评论来自 Kalx

For all of your cooking and smashing heads needs.

Model looks like a rolling pin.

评论来自 Hakunamatata

Model looks like a rolling pin.

Maybe cause...umm...it is one. Heroic Cookie, go!

评论来自 Theodicus

Cool! Now mabye fools will stop showing up to pvp battles with the non-heroic one.

评论来自 GinjaNinja

...
Heroic... Cookie's Tenderizer...
This is the best.

评论来自 paddymew

Frost Death Knights are now beyond happy.

Frost Male ~~Night~~ Elf Death Knights now have a way of looking even more queer.

评论来自 rebellion991

A crazy cook DW this is coming towards you and wants to smack you to pieces. What do you do?

A) Run for your life
B) Tank him
C) Cookie ?
edit:typo

评论来自 DMRosso

Dual Wield two of these with a Chef's hat and title for extra amusement points.

评论来自 370864

May I remind you that male Blood Elf DKs look like f'ing Tinkerbell on plate armor. Thus...

Frost Male ~~Night~~ Elf Death Knights now have a way of looking even more queer.

评论来自 GinjaNinja

Also, one handed? Str + Stam? Hit and Mastery? Mastery gives tanks block?
Tanking weapon.
Yes, a dps weapon too... but I play a tank. I want this.

评论来自 170325

This will be heavely sought after by everyone who uses strength 1h weapons, because of the 2.8 speed. I thin everyone will want two of them in fact.

评论来自 Ston

A rogue friend of mine will probably go after this. Although she is partial to dual-wielding muttons, she may very well decide to switch things up and add rolling pins into the mix. She's still hoping to catch a couple of dark herrings as well.

评论来自 Tenjen

Goes well with 未鉴定的炊具

评论来自 Dwarfageddon

so the best in slot pre-raid weapons are in fact 2 rolling pins u jacked from a murloc

评论来自 intuit

Best in slot pre-raid warrior/paladin tanking weapon.

评论来自 454553

Enchants do not show up on this. At least the crappy healing one I tried.

评论来自 102378

Apperently while this weapon has nice stats indeed it can't prevent the fact it's the silliest weapon around ;3
(Fun fact-This weapon has an increased critical strike chance if used by eldery women)

评论来自 Umran

(Fun fact-This weapon has an increased critical strike chance if used by eldery women)

I lol'd..indeed bis pre-raid pally tank weapon..slap Mending or Windwalk on it and off to the temple you go with noggins to knock!

评论来自 481166

This weapon also has a phenominal 2.8 speed

评论来自 635471

What are you smoking? What can POSSIBLY be gay about a ROLLING PIN that drops from a MURLOC wearing a pirate's hat who's swimming in a cauldron?

评论来自 kaos89

asuhshsushsuahasuhasuhuash BLIZZARD WINS!1!1!
I LOVE 'EM!

评论来自 Murakuchi

Due to the speed it is possible this is a better OH for an enhance shaman than an agility one, it is perfect except for the strength.

Edit: Confirmed, this weapon is an enh shamans wet dream.

评论来自 29399

It irks me slightly that the best blue tanking weapon including my dwarf racial is a rolling pin.

I guess I'll just have to use my 'Chef' title and go about town with the Chef's Hat too.

评论来自 Axxon95

Indeed it does.

评论来自 kaos89

If you dual-wield it you get "ultimate cooking power" buff which increases twice your cooked food.

评论来自 Imspecial

源质利齿 - Elementium Fang

From High Priestess Azil in stoncore (parry/mastery) is BIS pre raid, don't spout crap into the comments unless you have some sort of evidence to back yourself up.

http://maintankadin.failsafedesign.com/forum/index.php?f=3&t=29732&rb_v=viewtopic

评论来自 135399

An absolute dream come true for Enhancement shammys.

The 2.80 speed and monster top end DMG is perfect for stormstriking, Ofcourse, that paired with Mastery, and hit which is always needed.

You get the same amount of Attack power from the Strength on this thing, but you will lose about 1% crit over a Agility main hand, effecting flurry uptime, but not significently enough to count this out as a excellent weapon.

I would, and am personally using this over an agility main hand, and hit like a bloody truck atm.

Sanc X0X0

评论来自 Mymomisyours

This item is definately better than Smite's Reaver or Axe of the Eclipse, and also if unfortunately does not show on your character while its "holstered".

