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评论来自
dpullen
Turn in to switch sides from Scryers to Aldor.
评论来自
chonchu
Don´t try to switch sides... you´ll burn yourself and give up on 1/2 way.
If this item don´t increase the reputation you want, trade for the ones you need. Its easy to find straight trades on reputation items between Aldor < - > Scryers.
评论来自
zenmastervex
By far the best place to farm these is Netherweb Ridge, around the area of 52, 81 (directly south of Allerian Stronghold, past Veil Shalas for those of you too lazy to get a coordinates mod). The poison on these guys is pretty strong. Unless cured, it's basically a guaranteed 1000 damage. I would like to note, however, that I have no nature resist at all, and I still full resist the posion around 30% of the time.
Mobs there are in the mid 60s, very easy for a competant person of level 70. If you find there is competetion there, it's probably just people doing quests. I find it easier to help them out, and ask if I can have the venom sacs when the quests are finished. Also, I've purchased quite a few at the rate of 1 gold per 3 sacs. Drop rate for me has been about 40%. I'm collecting roughly 40 sacs per hour, taking into account any eating/drinking time with moderate competetion for the spiders.
A side note: Because of the concentration of basilisks near the rivers, it's my opinion that it's easier to go from Aldor to Scryer. Good luck!
评论来自
Guran
To above poster, the Aldor -> Scryer rep has it's downsides because you always have to get across the rivers and rquires you to always keep moving around, so would say it's rather equal.
If you're going from most hated to neutral you need 1344 of these babies, that's over 4000 kills. About 17 hours of pure grinding fun if you kill one every 15 seconds
评论来自
Clinu
My friend says this gives Sha'tar rep as well.. so farming sacs and eyes would be easy way to get Sha'tar honored (if your server sells no tier 1 marks/signets at ah or are ridicilously overpriced) before you do the rep quests for Sha'tar.
Gonna confirm this for me later.
评论来自
Flatus
If you took the wrong faction when you selected which one you go, and want to change your faction with these immediatly, you will need about 100 sacs to change reputation to neutral with aldor. Best place to grind these is directly south from Allerian Stronghold.
评论来自
matrekoq8
they can be sold in the AH really cheap
评论来自
Blackriver
Contrary to what this page says, these can NOT in fact be milled from White Moth Eggs.
...
....yeah
评论来自
Darkcaporal
These drop from the
Dreadfang Widow
spiders found in the Bone Wastes of Terrokar Forest.
评论来自
06ambr
I had gained several af these venom sacs, both from AH and from grinding. Before turning in, I was at that point fully hated (at the 360.000 points). I didn't count, but after 10 or 11 turn-ins, my rep went from most hated to hostile at 300 points. 2 more turn-ins gave me hostile at around 600 points, which i find odd. Shouldn't it become smaller?
I will grind some more and return with what i experience.
评论来自
shinigurai
funny too see that these things are no longer available ingame under the pic. while i just got 56 of them in the last 30 min
评论来自
Jortiradan
Odd it says this item no longer available since it has been dropping off spiders as said above. I just looted 9 of them on June 9, 2010
评论来自
arachnid13
No, they don't. They only drop from
Dreadfang Widows
in the areas surrounding the bone wastes. Don't waste your time killing
Lurkers
.
评论来自
Gilgalas
just got exalted with Scryers this morning and did the first hand in and repeatable one and been farming sacs. Why is this missing from both spiders loot tables on Wowhead.
Seem it is corrected now. Thanks WowHead.
评论来自
Crucifisk
Aight, so
these things
drop off
Dreadfang Lurkers
and
Widows
and with an estimated (quite correct) drop rate of 34%. You turn these in, 8 by 8 to get 250 reputation per turn-in with
the Aldor
if you chose
the Scryers
by mistake, want to change for a pattern, going for the Feat of Strength achievement
Hero of Shattrath
or whatever reason you want to come up with.
Strained Supplies
is the way to turn in this things, although you
don't need the quest to loot them!
Correct, you can farm these without the quest which you might also want, because the
achievement
will require you (from 0/36000 Hated) to turn in, not one, not two, but
1344
of these beauties (
Warning
: This is a calculation based on the non-Human races, for a Human, that would be
1224
). Oh yes, that many. It takes you to Neutral, making you able to do quests for
the Aldor
, as well as
other
turn-in
quests
.
