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评论来自
1515
My level 36 Hunter friend absolutely loves this weapon, although by looking at the stats it seems more like the kind of weapon for a Warrior.
评论来自
55847
Most people may think that this is better then the
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6977
but it is NOT. Just because it has +18 strength and the Whirlwind Sword has +15 does not make it better.
评论来自
dahehe
this weapon is sometimes hard to obtain i myself am having trouble getting it for my shaman which im lvling atm
i find that a good alternative weapon/s are
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6327
and also
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=1722
and lastly
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9383
i like the thornstone sledgehammer i have it on my shaman and with bad/decent gear i've hit 400 windfurrys somewhat regularly
评论来自
patriknashnl
This axe is delicious. Well worth it, imo, to do this instance for that one quest too that gives a rare blue and for this axe...if you're lucky.
评论来自
23983
this thing is way too fast for any self respecting shaman.
评论来自
nephrite
In 2.3 the level requirement is being reduced to 28.
评论来自
54591
Corpsemaker is still the king, in my opinion, due to the higher top-end damage and the slower swing speed (i.e. greater chance per hit of enchants to proc). Thermaplugg's Left Arm is a really nice weapon, but if I were twinking, it would have to be Corpsemaker.
评论来自
79788
It is it doesn't have any special restrictions it should be possible to TBC-enchant it, since the item lvl is above 35.
评论来自
100276
I tried Savagery on it.. wont work level req needs to be 35 i think, either that or this is no level 37 item
评论来自
Dartanyon
Since patch 2.3 this is now the best 2h axe you can have for a warrior/pally pre-30 and even better than many others at low 30's. The weapon lvl is the highest of any axe pre-30 (higher than Corpsemaker).
When comparing to corpsmaker remember this: the speed on Corpsmaker is 1.1s slower than this axe. Although it may actually cause more damage per hit the difference between the two is negligable considering he horrible cast time. How many times have you gotten a mob down to practically no health only to have to wait forever for the next hit (provided your other "extra" hits are still on CD) because of a slow cast time. 3.80 is almost 4 seconds between hits.
I have a friend who is currently a 32 arms/fury warrior critting 300+ with this axe. I've been working to get this axe for my pally for DPS simply because the gains from SoR would be a hell of a lot better. Not to mention when I use SotC I get 40% speed increase which brings this axe's speed to 1.93 (total weapon DPS jumps to 45.5). And this is just mentioning the DPS, the str increase is amazing as well (increase melee AP by 36 for war/pally).
评论来自
37463
Please correct this listing! It is NOT level 37. I could not get an enchanter to put savagery on it because it said it was too low.
评论来自
63711
Good for 29 Shaman Twinks. Since the damage is very much just based on auto-attacks and enhancements (frostbrand the most viable for PvP at this stage), it's almost a solid 4 DPS higher than the Corpsemaker. Slap Crusader on and go to town.
Or if you're like me you can get both and be a happy chappy.
评论来自
44775
Note: "for twinks like...nearly any class that dmg with melee." This weapon can be used for Mongoose enchant since its req lvl 28 and is an item lv 37...but else if you can't get mongoose or if its all too expensive, then i wuold still mean that this weap is better than Corpsemaker...its a lill fast and have great dps...and...as twink you have alot of stam already...so why get more?
评论来自
119023
if you will create a Twink, get this item! why?
This item lvl is 37= sick enchant(for that lvl) like
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27984
and
http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27971
:D
ive never seen anyone use it with enchants though :(
评论来自
Arom
I've had a horrible experience with this weapon on my 35 retribution pally. I got it in a quick Gnomeregan run with a few friends, and everybody, including a level seventy paladin and my best friend, who incidentally doesn't own a paladin past the level of twenty, urged me on to use it. At the time I was happy with a one-handed sword and shield combo. It had been quite a few levels since I had used 2-handed axes, and so I would have to skill this one up.
At first, I thought that the horrible potential that this weapon seemed to dish out was just because I was levelling up in skill, and yet at 172 out of 175 skill, I'm still having problems with doing as good as my last weapon. As a level 35 paladin, fighting the same levels as before in Stranglethorn Vale, I'm having a bad experience with this guy.
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
评论来自
136306
it is said that this wep. is alot better than corpsemaker for 29 twink warrior.
is it true?
评论来自
leuitinet
which would be better for the BGs? this or the almighy Corpsemaker? this one has higher DPS, but lower dmg. and has more str and stam. I'm just wondering, cause i've got a survival hunter, and i tank pretty well. plus i like to pvp. Help me out here. lol which should i get, thisor corpsemaker?
