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评论来自
84399
A spell fist weapon? My God... Druids and Elemental Shaman should be damn happy, so either blizz read my post on the suggestion forums or someone was thinking the same thing as me. WTG Blizz!
评论来自
Benegesserit
And here I though Blizzard was trying to REDUCE the amount of items that get DE'd.
评论来自
ExTheOne
This does indeed seem slightly odd. I can only imagine either the stats or the weapon type getting fixed in an upcoming patch.
评论来自
Keene
I don't think it kills anyone to have a single caster fist weapon, while it's really cool for those who can and will use it.
That being said, fist weapons do not show on character while not wielding them (at least in live, don't know if this will be changed for WLK, but I doubt it), so most of the time this weapon wouldn't be visible.
评论来自
116147
I'm a moonkin and I approve of this weapon.
评论来自
87458
while its great that this screams out moonkin and elemental shaman i do think this isnt going to be al that great.
i mean with this weapon only 2 classes can roll on it and benefit from it.
if this were a dagger alot more classes would benefit from it, sure youd have to roll/bid for it against other classes, but atleast it would be a reason to keep coming back.
even thoug im thrilled since im an elemental shaman myself.
i do not know 100% sure if this is a smart way of itemization.
评论来自
grimnos
from the look of this weapon i think it drops in the nexus
评论来自
Thirteenth
give warlocks Fist Weapons skill PLOX *_*
评论来自
47633
As a resto shaman this gives you almost every stat you'd want on a weapon.
With our talents in Wrath having a big benefit from crit, you'll want spellpower, haste, crit, Mp5, Stamina and Intellect.
This thing has all of them but the Mp5.
So, as a resto shammy, count me in on this. Finally, a fist weapon I can use to heal.
评论来自
morvain
Halo + Tempest Keep = Wraith Strike
Why am I being downrated for saying the truth, look at the graphics and you'll see what i'm talking about...
评论来自
151381
The design is really nice, it's like
Gohdan
from Legend of Zelda somehow had a child with Tempest Keep and made a fist weapon.
评论来自
Missingname
Sad for elemental shammy's they can't DW
评论来自
Mmaster
That fists looks absolutely fantastic. Beautiful weapon, and it's perfect for my Moonkin!
评论来自
Tarrek
Drops from
Maexxna
in Heroic Naxxramas.
评论来自
163908
Looks like a goldorak weapon, really transformer robots inspired.
Was this design allready included in the original naxx? Don't know but fits better the pink BC Draenai designs :/
评论来自
200743
Reminds me of Tron.
"Chance on hit: Launch a frisbee at the target."
评论来自
167664
Dropped our first week in naxx last week, ele sham got it. Dropped again this week and I got it, moonkin/resto druid. Such a sexy weapon. I like that its a spell fist weapon, gives us and shamans something unique over the other classes.
评论来自
265278
*moonkin with this weapon*
I got it a few hours ago... just been standing on the AH bridge, getting comments on it =P
评论来自
34640
Actually, dualwield gives 2x flametongue (=548 powerdmg) or 2x earthliving(=390powerhealing)
and offhand weapon (couple enha talents) can give like 30-40spellpower and haste, crit and stamina.
Its nise that they gave enhas little kind of spell buff; surely 195-274power selfbuff on OH beats some nasty shields?
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39140
评论来自
Rebi
Actually, dualwield gives 2x flametongue (=548 powerdmg) or 2x earthliving(=390powerhealing)
and offhand weapon (couple enha talents) can give like 30-40spellpower and haste, crit and stamina.
Its nise that they gave enhas little kind of spell buff; surely 195-274power selfbuff on OH beats some nasty shields?
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39140
This is probably not an enhancement shaman weapon. Also, it's a main-hand weapon, so as an enhancement shaman, you'd be losing a ton of dmg on your swings and stormstrikes. Leave this one for the elemental shaman and druids, Yrjoirmeli.
评论来自
261031
I just got this today... i was drooling when I saw it, i didn't even knew it existed!
We had me, resto shaman, and two resto druids. One of the resto druids already had the candle stick weapon and the other one had some random blue from a heroic or rep vendor loot. The second druid was QQed at by others for wanting to roll on it. Their reasoning was resto druids do not really need haste/crit... so I won it, i was quite happy...
To bad for the second druid, i wouldn't have mind if we rolled for it.