评论来自 119299

Would go very well with This. Great new weapons for DW Deathknights and both dropping from the same instance is also very convenient if you're lucky enough to get both on one run
EDIT: Or just look badass DW two heroic rolling pins

评论来自 623271

Actually, this could easily be considered a BiS pre-raid weapon for a Paladin tank, given the preference of Mastery over other avoidance stats and a need to reach the hit cap.

Source - Elitist Jerks: http://elitistjerks.com/f76/t110338-cataclysm_tanking_protection_field_manual_updated_dec_13_2010_4_0_3a/

评论来自 584528

Extremely good for both prot tanking specs. Mastery is the stat to stack for tanks at the start of this expansion (at least until the unhittable 102.4% is reached), and of the four strength one-handers with Mastery this one holds the distinction of having an unusual 2.8 swing speed. Most likely 2nd BiS for pre-raid assuming you're not an Orc, in which case you'll want the Axe of the Eclipse as 2nd BiS. Elementium Fang with Mastery and Parry is probably BiS pre-raid, as threat is quite easy at the moment.

评论来自 intuit

Maybe you didn't notice that it's 2.8 speed. Mastery is also just as useful, if not more useful than parry/dodge for warrior and paladins (esp paladins at this point, i'd think). Only reason anyone would take the fang over this is because this has hit. I don't see the small amount of hit as such a negative, esp after reforging part of it.

Both weapons have their strengths. I had both early on in cata, but I can tell you I got MUCH more use out of the rolling pin!

评论来自 Spinnacer

It's too slow for Warrior tanking. I vendor'd mine because I started having problems with rage generation (especially on caster bosses) which resulted in a overall decrease in DPS.

To add insult to injury:
- Won't sheathe on your belt
- Ugly as sin
- Enchants won't be visible.

It's probably great for SMG fury though and roleplaying with your chef's hat though.

评论来自 168990

2.8 vs 2.6 is not going to be a noticeable loss in rage for warrior tanks. The higher top-end damage will be quite noticeable though. If you are low on rage it is probably because you use your rage dump too often (heroic strike).

评论来自 Murakuchi

As of Cataclysm shamans get 2 AP from agility and only 1 from strength, but the speed more than makes up for the loss of AP

Also, its better in the offhand due to lava lash.

评论来自 757458

How much do you favor the Dwarf racial? Is this THE best is slot pre-raid tanking weapon for Dwarf tanks?

Or would you still rather have the Elementium Fang?

评论来自 unckle

The baker's tool , at 2.8 weapon speed has a max dmg of 1491 ( if u don't consider any AP )
The best agility ilvl346, 2.6s weapon has a max dmg of 1385 + 129x2/14*2.6 = 1433 ( considering the AP from the agility on the weapon, for enhancement shamans )

when considering WF procs and SS ... adn considering that u lose some crit... well, any 346 weapon is good for u :)

评论来自 Imspecial

Previous comment was downvoted by a few paladins trying to defend their poor claims, posting this so its still visible to those that want proper information.

Cookie's Tenderizer - 86mastery + 34.4dodge = 120.4 tank stats
Elementium Fang - 86mastery + 86 parry = 172 tank stats

Why do you want to give up 51.6 parry for 0.2 speed.... threat is not even a minor concern with the tps tanks are putting out so hit rating/expertise is completely useless. You should be gearing for max survival like all the smart/top guild tanks are doing.

Cookie's Tenderizer is bis pre raid for both SMF and Frost DK's due to both benefiting hugely from the 2.8 speed. I hope none of you take it over a dps and use a few mis-informed comments on wowhead to validate it.

评论来自 533031

I would think it would go even better with it's self, since it's not Unique-Equipped

评论来自 Nimmersatt

This is the best pre-raid weapon for Frost DW DKs and SMF Fury Warriors. It's long swing time means more damage, and its +hit makes it very attractive to Fury Warriors who want to be hard DW hit capped. Below is the compassion between this and a slightly faster 346 One-hander, Smite's Reaver.

