RESPBREAK##)524##DELIM##thaia##DELIM##
评论来自
beedrill
Either I'm extremely lucky, or this was gimped recently. I have a 35%~ rate after week 1. I'll edit this after week 2.
You can NOT loot these from bosses you've already looted, so if you plan to start this quest; Be sure to pick up the quest before you hit up raids.
评论来自
Kronox001
First week: 9 Secrets
Second week: 7 Secrets
Third week: looted 2 from last stand and 0 from depths
I guess my luck ran out trying to get the last secrets from bosses that dont drop runestones
评论来自
Grieel
i have been on this quest for well over a month now...only half way there. I wish Blizz would buff the drop rate or something
评论来自
d495621
i just started this quest today myself and got lucky that in the first 8 bosses in tot i got 2 secrets which means i am guarenteed to get 3 anyway i was wondering since i have already run the first 4 bosses for SoO this week in lfr before i got the quest if i go and run them again do i have a chance to get any secrets from them or not?
评论来自
padmanek
Drop rate is definitely not bugged. A total of 6 dropped for me this (first) week from 20 bosses ( 12 ToT, 8 SoO).
评论来自
d495621
curse my luck heres how i got my secrects
week 1: 8
week 2: 3
week 3: 8
if u add those up i have 19 secrects and i have run all my bosses this week meaning i have to wait another stupid week to get 1 more secrect >_>
评论来自
redtimmy
I don't suppose the drop rate has decreased, has it?
Two weeks ago: Throne of Thunder: 8
One week ago: Throne of Thunder: 9
This week: Throne of Thunder: ZERO.
Should I be cursing my bad luck or has the drop rate dropped?
I'm off to do Siege of Orgrimmar and hope for the best...
评论来自
d495621
so can somon anwser me this if i have run lfr for the week and have done all the bosses for secrects in lfr if i do flex raids am i able to get the last secrect i need from those flex or because i have run the lfr version of those bosses i cannot receive secrects it would be great to get an answer
评论来自
Casualw0w
Can you use an extra roll for these?
评论来自
1193417
Can you get these off Garrosh?
评论来自
1207944
Sha drops
评论来自
Solutions
I'd like to confirm the
帝国秘史
item drops 100% from:
-Vale of Eternal Sorrows -
傲之煞
.
-Throne of Thunder -
雷神
.
Week 1 - 2x
帝国秘史
Havent been seriously doing this quest till two weeks ago. (10%)
Week 2 - 8x
帝国秘史
That's alot! Maby i've been off this quest for like 2-3 months. (40%)
Week 3 - 4x
帝国秘史
Thought i was goin 20 =( (20%)
Week 4 - 6x
帝国秘史
Finally! (30%)
Just finished the quest had to do follow up quest. Pierced a lance trough Nalak and now got my Legendary Meta Gem! =D
They drop from all bosses in
Throne of Thunder
and the wings from
Siege of Orgrimmar
(
Vale of Eternal Sorrows
and
Gate of Retribution
).
(Only 1x
帝国秘史
per boss doesn't matter what difficulty.)
评论来自
Gandora1
Just completed
第一帝国的秘密
and thought I would share my results. (5.4.2)
All done on LFR difficulty...
Week 1
:
帝国秘史
x5 and FOUR epic drops, across all ToT bosses and the first SIX SoO bosses.
Week 2
:
帝国秘史
x5 and SIX epic drops, across all ToT bosses and the first SIX SoO bosses.
Week 3
:
帝国秘史
x9 and THREE epic drops, across all ToT bosses and the first SIX SoO bosses.
Week 4
:
帝国秘史
x1 and TWO epic drops, across the first TWO wings of ToT.
Which has me set up nicely for
泰坦回音
as the
泰坦符文石
s only drop off the last 6 bosses of ToT and the first 8 of SoO.
Hope this gives you guys an idea of what to expect!
评论来自
1210884
So people say you can't loot them from bosses you already looted.
You can loot these without looting a boss though.. :)
I was locked out of Primordius's battleground for not being there in time.
When he died I wasn't able to loot him but I still got a
Secret
评论来自
qrjan89
if i got this correcty, can you still get the token even if you have done the same raid in that week? for instance, i can "farm" the first two parts in SoO for token?
