评论来自 Azhmiraa

Being a rogue specific trinket, in this case, it pretains to all attacks that consume enegry. The decrease in armor is pretty drastic PvP for some class's (if it proc's). Currently the WoW formula uses a "Debuff" called:

Apply Aura: Proc Trigger Spell: Perceived Weakness (http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=37174)

The current proc rate is 3% non-varied. Ither way, its a comprable trinket. Enjoy and Good luck!

评论来自 schintus

Here is some info on damage reduction...

http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Damage_reduction

评论来自 Vesper

Is this a proc that gives a debuff on the mob or a buff on you, so that when it proc's and you change targets you will still have the 1000 armor penetrarion for the remaining length of the proc?

This is how Badge of the Swarmguard (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=21670) and Bonereaver's Edge (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=17076) used to work.

评论来自 frmorrison

Armor Pen is a great stat. I neck in Black Temple dropped a neck that has -600 Armor Pentration and some Stamina.

Always on stuff that that is much better than a proc trinket that has some hidden cooldown.

This item will likely get adjusted, so do not d/e!

评论来自 25980

Okay, after seeing this trinket in action after the 2.1 patch I can only say, GET IT!

Now it procs as often as the Dragonspine Trophy if not more. I can really recommend this and is very much an alternative for the Tsunami trinket.

I didn't even use it prepatch, now it's standard together with Dragonspine.

评论来自 61103_

how much armour does your average raid boss have?? cant do any math on it without knowing that :P

评论来自 61103_

how much extra damage would you see when this procs on your typical raid boss?

评论来自 25180

It procs A LOT, get it. Also seems to have a hidden cooldown. My guess is 20 seconds or so, if someone has better info reply to my post!

评论来自 Einn

Fetched this lil' beauty today - it procs all over the place and then some.

评论来自 Vego

did they nerfed it? proced for me 3 times on whole hydros fight, wtf?

评论来自 11167

What are some of the best theorycrafting dicussions/analysis of the new WSC here? wtb: Links that prove if it's better than Tsunami or not.

评论来自 62037

I got this 2 days ago on our 2nd Void Reaver kill. The other rogue wasnt too fussed about it and was saving PPR for something else. I bid my minimum and got the item and have been testing it ever since.

The proc rate is huge. I believe there is a secret cooldown but not entirely sure what it is, I dont have proc watch installed but could be useful for testing such a trinket it being chance on special attack which is pretty much everything apart from auto attacks, I even had it proc on deadly throw in EotS last night!!

For its addition to DPS I am quite happy though I think I would swap it for Tsunami Talisman overall. I have found when soloing mobs with high armour this trinket can really come into its own. Grabbing a 5pt Armour reduction and proccing this trinket will at lvl 70 ignore 2020 (I think) armour on the mob and give an extra 1000 armour penetration and it works lovely. If your the only rogue in a VR kill and this drops its worth the minimum DKP bid just to have a play around with it imo.

评论来自 49190

Dropped for me on our first Void Reaver kill.
I'm very glad i got it. This buff holds around 40-60% of time.
1000 Armor penetration is very nice. Especially if your target is already affected by sunder armor and Fiery Fire. (around 15% DPS increase).

评论来自 53055

Got this trinket 2 weeks ago and have seen it proc on sap, gouge, kick basically any move that requires energy. A neat trick is in pvp is have this equipped, sap a target and with the 25% proc u have a decent chance to get a free armor debuff then equip ur pvp trinket. With serrated blades and premeditation think of the armor debuffing possibilities.

评论来自 33809

I've uploaded the screenshot of the testing I've just done.

I kept Slice and Dice up and used Blade Flurry once to kill an add.

14 minutes (ish) of combat with 42 procs works out at 3 procs per minute.

评论来自 Einn

"14 minutes (ish) of combat with 42 procs works out at 3 procs per minute."

Are you entirely sure of your experience? If you are, this means that the trinket is active a dazzling 75% of the time. I've never done any extensive testing myself, but it doesn't seem to be activated quite this often. If it really does, it's truly comparable with the Tsunami Talisman from Leotheras the Blind. In fact, it's likely better.

