评论来自 49056

Drops of High Warlord Naj'Entus in Black Temple.

评论来自 16201

I'm sure this is an excellent weapon for many classes, but this has got to be one of the best (if not the best) 2H weapon for hunters currently in WoW.

评论来自 Skulver

With higher DPS than even Twinblade of the Phoenix or the tier 3 blacksmith weapons I suspect this weapon would be slightly under utilised as a stat stick for a hunter. However if your guild is at this point in the game there probably aren't too many arms warriors or ret paladins in your raid to fight you for it.

评论来自 9191

and it's completely utilized as a dps stick for a warrior? it's completely a hunter wpn

评论来自 51325

This is definitely, definitely a super solid upgrade from Sonic Spear and pretty much any melee weapon in the game for hunters atm, the stats on it are great, it would be a shame if anybody else tried to take it from a hunter.

评论来自 rosa08

I'm an arms warr, and idd that this is something that would serve a hunter well, and should not be taken away from a hunter if one drops and the hunter need rolls it. If that happens everyone else should pass. But, if there is no hunter and there is an arms warr in the party, he (or she) should be entitled to it, it has the right speed and good stat bonuses. Hard hits for arms there :). But. idd, a hunter first, then an arms warr.

评论来自 40642

The DPS and stamina on this weapon will never be of as much use to a hunter as to a warrior, regardless of his spec, and the overall increase in damage from the difference in stats between this and, say, the Hellforged Halberd (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29166) won't be overwhelming in the light of what you as a hunter already have if you're raiding at this level.

I'm a hunter, and I would let any warrior have this weapon before me.

评论来自 Skulver

Seems we have plenty of hunters moderating. Funny how anyone who so much as suggests that the highest dps weapon in the game may be of use to someone who isn't a hunter gets modded into oblivion.

评论来自 Fallerup

its is an exelent hunter weapon is, its infact one of the best I've seen so far, I'm a 2h freak, because I believe that you gain more ap from a 2hander than from dw, but dont forget fury warriors, this is superb for those too. with savagery enchant a hunter gets 231 ap from this, and there is no need for survival specc, as MM hunter your shots are godly with this, I like this one from be4 patch: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28794 <--- but this is much better as it has more ap all together and the agility to give crit and so on, I dont know how many crit % warriors get pr. agi but I'm sure its high too, so imo... hunter/fury warrior weapon

评论来自 40642

Agreed. People seem to think all 2H-weapons with agility and AP are created for the sole benefit of hunters. This weapon will only come to its full use in the hands of an arms-pole specced warrior.

评论来自 58069

this is definately not a fury warrior weapon.

i am pretty sure that you meant arms; fury warrior are all about speedy weps and duel weilding, this thing has the slow speed and high end damage that makes mortal strikes deadly as hell :P

overall, i like this wep first for an arms warrior, then for a hunter.

评论来自 drackmire

It doesn't contain strength.

评论来自 58069

that's true, which is why i didnt say that it was a hands-down gift from god to arms warriors. but, the +100 AP is just like saying +50 str, so its not like it doesnt have a str boost on it, it just doesnt list it as +str

评论来自 leyut

1 STR is equal to 2 AP. So 50 STR is 100 AP. They're equivalent.

评论来自 dautaras

dont be NOOBS this is firstly a hunter weapon see the agi-hit rating and the AP when a hunter wants a weapon u do like crazy . LEARN TO PLAY NOOBS!!

评论来自 38601

This weapon is good for a warrior true. But this is only the 2nd true upgrade a hunter that uses a 2H can get after Legacy, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28587, in kara. I'm sure Blizzard would not create the entire Black Temple instance and forget about arms warriors. Stormherald, http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28442, can be obtained before BT and has higher top and low end damage than this weapon which is what MS warriors look for.

评论来自 Nicklaus32780

geeze dont be a noob noob.

评论来自 46866

Being a warrior, I'll admit this isn't bad, but there's so many great 2h weapons out there for us. I say don't be greedy and let the hunters have it first. This is GREAT for their RAP. Besides, there are far more raiding hunters of all specs then there are of raiding arms warriors - hello? do they exist even?

And...as a raiding warrior since 2004...Always go for str over equal amounts of ap, it's ridiculous not to with kings.

评论来自 sandman

i don't really think that anyone can deny that it was clearly made for hunters, but sadly having seen paladins with even the eye of nerub i won't be surprised to see some getting this one.
Too bad they won't get the x-bow/bow/gun skill this time tho...

评论来自 tsiris

if u see count 3 drops, one at a hunter ;) (ahoq)

评论来自 48582

no, its 3 count but what ive seen is Ahoq form nihilum got one and Dolemite form Death and Taxes got one two !

评论来自 ezzy

It's pretty much the fault of the guild if they allow this to happen :) free-dkp is just silly.

评论来自 46777

And arms-warriors should be banned from raids due to low dps... Are you spamming blessings for pvp/arena?

