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评论来自
16866
These potions will be useless as long as their cooldowns are tied to super mana pots.
评论来自
sabar
These sell very poorly. People just don't want the over time effect and the negative effect really hurts it. So sad. I've slashed prices 7 times and have yet to sell the ones I made.
评论来自
10746
Guess they would be nice for hunters. Unless arcane shot is considered a 'magical effect'
评论来自
15262
Hunters are the only ones I could see using this.
If people are looking for clever alternatives to health/mana pots, they usually go for dreamless sleep pots, so I don't see much of a market for this.
The mats are also pretty ridiculous. Mana thistle, while not as bad as ye old black lotus, is still rare enough to prevent mass consumption of this potion.
评论来自
muzulub
this pot is great for hunters. more mana than super mana pot, and a garantueed amount every time. used them for the first time in karazhan yesterday, and loved it :)
评论来自
20342
Does this effect last through death? I can see both ways, and if it does last through death it would severely limit their use by mainline casters on new/tough encounters where you may be attempting the boss multiple times without the time to wait for the debuff to drop.
评论来自
31300
It goes away after you die, just happened to me in karah
评论来自
Alyxandria
I actually use these quite a bit during boss fights for my holy priest, simply due to the fact that they give more mana at a pretty small +healing cost (so long as you don't take more than one during a fight)
I will generally pop a super mana pot, then release a shadowfiend, then based on where we are in the fight, i will then pop a fel mana or a super.
the only time i've used a fel mana twice is when we fight moroes, since you cannot release your shadowfiend (he will attack your shackle when moroes vanishes)
if you're concerned about the -50 to healing that comes with using them twice in succession, then pop one of the +healing pots that give you +50 healing :D really i'm never too concerned, as when i'm buffed in kara i'm at or around 1600 +healing.
all in all, this thing is my fave pot, it has saved my ass a few times lol.
评论来自
Alaha
So are these truly affected by the alchemist stone?
评论来自
7328
the bottled Innervate
评论来自
Promiseme
Have to be willing to spend tons of gold if you want these pots... I find it fine using super mana potions instead of wasting a huge amount of gold on these.
评论来自
37160
As an Enhancement Shaman, these pots are great.
I have no spell power anyway, so the debuff is not a problem.
with the alchy stone, this is a guaranteed 4480 mana back over 24 seconds.
The fact that it is over 24 seconds is actually great since it means you can use them much in the fight.
评论来自
snegoviK
This is an amazing potion for a priest with Alchemist's Stone. If you have Alchemist's Stone on you, you cannot be stingy by definition, therefore the mats for this potion shouldn't really scare you. ;) It really is worth it. With Alchemist's Stone this potion is nearly equivalent to a Shadowfiend. The only major problem, as mentioned above, is a stacking debuff. Therefore, I wouldn't recommend drinking more than 1 of these during a fight. Drink one, and then use Dreamless Sleep / Super Mana potions.
You also have Shadowfiend + if you are Draenei - Symbol of Hope. I also have Jewelcrafting, so I have my Talasite Owl ready to use in conjunction with Symbol of Hope, giving me an ability to quickly restore my Mana bar atleast 1.5 times during the fight.
评论来自
GoGoGodzilla
Just for the record, this is taught by the appropriate recipe, which is a blue drop in SMV. (
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31682
)
评论来自
impulse
This hasn't been mentioned in previous posts, but I'm wondering if paladins can Divine Shield out of the debuff or not. If that's possible, this pot could be the pot of choice over a Super Mana Potion.
评论来自
vexis58
One other thing that's great about this potion is that since it's mana over time, you can use it sooner. One of the problems I have (as a healing priest) with super mana pots is that I have to wait until I'm halfway out of mana before using one, and that means a longer amount of time before I can use another. If I use a Fel Mana pot early in the fight when I'm still relatively high in mana, my cooldown will be ready sooner to use a Super Mana pot when I go oom.