评论来自
805932
just cleared all of TOT and SoO LFR so 20 lootable bosses and i got 3 O_O
take the 2 guaranteed away that's 1 drop from 18 bosses.. even back in march last year the rate wasn't so poor.
just so you guys know you can still be unlucky! (un)happy days!
评论来自
Zoyeng
For those who, like me, don't enjoy raiding and don't necessarily know, you can queue for the following Raids in LFR (full runs--go ahead and re-queue if you get in mid-raid and do whatever bosses you have missed)
once each week
to get Secrets. (I checked the WOWHEAD stats and am listing number of bosses that they show drop Secrets, next to each. This is not from personal experience.)
Throne of Thunder
raids:
Last Stand of the Zandalari
(three bosses)
Forgotten Depths
(three bosses)
Halls of Flesh-shaping
(three bosses)
Pinnacle of Storms
(three bosses*)
Siege of Orgrimmar
raids:
Vale of Eternal Sorrows
(one boss or maybe two*)
Gates of Retribution
(three bosses)
* I have read or been told that Lei Shen (Pinnacle of Storms) is a guaranteed Secrets drop, and I see in another comment that someone said that Sha of Pride (Vale of Eternal Sorrows) is as well. I don't see the numbers bearing that out in WOWhead stats, but if it's true, it might be worth it to run at least those two raids, each week.
I could not find this information-- lists of what you actually queue for-- anywhere, so I looked it up and thought maybe someone else would benefit from it. (Just saying that these drop from "Throne of Thunder" and "Siege of Orgrimmar" bosses doesn't mean anything to non-raiders. You can't queue for either of those titles-- just the subtitles beneath them-- in LFR.)
Hope this is helpful to someone.
评论来自
elektroneg
Also have a 100% chance to drop from Ra-den
评论来自
740271
Here are my results on secrets of the empire:
Secrets of the empire
Week 1: 6
Week 2: 5
Week 3: 6
Week 4: Started today
评论来自
Lovestorybro
Just as a note for the repeatable bosses (LFR and Flex). If you complete a wing of flex or LFR earlier in the week and then pick up the quest, you CANNOT get a secret from running those bosses again. Tested this with LFR wing 1 of SoO.
There was also clarification on the wow forums recently on the 100% drop rate from Lei-Shen and/or Sha of Pride. Your 100% drop rate only applies to one of them. Yeah. So you are guaranteed 1 per week, not 1 from each boss.
评论来自
Sardeor
So I had a good experience with these my first week I got 6 then my second week I managed to get 12 and 2 on my last week to finish it up so RNG was kind to me this time.
评论来自
245222
I received this quest late in the week after i had completed wings 1, 2, 3 in Flex. I received a Secrets of the Empire from the Sha of Pride even though i had already downed him. I did not receive another from any other of the 7 first bosses in SoO.
评论来自
Marbash
I had quite some luck getting these last week. Actually got ten of them in one week in LFRs. This week, 3 LFRs now, thus far I've gotten 1. Yey!
评论来自
rapscallion
As a few have said, the droprate has been increased. I got 9 the first week, 9 the second week. If you go into the 3rd week just short, remember the first 6 bosses in ToT DO NOT DROP TITAN RUNESTONES. Do these first, and if you get what you need, you'll still have all 14 bosses that drop the Runestones available to you.
评论来自
616859
Just got the quest for Secrets... Hadnt run any ToT at all this week... Killed 5 ToT bosses today - Not one Secrets drop.. Am I doing something wrong? Am I supposed to click on the boss' corpse to get one of these Secrets?
Kind of alarmed at going 0 for 5 especially after all of these posts that say the droprate has been increased.
评论来自
toppjubei
Can confirm these drop from the first 8 bosses in Siege of Orgrimmar.
评论来自
967644
I wonder if the drop rate decreases with the number of alts doing this quest. They dropped pretty regularly on my main, but now on my third alt the drop rate is horrendous. I've gotten 6 in 3 weeks.
评论来自
142071
Question: I only found out I could run the boss as many times as it took to drop by monday - and by now I have a handful of these. Is there a way to find out what bosses actually dropped the tablets?
评论来自
Brophecy
You will only receive ONE of these from each boss, each week. It does not matter which difficulty you are on! Since you can do the entire Throne of Thunder run, and the first 2 wings of Siege of Orgrimmar, you have 20 chances each week for a drop of this item. :)
评论来自
ramunekit
Here's an update on a possible drop. I am currently completing the quest as we speak:
Week 1: 6 secrets of the empire
Week 2: 8 secrets of the empire
Week 3: (Next week) unknown, but only 6 more are needed to finish.
