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评论来自
156400
Awesome model on this baby.
评论来自
55056
Currently drops from from Violet Hold (heroic) from Cyanigosa, the last boss.
It matches the Spirit of Competition pet from the 2008 Summer Olympic Games PvP event, for those of you who like to accessorize!
评论来自
Mihir
Best pre-raid dps staff in WotLK.
评论来自
Djuntas
This is a must have for any seroiusly Feral druids for pre-raiding.
Would say this beats the feral weapon from naxx aswell at the moment making this even more wanted. Maybe they will add something stats, when armor is removed from staffs, so naxx staff will be better ? Who knows :)
And wowhead is rigth about the rather low drop %. Quit rare drop
评论来自
reidsb
The mongoose enchant looks amazing on this weapon.
评论来自
avrillapete
Actually, no it is not.
Armor
We are changing the way bear armor works so that bonus armor on items does not receive the bear armor multiplier. Specifically this means that trinkets, rings, necks and cloaks with bonus armor will not be multiplied by the bear bonus. The normal armor on leather will still be multiplied by this bonus.
We are also going to remove bonus armor from Feral staves.
You’ll get your bonus armor from the leather you acquire.
Examples:
* 1) A ring that grants 100 bonus armor will now grant a bear 100 armor (not ~470 armor).
* 2) Leather legs with 253 armor will still grant a bear ~1190 armor (not 253 armor).
*
3) A feral staff will now grant 0 armor.
Source
评论来自
vvg125
Once the patch to remove armor from feral weapons comes out, this will in fact be better than
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39255
(raid drop from Naxxramus) for both tanking and DPS.
Not only does it have greater strength, it only lacks 2 stamina in comparison and the rest of the stats are identical. Definitely an ideal weapon pre-raid for any feral druid.
评论来自
259036
I've done violet hold about 10 times now, this baby hasn't dropped =\
评论来自
106434
Just dropped for me today. /need
Crazybear has need rolled 1
StupidHuntard has need rolled 4
Crazybear: Why did you need? =/
StupidHuntard: I'm bm
Crazybear: What...?
StupidHuntard: I need more feral AP for my pet duh.
Crazybear: .../facepalm
Fail. Will try again tomorrow. On a side note, wicked staff and with the removal of armor on other staff this one is a keeper well into Naxxramas.
评论来自
278477
Any hunter who might have looted this item have done the right thing as this item will no longer be druid-only weapon in 3.0.8
According to MMO-Champion, many items are redesigned to fit other classes needs aswell, Staff of Trickery will become:
358 - 537 damage
186.5 DPS
89 Agility
133 Stamina
Equip: Increases attack power by 180
So a very desirable weapon for hunters as well. Will definitely pick this one up if it drops even before the patch.
评论来自
242163
picked mine up last night as a hunter.
now to wait for the patch
评论来自
161800
I seriously doubt that the drop rate is 20%...
Ran this 14 times already...
no staff :(
评论来自
exShinra
Current stats on the PTR
Staff of Trickery
Bind when picked-up
Two Hand Staff
358-537 Damage Speed 2.4
(186.5 damage per second)
Requires Level 80
89 Agility
133 Stamina
Equip: Increases your attack power by 180
As compared to Runeblade from Ebon Blade (Which most hunters at this point have)
Runeblade of Demonstrable Power
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Sword
474 - 711 Damage Speed 3.50
(169.3 damage per second)
+63 Agility
Durability 100 / 100
Requires Level 80
Requires Knights of the Ebon Blade - Revered
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 67 (1.46% @ L80).
Equip: Improves haste rating by 33 (1.01% @ L80).
Equip: Increases attack power by 168.
Upgrading to this over the runeblade will give you
+133 Stamina
+26 Agility
+12 Attack Power
-33 Haste
-67 Critical strike rating
Not bad.
评论来自
275480
nice staff. ive been after this for over 2 weeks and have not seen it drop once.
hoping patch will come soon. i think im gonna go with the titansteel destroyer instead.
i dont think i can cope with another vh run, even though its really easy :<
评论来自
273471
Can anyone confirm whether or not the amount of AP that ferals get from SoT remains the same after the upcoming changes?
评论来自
40449
Reference can be made to Loki the Norths' god of Trickery , who has often been curved in wooden figures and in many scriptures has been drawn with a green light glowing out of his eyes.