评论来自
292710
I don't know why anyone would say this isn't good for Druids. First of all, it's a fist wep with spell power, which means only a druid or shaman can even equip it. Yes, it is great for Boomkins, but what about Resto Druids? It's got a lot of spell power and haste. Sure crit is not as important for druids, but we still have casts that crit (healing touch, nourish, regrowth, final heal of lifebloom). I got this item as an upgrade over the War Mace of Unrequited Love (from heroic Nexus) and although I lost some MP5, my spell power shot up over 2k. I say its a free roll for anyone who can use it.
评论来自
shklj
Hmm it is good for resto druids and shamans but they have a lot of better options so please let us boomkins and elementals have this
评论来自
shklj
That warlock should be shot if there was a shaman or druid also needing it
评论来自
41873
Currently best in slot for Resto Shaman.
评论来自
148878
Just got this tonight from Gluth in 25 man Naxx and It's the best weapon for a resto druid in game atm i think. I can't stand using a staff, these weapons are only good for the spirit but they usually have lower spell power than a one-hand + off hand may offer.
This fist weapon is a great alternative to the Titansteel mace, which costs around 4k gold on my server atm ( Lightbringer EU)
评论来自
JoeHeff
To both of the 2 poster's above me... is this a hoax organized by resto druids/shaman everywhere are would you seriously take this over
Torch of Holy Fire
It seems silly to me, but maybe I just have no clue? From everything I've read, mana regen is the most heavily weighted stat, even more important for resto shaman and druids than in TBC...
评论来自
296641
Yea, i am a resto druid and there are plenty of better weapons for healing available. My brother has it (he's a boomkin, Delmkin on Area 52), and it's awesome for balance, but not so great for healing. Even if you are a nuke healer (meaning you could actually make use out of the haste and crit) it's alright, but it has no mp5 or spirit.
Mana Regen is crucial for the longer fights, some not so much but fights like malygos you will find yourself oom fast if your healing as much as you should be. I would never roll against a Boomkin or Elemental Shaman for this.
评论来自
301062
lol by the way this thing looks, it should shoot lasers as well =)
评论来自
Kaitain
The only problem i have with this weapon is that if you don't hold it out, it disappears completely. As does your offhand. So it looks like you have no weapon at all most of the time :-(
评论来自
161867
Sure there are tons of weapons meant for moonkins/elementals, but its unfair that clothys get to steal them all. If something has spirit its theirs, if it don't have any, its still theirs. This is the answer (the only answer in the years of WoW). It's about time too. (Now you just have to watch as healers steal it from you d'oh)
Probably best weapon you can actually get, minus the mace from (H) Kel'Thuzad, which considering all the classes rolling (holy pallys, all 3 priests , ele/resto shaman, moonkins, all 3 mages, destro/demon locks) you will never get it.
So this fist weapon is your 'sangraal'. Hunt it down and make it yours! (and btw, it does in fact shoot lazers O_o I can totally confirm this if I get it...)
评论来自
17778
which considering all the classes rolling (holy pallys, all 3 priests , ele/resto shaman, moonkins, all 3 mages, destro/demon locks)
Neither mages nor locks can use maces or fists. They're too busy catfighting over
The Turning Tide
, anyway. But point is still valid:
Heroic KT's 1H Mace
would perhaps best serve the raid's healers first, so this uber fist is a really nice option.
Equally-decent "pure dps" option to this fist:
KT's non-hero mace
.
Next up are probably the two spirit maces (since there's still some spell power kick from Spirit in addition to the regen), although the healers will get equal benefit from them:
Malygos non-hero mace
Loatheb/Gluth hero mace
Following that: the two +hit and +spirit daggers, but again you'll be fighting the other DPS casters for these edged beauties. But the healers should most likely take a back seat on these unless their heals are missing (yes, that was a joke). Flip side: if you're getting your hit cap from other sources, the itemization of the maces and this page's fist seem to be preferred. But if you're still shuffling gear for +hit:
KT non-hero dagger
Random heroic Naxx trash
(seeing both spirit and +hit on these seems really silly; would obviously rather see these items' budgets spent on haste or crit instead of spirit)
评论来自
148878
As far as i know, this is the only fist weapon in the game which is useful to druids. I was thinking that the ability to train fist weps was useless until this thing came out.
评论来自
42221
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7B23owqBK8
Video of the Model Graphic
评论来自
321581
As a resto sham ( on Hyjal), I would love this weapon. Forget the mace from Kel, I would sport this just because of the look and still have plenty of SP, Mp5, and a tiny bit more crit.