~! Hope this helps a bit.
评论来自
razorbmwatex
5.4.8 The Secrets of the Empire drops in ToT and SoO too on LFR, Normal, Flex and HC. the drop chance by wowhead is too low i think, because i've got 8 in full ToT and SoO clear.
GL
评论来自
1270696
Random little add on but you can get these without looting boss if you are near for kill. I was locked out of Primordious and got one of these even though i didn't get loot from the boss.
评论来自
484054
i picked up my secrets quest after i got my 3k valor tuesday and i had already cleared Soo lfr , so can i go back in to soo lfr and get a chance at secrets?
评论来自
icwtcx
I am not sure whether blizz has increased the drop-rate or is it my sheer luck, I have collected 10 x
帝国秘史
on my first week of the quest
第一帝国的秘密
from full ToT clear and SoO first 2 wings. That too without Gaze of the black prince buff.
评论来自
idotla
People have complained that the drop rates listed in the chart above are incorrect.
It should be noted that the chart DOES NOT SAY that these are the drop rates for ELIGIBLE PLAYERS ONLY.
Obviously a lot of players who kill each boss do not have even currently have the quest!
Therefore you should pay more attention to what has been said here in comments rather than in the automatically generated drop table above.
Btw... Took me about 4-5 weeks under normal conditions a few months ago.
During the enhanced drop-rate promo weeks, an alt got a total of 16 during
those two weeks; a small statistical sample implying that the promo was
about double drop chance for the non-100% bosses.
评论来自
BCAnimus
Quick question - I'm onto a later part of the chain, with the titan stones, but I still have a Secrets left in my bags... is there some other use for this? or can I safely delete it?
评论来自
amengl1983
These have the potential to drop off of every boss in Throne of Thunder as well as the first EIGHT bosses of Siege.
I was looking for this information the other day and noticed it was not here. So here it is for everyone else.
评论来自
TriZARAtops
Okay, so I've done this now 7 times, so I thought I'd share some insight and some collection rates so people can get an idea of what to expect. Unfortunately the purity of my data is altered due to the
黑王子的凝视
buff and its lovely increased drop rates. I hope that by providing this information you are at least able to see some contrast between how random unbuffed drops are and how buffed they really can be, even with luck playing such a huge role.
On my first cloak I actually didn't record the drop rates for anything so that information is excluded from this list.
Paladin (#2)
Week 1: 5
帝国秘史
Week 2: 4
帝国秘史
Week 3: 4
帝国秘史
Week 4: 7
帝国秘史
*
Week 4: 4
泰坦符文石
* (Partial run only; used bosses for
帝国秘史
)
Week 5: 8
泰坦符文石
*
Mage (#3)
Week 1: 7
帝国秘史
Week 2: 7
帝国秘史
Week 3: 6
帝国秘史
*
Week 3: 3
泰坦符文石
* (Partial run only; used bosses for
帝国秘史
)
Week 4: 5
泰坦符文石
*
Week 5: 4
泰坦符文石
Priest (#4)
Week 1: 11
帝国秘史
*
Week 2: 6
帝国秘史
Week 3: 3
帝国秘史
Week 3: 8
泰坦符文石
* (Partial run only; used bosses for
帝国秘史
)
Week 4: 4
泰坦符文石
*
Druid (#5)
Week 1: 11
帝国秘史
*
Week 2: 9
帝国秘史
*
Week 2: 2
泰坦符文石
* (Partial run only; used bosses for
帝国秘史
)
Week 3: 6
泰坦符文石
Week 4: 4
泰坦符文石
Warlock (#6)
Week 1: 10
帝国秘史
*
Week 2: 10
帝国秘史
*
Week 2: 3
泰坦符文石
* (Partial run only; used bosses for
帝国秘史
)
Week 3: 3
泰坦符文石
Week 4: 3
泰坦符文石
Week 5: 3
泰坦符文石
Shaman (#7)
Week 1: 12
帝国秘史
*
Week 2: 8
帝国秘史
*
Week 2: 6
泰坦符文石
* (Partial run only; used bosses for
帝国秘史
)
Week 3: 6
泰坦符文石
* (Had the Black Prince buff for the first 4 Runestones. One of the last 2 I received was from Lei Shen, whom I had saved for his 100% drop.)
