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评论来自
cawfee
Drops from ... you guessed it, the
Black Knight
in H. ToC (5-man).
This is an ideal weapon for Mutilate rogues to use as either a PvE Mainhand or as Dual-Wield solution for PvP, and nicely evens the playing field with the other 219-ilevel items available before this was introduced in 3.2.2. It also replaces the
Direbrew's Shanker 2.0
as the best non-Raid-obtainable dagger for its purpose.
评论来自
blatterjr
Confirmed non-unique.
评论来自
268034
Acctually the first time ive seen toc5 HC loot table was... wtf weapons for all clases but rogues can only need for the gun? Totally an expectable loot tbh.
评论来自
461038
Okay well. I picked this weapon up today in Heroic ToC. I didn't need it or anything but I got it (by winning a greed) and I was looking at it and I was wondering if it would be suitable to actually use. I AM a hunter. I see a lot of rogues using this, so I am just wondering if I am even a LITTLE bit crazy for wanting to use this! lol What do you guys think? And if it seems sensible, what offhand could I pair this with?
评论来自
283255
Got another one today,got now x2 for my PvP Mutilate spec great daggers for starting to grinding honor.
评论来自
460444
What is the droprate of this item?
I mean, 0.1% doesn't sound fair to me.
Maybe because it hasn't updated yet or am I wrong?
评论来自
crusader666
Dropped for my muti rogue today, and I was totally not expecting it, didnt even know he could drop it :P
评论来自
115159
according to wow armory it has a 3-14% chance of dropping from black knight on heroic mode
评论来自
168002
Would this be a good OH with Direbrews shanker MH?
评论来自
354963
I actually had to look up what a Rondel was:
A rondel dagger (pronounced /ˈrɒndəl/) or roundel dagger was a type of stiff-bladed dagger in Europe in the late Middle Ages (from the 14th century onwards), used by a variety of people from merchants to knights. It was worn at the waist and might be used as a utility tool, or worn into battle or a jousting tournament as a side-arm.
评论来自
AltriX
I've done this boss everyday since the patch, never had it drop. >.<
评论来自
sharpnova
Not sure what sources you've been reading, but a slow is better. It's better for poison damage and for instant damage.
Wound and instant poisons have been proc/minute for over a month now and instants (and white) have always been wpn damage + 1.7*(ap/14) Only deadly poison remains 30% for hit and benefits from faster weapons. I believe this is a pve thing. I don't use deadly since it's not particularly viable in arena.
note: the 1.7 is the modifier for daggers. different weapons have different normalization coefficients.
Slower is better in general.
评论来自
322383
I have to say that this dagger is way easier to obtain than the other slow Melee DPS dagger, the
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46011
from General Vezax. First of all, despite the "low" droprate (Had to farm ToC eleven times to see it drop) is easier to aquire for a Casual Raider. Second, it is way better if you're Expertise capped (And with emblems' equip and tier 8 pieces, getting Expertise capped is easy) and you can afford to lose a few points of hit rating, gaining in exchange a good 0.72% crit. For a Casual PVE player, this dagger is truly a blessing. It is slow, good DPS, great stats, and it looks really good. Slap a Berserker enchant on it and enjoy this wonderful baby (This replaced my Anarchy, so it was a great upgrade^^)
评论来自
MilknessDalvengy
I've ran this place upwards of 30 times, never seen this drop. My gun finally dropped on my rogue, no shoulders for my Paladin and still no boots for my Rogue. And now I want these after seeing my friend who is a Mutilate Rogue (I'm combat maces).
BTW: did they JUST add this? I JUST started seeing it a few weeks ago.
Edit: Just saw this drop. I'm happy, just one more to go.
Edit 2: Also dropped on my Paladin today. Guess the drop rate is getting higher for me. I hope it drops again tommarow :)
评论来自
Vezon64
It seems that the drop rate of this weapon is incredibly low (probably even lower than that of Paletress' Marrowstrike weapon). Of all the times I've run H ToC (which is countless, I will tell you that), only once have I seen this drop; it dropped earlier today... everyone greed rolled, but luckily, I managed to win it.
评论来自
69947
How about DW'ing this as a muti rogue?..