评论来自
125156
Most dps possible for a Twink 29
评论来自
154769
Edit: Looks like the person I was replying deleted their post. However, I'll leave this up here, so we can get the message through that fast = bad, slow = good.
You're forgetting the Windfury Cooldown period. Windfury won't proc again for 3 seconds after it procs. Thus, your fast weapon will miss out on chances to proc WF, while your slow weapon will never fall inside this window (ignoring the effects of Flurry, which won't actually change the results, as it will skew everything, fast or slow, into the WF cooldown period).
So yes. Please do math before posting idiocy:
Windfury Cooldown = 3s.
2.7s will come within this period, with one swing landing inside. Thus, 2.7*2 = 5.4s before WF can proc, with this weapon again.
3.7s will not come within this period, thus it will be 3.7s before WF can proc again. And thus, this a slower weapon will definitely do more damage via Windfury.
And in addition, quoted shamelessly from Elitist Jerks:
A quick example: a 1.5 speed weapon that does 100 dps versus a 2.6 weapon that does 100 DPS wielded by a shaman with 1400 AP. We'll ignore target AC, avoidance, wielder crit rate and flurry for the purposes of this argument, as they are scalars that would affect both equally. Similarly, the difference between main hand and off hand strikes is 50% so this also affects both weapon speeds.
White Damage (autoattack) Average DPS after AP contribution
1.5 speed: 100 + (1400/14) = 200 DPS
2.6 speed: 100 + (1400/14) = 200 DPS
We see by this example that DPS does exactly what it advertises it does -- both weapons do an equal amount of damage over a given time span. The 1.5 does not hit as hard as the 2.6, but hits more often. However this does not hold true for the WF procs:
Windfury Proc Damage
Speed * (weapon DPS + DPS from AP) = Damage
1.5 speed weapon: 1.5 * (100 + 100) = 300 damage
2.6 speed weapon: 2.6 * (100 + 100) = 520 damage
This is discounting the extra AP that each WF proc gives you -- since the proc's AP also scales with weapon speed, the damage range widens further. At max rank with 3/3 Elemental Weapons, Windfury Weapon procs are worth ~623 bonus AP and thus 623/14 ~= 44.5 more DPS.
Windfury Proc Damage including Windfury AP
Speed * (weapon DPS + DPS from AP + DPS from Windfury AP) = Damage
1.5 speed weapon: 1.5 * (100 + 100 + 44.5) = 367 damage
2.6 speed weapon: 2.6 * (100 + 100 + 44.5) = 635.7 damage
As you can see from this example, the slower weapon's Windfury Proc is nearly double the damage of its faster companion even though their white damage contributions are equal. Unlike your normal attacks, the 1.5 speed weapon does not proc Windfury Weapon significantly more often than its 2.6 counterpart -- at most you will see 2 to 3 additional procs per minute, and this is not nearly enough to make up for the tremendous damage difference. Even at a nigh-unattainable 20 PPM versus a 2.6 speed weapon with a conservative 15 PPM, a 1.5 speed weapon cannot match up.
Damage from Windfury procs in 1 minute:
Quantity 20 WF procs from a 1.5 speed weapon: 7340 damage (123 DPS)
Quantity 15 WF procs from a 2.6 speed weapon: 9525 damage (158 DPS)
Total DPS from auto-attacking:
1.5 speed weapon: 200 + 123 = 323 DPS
2.6 speed weapon: 200 + 158 = 358 DPS
Difference: 10%. Simply by wielding a slower weapon, a shaman can noticeably improve their melee damage. The benefits of slow weaponry are not limited to this example. This particular example uses an extremely conservative AP value -- the gap widens the higher the Shaman's AP climbs. The example further ignores additional benefits of slow weapons including better burst damage in PVP, improved Flurry uptime, and harder Stormstrike hits. The uptime of Unleashed Rage is generous enough that it is very easy to keep up even with dual slow weapons. There is simply no good reason to use a faster weapon in conjunction with Windfury. For these reasons it is best to ensure that your procs hit as hard as possible by using slow weapons (this is also one of the reasons that stacking Strength/AP and Crit is more beneficial than stacking hit).
Which means that in fact, irrespective of the cooldown, Windfury gains more from having a slower weapon, because of the AP scaling with weapon speed.
So again, I implore you, do the math. And don't lecture others unless you have fully researched the subject. Preferably using your own simulations or those of others.
评论来自
156935
highest dps for a 29, i have this one my paladin and it rocks!!!