评论来自 Fallerup

as a MM hunter (and survival for that matter), this is a melee weapon I would go for, it has everything that I would want, agi, power and stamina, and I would have the choice to put 35 agi or 70 ap (savagery) on it, depending on what kind of freak I am (agi or power, for power its MM and for agi its survival) ... no class benefits more from this than hunters do, warriors come 2nd imo...

a hunter with this + a slow bow/Xbow/Gun + Blessing of might and all that shit... deadly stuff :D

评论来自 bigredhutnar

first true upgrade from sonic spear from murmur in shadow labs

评论来自 57322

Your replies are ignorant bigredhutnar. - THe legacy in Kara?? Know your info b4 you start posting ignorant information.

评论来自 64773

This thing is so pretty.. lol. I remember on the PTR how many times my group wiped trying to down this guy... Does anyone know the drop rate? jw

评论来自 Kurono

I screamed like a girl when this dropped on our 1st kill, I was the only hunter in the raid. lucky me :P
But seriously most warriors would prefer something other than this, I know it's good for them too, but they have so many other choices out there. Like mentioned above the Soul Cleaver. or Torch of the Damned (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32332) or maybe even (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30902), I know the Halberd is much easier to obtain but you have to be real honest here and say that for a hunter atm this and the 2 hander sword that drops of Kael would be the best choices if we are talking about using a 2 hander.

评论来自 59020

haha kind of looks like a thunderfury on a stick XD (well slightly) just my poinion haha probably one of the best looking weapons in game and great stats and damage as well

评论来自 Strye

I'm pretty sure the reason this weapon has insane DPS on top of the Hunter stats is because of the possibility of another class taking it...

*duh*

评论来自 Zealot

this weapon is a good upgrade for most hunters, till I got this weap, my weapon was Legacy, this weapon really boosted my RAP a long way, Ive seen even Palladins use it, while Warriors might prefer Cataclysms Edge or Soul Cleaver, they really go with T6 Onlaught Battlegear, check it out: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32348 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30902 and the set http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=672 , enjoy :D

评论来自 Blitz

Saying this is just a small upgrade for hunters is totally wrong...
This weapon has it all...
Sonic Spear has good hit rating but lacks AP and crit, Legacy has AP and crit, but lacks hit rating... This weapon doesn't lack any hunter dps stat...

评论来自 71240

I say this is about the best of the best for hunters. such a huge agi bonus.... im a marksman/survival(wyvern sting) hunter so 100 AP and 51+ agi plus 57+ sta(yay! more hp!) and +30 hit that means we could take advantage of the awesome DPS of this item way more often

评论来自 72428

TBC has such pretty weapons.

评论来自 73800

all u wrong... this is good for mages because of the agi!!! it will affect and much ur crit chance and then put moongose or savagery and ur the best mage ever

评论来自 71240

but mages get spells, we only got arrow stuff. normally if we get in melee we get slaughtered, you guys have like frost armour and stuff. Plus what are you an idiot? Mages can't use polearms! This is the best weapon hunters can get(if you exclude DWing).

评论来自 Eliandor

Agility is useful to any build and the attack power bonus falls in line with the proportions on tier sets. It's unarguably the best that a Hunter can pick up.

评论来自 66378

The real reason why Warriors don't really want this is agility does little for us. Critical strike rating is better for DPS since you get more percent critical chance with it per itemization point than agility. The dodge is useless when you are trying to do damage and you definitely aren't tanking if you are using a two-hander. While the same about the critical strike rating is true for Hunters they also get attack power from agility which makes them the prime candidate for this weapon, since Rogues and Druids can't use it. You can consider Retribution Paladins to be the same as Warriors for the purpose of this comment.

评论来自 23539

This permanent arguing for which class this item is best is ridicules.
Bid your DKP, best bidder wins. As neither hunters, retribution paladin nor arms warriors are essential for progression so there will be no intervention from your raidleader.
And if you are as far as this in content your warriors,, hunters, shamen know on their own, what ist best for them.

评论来自 82599

Blizzard almost certainly put this in for hunters. I play a warrior and i would pass for a hunter simply because there are better 2 handed swords and axes in BT and MH that contributute to str stats which scale with kings, and on top of that warriors should not be so selfish, not all melee weapons are made for us just because we can use all of them :)

评论来自 killahxxx

An image to illustrate Calminaion's point:
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6859/orclolbg6.png

评论来自 87944

Well, its good weapon for any class that can use polearms, but best for hunters, first time kill/drop it should go to hunters, next drop it should be free bid.

评论来自 90578

This is a polearm useful for all melee classes but it has hunters mainly in mind. The high agility and stam is useful, along with hit and attack power, those 4 stats are all hunters need nowadays.

评论来自 AoBman05

As a warrior, I'd pass this to hunters anyway, it's a little too fast to be a good arms war 2H'der. And I prefer STR and CRT over AGI and AP anyway, STR for BoK and CRT because it's cheaper to itemize than AGI. I wish Blizz would realize this though. That and the fact there are soo few good lances in this game currently too. =(

评论来自 rebjorn

Sonic Spear's big brother!

