评论来自 34000

Enhancement shaman focused but usable by hunters too, very nice to see engineering actually being worth it now.

评论来自 Lyrai

From what I've seen, each set of goggles can only be seen by the class they're geared towards. As a Mage, I never saw the Priest goggles on the trainer. So I'm guessing you have to be Shaman here. I don't -see- hunter goggles, but as of now, WoWhead has only 11 of these showing up, and notes said 13, so maybe they just haven't been added yet.

Still, very nice move on BLizz's part to add goggles for each SPEC, and not just each class.

评论来自 17933

Kind of pathetic that the leather goggles are so good for hunters and these are so pathetic. Some day they'll figure out how to put stats on an item so hunters can actually use them for any other reason than wearing some cool looking goggles.

评论来自 28451

How much skill points do we need to craft these goggles?

评论来自 Akeche

It's funny how these are pretty much... exactly the same as the DPS Plate ones except for armor, I just found that funny.

评论来自 25148

As a hunter i wish one pair(this) was purely for hunter stat wise. As it is, it is just more shammy loot.

Slightle better than http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28192 i guess, except for the intellect and the +35 hit with 2 parts of deso

评论来自 Spl4sh3r

Why do people think this isn't a hunter gear aswell as a shaman gear?? It got good AP and crit rating and you can add more with the meta socket.

评论来自 5960

Considering the fact that http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28331 has more stam and crit while sacrificing only 8 hit rating and 23 AP... I don't think there's any point in crafting these goggles.

评论来自 48549

Buffed to:

726 armor
44 stam
blue socket
meta socket
bonus + 4 crit
10 hit rating
26 crit rating
116 ap

评论来自 45518

Why is everyone saying that these are more Shammy than hunter? I don't see a single stat that would marginally benefit one more than the other. And to the comment about these being useless if you can just get the Gladiator helm...uhh... these are craftable, and they can also be equipped at level 50 as far as I can tell. Should be much easier to get.

评论来自 49004

Also of note, the detect arcane vortexes in Netherstrom isn't working. I extracted 6 motes without actually seeing the vortex.

评论来自 25692

does it give a bright green glow? cause from your pic it seems these give off a glow.

评论来自 31072

I see it as a strange green too in my PTR, seems almost like it is a bugged or incomplete skin.

survival hunters get +15% agi and will put a mark on monsters that increases AP of all attackers by 25% of agility...so obviously survival hunters get more out of 1 point of agi than they would out of 1 point of crit or 2 points of AP. I don't know that shamans get anything like this, but those are 2 glaring reasons why hunters would argue they want to see agility on an item to make it "hunter" gear.

评论来自 36978

Can anyone on the PTR currently confirm the mats required. I've seen some say it requires a primal nether, and some say it requires 4 fel-iron bolts. I just want to know if I should be rolling on the primal nethers in preparation of these goggles or not. Thanks.

评论来自 35640

Blizzard makes me wanna puke sometimes. Leather goggles have 48 agi!!! Mail has ZERO! ZILCH! NADA!

Mail gear is broken. Shaman's and Hunter's are the worst 2 classes in the game... and the pathetic mail gear available is a huge part of why.

评论来自 36978

Here's what the goggles actually look like

http://webpages.charter.net/replex2/surestrike_goggles.jpg

I think the 'green goggles' picture must have been taken before the skin was finished and uploaded into the PTR

评论来自 Rizzu

Can anyone verify if this is taught through a trainer? Or is it an epic drop?

评论来自 55073

These are pretty sweet, even for me and I'm survival. (which crushes MM DPS btw) I put in a +agi meta with +3% crit damage increase and a talasite with +4 crit and +6 stam. Its actually less AP and 50% less agi off my other helm but 41 crit points easily make up for it. I replaced a crit trinket with an AP trinket and made up the agi with enchants.

评论来自 40282

To everyone who complains that the leather is a better choice, it isn't, because a hunter cannot make them. Also since straight Atk, crit is now better than agi for hunters these are better for hunters anyways. IMO

评论来自 34422

Hi ppl, just wanted to make some clarifications with these goggles:

1.) The increased stealth detection bonus on this thing stacks with "Track Hidden" (quite nifty indeed) It also stacks with a felhunter's "Paranoia" buff (http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=19480). Yummy, more stealth detection power :)
2.) The detection of objects that are "out of phase" includes gas clouds which yield various types of motes. Gas clouds are scattered across many areas in outlands and act like "nodes" such as herbs and mines. The Zapthrottle Mote Extractor then takes on this role :) (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23821) This can be quite useful indeed, but I haven't tried it yet.
3.) The Longsight vision is instant cast, and is very powerful for zoning in for close-up views. With a 3 second cooldown and the ability to freely rotate whilst looking at stuff, I'd say its better than Eagle Eye.
4.) Keep in mind that any Master Engineer in Outlands should be able to teach you how to make these. This Includes the ones in Telredor, Thrallmar etc. Its BoP so keep in mind that only you can make it and if you drop engineering, these won't be useable. Also, you won't be taught to craft any of the other goggles like the Deathblow ones. Just these if you're a Hunter.
5. Usable at level 62; these goggles can potentially be one of the big contributing factors to a lvl 69 twink's dominance in BGs. They will also greatly serve the wearer well throughout the lvl 60-69 range.