Dreamless sleep potions are simply not an option, especially when the healing is so down to the wire that I can barely spare a 1.5 second global cooldown to chug a mana pot. The debuff on this pot is negligible when you've got 1300+ healing. Just don't stack too many of them and you'll be fine.
评论来自
125959
New fel mana potions used after each fel mana potion will renew the 15 minute debuff duration.
A mage's ice block or a paladin's divine shield does not remove the debuff.
Death removes the debuff.
For non-hunters using a combination of super mana potions and fel mana potions, the best time to use the fel mana potions are at the end of a fight, and super mana potions before that.
评论来自
madedog
I'm guessing that this potion will be more valuable for retpaladins in 2.4, since all spelldamage will be removed from gear anyway, and the minor SD one gains from improved spirit buff isn't exactly anything to whine losing about ^^
评论来自
marcimi
With Patch 2.4 "Fury of the sunwell" this item get's more interesting for healing classes. If you combine a
Redeemer's Alchemist Stone
with a
Fel Mana Potion
you can restore more than 4000 Mana with this Potion.
As a raiding healer, you can ignore the drawback or compensate the drawback with bufffood and/or trinket-usage.
Same for Caster's with a
Sorcerer's Alchemist Stone
.
评论来自
69115
These are great for Retribution Paladins in addition to hunters, since ret paladins have zero spell damage now. (And before only had like 20 in PVE gear)
评论来自
104009
The debuff lasts 15 minutes according to WoWhead. So I think you should chug 1 or 2 of these and the rest super mana pots for healers and dps. Hunters go wild.
评论来自
78377
Does the reduced healing affect Mend Pet for Hunters?
评论来自
yjesus
I was wondering, since I have never used it before, how often the over time ticks?
评论来自
smdante
As for the debuff from a healer's standpoint, the negative effect of one of these pots can be completely negated by using an
Elixir of Healing Power
. The result is reliably more mana while taking up your battle elixir slot, but as been said before- you can't heal while oom.
评论来自
178481
After having a long discussion with a hunter in my guild, I decided to farm this recipe. It took me two days, but was very worth it. As a rogue I gain nothing from it, but for hunters especially, this is an excellent alternative to Super Mana Potions. Let's Examine:
While Super Mana Potions grant you a
range
of mana, (1800-300 to be exact) the Fel Mana Potion grants you a guaranteed amount of mana (3200). While it gives you mana over time (400 mana every 3 seconds for 24 seconds) it is a guaranteed amount! That means that you will not get screwed over by getting only 1800 mana! Now, lets examine the Debuffs.
Please read: :
"Restores 3200 mana over 24 seconds, but at a cost. Also reduces Spell Damage by 25 and healing done by 50 for 15 minutes."
While it is very much inadvisable for a Mage, warlock or any type of caster/healer to use this potion, (especially if used repeatedly, as the debuff can stack up to ten times and is renewed with each use) it is feasible if the healer or caster in question has a vast amount of plus healing/damage.
However
, this potion is almost build specifically for hunters. It is also not a bad choice for Enhancement Shamans (if they're rage doesn't generate enough mana alone) and Retribution Paladins either.
评论来自
49966
These pots are a great use on Kaz'rogal. They will effectivley negate his Mark of Kaz'rogal effect which drains 600 mp5. This potion gives ~667mp5.
-25 damage or -50 healing is worth it to not blow up your raid =D.
Edit: Typos
评论来自
Qlix
As a raiding hunter there is nothing better in the game at this time next to carrying your own "Mana Battery" aka ShadowPriest with you every raid.
I buy these in bulk at a discount... usually 150-200 at a time
评论来自
386977
These potions work in the General Vezax encounter! (I recommend this if youre doing hardmode)
nerfed in a 3.2
Hotfix
评论来自
69389
This pot is gonna lose its charm when Cataclysm arrives, as Hunters won't have mana anymore when it does.
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