Cookie's Tenderizer:
802-1491--base damage range
818.93--base average damage
2,516.29-3,205.29--damage range with 10,000 AP added
2,860.79--average damage with 10,000 AP added
3,544.86-4,233.86--damage range with 16,000 AP added
3,889.36--average damage with 16,000 AP added

Smite's Reaver:
745-1,385--base damage range
819.23--base average damage
2,459.29-3,099.29--damage range with 10,000 AP added
2,779.29--average damage with 10,000 AP added
3,487.86-4,127.86--damage range with 16,000 AP added
3,807.86--average damage with 16,000 AP added

Using Cookie's Tenderizer over Smite's Reaver yields a damage increase of 2.93% with 10,000 AP or 2.14% with 16,000 AP. In lev 346 gear, having about 10,000 AP self-buffed is about average, while with trinkets proccing and weapon chants proccing, you can easily reach 16,000 AP if not more, hence the values used.

Notees:
--with normalization, 10,000 AP translates into +1,714.29 damage (AP/14x2.4) and 16,000 translates into 2,742.86

评论来自 Lindentree

Given that threat is not a concern for tanks at the moment, strength weapons with mastery and one threat stat are beaten out by agility weapons with mastery and one threat stat. So this is not 2nd BiS, but rather 6th, after

Elementium Fang (naturally),
Elementium Gutslicer (agi, hit, mastery),
Ravening Slicer and Thief's Blade (agi, haste, mastery),
and the Axe of the Eclipse (strength, but 98 mastery compared to Cookie's 86).

评论来自 782092

As of the latest patch (4.0.6?), this no longer looks like a rolling pin in game. Instead, it looks like a more menacing club with spikes coming out of it.

It does, however, still show up as a rolling pin on the armory, but I assume that'll change soon.

评论来自 nopunin10did

While the slower speed of this weapon does theoretically increase the burst damage of abilities like lava lash and stormstrike, I have found that it is not in fact superior to other 346 agility weapons for enhancement.

I actually ran a very simple experiment to verify this. I was actually hoping that the slow offhand would give me a nice boost... I liked the idea of thwakking people with a rolling pin.

I simulated a raid boss dps situation by sustaining a dps rotation on an 85-tuned target dummy. With one setup, I used the Windslicer, a reasonable (but not necessarily optimal) agility 346 weapon. With the other, I equipped Cookie's Tenderizer. I performed a little reforging on my gear to ensure that in each setup, I was at the expertise cap and barely over the hit cap.

Statwise, the difference between each arrangement was really no more than 20 mastery/crit total, ratings wise. However, with the Cookie setup I had 129 more strength, with 129 more agility for the Windslicer setup.

Each weapon received several minutes of dps on the dummy. Each session included a Bloodlust and several Feral Spirit casts.

Long story short:

My Windslicer setup did an average 1-2k more DPS than Cookie's Tenderizer.

Dropping an 129 agility weapon for a 129 strength weapon is not worth it, despite the 2.8 speed.

Edit: Please stop downrating this post! I know it disagrees with the simulation programs, but I did the research in-game, using the recommended caps and rotation for enhancement, and I really am getting these results. Please stop downrating original research.

评论来自 kaze950

Who else but Blizzard would change a funny, unique model into something generic.

评论来自 shawrk

Fail spiky mace is fail.

评论来自 584528

I'm not sure why you've come to the conclusion that Agility weapons are better than Strength ones. While it is true that even prot tanks get a tiny sliver of Dodge from Agility, they also get Parry from Strength - not up to the same conversion as DKs, obviously, but it's there. I don't know the exact conversion between strength/parry and agility/dodge, but at some point extra threat stats will prevent more damage on average than the tiny avoidance blip an agility weapon might provide purely by making things die a little quicker!

All of this is rendered moot by the Elementium Fang anyway. :)

Edit: Aha! We actually do get the same conversion from Strength to Parry as DKs now. So yeah, strength all the way, and this remains 2nd best in slot pre-raid heroic drop.

评论来自 Seriesh

Considering that no other Deadmines weapon (or SFK, that I could see) changed in model, including this one's non-heroic version, it's somewhat safe to assume that they're NOT going to keep this model, and they're gonna revert/fix it back to its old version.

评论来自 Falrinn

I highly doubt this is a bug. More then likely they decided that such a good heroic weapon shouldn't have what is essentially a joke model.

Anyways, the new model is actually fairly unique, it's only shared with one other weapon in the entire game. Hardly generic.

评论来自 xaratherus

Hard to say. As someone mentioned earlier, you couldn't see enchants on the original model, for whatever reason. Perhaps they changed it due to complaints on that, rather than fix the original model?