Solo healing reg VoA already so why not do it while shaking my fist!
评论来自
140323
I would have to say as a Elemental Shaman this is probably the best weapon in the game as of right now. Haste and crit on a weapon is always a good thing for a shaman. Boomkins need the same stats as ele shamans so they need this just as much. Seeing a resto druid roll on this over a boomking or ele is sad sometimes.
评论来自
176651
The last thing this game needs is a 6" foot owl runnin around with a glove that shoot lasers
评论来自
289655
they shouldnt .. i hate when all classes take weapon .. and what the deffirent between the fist or the mace ? all got spell power :)
评论来自
orsen
if you are going with a caster weapon you want as fast as possible. Yes you are losing your SS but with a fast caster weapon you will use FT/FT and the speed of the weapon is much more important. This is garbage for enhancement.
评论来自
190616
Would this also be good for a resto druid? since it had spell power and haste might be a good idea.
评论来自
327769
This weapon is actually not the best for resto druids....
The stat priorities should go ...
Mana regen is getting even more important for druids since they are reducing the mana regen of people who arent casting but are in combat, and druids are rarely casting.
Reason 1 - druids do not need haste nearly as much as shaman healers who are spamming the chain heals, most of the druids healing is coming from ticks from hots, TBH getting haste for just regrowth is a wasted stat, if u are having to use nourish then whoever your healing needs better gear or something, hots are easily enough with the occasional regrowth.
Reason 2 - Crit is only just better then haste, life blooms crits arent necessary for easy healing and you dont need to rely on swiftmend crits at all, regrowth already has atleast 50% crit with the talents ( obviously having higher crit with int and im gonna be realistic u cant get all your gear just SP and mp5 so you reach about 70% with a boomkin)
Reason 3 - No mp5... seriously no mp5...? druids spend alot of time as healers as the raid heals, which generally means that your healing all the time, this isent a bad thing it just utilizes the fact we can heal multiple people at once and our heals are cheap.
BTW im not just some idiot huntard speaking about stuff he knows nothing about, im a resto druid and from my experiences this is how the game goes.
评论来自
292710
He is asking if it is good, not if it is the best in slot.
RESTO DRUIDS
This item has no spirit or mana regen of any kind. Therefore, it is clearly not best in slot for a resto druid. However, it has 461 spell power, so it is clearly a viable healing weapon. The only weapon with more than that is the mace from KT on heroic. So, with that in mind, resto druids feel free to roll. Just remember that you will need to make up the regen in other places.
评论来自
shockumo
Flametongue Weapon: Bonus damage from spell power now based on weapon speed. Slower weapons will benefit more from spell power.
The newest PTR patch notes say that FT spell power will scale with weapon speed. The change was originally implemented to benefit enhance so that FT dmg will scale correctly with weapon speed. However the wording in the patch notes is a bit ambiguous. If in fact the SP bonus DOES scale with weapon speed, then this wep will be without a doubt the BiS for elemental shamans since it is a 2.6 speed weapon.
评论来自
297477
Picked this up as an Resto Shaman, as nobody else wanted it.
At first I was a little confused. A fist weapon? well it must be a dps item then. But then I started to warm to the stats: haste is nice, crit is OK, SP and INT and both welcome. All I lose is 15MP5 over my previous mace, somewhat mitigated by the extra INT.
If your a Resto Shammy dont let the fact that it's a first weapon or it's lack of MP5 put you off - esp if your not having trouble with mana.
Edit
Think of it as a slightly better allocated (and looking) alternative to Hammer of the Astral Plane.
评论来自
278195
It was mentioned, but just briefly, that this weapon is actually a great enhancement shaman mainhand.
Before you rip this post to pieces or mark it down, at least read on. The enhancement shaman totems (the item slot) available to buff windfury are horrible, being bested by the level 70 30badge of justice stonebreaker's totem. The glyph got nerfed awhile back, leaving windfury pretty dull.
In it's replacement however, it is feasible to pick up a mainhand caster weapon such as this for the mainhand and imbue it with flametongue, as well as a quick offhand like a dagger and imbue that with flametongue as well. With the 2x flametongues and this equipped, plus through talents and average naxx10 enhancement gear, a shaman should be able to get over 2000 spell power. Considering the huge bonus to the flametongue fire damage this does, as well as the attack speeds, plus the extra damage from magma totem, chain lightning, and earthshock, it more than makes up for the loss in windfury.