Would that be better than having a faster
(lower dps)
dagger in offhand.
评论来自
268034
Accually this is pretty nice dagger if you are using 200iLvl ones such as
Direbrew Shanker 2.0
and
The Fleshshaper
this is way better, still idd dont use berseking enchant on it, a 50AP/Mongoose/26Agi is way more fit to that weapon, with probably using
Rusted Gutgore Ripper
as MH from Ony10 being able to put atleast 3.7k DPS buffed with a simple Horn of Winter, the high end-dmg is rediculusly high, near acctualy to the
Twin Spike
from TOC25 Normal and the
Furious Gladiator's Mutilator
wich appernetly isnt obtainable anymore so the only gladiator one beeing
Relentless Gladiator's Mutilator
.
评论来自
Turostin
Good for combat rogues?
评论来自
206792
I am duel wielding these on my mutilate rogue, upgrade from Webbed Death naxx25 and Titansteel shanker. needless to say its a welcome upgrade, and i'm about to be joining the uld/toc10 gruops in my guild thanks to the boost. (whenever i get a day off >.<)
评论来自
474215
how can this dagger possibly drop any less, been there 25 times now, and not one single drop, its insane!
评论来自
220744
Horrible, horrible drop rate.
Went 18 runs without seeing one, at which point I no longer needed it after getting 2 daggers from ToC10 and ToC25.
评论来自
481264
I'm not saying I'm having bad luck getting this so far, but all the casters in my guild want to run this with me because they know the Spectral Kris will drop and not the Rondel if I'm in the run... :)
评论来自
467007
Sorry to be that guy but..
I got two of these the first two times I did the instance.
lulz.
评论来自
391828
Hate to say it, but it dropped for me my first time in H-Toc
评论来自
Scifi42
Is This too slow for combat rogue ?..i got BRB tankard mace on MH..and need some good OH..will this suit ?
评论来自
163106
its been 15days of H ToC, and it still hasnt dropped :( poo
评论来自
292661
Heh got my first one today :)
Edge of ruin dropped on FC
Marrowstrike dropped on Confessor
Rondel off BK
Best run ever, let the hate ensue lol
评论来自
348759
got x2 of these on my assassin rogue in only 3 days :D
评论来自
206792
This dropped for me 2 days in a row on my rogue. Ive been countless times since then on both my rogue and pally, and havent seen it drop again. i didnt relpace them until the 232 daggers from fos/hor blood weeper
and unsharpened ice razor
item listed in next comment, i noobed up the link >.<
评论来自
206792
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50319
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50203
评论来自
MABGamer6407
The only 80 dagger of its model to not have Bite in its name. funny.
评论来自
vreemdevince
Seems the Lich King had his Black Knight run Throne of Thunder to gear up for the Tournament.
评论来自
Nerizor
This dagger has nothing in common with an actual Rondel dagger. A Rondel dagger was the most popular type of side-arm (or dagger, more specifically) for both civilians and men-at-arms in the late medieval period. It's a stabby McStab type dagger. It has a straight blade that usually comes with something like a triangular cross-section. It more often than not had unsharpened "edges" because it simply wasn't meant to cut things to begin with. You can think of the Rondel dagger as an oversized Icepick the length of your forearm. The purpose of its' design was penetration, it was designed specifically with anti-armour usage in mind. It won't stab through plate armour obviously, but it *will* stab through mail (aka chainmail) quite effectively. The way it tended to be used was very specifically in fights between people who had armour, meaning that it was specifically used while grappling with each other to aim at the gaps between the plates of the armour, such as armpits for example. It has this very specific shape to it (again, icepick) and also very specific utilities it shines in therefore. That said, it's not like it's only useful against armoured opponents - it was after all a dagger used by civilians as well, such as merchants. Bottom line is that it stabs quite effectively on other civilians or otherwise unsavory people as well.
But most importantly, there's not a single rondel dagger in the known universe that looked like this in-game knife. What is called the "Black Knight's Rondel" has zero in common with an actual rondel dagger. The blade shape, the hilt, the guard, the cross section of the blade etc, nothing fits the rondel dagger. Blizz are lazy and often call things inaccurately, but this takes it to a whole new level. This is a knife, not a rondel dagger at all.
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