评论来自 436634

It looks better. You would think a tenderizer WOULD have spikes. A rolling pin just doesn't do the trick.

评论来自 sadison

What a bad idea to change the graphic on this mace - Blizz did you really hear compliants on the look of a rolling pin? Why take the fun out of the game? This game is becoming less amusing day by day.

评论来自 avatarofshadow

It's safe to assume anything you want. You'd just be wrong. Safe, but wrong...

评论来自 Lindentree

Since patch 4.2, agility no longer gives dodge to DKs, paladins or warriors, and this post should be ignored.

Context: This was in response to a thread the initial post of which appears to have been deleted, which claimed that this weapon was second BiS for shield tanks pre-raid. I pointed out a number of Agility pieces as well as the Axe of the Eclipse, and the OP claimed that strength weapons had more avoidance than agility because of the new strength to parry conversion. This was my rebuttal.

For warriors (and death knights), 1 agility = .4 dodge rating.
For paladins, 1 agility = .6 dodge rating.
For warriors and paladins (and death knights), 1 strength = .25 parry rating.

Agility provides more avoidance per point than strength does, so therefore, given two otherwise identical pieces of gear, if threat is meaningless and assuming your gear isn't already woefully unbalanced towards dodge, agility gear is better than strength gear for tanking.

Based on dodge rating/1% dodge and agility/1% dodge numbers taken from Elitist Jerks.

Comparing Cookie's Tenderizer to the Elementium Gutslicer:

Elementium Gutslicer

129 Agility ~= 51 dodge rating (warrior), 77 dodge rating (paladin)
86 hit rating -> 34 parry rating (reforging)
86 mastery rating

vs

129 Strength = 32 parry rating
86 hit rating -> 34 dodge rating (reforging)
86 mastery rating

Elementium Gutslicer wins with 2 parry rating, and 19-45 dodge rating more than Cookie's Tenderizer.

Obviously since Elementium Fang has not 1 but 2 tanking secondary stats, it's worth more than agi/mastery weapons; but comparing an agi/mastery/junk stat piece to a str/mastery/junk stat piece, the agi piece will outperform the str piece in survivability unless the str piece has significantly more mastery.

Thus, Elementium Gutslicer, Ravening Slicer, and Thief's Blade all outperform Cookie's Tenderizer for survivability, as they have the same amount of mastery, but substitute agility for strength.

评论来自 intuit

The elementium fang is better for pure survival. No one's disputing that, lol. But the gain in survival is absolutely trivial compared to a decent gain in dps/tps. Lots of tanks love to talk about how threat and dps is an absolute non-issue (these are, almost always, tanks who are more casual or doing low-end content), but it's definitely not completely useless. There are still threat-sensitive situations out there (mainly initial pickups), and because of this there are plenty of tanks out there who will judge a BiS item by overall usefulness (survivability and threat), ESP when talking about a weapon.

The avoidance gain is extremely tiny, yet the threat/dmg boost is noticable.

btw, I'm not a paladin. I play a warrior who's tanked bleeding-edge content for years now, and I almost always take a pretty significant boost to threat/dmg on a weapon over an extremely tiny boost to avoidance. Only exceptions are insanely hard-hitting bosses, which are usually only found in much higher-end content than you'd be tanking in blue 5man gear (and we might not see much of these anymore anyway, since insane tank damage isn't what blizz wants). I farmed both of these weapons and kept them both until I got my first epic tank weapon. Tanks should always keep more than 1 item to use in different situations.

评论来自 synz1976

I agree. What is the point of taking one of the best ideas EVER for a weapon and turning it into just another mace? I mean it was a rolling pin! A very leet rolling pin that was never in the game and now it is like any other mace. Blizzard should of left it the way it was!

Also I do not care if there is only one other mace like this in the game... that is the whole problem! It is a use model from Wrath of the Lich King! There was not another version of the rolling pin in the game! (Well except the normal version)

评论来自 754199

submitted a gm ticket over this MAJOR issue, they said they are sending my comments to the "quality assurance team" to be looked at! change it back imo, I didn't farm 2 for nothing, gimme my rolling pins back!

评论来自 ElliotHunts

WhY OH WHY BLIZZARD! YOU RUINED MY CHEF VANITY SET :<

The new model has a periodic lightning spasm effect.

评论来自 248305

Most lame change ever. Why the &*!@ did they have to change the model? Why use it in first place if they were just gonna make it an ugly spiked stick <.<

That's just really plain stupid. Ty Blizzard.