评论来自
303090
Actually as a feral druid - by Blizz removing strength and replacing it with x2 AP (which is what most classes get as a conversion) but because ferals have talents that improve that ratio you are losing approx .5 AP per point of Strength. So for this Staff you are going to lose about 45 AP. You can read all the theory behind this on EJ.
评论来自
toastmaster7727
New stats as of patch 3.0.8:
Staff of Trickery
Soulbound
Two-Hand Staff
358 - 537 Damage Speed 2.40
(186.5 damage per second)
+89 Agility
+133 Stamina
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 80
Equip: Increases attack power by 1843 in Cat,
Bear, Dire Bear, and Moonkin forms only.
Equip: Increases attack power by 180.
评论来自
97468
droped for me(dps cat) and it boosted my dps for 240.ONLY FOR DRUIDS.After all we have only staffs and maces.Give us a break hunters,you can dual weild.(With new patch i think druids will wear polearms too).
评论来自
whiplashmtb
No self respecting hunter would dual weild because you don't get enough stats from it compaired to a 2her
Not Necessarily. It really depends on what stat you're looking for.
When Raiding I roll with 2
Fangs of Truth
to get my +Hit up. When Just starting out in Naxx, you can slap a couple of
Titanium Weapon Chains
(for the +28 hit each) on them and Voila.. You're pretty dang close to the Hit-cap.
Find me a 2h weapon with +122 Hit rating.
But, once you're hit-capped via other methods than your weapon, this staff is wonderful.
评论来自
225010
hi guys i'll icud'nt believe my eyes when this staff dropped im a hunter (boathed) i just got looted this
rather epic looking staff and im currently using it now as it it the best prob the best pre-raid spec wep u cant ill submit a screenie as proof.the reason i using it is when it dropped it didnt hav the druid stats on the just the attack power and the agi and stami
评论来自
Netheral
I would really like to hear from the druids on this, since patch 3.0.8 is here, do you think that a hunter is allowed to roll against a druid on this staff? I'ts pretty obvious ofcourse that it is a viable weapon for a hunter now, but if it drops and there is a feral druid and a hunter in the group, wich one should get priorities?
评论来自
Thrakin
I'd rather ask; If a hunter polearm dropped now, would a druid roll on it? Stop all the 'druids first' or 'huntards first' crap; We share weapons now. We haven't been 'allowed' to use druid weapons; Blizzard has done away with Feral AP. Get over it.
That being said, by all means (BOTH hunters and druids) go for it. It's a great weapon.
评论来自
310451
Greeded on this item, there were no druids in our group.. was pleasantly surprised at the stats on this item for a hunter. There are certainly better hunter melee weapons, but this is still exceptional. I would have passed had there been a druid, so it was my lucky day.
评论来自
222908
best pre raid hunter weapon as of patch 3.0.8
评论来自
Morthor
I have done around... 20 runs on Violet Hold, and the Staff simply will not drop for me. With a 20% drop chance, it should have dropped by now. Sorth of getting tired of doing the same instance over and over again, aldready have all the possible acheivements in it.
评论来自
222908
currently all druid staves have become amazing for hunters, this is on par with black ice, 20 less agi yet 50 more ap, surv will take black ice over this but it is only a minor upgrade
评论来自
168440
I'm one of the hunters who have admitted, that, from now on, we'll have to share weapons like these with druids, so, I wouldn't really cry if a druid needed this staff.... But i'm crying because a dw Fury Warrior needed on this too and i lost it, after doing 20 times this heroic... Can someone explain the reason to me, because i cant see any.... they apparently cant dw staves and they dont even need that load of agi to anything except crit...
评论来自
Danaan
The same here. I am on run number 12, no stave at all. What makes me cry is the increasing number of hunters wielding this nice baby.
Did they lower the drop rate? I need this badly!
When my paladin hit 80 i saw the stave dropping on two consecutive days. But it had never dropped since then.
评论来自
177635
I don't know what it is, but when I had this staff, it did
not
have the druid AP.
评论来自
244366
If you are a post 3.08 Survival Hunter and have 3/3 in Hunter vs. Wild you will gain another +30AP from the 102 Stamina for you and your pet: "Increases you and your pet's attack power and ranged attack power by 30% of your stamina." Not forgetting the bonus 15% mutiplier of AGI by having 5/5 in Lightning Reflexes. I have the Runeblade of Demonstrable Power equipped now but would roll on this weapon.
