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10.2.7
PTR
10.2.6
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评论来自
scr00chy
The list of materials required:
50x
Elementium Bar
(or 100x
Elementium Ore
)
18x
Pyrium Bar
(or 36x
Pyrite Ore
)
60x
Volatile Fire
60x
Volatile Air
60x
Volatile Water
20x
Volatile Earth
3x
Chaos Orb
评论来自
Fille
Comparing this item with the justice point 346 ilvl chestpiece, this one looses on survivability..
Comparison
评论来自
545693
The above comparison tool tip is incorrect, particularly on the stamina.
This chest is optimized for a
Paladin
tank.
Over the Justice Point plate chest this offers...
+130 armor
+59 str
+58 stam
+ 66 parry (over dodge)
+ 47 expertise (over mastery)
- and loses 2 gems slots.
----You get back 60 stamina on blue socket.
----You get 30 stamina and 30 expertise on the yellow socket.
----You get 20 dodge on socket bonus.
So socketed fully socketed you come away with:
+
130 armor
+
59 strength
-
32 stam
+
40 parry/dodge
+
27 expertise/mastery
评论来自
388489
Comparing this item to the optimized 246 Justice Point chest for
Paladins
Hardened Elementium Hauberk
3426 Armor
341 Strength
512 Stamina
228 Parry
137 Expertise (reforged)
91 Mastery (reforged)
Chestplate of the Steadfast
3298 Armor
282 Strength
544 Stamina
182 Dodge
202 Mastery
Assuming it is gemmed with a 60 stamina gem and a 20 mastery/30 stamina gem and is not reforged.
This item gains
128 Armor
59 Strength
46 Parry (avoidance)
137 Expertise
This item loses
32 Stamina
111 Mastery
This item is inferior to the Justice Point chest for survivability, but is better suited towards threat.
评论来自
baphomet58
This chest is absolute crap and NOT optimized for paladin tank. Had the expertise been replaced by mastery, or even dodge, it would be worthwhile. The problem is, a tank doesn't need the 228 expertise to reach the 26 expertise cap. With my current gear, 346-359, I reach this cap even without reforging. Reforging the expertise on this piece to mastery would make it decent, but there would still be an excess of expertise that I wouldn't need. To make matters worse, it's missing the two sockets that the vendor chest comes with.
The only way I could recommend this chest is if you cannot reach the 26 expertise cap (shouldn't be the case) or you're trying to reach the 55 expertise cap.
评论来自
Ilford
It's correct that the avoidance stats of this chest are a small downgrade over the
Chestpiece of the Steadfast
, though parry is better than dodge for a warrior tank. The loss of mastery is greater than the gain in parry, though.
That said, the boost to threat and damage potential should not be overlooked. I feel with Vengeance, tanks can contribute more to overall damage than ever before (we'll see as the expansion continues). Sure, if you have all the expertise you need then it wouldn't make sense, but I'd argue that not every tank has gotten items with lots of it. None of the JP tank items have it and I haven't see too many drop out of heroics.
We should also keep in mind that this is only a 13 item level upgrade anyway. Don't let the colour fool you...
评论来自
487010
I'm a paly.
I don't have this chest and I already had to reforge expertise to something more useful because I was up to my neck in expertise (39 before reforging, including +10 bonus from glyph)... merely from heroic/JP/crafted/rep gear... no raiding done yet whatsoever. If this chest had
mastery
instead of
expertise
then I'd be sold...
but as it stands now, no thanx
评论来自
erongm
Why the hell those crafts cant give mastery or a gemslot? Isnt cheap to craft one, they should be better.
评论来自
498205
NOTE: I think they mixed up the mastery and expertise of the two crafted chestpieces.
As it currently stands, this chest is arguably better for SMF fury warriors than the Elementium Deathplate, as this one has +228 Expertise on it, and single handed weapons have less than half the expertise of the 2h weapons. Meanwhile the Deathplate has a huge chunk of Mastery, which is essential for tanks.
To use the Hardened Elementium Hauberk for SMF Fury DPS, the 228 parry could be reforged to expertise, making the chest stats
3426 Armor
+341 str
+512 sta
+114 hit
+114 parry (useless for pve as fury)
+228 expertise (great for SMF fury, and hard to imagine really needed by a tank)
Compared to the Elementium Deathplate with
3426 Armor
+341 str
+512 sta
+228 crit
+228 mastery (currently the least valuable stat for any dps spec, and it would be insanely better for tanking?)
+ --- the mastery above would be halved, probably trying for expertise or hit.
So you have to ask the question, didn't they screw these two up?
Blizzard, why did you give us a mostly useless tanking chest that's spec'd more like a dps chest, and a utterly worthless dps chestpiece that really needed the stats from the other?
You need to patch this item - and swap the mastery onto the tanking one and the expertise onto the DPS one!
End result (following suggestion here):
Hardened Elementium Hauberk
3426 Armor
+341 str
+512 sta
+228 Parry
+228 Mastery
Elementium Deathplate
3426 Armor
+341 str
+512 sta
+228 Crit
+228 expertise
WOWSA! We will now buy one of each, thank you very much!
评论来自
leivadaros91
With the updated patch notes for 4.0.6 it seems like all crafted epic armor pieces have had a socket added to them so this chest will likely see more use now :) . Not to mention it will finally make it better in terms of survivability when compared to
Chestplate of the Steadfast
.
Haven't confirmed the socket bonus or the socket colour yet tho.
The socket colour is blue and the bonus is +10 parry.
Edit: Ye after many months i decided to update the info on the chest.... feels redundant but meh P:!
评论来自
sorsa
Very lackluster compared to the justice point blue tanking chest, which is purely itemised for avoidance and higher stamina if you ignore the socket bonus and go with 2 stamina gems.
Naturally if you can pick this up cheap, I've seen em go for 4k from desperate sellers, then its certainly a viable alternative.
评论来自
25099
For a prot warrior this doesn't seem to be a worthwhile investment compared to Beautys Plate. Some minor stam and amour differences aside, you basically trade 162 mastery on Beautys for 228 expertise on this piece. While thats quite a bit of expertise for a single item, it's generally not nearly as important to have as survival/avoidance.
评论来自
NozE8
This pattern is still orange and gives +5 skill at 520.
评论来自
328556
For a Death Knight tank, this piece is significantly more valuable than other tanks because of our reliance on Death Strike. If it doesn't hit, you don't get the heal or the self-absorb.
According to the recent Dev Blog post by Goatlawler
, Expertise might turn into a defensive stat for other tanks as well, so this piece might see an increase in relative usefulness.
评论来自
Brood
Your comparison link has gems in one piece, not the other. If you reset it, the numbers prove to be quite different.
评论来自
dworin
@ KhorakSenji
NOTE: I think they mixed up the mastery and expertise of the two crafted chestpieces.
I totally agree with you on that. On my pala tank gear i crafted myself dps chest cause i have hit/expert cap. That was before patch with gems on, and main reason for that is becouse mastery is main stat for tanks and my goal was mastery cap. Just reforge crit in dodge and imo it is better tankin item then crafted tank chest.
P.S. I am raiding as holy so i had some nice tanking gear already, that's how i had hit/expert cap
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