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评论来自
72744
While it is true you can't always take 8 seconds out of a fight to regen mana, there are occasions where there's a lull in the battle (like some of the phase changes in the Illidan Stormrage encounter) where you could stand there and regen with this trinket. Added to your base regeneration, you might be able to save yourself a mana potion or 2 each encounter.
In addition, you could use spell haste to speed up the channeling process, particularly with the new season 4 weapon,
Brutal Gladiator's Swift Judgement
, which you could swap in on the fly.
And even without the regen effect, 119 is still among the highest +healing bonuses you'll find on a trinket. I'd venture to say it's probably the best counterpart to the
Memento of Tyrande
a non-alchemist can get.
评论来自
Astana
This trinket can be only remotely useful if the channeled effect couldn't be interrupted of if you can find a time where you won't take damage and you can channel this :3
Memento of Tyrande (Each time you cast a spell, there is chance you will gain up to 76 mana per 5 for 15 sec) so perfect 8 times due to 45 second internal CD (228 mana*8 = 1824 mana)
3 Mana potions with Redeemer's Alchemist Stone (Basing that since mana potions are from 1800-3000 mana for TC sake let's say 2400 mana) 3360 per pot x3 = 10080
So subtracting 7200 from 10080 gives back 2880mana.
Same +heal effect with a passive mana regen effect. Of course, both Memento and Redeemer's Alchemist Stone's +mana return goes up as the fight duration goes up. Let's say KJ is oh, 15-20 minutes like Illidan.
You can use this trinket 3-4 times in KJ. (6000-8000).
Memento would return 228 mana*~27 = 6156mana in a 20 min setting. 228mana*20=4560 mana in a 15min setting.
Redeemer's Alchemist Stone 10 mana potions in a 20 min fight 3360*10 = 33600 subtracting 24000 from mana potions it would make the mana return 9600. 15 min fight 7 mana potions 3360*7=23520 subtract 16800 would give you 6720 mana.
Now this trinket is clearly superior to Memento if you can find a time when you aren't taking damage to channel it for it's full effect.
评论来自
Darkling5499
Dropped for <Vicarious> of Area 52 the other night. the on-use effect (the channel) is called "Evocation", like the mage ability, and scales with spell haste. Damage does NOT shorten the time for the channel at this moment.
评论来自
11242
Got the trinket yesterday. The on-use effect scales with spell haste gear (and probably anything that increases haste). You get the same amount of mana, but faster.
Regarding the pushback, I am losing cast time (and thus mana) from being hit in melee. Moving or being stunned or knocked around also interrupts it completely. For druids, barkskin can protect against pushback. Pummel does not interrupt the cast (and I am assuming counter-spell or anything like it won't either). It is cancelled if you cast another spell.
The animation is the same as evocation for mages.
评论来自
145803
great for a paladin/shaman stacking haste. Lets say the trinket holder had 325 spell haste it would then take them~6.627--with bloodlust a mere 4.63 seconds to finish the normally 8 second cast. It will reduce the need on so many pots, and if you are like me who doesn't want to switch to alchemy be nice as well.
评论来自
97145
This would be a great item for a druid that itemizes spirit, while channeling this you get alot more mana than just the 250 per second due to being out of combat.
评论来自
carfo
the two best trinkets in the game right now are
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32496:
Memento of Tyrande
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35750:
Redeemer's Alchemist Stone
If you don't have either one of these then the Glimmering Naaru Sliver is an upgrade.
Also, something of note is that +spell haste shortens the duration of the channel effect. I'm at 232 spell haste unbuffed and the trinket is 6.97 cast time.
评论来自
91481
A fight that allows you to go 7-8 seconds without taking damage or doing healing will probably not be one that priests or druids will have mana issues on anyways. So, probably better for paladins or shamans, but as mentioned above I see those 2 trinkets as top of the line for them as well.
评论来自
143992
Since it has 5 min cooldown you will be only able to use it most likely one time for each boss.
Speaking about sunwell bosses:
- Kalecgos: This is about how your guild does it but you should be able to do it in the demon realm, not if you're one of the first healers in there tho.
- Brutallus: It's the only boss i see with timing problems for this trinket, guess you won't be able to full channel.
- Felmyst: Use at the end of any of the air phases, the best time will be when the third breath have been just casted and you're on safe spot waiting for the dragon to land.
- Twin Eredar: Use at the very beginning of phase 2 (if your guild kills it in reverse mode should be no problem at all).