评论来自 SanSan

I'm happy it looks the way it looks now. Really liked this model ever since the Kalu'ak rep caster mace.

If you love the rolling pin so much, get the regular version.

评论来自 545776

They took away my rolling pin. And they replaced it with a Wrath model. A WRATH MODEL. /anguish

评论来自 randomplayer

As of today (2/15/11), there is a blue post implying the graphic will come back (source: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/158382/item-cookies-tenderizer)

Cookie’s Tenderizer is a rather unique item indeed... Currently it is considered a pre-raiding best-in-slot item and therefore we feel it important that it can be sheathed and that any enchants on it are shown, which is something that currently isn't possible with the rolling pin model. It would take quite a bit of work to make the rolling pin work properly, so although the model for the heroic version has been changed, one should never dismiss the possibility that we may see the rolling pin model return.

评论来自 Pointblank

A blue post from http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1695060194#16 explains the change in graphic.

评论来自 Jevay

As of 4.0.6, the model of this item has changed. However, the nonheroic-version (曲奇的吹火棍) still has the old model.

评论来自 nopunin10did

Lava Lash doesn't increase fire damage any more. It's totally unrelated to Searing Totem.

评论来自 nopunin10did

I tested this out with a sustained dps trial and found the opposite. The 2.8 speed does not make up for the agility -> strength change at all. It is far better to use another 346 weapon.

See my post below; I have all the details.

评论来自 Dreadmight

While the model of the weapon has (sadly) changed, it still has the associated sound when attacking of the rolling pin, ie wooden clunking.

评论来自 418689

that's why they changed the model

评论来自 amallya

nop.

评论来自 Sieghardt

I just got this one with my paladin. Mastery is awesome and hit rating can be reforged into parry/dodge. Oh holy cow, the speed scales pretty well with CS (310% weapon damage), which really helps countering TPS issues.

Recommendable!

评论来自 Scharr

I have fought all the way to level 85. I am taking out Heroic level bosses, preparing myself to encounter dragons and the leaders of Deathwing's forces. I have faced countless foes and seen might evils fall.

..and you want me to charge into Deathwing's lair with a freakin' rolling pin? Please.

I am glad the heroic model got updated. And I wish they would update -other- heroic models as well. People should be able to tell they are heroic in other ways besides inspecting you and seeing the word in green letters.

评论来自 813210

I don't know man the heroic version doesn't look like "just a regular rolling pin jacked from a murloc" to me. Looks more like something that would rip something like a dragon to shreds in a matter of seconds. Imo one of the best weapon models ingame.

评论来自 flcl92

once 4.3 hits, simply use the non-hc version to transmogrify your heroic version, and bam! 曲奇的吹火棍

评论来自 733828

I too was sore about the change. It was fun to dual wield these as rolling pins and had many laughs on my Female Draenei DK. Good thing for transmog. Sadly however, trying to transmog a "main hand" item with this will not work. 2 runs through deadmines to get it to drop to find out the hard way. QQ

评论来自 956374

I haven't tried it myself but i imagine you can transmog this model to the old one no?
edit: or any other 1h mace for that matter if it tickles your fancy.

评论来自 wowelderscrolls

Cookie got a bad deal when he went to West-Mart; instead of getting a replacement for his rolling pin, he got a hammer with spikes growing out of it in odd-places. Not too good for tenderizing, or even rolling dough.

评论来自 Quetzelcoatl

You could definitely tenderize more than food with this...

评论来自 stevetl

Ok, so I want this to transmog onto Pero'than's Gavel. The gavel is one hand, so that should work. Cookie's Tenderizer is the same model as Totemic Purification Rod, which I can buy from the Kalu'ak QM, having grinded my way to exalted with them. BUT Totemic Purification Rod is main-hand, so I can't use it as a transmog model for a one hand item. Obviously that's a sham, if Cookie's Tenderizer and Totemic Purification rod are the same model. I don't particularly feel like grinding Deadmines just for a transmog model.

What gives, Blizz? If it works, let us transmog it....

评论来自 1018940

I think the icon of the item should be something else. Because now it looks like a thread and it is confusing.

评论来自 LorB

The changed model makes me sad. :(

Bring back the rolling pin!

评论来自 OrangeGod

lol! a super epic looking tenderizer.

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