* denotes
黑王子的凝视
buff was applied.
I'd like to confirm that you
cannot
loot
泰坦符文石
from a boss after downing it for
帝国秘史
in the same week, regardless of difficulty. You
can
, however, loot the
Heart of the Thunder King
from Lei Shen from him the same week that you loot your last
泰坦符文石
.
And lastly, unlike the valor required for
A Test of Valor
, you
can
farm up the 5k
Timeless Coins
before receiving the quest to do so, and I highly recommend that you do. Once you get your last
泰坦符文石
you're really just a hop-skip-and-a-jump from your cloak. Also do
not
waste valor upgrading the epic cloak; once it becomes legendary it will
automatically
be at 2/4 upgrades so you will literally be wasting 500 vp. Save your valor and take it from 2/4 to 4/4.
Also:
帝国秘史
Drop in ALL wings in ToT (and Ra-den if you're doing heroic) and the first TWO wings of SoO.
泰坦符文石
Drop in the LAST two wings of ToT and the FIRST two wings in SoO.
Sorry for the long post. I hope all of this helps someone. Good luck!
评论来自
Gimroth
Everytime I'm facing a boss who has to drop these secrets for me, a quote keeps popping up in my mind:
"I'll rip the secrets from your flesh."
评论来自
joooson
Post from Rygarius on the wow forums 10/24/2013 reposting here because the information is still relevant.
" Rewriting this to make it clearer with how drops for Wrathion's Legendary drops work in Patch 5.4.
The chance for the item to drop is one attempt per eligible boss, per week across all difficulties.
The chance for the item to drop is the same regardless of difficulty mode.
Lei Shen and Sha of Pride are 100% guaranteed to drop the item that you need.
- Note: If you have already obtained a drop for a different item earlier in the week such as Secrets of the Empire, they will not drop a Titan Runestone if they are defeated again in the same week.
For The Strength of One's Foes where you collect 10xSigil of Power and 10xSigil of Wisdom they can drop from bosses in the following locations:
Mogu'shan Vaults
Heart of Fear
Terrace of Endless Spring
Throne of Thunder
Siege of Orgrimmar (only the first 2 wings)
- Vale of Eternal Sorrows
- Gates of Retribution
For Secrets of the First Empire where you collect 20xSecrets of the Empire, it can drop from bosses in the following locations:
Throne of Thunder
Siege of Orgrimmar (only the first 2 wings)
- Vale of Eternal Sorrows
- Gates of Retribution
For Echoes of the Titans where you collect 12xTitan Runestone. The item can drop from:
Throne of Thunder (only wings 3 and 4)
- Halls of Flesh-Shaping
- Pinnacle of Storms
Siege of Orgrimmar (only the first 2 wings)
- Vale of Eternal Sorrows
- Gates of Retribution"
I've been reading around on drop rates without the Gaze of the Black Prince buff, and most people seem to suggest the drop rate is around 20% for Secrets of the Empire.
Hope this helps.
评论来自
Greyybeard
Has anyone received any secrets since the Gaze bonus expired August 25, 2014?
With two toons I've done 7 raids, about 17 bosses (some raids were in progress when joined) and have ZERO drops.
Know of someone else with zero drops in 12 bosses.
评论来自
furianXO
Drop rate must have changed, or I am very lucky today. I got 12 of these today, so far, and still have 4 bosses left to go.
评论来自
BluBlaBlu
Read a lot of comments and didn't find this info (even if we are 2 months away from WoD): If you do a mode without the quest and then come back to that mode with the quest
You won't receive any Secrets
.
For example (just to clarify): You did SoO LFR, Flex and Normal without the quest, you won't receive any Secrets that week after picking the quest and running again the raid.
评论来自
richard112688
hey blizzard thank u 19 of them and finished my raids for this week love u to
评论来自
nimerod
Got 15 of them this resset thanks to the buff.
评论来自
990040
So, after losing the
Gaze of the Black Prince
buff on patch 6.0.2, I went to "most" of the LFR on Oct 16 and these were my profits...
Halls of Flesh Shaping:
<Pending>
Pinnacle of Storms:
Iron Qon:
nothing
.
Twin Consorts:
nothing
.
Lei Shen:
NOTHING
(WTF!)
Valley of Eternal Sorrows:
Immerseus:
nothing
.
