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评论来自
17792
Friggin feral pants. Blizzard for the love of god, stop putting dodge on dps leather! This crap is worse then assassination pants.
评论来自
Troklon
3.26 % dodge, 22 stamina and average armor, with it's 3 sockets even good legs for tanking
评论来自
18395
At first i didn't seem particually drawn to these as a druid because of the 'average' armour; but after considering the effects of the sockets they seem alot better.
Using 2 Delicate Living Rubies -
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24028
And 1 Shifting Nightseye -
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24055
Along with a Clefthide Armour Kit -
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29534
Gives this Item:
58 Agility
58 Stamina
28 Dodge Rating
1645 Armour (Thick Hide and Agility Added)
5.43% Dodge (Agi/Dodge Ratio used as 14.7/1)
870 Health (Assuming HotW)
2.32% Crit
56 Attack Power
Note: Calculations done based on changes coming in the next patch; currently the Armour would be higher.
Agility per Dodge value was done by my own testing, wont be perfect but it seems to be around 14.7 not 14.
评论来自
Vesper
Yes I would pass for druids, dodge is a pretty mediocre stat for rogues. Too bad there's no other leggings that drop in Karazhan that are clearly meant for rogues.
Midnight Legguards (
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30538#z0z
) from Quagmirran in The Slave Pens on Heroic is the best alternative. Warpscale Leggings (
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28347
) is excellent and "easy" to get but the crit rating will be changed to the "intended" dodge rating in patch 2.1.
评论来自
17438
These actually aren't that bad for pure PvE DPS on a rogue, throw 316AP gems in, a 40AP/10crit armor kit and you've got 172AP on just a pair of leggings. I would not, however take these over a feral druid, but I'm now using these over (
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29116
) for raid DPS, and sticking to the nomad's for PvP.
评论来自
32818
This chest is part of a "set" of items that have no connection to each other other than that they all share the same design style and color. Its basicly a reworking of the tier2 set, but now in brown and white.
I think its such a cool looking "set" that I would probably wear it around town despite having stuff that is better like the Tier4.
The Rogue/Feral items in Kara that go with the "set" are
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28601
,
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28741
,
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28506
,
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28545
,
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28755
Just to re-itterate, this is not an official "set", this is purely an aesthetic set that where obviously meant to go together.
评论来自
22941
dodge is the second druid's dmg migation. we personally want to have a lot of dodge so to make it easy on healers. but yea, there is a limit to how much dodge is good for u. for example, i would go between 33% to 38%. reason simply because of the dmg migation while maintaining a steady rage and threat output. this by far is a good tanking / dps pants for druid.
评论来自
2950
This item will get hit-rating instead of dodge-rating after the next patch.
New stats:
http://www.worldofraids.com/news/upgraded-epic-items/Skulkers_Greaves.gif
评论来自
54803
Quite possibly some of the best, if not the best, druids dps leggings there are until tier 5, and even then, they're comparable by about 10-15 ap and some crit, assuming you go for the +4 agi socket bonus w/ a Sovereign Nightseye. Socket these puppies w/ 3 Bold Living Rubies, and you're looking at 155 ap; that's 20 more ap than tier 4 AND a 28 hit rating. Pretty beast, imo.
评论来自
Ambrose
Socket these with Glinting Noble Topaz x2 (+4 hit, +4 agi), and a Rigid Dawnstone (+8 hit rating), you're looking at +44 hit from a single item. The only advantage of having Netherblade over this is to get higher +sta and AP.
Simply amazing for a raiding rogue.
评论来自
62611
I´d use them for cat and put 3x 8str gems, 153AP 1,28% crit +28hit.