These are very nice goggles, and can be a nice upgrade or even a alternative for those who have:

Stalker's Helmet of Second Sight - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31106 (SMV quest reward)

Helm of Desolation - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28192 (Last boss in BM drops it)

Beast Lord Helm - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28275 (Last boss in mechh drops it)

Dream-Wing Helm - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27888 (First boss in SL drops it)

Netherdrake Helm - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29510 (Craftable by LWs)

Storm Helm - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23534 (Craftable by BSers)

Steelspine Faceguard - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28671 (Shade of Aran drop)

Lots of AP, a nice chunk of crit rating as well as hit rating makes these goggles worth considering if you don't raid alot :) Some nice sockets for the icing on the cake too ^^

评论来自 34251

This item makes me wish I was an Engineer.... Alchemy sucks ass for Enhancement Shamans.. :(

评论来自 59509

I know this may be stupid, but you can use these in arena correct? I forget if not being able to use engineering items in arena counted on equippable non trinkets.

Also, has anyone tested the +stealth detection against rogues to see how, if at all, effective it is?

评论来自 78410

An excellent piece of equip, the material costs are low for its quality. Every hunter who picked up engineering and isn't far into endgame raiding should make this, it's just as good as T5. Although it lacks Agi and MP5, it's got solid Hit, Crit and AP.

Cause of the high Crit I might even wear the Goggles over T5 as non-survival Hunter. In any case, you can save a lot of DKP on the T5 helm to spend on more important gear, and pick up the helm when everyone else has it and it's low on DKP.

评论来自 83803

does any1 know if a 39 twink could use this item?

评论来自 95192

Here are the correct base mats needed:

30 Knothide Leather
10 Mote of Fire
48 Fel Iron Ore
120 Adamantite Ore
32 Eternium Ore
6 Khorium Ore
2 Nightseye

Note: this does not take 16 Eternium Ore or 60 Adamantite Ore as others have stated. It is a common mistake to calculate the number of bars needed and not double it to get the number of ore needed.

评论来自 MaskedMustelid

Imo, I'm not sure I'd give these up for even the T6 Gronnstalker helm (not taking into account set bonuses) for pure unadulterated DPS. Less agility and stanima, sure, but the hit and crit more than make up for it. True, blue sockets don't give much choice for hunters, but given you need a couple for a relentless earthstorm diamond anyway, it's not so bad.

Coupled with a relentless earthstorm and a +3MP5 gem and the +34AP/16Hit head enchant, it gives me a total of 2201 HunterAEP; whereas the Gronnstalker with a +16AP switched for the MP5 gem but otherwise the same meta/enchant gives you only 1955 HAEP. Of course, YMMV and that all depends if you subscribe to the formulae in the first place or what gems you use, but I'm betting I'll still be wearing this into the next expansion for a good while to come.

评论来自 smashfanDS

If I have this equipped and then unlearn Engineering, will it still stay on me, or will it get unequipped?

评论来自 18543

Since S1 Arena gear is cheap and easy to get, just for fun, here is what the Gladiator Chain Helm has, in comparison:

+19 sta
+ 18 int
+ 0.8 crit rating
+ 1.36% dodge
+ 20 resilience
+ red gem slot instead of blue
MINUS 26 AP
MINUS 13 hit rating
MINUS gas spotting
MINUS 5 stealth detection

评论来自 121430

As a Survival hunter and an engineer, these goggles are very disappointing. Blizzard needs to learn how to budget gear for survival hunters too, since I am just as disappointed with most of the tier and pvp gear available due to an utter lack of agility on most of it.

Additionally, this item has changed in patch 2.3. Gas nodes (for use with the Zapthrottle Gas Extracter) now appear on your minimap when used.

评论来自 gundamgpo1

Do you have to be goblin engeneering to get training?

评论来自 ovrsteps

This is going to get an updated version in patch 2.4. I don't know what level of engineering it'll require, but most are thinking 375. It will be called "Surestrike Goggles v3.0" and will requite four Primal Airs, four Nether Motes (new items added with 2.4, perhaps as Magister's Terrace drops or daily rewards), and a pair of v2.0 goggles.

评论来自 27313

Mats if you dont have mining:

6x Heavy knothide leather
1x Primal Nether
2x Nightseye
3x Khorium Bar
1x Primal Fire
8x Felsteel Bar
6 Hardened Adamantite Bar - Or ask a BS guy to smelt 60x adamantite bars to 6 Hardened adam. Bars.

