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6918
Questable
Briarwood Reed
.
edit: Quest chain starts with
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=5083
and appears to be worth a total of 45600 XP excluding kills. If you plan to get this for 59 PVP you should start working on it as soon as you can. (You can start the quest at 52, but it might be possible to loot the flask before that.)
评论来自
5286
More than likely involves killing
High Chief Winterfall
.
评论来自
Sgtown
but where is it from!?!?! And will the quest be doable on a lvl49? :O
评论来自
Nazgrol
obvious upgrade is
Mark of Defiance (A)
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27922
or
(H)
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27924
评论来自
43502
With regards to utility, I'm wondering about the staying power of this trinket. As a 62 shadow priest, I already have
Mark of Defiance
, and I'm thinking about going back to Winterspring to get this trinket to replace Vengeance of the Illidari
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28040
because spell crit is not a terrific stat for me and the effective +damage of the Illidari trinket is 20 if you use it everytime the CD is up.
I think it comes down to a preference between passive stats and on use abilities. If you don't mind using trinkets when their CD is up, then the Illidari trinket isn't a bad option for you.
评论来自
70009
I don't mean to stray far from talking about this trinket, but in order to compare it effectively to other options, I feel that a bit of explanation is in order. Technically speaking, if you are casting 100% of the time for an amount of time such that the cooldown finishes but you cannot use it again (or perhaps an infinite amount of time), then yes the
Vengeance of the Illidari
would yield less damage over all than this trinket, but for most situations, the Vengeance of the Illidari will give a similar average +damage which may be higher or lower depending on the exact situation.
Say for example you are questing and popping
Vengeance of the Illidari
every time it's up. Due to down time in casting from looting, running, and other things you may be doing, you will have the trinket active for a higher percentage of your casts than if you were DPSing a raid boss. If it takes you ~20 seconds to kill a mob and then an average of ~10 seconds to run to it, loot it, recover via eating, drinking, or bandaging if needed, find another mob to kill, and reach that mob, you will find that
Vengeance of the Illidari
will add an average of 30 +damage.
The concept holds true in instances as well due to down time in between pulls and variable fight lenghs. When comparing 'on use' trinkets to passive trinkets, one must keep in mind that the total effect will be
((Up_Time)/(Total_DPS_Time))*Effect
rather than
((Up_Time)/(Cooldown_Time))*Effect
. To explore this effect, one need only think of a fight that lasted 1 minute and 45 seconds. Using the trinket 2 times in that length of time yields an average of 34 passive damage. Also, for some trash pulls, the pull may only last 45 seconds or so. This would mean that using
Vengeance of the Illidari
would give you the same damage boost as a trinket with a passive 40 damage.
On the other hand, it is very possible that you may find yourself chain casting for exactly 3 minutes, which would give you exactly 2 uses and allow
Vengeance of the Illidari
to cooldown completely, but not be used a 3rd time. In this kind of situation, the effect of
Vengeance of the Illidari
would only be a passive 20 damage. Another case in point could be that a fight lasted 1 minute and 45 seconds, but you waited 15 seconds into the fight to pop the trinket for the first time. That situation would mean that the
Vengeance of the Illidari
would only give you a passive 17 damage over the course of the fight.
What all of this means is that when comparing a flat rate, passive trinket to an on use trinket, it's more complicated than simply looking at the amount of damage the trinket would add per cooldown. Even if you remember to use
Vengeance of the Illidari
every time it is off cooldown, the amount of average damage it gives will vary with a number of factors. For most intents and purposes the damage output from these two trinkets will be similar with
Vengeance of the Illidari
potentially edging out slightly due to the passive crit rate. With that said, if you find that you sometimes forget to use trinkets every cooldown or would prefer not to have an on use trinket at all, then this trinket is a great alternative and can be obtained quite easily.
评论来自
Kaynos
Sad to see that i'm now 70 and i havent found anything worth replacing this, which i got at 58
评论来自
81807
Sad to see that i'm now 70 and i havent found anything worth replacing this, which i got at 58
For real....? Then you're just not looking hard enough. There are DOZENS of better trinkets at 70.
评论来自
childofnewlight
Which they don't, do they? Let alone at the same time, with the 10% cap.
No, they do not stack. They also have NO effect on flight form speed.
评论来自
272196
4.0.1 adds a nice 25 Int bonus to this.
评论来自
gajackson
There is a fan release version of TrinketMenu addon, compatible with 4.0+ (just google TrinketMenu 3.41; it is NOT on Curse or other major addon sites, as far as I know)
I can't recc it strongly enough; it auto-queues and swaps your trinkets for you, using easy-to-set rules you establish. In the case of several of my characters, I have 2 on-use and 1 passive trinket for each slot - that is 6 trinkets auto-managed for you!
TrinketMenu adds a mini-toolbar for those 2 slots. I click an on-use trinket, it fires off, and the addon auto-switches for me. Then I fire off slot-2 trinket, and it also auto-swaps out.
When all my on-use are on CD, then the passive ones are up & stay up until the CDs are done.
Best of both worlds.
评论来自
canyoneagle
Post shattering update:
Here is the quest chain to get this trinket.
You no longer need to get the empty vial.
1. It all starts with
Falling To Corruption
, which then directs you to the cauldron in the Furlbog camp.
2.
Mystery Goo
3.
Winterfall Runners
4.
High Chief Winterfall
5.
The Final Piece
6.
Words of the High Chief
评论来自
tarc
I presume at some point this item was nerfed, as some of the older comments make it sound like there was some on-use function of this trinket?
评论来自
ArtemisMedivh
Bis trinket for intellect users @49. This trinket should last you a while unless you are an engineer.
评论来自
Kreuz
Better than
the heirloom trinket
until level
73
, as long as you aren't starving for mana (which is highly unlikely if not impossible at that level range).
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