评论来自
67029
What is the miss chance with no hit rating? If I remember correctly I think its 17% (May be wrong). Right now I have 265 hit rating and +16.8% chance to hit which gives me a .2% chance to miss and im not going to throw a fit about missing 1 in 500 swings. This seems like a downgrade from Midnight Leggings (
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30538#dropped-by
) which Im currently using because I lose a nice amount of crit for 9 hit rating and 25-30 (Im guesstimating) AP. With 1630 unbuffed AP, I find myself lacking crit and thats why these seem like somewhat of a downgrade. Im not saying these suck, but would like some opinions on rather its worth it or not.
By the way, the gems in my Midnight Leggings are Bright Living Ruby x2 (
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24031
) and Jagged Talasite (
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24067
). Thanks to those who respond! =)
评论来自
24974
For rogues:
With 3x these are better than tier4 leggings.
Netherblade Breeches = 43+84 = 127 AP
Skulker's Greaves = 32+64+48 = 144 AP
And Skulker's also have 2 more hit rating than tier4.
评论来自
24974
Head
:
Cowl of Defiance
Shoulder
:
Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless
Chest
:
Chestguard of the Conniver
Bracers
:
Bracers of Maliciousness
Gloves
:
Gloves of Dexterous Manipulation
Belt
:
Girdle of Treachery
Legs
:
Skulker's Greaves
Feet
:
Edgewalker Longboots
评论来自
83574
I'm a dedicated catform druid in my guild, and I got engaged in a discussion on which pants would be better, these or the Clefthoof Hide Leggings (
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31544
)
I have my Skulker's socketed with +8str, +8agi and +4agi/+6stam
(Bold Living Ruby, Delicate Living Ruby, Shifting Nightseye) so I will assume those in the comparison below.
Comparison:
Skulker's
Attack Power: 149,47 ((8*1.03*2.4)+((32+8+4)*1.03)+64)
Crit: 3.17% ((32+8+4*1.03)*0.07)
28 hit rating
Clefthoof Hide Leggings
Attack Power: 105.06
Crit: 2,16%
17 hit rating
Pure stat-wise it's obvious, Skulker's give more pew-pew. 44.41 more AP and 1.01% more crit.
The question we faced, tho, was about the hit rating. Can/does the 11 more hit rating on the Skulker's make the 18 feral combat skill on CHL superfluous? I'm not sure as to what it does exactly... 18 feral combat skill adds 4 weapon skill points. That would mean on raidbosses you'd be fighting with a 'lvl 71 weaponskill' so bosses would only be 2 levels higher than you in combat skill. That would make up for about 2% hit, maybe?
The problem is I'm not sure what feral combat skill calculates into, _exactly_. Any theorycrafter out there that could clear this up for me?
评论来自
113767
For the record, these are the best pants for a raiding rogue until T6 from Illidari Council.
EDIT - Socket 3 +hit gems
评论来自
TwoGlassEyes
If there are no rogues/druids in the raid that need these, they're decent hunter pants. They lack INT (and MP5, if you're into that), but the AGI plus the sockets would be better for SV hunters than Rip-Flayer Leggings (also from Netherspite) that have no agility.
It really depends on whether you need hit or INT more, but hunters shouldn't turn them down just because they're leather.
评论来自
zioncommand
As a raiding rogue, I would stack 3
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24051
. This will jump my hit rating over 300 :)
评论来自
144358
Those aren't bad either for Enhancement shamans. But Rogues/druids should still have priority.
评论来自
Machinassiah
These leggings actually provide more EP (enhancement points) than T6. Sad, really.
评论来自
71213
these leggings with 10 strenght gems and the purple leg enchant would give 174 attack power. u also get a small amount of crit and 28 hit rating. granted i think there is badge pants better than these for fury warriors but if you would rather spend your badges on something else like the new vendor weps these will do you just fine.
评论来自
150597
I socketed mine with
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24028
all the way down.
评论来自
styric
As a rogue, lost this pants to enchantment shaman since they can get benefit too. I was thinking this item built for a rogue mostly but to be honest socket bonus seems more like feral druid and blue socket(stamina?).
Anyway in my opinion druid>rogue>shaman on this item.
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