评论来自 Jdac

Ok.. this may be a stupid question, but as i havent seen any gas clouds at all on my minimap... is the track gas clouds thing activated as soon as i put them on, or does it have an ability to use? if so i cant find it, lol.. any help would be appreciated.

评论来自 94309

These have a level requirement of 62, if anyone wondered. Just figured that out on my 350-engineering hunter in level 61.

评论来自 Knoxpwns

As noted by Hayzuce futher down in the comments, I wanted it to be right here so people would see it.

评论来自 53766

These goggles are awesome, even a little better than tier 4. I used a little algorithm to calculate the value of each stat, I don't know how accurate it is, but here it is:

1 stat is worth 1
20 armor is worth 1
2 attack power is worth 1
1 critical strike rating, hit rating, or resilience is worth 1.5
gems are worth 12 (the best gems are worth about 12 using the above values)
meta gems are worth 15

With this system, Surestrike gets 229 (I added 15 for abilities), and tier 4 gets 188, but it's probably slightly higher due to set bonuses.

Anyway, the stats on this thing rock. It has plenty of potential for high stamina, as well as having great crit and attack power for optimal dps. This is SO much better than all that hunter/shaman gear with all the spell crit and stuff.

评论来自 82881

Now that Primal Nethers are not soulbound anymore, there is little holding you back (other than cost) from getting this incredible headpiece right when you ding 62. Friggin amazing piece for the leveling hunter. Will cost up to 1000g in mats but ***completely*** worth it. Funny wearing better than tier 4 equipment at 62 :-P

评论来自 147431

I see quite a few people complaining about these goggles not being suitable for Survival Hunters. I don't know about other Survival hunters but when I am not raiding I spec out and go BM for the superior DPS. As such, there are a few pieces of gear that I swap out too; pieces that focus less on Agility and more on AP. I take myself away from being Survival-mode ("must stack Agi, must stack Agi, must stack Agi... go go EW").

Yes it'd be nice if there was a craftable helm on par with these goggles that helped Survival hunters. But seriously, if you're in content which promotes you being Survival spec then chances are you're being given countless chances to get a helm piece which is better suited for your raid spec.

This helm is on par with T5; BM hunters would be hard pressed to make the T5 helm an upgrade. It's not uncommon at all that BM hunters where this piece until they get their T6 helm (which even then is not as much of an upgrade as one would think it'd be).

评论来自 148685

k, i was wondering if it was worth taking engi on my enhanc shammy for these?

评论来自 1Beachcomber

Earthwarden's Coif is also a very nice quest reward helm for either hunters or enhancement shamans.

评论来自 130587

There is one question I want to ask about this item.

Is enhancement speced shamans able to wear these or is it only hunters who can wear it?

评论来自 118739

for the 69 twink enhance shaman out there, i did some comparisons between Mechanized Snow Goggles of the Bandit and Surestrike Goggles v2.0. Assuming you socket the helm with Persistent Earthsiege Diamond and a Sovereign Dreadstone (i used the epic one cuz i plan to get one when they become available), the end results are:

Snow - - - - Surestrike
53 agi - - - - - 4 agi
79 stam - - - 43 stam
106 ap - - - - 168 ap
20 frost - - - - 0 frost
0 hit - - - - - - 13 hit
0 crit - - - - - - 38 crit
no stealth - - stealth detection

+49 agi
+36 stam
- - - - - - - - - - +62 ap
+20 frost
- - - - - - - - - - +13 hit
- - - - - - - - - - +38 crit
- - - - - - - - - - stealth detection
- - - - - - - - - - 10% stun duration

personally, im choosing the Surestrike Goggles v2.0, but you can decide. hope it helps.

评论来自 458801

Is it just me, or does this item really pale in significance to this item: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27414 ?

评论来自 Prompter

They sure are amazing goggles for a lvl 62! A shame that they are so expensive to craft...

评论来自 850057

Did they remove this recipe from the game? I've visited every trainer I could find and they just aren't there.

评论来自 Goodwinn

In Patch 7.3 Blizzard changed many of the old Engineering-only BoP goggles from BC, Wrath, Cata and Mists to be BoE which means they can now be sold on the Auction House or traded. Keep in mind, they still require a certain level of Engineering to equip. A complete list of the items that were changed can be found here.

If you use the add-on TSM here's a group you can import to add all of these items at once:

i:32461,i:32472,i:32473,i:32474,i:32475,i:32476,i:32478,i:32479,i:32480,i:32494,i:32495,i:34353,i:34354,i:34355,i:34356,i:34357,i:34847,i:35181,i:35182,i:35183,i:35184,i:35185,i:42549,i:42550,i:42551,i:42552,i:42553,i:42554,i:42555,i:44949,i:59359,i:59448,i:59449,i:59453,i:59455,i:59456,i:59458,i:77533,i:77534,i:77535,i:77536,i:77537,i:77538,i:77539

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