评论来自
171291
When I checked its item level it stands 37, is this right ?
评论来自
192392
personaly i used this for my twink 29 warrior i think its better than corpsemaker
评论来自
Isurus
Anyone realised that this weapon is lv 37 and can be enchanted with Savagery and various TBC enchants. Making it far much better than Corpsemaker with Crusader, because Corpsemaker is just lv 34.
评论来自
258545
Question:
I am a 29 twink pala, with both
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6687
and this, and i use
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3824
with it, and i dont know which one to use. This has higher stats, less speed and is good for combo with shadow oil, whereas Corpsemaker has a tiny bit more stam, Higher top end, and slow speed.
New patch =
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41094
So, Glyph of SoC + Shadow oil has me using this, but i have Corpsemaker up and rdy, both enchanted with crus.
Please help someone.
评论来自
243044
I prefer this to
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6687
cos this is only a little weaker, a hell of a lot faster, and does more DPS. Bad thing is a really low drop rate :(
评论来自
191431
This or the Heirloom 2h? for a enhancement shammy, without wf. And also have the crowd pummler off of whatever boss that is.
评论来自
405552
ill take this over corpse maker any day
评论来自
405552
ill take this over corpse maker any day
评论来自
gubugu
Heirloom , lol
what deed?
it LVL's with you
评论来自
537430
can be enchanted with
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22556
评论来自
266285
Ok, I don't get it.
Is NO ONE on this page actually reading other people's comments?
By andriaz on 12/14/2007 (Patch 2.3.0)
Note: "for twinks like...nearly any class that dmg with melee." This weapon can be used for Mongoose enchant since its req lvl 28 and is an item lv 37...but else if you can't get mongoose or if its all too expensive, then i wuold still mean that this weap is better than Corpsemaker...its a lill fast and have great dps...and...as twink you have alot of stam already...so why get more?
Disproven by:
By Tahara on 12/17/2007 (Patch 2.3.0)
Sorry, no, this item cannot be enchanted with Mongoose. If it were a quest reward with no level requirement to equip, but retained its item level 37, then yes, it would be eligible. However level requirements take precedence over the item level.
I recommend Crusader or 25 agility on this weapon.
Now, since that is STILL there, I do believe that it would be safe to assume that it was there when other people made their comments...
By ShamTheChamp on 01/03/2009 (Patch 3.0.3)
Is a level 35+weapon but .. I recomend crusader enchant
Disproven by BOTH Tahara's earlier comment AND xer0trigger's right here:
By xer0trigger on 01/09/2009 (Patch 3.0.3)
Items with a required level to use override the item level as far as enchants are concerned. So even though this is item level 37, it acts as a level 28 weapon for enchanting.
Now, for the hopeful (like me), you'd assume the lack of reading other comments stops here, but for some stupid reason, it continues.
By peanuttbutterman on 02/03/2010 (Patch 3.3.2)
can be enchanted with
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22556
SAME EXACT THING, disproven YET AGAIN by both previous comments and ANOTHER!
By midtown 3/02/10 (Patch 3.3.2)
That's a completely bogus claim. This weapon cannot be enchanted with Major Agility because the level requirement is below 35, and level requirements take priority over item levels for enchantments. Please downrate peanuttbutterman's lie.
...Seriously people. This is stupid. Is it really THAT HARD to actually bother to actually READ someone else's comment? Is it SUCH a damn problem, that we end up having the same, stupid comments repeated again and again? I hope these guys are trolling, and really aren't as dumb as they look, or else I'm gonna be @#$%ed.
Read, people. Read. You wouldn't be taught to read in school if people knew you weren't going to bother using that skill.
评论来自
Dobmiestre
I'm personally rather curious what the embodiment of his right arm is.
评论来自
Shayler
Yaknow, maybe we shoulda taken the hint, in cata it turns out we were just killing a robot of of him
评论来自
602404
Some twink info: Sats aside, this remains the highest 2h dps available(32.6) on a weapon in the 20-29 bracket. (in regards to new Boa items
www.wowhead.com/item=42943
which at lvl(29) has 29.0 dps) And, with 9 more str, and the same Enchant potential, by no means should this weapon be disregarded. Most likely however, class depending, the BoA will come out on top due to its superior speed-to-proc ratios. (The boa being a full 1.1 sec slower) Not all of us have 80's though, so happy hunting
评论来自
1026612
decent 24 twink weapon
评论来自
pat33
Might help you
Didn't seemed to be dropping on my warrior prot after 20 tries even in arm looting spec. So I've changed specs to arms and it did it after 4 try.
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