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评论来自
Ryjin
A definite upgrade over the tier 4 helm for rogues.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29044
+33 Armor(like it matters)
+12 Agility
+10 Stamina
Red Socket - Glinting Noble Topaz +4 agil +4 hit
Yellow Socket - Glinting Noble Topaz +4 agil +4 hit
Blue Socket - Pop a solid star of elune +12 stam
+10 hit rating
+4 ap
Put on the 34ap/16hit cenarion enchant you're looking at a total of:
+172 AP
+48 hit
+60 stamina
2.2% dodge
Flanker Credit: Also 1.2% crit (ty)
Long story short, I can't wait for Zul'Aman.
评论来自
9697
The iLevel of this item denotes it as The Eye/SSC quality loot.
评论来自
Nulgar
Rumoredly drops from Zul'jin, last boss in Zul'Aman
评论来自
sennan
This is part of the unofficial 2.3 Rogue set. As of the 15th October, the other pieces sharing the same skin/looks include:
Helm
Grimgrin Faceguard -
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33479
Shoulders
Shoulderpads of Dancing Blades -
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33300
Chest
Shadowtooth Trollskin Cuirass -
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33329
Waist
Bladeangel's Money Belt -
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33211
Hands
Trickster's Stickyfingers -
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33539
Legs
Shallow-grave Trousers -
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33538
Feet
Nyn'jah's Tabi Boots -
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33222
Merge them like Voltron, and look much, much cooler!
评论来自
64597
Confirmed drop off Zul'jin, the last boss of ZA.
评论来自
rayzorium
It's not as good as T5 imo.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30146
Pretty much the same all around, except this one has a little more AP and no meta gem. Depends on how much you value metas, I guess. The 12 agi and 3% crit damage one easily enough to beat two regular gems and 4 AP.
评论来自
39766
As sockets for a feral druid its smart to go with:
Red 8agi
Red 8agi
Blue 12stam
评论来自
106127
Think most people are underestimating how good the meta slot in t4 helm is.
This is a slight upgrade to t4, probably worse if you're losing 2pc.
The difference between the two is 16agi 12ap 14hit vs the meta gem (around 80aep)
评论来自
95777
Well, my previous comment appears to have disappeared. Basically what I said was: meta sockets are over-rated, and meta gem activation requirements are annoying.
To clarify, I did not say that a meta-socket is worth 10 AEP. I said the second half of the best rogue meta gem is worth around 10 AEP.
Your claim that math shows a meta socket to be worth 80 AEP is ludicrous. Think about what you're saying. If a meta socket is worth 80 AEP then you could replace it with +80 agility without any noticeable change to your dps.
There are only a few meta gems that make sense for a rogue to use in a raid. Let's consider them each on their own, starting with the least.
+24 AP, minor run speed increase: 1 AP = 0.5 AEP, so the AEP of this meta is 12. the minor run speed increase, while useful, does not boost your dps and thus is worth 0 AEP
+12 crit, +5% snare resist: 1 crit = 1 AEP (or slightly less) so at best this is worth 12 AEP. snare resist gets 0 AEP
chance on hit to increase attack speed: this one is hard to quantify, but from what I've heard the proc chance is so low that this gem is barely useful. I would rank it somewhere between 10 and 20 AEP.
+12 agility, +3% crit bonus dmg: obviously, the +12 agility is worth 12 AEP. So how much is the other part worth? I say around 10 AEP, giving a total AEP of 22.
Here's the deal with the +3% crit bonus dmg. From what I've seen, it only affects white attacks. And it only affects crit bonus dmg. So, it will only trigger on between 25% and 35% of your auto attacks. And when it does, it adds rather small amounts of damage. If your mh white attack crits for say ~1000, this added about 15 dmg to the attack. Off hand crits are probably more like ~400, meaning this adds about 6 dmg to the attack. (6 + 15) * 0.30 = 6.3 dmg on average. As far as I can tell, it would only take about 10 agility to have the same affect. I could be wrong, it might be slightly more or less, but there's no way it's anywhere close to the 68 agility that you implied.
Moving on . . .
It's all well and good to claim that "2 blue gems aren't exactly hard to socket without losing stats" but you're making rather broad assumptions about what gear a rogue is likely to have. Here's a great example: You mentioned the ninja boots, and yes they are ideal, but hardly the only likely option: Boots of Utter Darkness, Rapscallion Boots, Boots of Effortless Striking, Edgewalker Boots, are all very likely and of these only Edgewalker's has sockets and that one doesn't have a blue socket.
It's just so much better to not have to worry about your gem assortment, and any concession at all (like putting a shifting nightseye instead of a glinting noble topaz in the red socket in Edgewalkers, for example) in your dps gems makes the meta socket worth that much less.
In summary . . .
This helm is better for raid dps than t4 and deathblow and in fact any rogue helm in the game except t6 and cursed vision of sargeras.
评论来自
Foxpaw
I'd have to say anyone debating sockets and metas; You could always go way out on a limb and actually use a purple, green or orange gem (gasp!) which most people here seem to equate to committing some kind of heresy. God forbid you go for gems that can add two stats you can use instead of just one. e_e
评论来自
Slit
This helm is a huge upgrade from T4; and combining this one with 2 T4 and 2 T5 makes the way for some really nice dps in raids as combat swords.
评论来自
georulez
what about engineer's googles?? just the +3% crit dmg for my 26% chance to crit give me +1.5% overall dmg im caped with hit anyways just change some epic im so confused damn za drops
and as for that kick example ur totally wrong maybe u dont have proper gems for meta to work>>> NOOB
评论来自
74227
Quite possibly my pick for the coolest looking item in the game. :P
评论来自
69557
Is it better than x11?
评论来自
Flyv
For cat druids,
Toskk's DPS method
puts this significantly below the T4 helm. The problem is entirely the lack of the meta gem; 3% extra damage on crits makes a big difference for a cat with 40-50% crit rating. Interestingly it works better as a bear tank helm; between T4 and T5
according to Emmerald's model
.
It's very unusual for a helm this level to not have a meta socket. Maybe Blizzard will reconsider the item at some point.
评论来自
93488
40 agility and 3 sockets. Would be a great helm for survival hunters especially if they socket 3 10 agility gems. Would probably let rogues roll on it first though.
评论来自
Eloris
I'm pretty disappointed with the rogue community... Pretty obvious most of you don't realize just how valuable the Relentless Earthstorm Diamond is. The value of the meta gem combined with the two piece T4 bonus (assuming you're using the helm as one piece) would make this piece a solid downgrade. Spreadsheet it.
评论来自
203479
Whats best for rogues this with 3x 10hit rating gems and the 34ap/16hit enchant or the t4 head with the 2 piece set bonus?
评论来自
nick12322
This is one of the best helms for rogues. I recently got this for my rogue and i replaced my t4 helm with it =P.
评论来自
265739
At level 80, I'm still using this awesome helm. I just don't want to part with it D:
Not like I've seen an upgrade anyways... This thing is packed with AP gems for me.
评论来自
levalexi
i went to za recently and i picked this up on my feral tank druid, i put 3 24 stam gems in it and i havent found anything better yet
评论来自
sawier
so sad its no longer obtainable :( was my favorite leather helm in TBC the new green version doesn't go well with t5
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