Here is a wowinsider article on this very matter. I find it particularly odd, because before I read the article, I had both wraith strike and murder on my shaman (shocknroll of sargeras), and both of them are mentioned in the same sentence. I decided to give it a go myself after reading, and it's okay. The huge bonus in spell damage through earth shock and chain lightning is very apparent, but also apparent is that maelstrom weapon procs slower without the windfury attacks. I suspect this is easily remedied by picking up a quicker caster weapon, like the torch of holy fire that the page describes.
http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/03/19/totem-talk-when-things-go-off-the-rails/
3.1 should put an end to this itemization.
评论来自
328708
The official Moonkin club glove!
Looking forward to see some more caster fist weapons since druids and shammies can't compete over those spectacular caster swords...
Not precisely excellent for healing, but i suppose its viable considering we don't see moonkins and ele shammies very often, at least in my realm. Also, it is unusual to find a weapon which wouldn't be massively rolled for by every other caster in the raid.
评论来自
Kokiron
I got this today, and my feathery moonkin self was very happy. Finally a useful fist weapon. Glad I trained fist weapons back in the day lol.
评论来自
nickwatson64
This weapon works great for enhancement shamans. Granted let your elemental and boomkins get it first. But after a few test this weapon actually is one the enchancement shamans top 5.
Also this works great in pvp, since the increase in spell damage rips DK and Pal apart.
Just repeating a good comment from orsin that was downrated by idiots
评论来自
203061
I've been dying to get this wep for my moonkin but the drop rate is pretty low - i done this on heroic pretty much every week for 2months and still no fist wep.unlucky i guess :(
i got it..but after i got plasma foil from 10man ulduar...
评论来自
Puchatek
HUNTER WEAPON!
评论来自
wildowned1995
Well, this fist weap is mostly used of healing / elemental shamans, and iv seen balance druids with it ( normal form ) that looks retarded like hell..seriously...! Shamans should have prio on it.
评论来自
Sador
Just for the record, this looks like a Borg implant if the druid is in Moonkin form. The opening is the same size as the moonkin's arm.
评论来自
231977
WTB Caster Axe for shammies/pallies next! :D
评论来自
422048
Really cool spell power/casting fist weapon. Got it a while ago on my Balance Druid. I love how it looks. i can definately see many mookins running around with this lol. All in all, a great weapon to use, as a mookin or a shammy.
评论来自
281730
Should restoration druids roll on against shamans or balance druids?
I always get upset when I lose this to a restoration druid ( I am a moonkin, so It's not that I don't understand them).
Okay crit, yes that can be useful. Nourish, regrowth, and lifebloom have the ability to critically heal.
Haste, that can lower GCD but that is not that useful for restoration druids compared to shamans or moonkins due to all the instants.
Now, the fact that it has no spirit makes it seem like this clearly isn't for restoration druids, shamans on the other hand don't get much out of spirit. Not saying that restoration druids can never roll on this, but shouldn't they be last on the priority list?
I think shamans and balance druids would be in the same place for this weapon, but when a restoration druid wins this I can't understand why because it seems mediocre for them.
评论来自
anonymousSnowman
I wish pally's could use fist weapons :(
评论来自
427223
This is the only fist weapon in the game designed for spellcasters.
评论来自
460863
According to
www.maxdps.com
, this has higher dps than Angry Dread for Enhancement Shamans. Still does not make ANY sense to me why, but I have my theories. I have been wearing it for some time now, and it did amazing for me. I had Wraith Strike MH and Angry Dread as my OH, and people would say I didn't know what I was doing. Then, when I dish out more damage than them, they just leave group.
Enhancement Shamans, do not pass on this! This is a great MH unless you get Calamaties Grasp in the same run, then pass to someone else.
:)
评论来自
370864
I've seen something similar before...
http://www.revolucaodigital.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/halo-3-needler.jpg
评论来自
370864
This is still good for enh shamans because a lot of your damage comes from lightning bolts
评论来自
Solarscar
cybertronian gauntlet
评论来自
Nynaeve
Along with many other fist weapons in the game, such as
Fist of Deity
,
Talon of the Pheonix
, and
Claw of Molten Fury
, this will become one-hand in MoP, and will finally be usable in either hand (and transmog to either hand).
Hopefully this means there will be a) one handed caster weapons again and b) More caster fist weapons! /fingerscrossed
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