Probably wouldn't roll against a Feral Tank though. My main is a Prot Warrior and I root that healers and tanks get priority on useful drops.
:D
评论来自
282837
50+ runs in heroic VH and not yet seen it, anyone have a rough estimate on the droprate?
评论来自
261715
sadly now every feral staff is also perfect for hunters, anyone who disagrees is a noob because these have the highest AP that you can get pre raids, perfect hunter stats, so druids and hunters get an even roll on this
评论来自
Aezur
Went for the daily today when this thing dropped. Needless to say, my druid was pretty happy and wasn't really expecting an upgrade.
Well, long story short, the dps warrior rolled a 56 and I rolled a 47.
I mentioned something about it in trade and actually got quite a few tells going "u mean hunters?"
No guys, I mean warriors.
评论来自
71051
Screw hunters, they have excessive options for weapons, what I would like to see is for them to finally give druids itemisation on weapons.
You say, "Hit, expertise, armor pen, hello Blizzard?"
Blizzard pats you on the head fondly and adds another 2 points of stamina and sends you on your way.
评论来自
326319
Saw a mage using this weapon today in a naxx 25 man pug. :(
评论来自
336325
This is also great pre-raid for a Surv hunter with points in Hunter vs. Wild. Also, i have this on my hunter because he is pvp and the stam is very yummy for that as well.
评论来自
337106
This dropped on my second VH run. xD I was so excited!
I slapped a +AP enchant on it and ba-bam.
评论来自
part7
This item has been disenchanted 666 times.
i loled
评论来自
Hannibal08
I've killed Cyanigosa 20 times in Heroic VH and never seen this. I have to say, it's more than just a little annoying. That's pretty excessive for something that is one of four items that can drop each time in an instance that you can only do once each day.
Also, how do the rates here even make sense? She drops an epic every time, one of four, but they each drop 1/5th of the time? So what happens for that other 1/5th?
It's anecdotal, I know, but it seems the epic weapons that can drop are much rarer than the other three epics that heroic end bosses can drop. I helped a friend with the tanking sword in H UP. It took 15 runs to see the first one drop. I have only seen the healer mace in Nexus, the crossbow in UK and the fist weapon in CoS one time each. Granted, I haven't done those three instances quite as much as VH and UP, but the weapons look to have lower drop rates based on my limited data set. I also realize that I am probably statistically very unlucky with this staff, but it doesn't make it any more annoying when another epic gets DE'd at the end of the daily VH run and I still haven't seen a staff drop to even lose the roll on. Then I walk into Dalaran and see them on hunters all over the city. Druids too, I am sure, but they're often shifted, so I don't see them as often.
评论来自
164392
Dropped for me yesterday on my first heroic run in VH. Great survival hunter stats. We had no druid in group, but i would have rolled need anyway.
评论来自
agentex50
i got this on....an extremely glitchy run. about 2 portals in, a dragonkin got stuck in the ground. we couldn't target him, so we have our 80 DK DPS keep the endless adds from getting to the door.Xevozz was annoying, but we did it. second boss was Zurumat, and i died but everyone else managed to live. after this we had our 80 pally DPS switch places with the DK, Cyanigosa spawned, and she went down faster then Xevozz. All that time we had someone on the glitched portal, and the prison door only got to 36%. much much fun and hysteria!
we had a resto druid in the group, but he had naxx10/25 gear and gave me permission to take it. i AM a huntard! not all huntards are ninjas, most of us are just plain idiots who would roll on the Cleaver from H HoL over a TG warr ( which is unforgivable). you can usually tell if a hunter will need on tank weaps, because they pass on everything else, then claim it was an 'accident' which is also just plain BS. all in all a great hunter weap, but if a druid doesnt have better, he should have the right to rip out your throat if you roll on it XD
评论来自
Diodor
I did this instance 15 days in a row and staff still didnt drop. Im one sad feral druid :(
评论来自
Okacz
I heard an opinion that this item is better then Black Ice from Malygos, cuz it gives overall more AP. Ok, but hunter with 5k ap ub and, for example, 25% crit and 100 hit rating is not rly good. Too many huntas feel that AP is the only thing they need. But this staff is still good.
评论来自
242632
I wish there were more hunter staffs...