- M'uru: Use at the very beginning of phase 2.
- Kil'jaeden: Can be used when you're under the shield orb waiting for KJ ultimate.
Keep in mind haste affects it so the 8secs might go down to 5-6sec~~ if you more or less have all the haste items from sunwell (tier pieces and random pieces such as chests, gloves, legs...).
评论来自
Therulnig
I don't understand this Trinket. It is the highest iLvl healing trinket in the game.
It is iLvl 154, and has the same +heals as an iLvl 125 trinket (Redeemers).
Which means they have to rate the on Use effect as being a good bit more itemization than the 40% from potions?
Neither of them will be used at full potential anyway - You don't always chain chug pots, and if you have a full 8 secs to waste channeling you aren't having mana problems anyway (Overkill outside the five second rule regen due to 2.4 regen changes)
评论来自
142360
With 300 haste rating the channeling time is ~ 6.47 seconds for me as a resto shaman, I find this utterly useless in the last 3 encounters in SWP, there's simply not enough time to use its full potential.
I'm currently using the 40 spell haste trinket and the alchemy stone, will go for Memento of Tyrande when it drops and replace it with the Battlemaster trinket.
The only useage for this trinket would be in PvP in my opinion.
评论来自
Catria
As a resto druid, I use this trinket on Kil'jaeden every week. There are several opportunities to use it, especially during shadow spikes and under the bubble. Also, this trinket goes a long way to offer regen when you're using haste gear. I run ~200 haste on KJ and it kills my regen, but using this and the alch's stone with mad alchemist's pots is awesomely powerful.
评论来自
56783
I agree this trinket doesn't get spam-based healers such as shamans and paladins excited, the other classes do however have more freedom on when to pause casting because they can either burst heal better (priests) or use hots to cover for the duration (druids).
That being said i believe every healing class can make use of the regen portion of the trinket, but if you disagree, you can simply pass on it and use trinkets better suited to your own playstye. I'm sure that there are other players in your guild that wouldn't mind getting their dirty little hands on it.
In regards to the ilevel argument, i'm of the opinion that the itemlevel isn't worth looking at. The item designers have a lot of freedom in the interpretation of these points, and every class benefits more or less from each particular item, so these points don't offer you any insight of how much the item will do for YOU.
评论来自
57406
With the 3.0 potion combat lockout, this will be a very nice alternative to mana potions.
评论来自
jeffmd
With the nerf to pots in 3.0, I picked this up to replace my alch stone (healer). I lose a little bit of mana off my pots but now I get 2 pots per fight (or more if its longer then 5 minutes). I am also much more inclined to click this during chain trash pulls instead of wasting expensive pots. Also some people have said this is worse then the memento, I don't see how. I did the math and in 5 minutes in a perfect world you can proc the memento up to 6 times. Thats 1368 mana. The sliver gives 2000 mana every 5 minutes. You do need to manually channel the sliver from 6-8 seconds (partial gains if you have to interupt so its not an all or nothing), but theres also a low chance you will get 4 procs let alone 6 of the memento. And I generaly have no problem finding a few seconds to squeeze it off some where. It becomes even easier when I go oom and am forced to stop casting. :)
As a priest I think the sliver and earring are the best 2 trinkets I can get.
Also its no longer a healer trinket, this will serve my quite well in shadow spec, as well as any other DPS. Stoping nukes for 6-8 seconds (or less, I know some dps classes stack haste like crack) for 2k mana recharge, and its got a great spellpower number on it.
评论来自
286465
I see some of the top end raiding guilds still using this since the nerf to pots happened. I'm not sure if this would be more effective than say a trinket with a high Mp5. But I am considering going back to Sunwell to farm one of these up for testing.
评论来自
29078
I still use this trinket, have cleared all content incl. Sartharion w/ 2 drakes
While a trinket with some mana regen might be better overall on paper, when you're out of mana, you're out of mana, you can either wait for your mp5 to tick enough that you have something to heal with, or you hit this trinket and you heal a little bit more for that 1% kill.
For the time being, it's staying in it's place, especially for long fights
评论来自
Legovlas
Well if you look at that spell which gives you mana u see that its Evocation. And in that case does this work with Glyph of Evocation?
评论来自
308820
As a level70 Shadow Priest Twink, I have found that you can in fact use this trinket while in dispersion, quite useful for a big chunk of mana if you're ever in need of one.
评论来自
Syluxx
1) Get this trinket
2) Queue for arena
3) "HAX!", trolololo.
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