Sonic Spear
+35 Agility
+30 Stamina
Equip: Improves hit rating by 24 (1.52% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 62.

Halberd of Desolation
+51 Agility
+57 Stamina
Equip: Improves hit rating by 30 (1.9% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 100.

评论来自 102782

would this be good for pvp Bg,s anmd Areanas??????

评论来自 87387

It looks like the 10-man Trollbane http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33492 is very comparable to this item *if +hit is already capped*.

Socketing Trollbane with a Delicate Crimson Spinel and Balanced Shadowsong Amythest yields:
-2 Agility
+8 Stamina
+10 AP
-30 Hit Rating

评论来自 Kabuto

From a Survival perspective with max LR and AP talents:

Halberd of Desolation
+51 Agility
+57 Stamina
+35 Agility (Enchant)
Equip: Improves hit rating by 30 (1.9% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 100.

Total Agility = ~ 99 (109 with Kings)
Total Crit = ~ 2.5% (2.7% with Kings)
Total AP = ~ 207 (217 with Kings)

评论来自 21829

Might wanna mention those figures are for someone with +35 agi. A hunter with savagery would get wildly different results.

评论来自 120266

This could also be a good upgrade for a hunter from sonic spear the AP, stam, and agi isn't bad for a hunter.

评论来自 120266

This could also be a good upgrade for a hunter from sonic spear the AP, stam, and agi isn't bad for a hunter.

EDIT: Warriors if you want a good epic polearm you should go for - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30830

评论来自 94077

I use Terroks Quill right now with +35 agi on it, im the type of person wanting to fully upgrade and lose 0 stats in the process and after looking up upgrades on the armory..this was my final decision even though it was at the top of the list =/.....oh and this actually gives 3 less agi than TQ but well worth replacing for the stamina/AP/and 37 extra dps

评论来自 87646

Trident is nowhere near as good as this for a warrior. Its too fast, and it has no crit whatsoever. Also, this' top end damage is considerably higher.

评论来自 Hauraki

new sunwell badge gear The Blade of Harbingers
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34891
would be better for hunter stat stick if u don't need much of the hit rating.

The Blade of Harbingers
Binds when picked upTwo-Hand Axe
375 - 563 Damage Speed 3.50
(134.0 damage per second)
Durability 120 / 120
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 55 (2.49% @ L70).
Equip: Improves haste rating by 53 (3.36% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 108.

评论来自 130126

I doubt you'll be going to BT with your Terokk's Quill, no sir.

评论来自 RiceCake

Like many has already posted, the Halberd of Desolation is hands down the best 2-hander for hunters currently in game (patch 2.3). Trollbane does come close, so does dual wielding certain one-handers (One hunter in my guild dual wields Tracker's Blade from Rage and Messenger of Fate off of Gurtogg Bloodboil). Of course, at the end of the day it all comes down to who has more dkp or who has contributed to your guild more, but keep in mind that currently hunters almost have no second choice in terms of 2-handers.

评论来自 jynxycat

Amazingly great and is the best, but for only 1,000 arena points (and not having to get a BT quality guild), the S3 axe is pretty amazing on it's own merit.

评论来自 Magikz

This weapon compared to dual Netherbane:

If you use this, you will get 100 ap, 20 hit rating, 51 agility and 57 stamina, plus a +35 agility enchant will end up with 100 ap, 20 hit rating, 86 agility and 57 stamina.

Using dual Netherbane you will get 80 ap, 25 agility and 21 stamina. Plus 2 +20 agility enchants will get you at 80 ap, 65 agility, and 21 stamina.

For guilds not at Black Temple yet but running Tempest Keep often, I would suggest dual Netherbane to a hunter until they can get their hands on Halberd of Desolation , and even Shivering Felspine after, as you can put a nice agility gem in there, plus the extra ap is good. Sure you lose some stamina and hit rating, but if you are survival, you should have no problem dealing with the losses. Also, with the haste, it ends up at 3.38 speed.

评论来自 148970

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34014

Click link for Vengeful galdiators Waraxe, about the same if not better then the halburd and SO easy to get

1000 arena points and 0 personal rating required

评论来自 SilentJ

According to some statistics, is currently comparable to the Halberd due to its massive haste rating bonus.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34891

评论来自 204806

the best weapon for hunter so far is http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34183 i think

评论来自 272693

would this wep be good for a BM Hunter?

评论来自 Hynee

I still have this bad boy sitting in my bank XD.

评论来自 326508

one of the most beautiful skins ever

评论来自 pullaville

Does this show enchant graphics on it? I dont see any enchants in screenshots, considering getting this for transmog ^^.

评论来自 Eillesthis

These days, when this is strapped to your back (which it is virtually all of the time for 猎人s), the pointy end is down, despite what the 5-year-old screenshot would have you think. Plus or minus, depending upon your point of view.

评论来自 ifritx

This spear goes SO perfectly with the Legion Pre-expansion transmog sets.

评论来自 Gnojoke

This spear goes great with the Felshroud Leather armor ensemble.

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