评论来自
157377
Currently the lvl 80 epic disenchanted most :P
评论来自
251364
and how about druid tanks?
评论来自
Villordsutch
Got mine today after passing on the first drop I saw.
About the 8th VH Heroic, and I made it clear as I walked in the only thing I will need on will be the Staff on the last mob. All where fine with that even the druid.
An excellent group who destroyed the room.
I just need to find a good enchant for it.
评论来自
223879
I have run H VH every day for a month. This staff is the ONLY THING that hasn't dropped. Last night my buddy ran it on his alt and the staff dropped. I'm !@#$ed.
评论来自
252338
the staff is the best for hunters pre naxxs hands down.......i would also say that his is a fine weapon for a feral druid as well......and if a staff dropped druid/hunter would roll and i know druids roll on polearms because i saw a feral druid the other day with black ice
评论来自
376000
Great for hunters and very easy to get too :)
评论来自
93550
Could also be a viable 2h weapon for an enhancement shaman to play with in pvp for big windfury crits.
EDIT: Got this upon a heroic VH run after posting this. Its high end damage is too low, and speed too fast and didn't produce crits as high as the 2H mace from Argent Crusade that I was using for pvp fun.
评论来自
supercrem9
I saw a warrior on my server dual-weilding this and titansteel destroyer today. I thought, at first, "OMG!WARR WITH HUNTER/DROOD STAFF?WTF?" Then i thought a little bit more...this has agil stam and att power, well wars use weapons that dont str on them sometimes but instead have agil and att power, like runeblade of demonstrable power and Black Ice. So...would this actually be good for a warrior?
评论来自
223389
The most disenchanted epic in WotLK
评论来自
311932
i just recently dinged 80 on my first and only character, a feral kitty druid, first heroic i ran was H VH, the warrior tank said something about that staff and how if it drops i should need it, it dropped :)
it was a ood day that day
i showed it to everybody in my guild and my friends, they love it, and me. great day great day
i also got what a druid tank told me was best pre naxx tanking bracers, bindings of the tunneler if i remember right, still good feral cat peice
评论来自
307113
now there is a way better weapon for hunters
the Marrowstrike. it gives way more stats, gives more agility and a bit of stamina and AP is lost but you gain a yellow socket crit raiting and armor pen.
Marrowstrike drops in ToC (Heroic) from the Priestess (2nd boss) half the time she shows up thoe
评论来自
541369
After reading all of this I can't believe how lucky I am. This was the first ever Heroic I've done with my first and only 80 hunter and nobody wanted it. Still debating whether or not I want to change out of my twin Fangs of Truth without having more hit points to back me up. Keep em in reserve I guess....
评论来自
Sinopa
Is this one better than
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49793?
Because I did not think so, but i never hear people saying anything about tower of the mouldering corpse and they recommend staff of trickery to me when it drops.... i'm a feral dps druid btw.
Edit: no idea how to correctly link it....
评论来自
602336
got mine today. according to many others its a good preraid staff for druids AND hunters. i went specifically for this staff and passed on all other BoP stuff. a DK got $%^&ed off since i need rolled for it after i asked the group. no one but him objected and there wasnt even a druid in the group. not sure why he wanted it, i guess he needed the gold? he may be from the old school where only druids used staves like this...unless DKs like to use staves to?
BTW - tower of the moldering corpse is better than this one.
评论来自
533106
ok.....i just got this staff yesterday...and i did pull need on it to get it...it was a huge upgrade to the whalestick harpoon i got from the kulak...and the 180 attack power coupled with the greater savagery i added to it gave me a total of 265 attack power. as a beastmaster hunter this will add significantly to my pets attack also. I will also state that this is the first weapon i have had drop that was even remotely viable to have for my guy. the feral attack power buff i could not see so i grabbed it. I know many people will say that beastmasters aren't even viable ....but i am having fun with him and my pets enjoy 4 extra points to use in thier pet talents. There was a druid in the group but i saw that he had chose disenchant for the staff.....so it's not like I was stealing an important weaon from anyone....yaay for me
评论来自
Porcorosso
This will be an amazing Transmog item for a monk.
评论来自
NatyNat
After months of having this staff as my x-mog, I just now found out it looks like a panther / cat. If you turn your camera view to where it's facing your character's left shoulder, you should see it too.
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