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评论来自
237463
These are absolutely perfect for and Enhancement shaman.
231 Attack power total from these.
I can't wait to get into heroics again.
评论来自
21900
Extremely good for Hunters of all specs. Loads of DPS stats with no junk, and lots of agi. Better than T7 gloves IMO.
评论来自
naughtynildo
Zivadira is absolutely correct. A large number of mail pieces have cropped up with haste and armour pen and for some reason there has been a large backlash against these two stats by hunter players. The fact is per item budget point both produce better DPS than crit, and with the coming nerf to steady shot lowering the value of AP and (to a lesser extent, since agility = AP and crit) agility, armour pen and haste will become per item point even better value to stack.
In fact per item point armour pen has the single best return in DPS, unless the target has been hit with other penning abilities (sunder etc) in which case haste is the highest.
When we get hit with the nerf bat in 3.08 the gap between these stats and the rest will only widen....
评论来自
Bloodanger
In my opinion this is better then the t7 gloves for MM Hunters.
With these you gain:
17 Agi
16 AP
36 Crit
But you lose:
4 int
26 Armor Pen
35 Haste
1 Socket.
评论来自
naughtynildo
I have read a similar article on a different site, and the article is definitely correct in some points. Firstly, when a warrior is dropping sunders arpen is less affective, and secondly it is true that the less armour a mob packs the less armour is penned, since arpen now ignores a percentage of a mobs armour, not a flat rate.
But note what I said, exactly. Every stat contributes to an item's budget, so we need to consider how much value has for it's budget cost on an item. Also notice, as I said, AP and agi are en route to a nerf for hunters. So that leaves crit, haste and arpen (after hitcapping of course) as better value stats to stack. As far as item budget is concerned, arpen will produce a better return than crit, and as a previous poster mentioned, for a BM hunter, haste as well.
The article that you have referred to doesn't show the mathematics behind how arpen works. I wont show all the details, though a link will be provided below for the interested reader. As a very rough guide, on a mob with 13k armour, the first 15.39 arpen (or 1% armour reduction) will increase net DPS by around .47%. Consider gemslots. If you pop in a 16 crit rate gem you will get a .3485% crit increase. But that crit increase wont equal .3485% DPS, as crit rating only boosts damage on your percentage of non crit attacks. Of course this is again very simplified, hunters with talent points in mortal shots, gfft etc will get more out of crit than hunters without, but the DPS boost is still less than arpen.
Ok, so what about when a warrior has performed a sunder armour technique? Arpen looks less effective now, right? True, now it only increases DPS (15.39 rating again) by about .38%. But that isn't the whole story.
Consider this: firstly, rare quality armour pen gems are 16 rating, not 15.39, so they are more effective than the raw numbers above, secondly, as many people are aware, arpen does not stack in a linear fashion, unlike crit rating. So by the time you are capable of penning about 20% mob armour (sounds like a lot, but not hard to achieve with T7 gear, titanium impact band, red gems, vereesa's chain belt and pack ice strider boots) you have boosted net DPS by almost exactly 11% (or .55% per 15.39 rating), and a sundered opponent by 8.2%. By comparison, the equivalent number of points in crit rating (or 308) will give a crit increase of 6.71%. As previously mentioned, that crit increase does not equal net DPS, in reality it will be a little lower.
The actual damage mechanics for arpen can be found at
http://www.qqpewpew.com/2008/12/01/revisiting-armor-penetration-in-wrath
.
That site also does not look so favourably on the arpen, but doesn't consider the value of arpen on a point per point basis vs other stats.
I hope this answers any questions or criticisms of my prior post.
NB my appalling spelling is the reason for so many edits on this post
评论来自
185623
I have ran heroic VH at least 10 times now and have yet to see these drop, bad luck i suppose... :(
评论来自
275363
It is really great for enhancement shamans... cant wait to get it!
评论来自
43726
These gloves are easily accessible to enchance Shamans and hunters, as Violet hold is one of the popular heroic, conveniently located in Dalaran. In my onpinion, these are even better than what you can purchase with the T7 glove token
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39601
.
Item is a close tie with
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39194
. I guess choice depends if you need this one to cap your hit, also socket gives extra flexibiliy.
Compare all 3 @
http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=37886;39194;39601
Only the T7.5 token
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40629
dropped by Sartharion in 25 man OS allows for an upgrade, with the Valorous Earthshatter Grips
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40520
With T7.5 -->
http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=40520;37886;39194;39601
评论来自
324997
Yea it was a pritty nice upgrade on my survival hunter took me a couple trys to get it though. Yeah I didnt notice that it was a little better then T7 kind of weard for a heroic epic lol :-)
评论来自
312037
nice epic hands for a heroic. i just received these in h violet hold on my shaman, seeing as i was the only mail wearer i chose to take it for an offspec (im resto right now). After i ran a few heroics i got a few badges and some nice gear for enhance. Im on the merge of farming enhance gear, used to be my favorite spec pre wotlk because it owned face. looking forward to using these gloves, perfect stats for a hunter or shaman. Or.....anything that could use it as an upgrade.....
评论来自
318373
Awesome set of hands.....not just for shamans or hunters either...these gloves rock for a fury warrior....I wouldn't roll over either shammy or hunters for them (I got mine on a run without either class) but if they pass, jump on them.
^^^You must be having a bad string of luck...I've seen them drop quite often.
评论来自
121958
As an added class, retribution paladins may take a great interest into this type of gear.
As it stands, I currently have these on my retribution paladin (as nothing better have dropped thus far) and they give:
520 HP
510 Mana
132 Attack Power
2.03% Crit Chance
Pretty much perfect stats for what retribution paladins need.
评论来自
313668
Sick of waiting for these to drop I've been doing loads of runs
评论来自
341370
I got this gloves on the first time i did VH i have had luck in hc so far they are so cool drop for a hc... I was ready to change em with the token of OS 25 but my 99 need roll was overuled by the last guy 100 roll :( anyway this are cool too
评论来自
Narielm
HUNTER ITEM -There i said it-
评论来自
471959
I built a transmog set from these for my Nelf hunter as follows:
Helm:
风暴大师头盔
- 260 JP in Shattrath
Shoulders:
闪电反射护肩
- crafted by Leatherworkers (BoP)
Back:
守护者的御寒斗篷
- 579 JP in Dalaran & Icecrown Citadel
Chest:
游侠将军的胸甲
- Dropped by Hydross the Unstable in Serpentshrine Cavern
Chest Alt:
金色治疗胸甲
- Dropped by Anetheron in Hyjal Summit
Shirt:
黑丝衬衣
- Crafted by tailors
Gloves:
凶残使者护手
- Dropped by Cyanigosa in Heroic Violet Hold
Belt:
挚友腰带
- Dropped by Warmaster Blackhorn in Dragon Soul (10/25 man normal)
Legs:
防传染护腿
- Dropped by Trollfore in Normal Drak'Tharon Keep
Boots:
止水长靴
- Dropped by Rage Winterchill in Hyjal Summit
Ranged:
蛛魔杀手
- Dropped by Captain's Chest in Halls of Reflection
Put together they look like this:
http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=32086:32575:50466:30054:4333:37886:77241:35619:30873:49844;30887
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耐久: 55 / 55
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