评论来自 Fugazi

This is secound best trinket in game. DST is still better, however after 2.2 nerfs it will be not THAT much better (internal cooldown + haste nerf). In terms of dps it is equal to Illidan trinket and little better than Tsunami.

If you have 2 of 4: Tsunami, Warp, Illidan trinket, DST then you are pretty much set until next expansion really.

Also this one is easiest to get really as you don't need to compete with dps warriors or other melee dps for it. Drop rate is pain (waited almost 2 months) but well other trinkets drop rate is low like hell also.

P.S. That is true for combat swords (and probably maces, fists, daggers).

评论来自 30527

i've always though special attacks are only your yellow attacks ( ss, backstab, evi, kick etc ) but today amazingly that thing proced from.... sap ! yes. imagine me when after sap i got ..woot. percieved weakness :D

评论来自 37981

Does anyone know if it count mutilate as 2 attacks?

评论来自 63899

Got this last night. The Rogue DPS Spreadsheet shows it as a minor (+ .36 raid buffed; a 1.8 unbuffed decline) improvement of Romulo's Poison Vial. Would be interested to hear if others thought it was a major upgrade. Took it into Kara after VR and it procced constantly...

Edit: the DPS spreadsheet does show this as an upgrade over Romulo's PV but the Rogue Gear spreadsheet shows the WSC as an upgrade over the Bloodlust brooch. Comments?

评论来自 Keydar

I've been trying it out and have noticed it proc twice within 30 seconds. I do not know if the hidden cooldown is less than 30 seconds, but I know for sure that it is less than 45.

评论来自 115776

Can anyone tell me if this stacks with the Armor Penetration of Executioner?

评论来自 118183

Did i get it right? Your special attacks (any move that consumes energy) can give ALL of your attacks, whites and styles, 1000 armor penetration? Because in the german localisation its a bit odd and sounds like your STYLES will get 1000 armor pen..

评论来自 weyland

Has a 30 second hidden cooldown

评论来自 60615

I was running around questing in Netherstorm today, and found out that this trinket even procs of sap.

Gives you a nice little boost on ambush damage.

评论来自 125249

Proc rate is 2.1 ppm
its quite a lot tbh. very good trinket

评论来自 55924

Very nice trinket, and considering that all the DPS warriors, ret pallies, and enhancement shamans are going too be going after the tsunami talisman, and only us rogues can go for the coil, for the sake of guild progression, and your own personal progression, my advise is too go for this trinket.

Compaired too Tsunami, this has an additional 11 hit rating, the buff last 5 seconds longer as well, which if timed correctly, you can pop your Adrenaline rush, and bladeflurry, and have this armour penetration buff stacked the entire nuke, Ofcoarse however, a 4-5 point S&D should be poped just before you begin to nuke if your using a trinket like bloodlust brooch too improve your actual damage, not just your rate of sinister strikes, to maximise dps, if your using equip only trinkets this becomes pretty much irrelevant.

On the whole you can save yourself alot of DKP, seeing as this is rogue only and Void Reaver is probarbly the easiest boss out of the two tier 5 instances, and leo being considerably harder, therefore making this somewhat easier too obtain, seeing as voidreaver has too die whether you want too kill him or not for kael (untill patch 2.4 :( )

Tsunami may give you a slight bonus in DPS im not going too argue that, but, they are close and comparitable, however due too the demand for this compaired too Tsunami my advise would be too let it go, get Tsunami if its going cheap, but not worth burning your DKP over.

Another point is that, the lack of plus hit items in the SSC TK instances will mean getting alot of plus hit gems trinkets, coil contributes more hit, and my current crit is pretty low (25% going to hyjal soon) also Tsunami relies on crits too proc. Not really an issue swing so fast we crit so often but its just another consideration.

评论来自 118577

Just like armor penetration that becomes more valuable as you get more of it, this trinket becomes more valuable as well when you begin to stack up the armor penetration later in end-game content.

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