These aren't really what i would call exceptional. I run around with green gloves that are on par with these. Expedition gloves of the bandit. Surely there are many blues that exceed these. Free void shard
12 weapon skill rating is about 3 or 4 weaponskill, wich means 0.3% - 0.4% crit.
Although these gloves are a big pile of poo (disenchant loot), i'd recommend to take a look at this blue post:
"Let's say you increase your weapon skill by 4.
Against a mob 3 levels higher than you, you get: 0.8% lower chance to miss, 0,4% lower chance to get dodged, 2,4% to be parried, and a 0,8% higher chance to crit. That means a 4,8% net increase."
And 4 weapon skill is exactly what these gloves provide. But looking at the rest of the stats... you should better look for T4 gloves or Dexterous Manipulation (Huntsman).
If you are in a high end raid guild, and you are a combat rogue, please, spend 2 points in weapon expertise because it will greatly increase your sustained dps (this has been tested and confirmed).
These will be better after Patch 2.1. On PTR the stats are the following :
+12 sword/mace/dagger rating
makes them really more valuable. glad that i got them.
These are a dream come true for a heavy Sub rogue who lives off of weapon swapping. Subtelty doesn't have anything beyond AP boosts to increase its white damage or weapons with a + to skill. These cover everything a Sub rogue might want and with Sinister Calling (+15% Agi or around 29.9 Agi from the gloves) and Deadliness (+10% AP or around 92 AP also just from the gloves) and a bonus to all weapon skills these are great for any Sub rogue who wants to go PvE.
...too bad the Sub tree is pretty weak compared to all the others when it comes to PvE damage -.-
New stats for 2.1
Weapon Skill with Swords, Maces and Daggers 15
+29 AC, +3agi, +10sta, +14 AP, +3 Weapon skill
Could use some hit rating instead 3 different weapon skills...
said a feral druid... :p
these dropped from one of the horses before Attumen. No rogues were present, sadly, so we sharded.
I think someone forgot fists skill on those...
Do these stack up with the weapons expertise talent?
Dropped for me last night.
- sword daggers and maces +15 skillrating (aka 3weapon skill). WHY NOT FIST is my question
Enchants : I putted 26AP on it as i need it but best enchant is 15agi in my opinion. If u got enough AP or Crit think about the old Minor Haste Glove enchant might be intresting ( gives 1% attack speed).
I was the only rouge in the group when these dropped. Since I'm very lacking in purples (just engi goggles and Edgewalker's from Moroes) I decided to at least save these in the bank. Definitely not worth loosing 1% hit and the 4 piece bonus from Assas set. Will probably save it for resist gear as the above comment laments not doing :P
Now they give: 29 Agi, 34 Sta, 60 AP and 15 Sword/mace/dagger skill.
These scale nicely with gear. Would recommend getting these over netherblade, if you have the two set bonus from shoulders and legs or likewise.
Has anyone done the numbers how these will be for feral druids in the 2.3 Patch - Now they have innate "Expertise" instead of Previous skills.
So those are supposed to be better than
(Gloves of Dexterous Manipulation) socketed with 2x Glinting Noble Topaz (+16 Hit) on a bossfight??
1: Gloves of Dexterous Manipulation
Red Socket (+8 Hit)
Blue Socket (+8 Hit)
Socket Bonus: +3 Critical Strike Rating
Equip: Increases attack power by 42.
2: Grips of Deftness
Equip: Increases your expertise rating by 15.
Equip: Increases attack power by 60.
Which are better where and why??
Expertise conversion form rating is truncated and not rounded, thus this piece grant 3 Expertise points and not 4... 15 / 3,9 = 3,85. The .85 is ignored by the system.
This is important because if you use this piece together with Shapeshifter's Signet, which grants 20 Expertise rating, the resulting 35 rating generates 8 Expertise points, instead of the supposed 9 you should get by a 8,97 that results.
Considering 1 Expertise rating lowers by 0,25% either parry and dodge, that truncation "costs" you 0,5% of your hit if you are tanking, or 0,25% if your back-DPSing.
For a Rogue, this means that Netherblade gloves (T4) and Violet Signet of Master Assassination (KZ ring at Exalted rep) is a better solution if used with Garona's signet, giving you 42 total hit rating, that is 2,66 hit%.
This Gloves are interesting if you're already Hit Capped.
For Transmog purposes, these match up perfectly with the Madcap set for Rogues (
) if anyone still has the pieces.
Also, the Stormshroud set (
) has the same models available.
Still trying to find a matching Helm, Belt, and Boots though.
Confirmed just now, these still drop in BfA in 8.1.5.
These still drop as of january 2022. got them from a phantom guest in the grand ballroom.
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