Fallen Protectors:
nothing
.
Norushen: x1 (done on Oct 14)
Sha: x1 (done on Oct 14)
Gates of Retribution:
<Pending>
I did the first SoO wing before Lei Shen, so I assumed bad luck on the drops from Immerseus and Protectors; then got pretty bummed since Iron Qon and Twins didn't drop any either, but again blamed bad luck.
THEN Lei Shen didn't drop !@#$ and that's when I lost it, not bad luck anymore, this is Blizz's fault. That's why two LFRs are pending.
Opened a ticket (for all that's worth) a couple hours ago, still waiting response.
***UPDATE: So, the only response I got was along the lines of: "We've been notified and are working on it. Sorry for the inconvenience."
Yesterday I finished the week's LFR and got 4 more Secrets.
Last Stand of the Zandalari: Jin'Rok and Horridon dropped one each. Council didn't.
Forgotten Depts: Nobody.
Halls of Flesh Shaping: Only Durumu dropped.
Gates of Retribution: Only Shamans.
***Yet another UPDATE:
Oct 24: Lei Shen DID drop me a on this week's LFR. I know the post isn't about those, but at least he dropped the guaranteed quest item he refused me last week.
评论来自
jait
October 6th, when buffed was removed (day before patch)
4 of 11 secrets (excluding Lei and Sha)
Got 5, missed Lei Shen by 5 minutes before servers down.
Week of Oct 14
9 of 16
Sha only so far. Still need to do last ToT wing.
15/20 currently
评论来自
Malestryx
I am not sure if anyone is aware of this, but I started the Secret quest line last week. From what I have read, you can only receive them from all of the ToT bosses and the first 2 wings of SoO. They will only drop for you on LFR, NORM, or HEROIC. Once you loot boss, you cannot get them to drop on any other difficulties. I know first hand this is not true. I fully cleared all of ToT and the first 2 wings of SoO in LFR. Then I queued SoO NORM and got 2 more. So I am not sure if it was a bug, but based on my experience it does work.
评论来自
828102
Today I did all of ToT and the first 8 bosses in SoO on my warrior doing the quest.
I then got into a Flex (or how it's now called "Normal") raid for SoO, and got 2 more Secrets in the normal raid (first 4 bosses, one from Immerseus, and one from Sha, who also dropped one in LFR mode).
Might be worth checking out for those rushing a last minute cloak.
评论来自
Qoko
I can add to the drop of a Secret from a boss I had previously killed in 6.0.3. This happened today, the scenario:
Ran Immerseus through Sha heroic on my druid needing 3 Secrets.
Only the Sha's guaranteed one dropped.
In order to soothe my conscience I decided to run part one LFR to see if it really did not drop additional secrets.
To my surprise, the Protectors did drop one.
Sha, whom had given me one on heroic, did not.
This lets me to believe that instead of "one chance per boss per week" it's now "one drop per boss per week". Regardless the difficulty or if you've run the boss before: if it did not yet drop a secret (or runestone) it can.
In order to test this I ran again:
ToT pt1: earlier today only the Council dropped one. Jin'rokh and Horridon did
not
drop my final secret.
SoO pt1 twice: Immerseus or Norushen did
not
drop my final secret, twice.
I've read on Reddit that ToT is most likely
not
adjusted by the 6.0 change because the difficulties did not change. In the SoO it might be different due to the difficulty changes, but might
not
apply to LFR alone. I.e., if you did LFR and didn't get no secrets, try normal or hc instead.
I will continue running some SoO part one LFR to exclude statistical unlikely scenarios (as not getting the last secret in ten kills or something) and might try to pick up a normal run in part one to see what it gives me.
ADDITION 31/10: ran SoO LFR1 multiple times, sometimes just Immerseus and sometimes up to Norushen, once up to Sha. In
neither
situation I got a Secret. I'm pretty confident that LFR is not included in the droprate changes. I run ToT normal or hc too few to include info, and on my druid I'll probably not add much for SoO either. Just saying once again that I DID get an item from a boss on LFR I previously run on heroic. At best I can advice to run LFR on the character you're going for the cloak, and rerun normal/hc for bosses that didn't drop any.
If this applies to
泰坦符文石
I can only say coming next week.
评论来自
Jazzycakes2
Can anyone confirm that if I finish my secrets quest this lockout, that I can get runestones from the same bosses that dropped secrets?
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