So how am I gonna get
1344
before I die, you ask? Well, here's the answer, aswell as a
good route
starting just outside the Alliance camp Allerian Stronghold (which is also a very good place to clear your bags in a way earning your money, unless you use addons like
Loot Filter
). So running back and forth between Allerian Stronghold and Netherweb Ridge south of it at the edge of Outland might not be so fun you think, but with the right resolve and some good music you can earn above 100 per hour. I succeeded in getting exacly 100 per hour a couple of times, so with some complex maths it's about
a 13-14 hour farm.
I noticed that instead of pressing "B" every few seconds to see how many you've got left to gather, you can fix a macro. Because the game won't let you drag non-usable items out on the bars, you can always make something simple, such as;
#showtooltip Dreadfang Venom Sac
Works really smooth. The icon shows how many you've got, and if you hold your mouse over it, it shows
how much gold you're wasting
not selling them to a vendor! (Combine this with an addon such as
BankItems
and you'll even see how many your account has, if you can't be arsed filling your farmer char's bags with them!)
So there you go, a small guide for farming the Feat of Strength achievement
Hero of Shattrath
!
Good luck! Oh, and don't go insane while at it!
*Note: Calculations and numbers are based from experiments and research done in WotLK, some may not be correct.*
评论来自
gtadem
Some good information here. Just wanted to add that by using an addon such as Button Forge, you can drag the venom sac straight onto an empty slot to track your progress instead of having to make a macro.
评论来自
gtadem
Good information here. Just wanted to add that if you use an addon such as Button Forge, you can just drag the venom sacs onto any empty spot to track your progress without making a macro.
评论来自
bookgirl
The drop rate is much MUCH lower than 34%.
评论来自
Lobsangludd
By far one of the more tedius rep grinds, Working on this now kinda makes me regret not doing it in wrath least then there would be a higher chance of seeing the sac's on the AH. So i now when leveling a new toon spend my time farming these on the toon between dungeons/bg's to alleviate some of the boredom
评论来自
Alayea
For a non-human character that has
声望阁下
, you now only need 1,224 of
巨牙毒囊
to go from full hated with Aldor to neutral.
评论来自
Cheatham
During the Hallow's End holiday, with the 10% reputation buff from the Wickerman and the 10% guild buff to reputation gain, my Tauren turned in 1040 venom sacs (130 turn-ins) at 300 reputation gain per turn-in (total 39000 rep gained) to become neutral with the Aldor.
评论来自
Cheatham
During the Hallow's End holiday, with the 10% reputation buff from the Wickerman and the 10% guild buff to reputation gain, my Tauren turned in 1120 venom sacs (140 turn-ins) at 300 reputation gain per turn-in (total 42000 rep gained) to become neutral with the Aldor.
评论来自
Thiron
is also a big help during Hallow's End - I'm currently getting over 150 per hour with awesome instant mounting.
评论来自
MMOSimca
Yep, I just got 88 in 24 minutes with instant mounting. You want to hit up both areas (the lurkers and the widows).
88/24 = 3 and 2/3
1120/3.6667 = 305.45
So during Hallow's End it takes roughly 5 hours to switch factions compared to the 11-13 hour estimates given above. I'd say those are probably wrong, but I would think you still save at least 3 or so hours during Hallow's End (mainly because of the broom - so if you're a druid, ignore this).
评论来自
exou
A comic depicting what I used to think these were for.
评论来自
Martoch
The drop rate seems higher from the
巨牙潜伏者
, as opposed to the
巨牙寡妇蛛
- say 25% more frequently from the Lurkers than the Widows.
(Having just ground out this reputation switch, I have want to see another damn spider - *ever*.)
评论来自
danodark
And don't you love how Blizz adds insult to injury. After grinding over 1200 of these, you can only turn in 8 at a time. This also took forever.
评论来自
Dwyvannion
Would also like to point out that Mik's Scrolling Battle Text addon
http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/mik-scrolling-battle-text
will tell you how much you have of a given item every time you loot it with floating battle text. It's awesome for herb farming and also works for rep grind items like these. No wasting of an action bar slot required.
评论来自
Krex9000
I am currently farming these venom sacs with this route:
http://imageshack.com/a/img208/5959/2owz.jpg
In my opinion it's pretty good, I obtain about 80 sacs per hour using this route.
评论来自
KingLich1
Used to switch sides from scryer to aldor
Here is a list of items which you can hand in and up until which level (for aldor rep):
Dreadfang Venom Sac per 8 until Neutral (
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10019
)
Mark of Kil'jaeden per 10 until Honored (
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10326
)
Mark of Sargeras per 10 until Exalted (
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10654
)
Fel Armament per 1 until Exalted (
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10421
) You will also receive dust for which you can buy items
评论来自
toppjubei
Hand in
巨牙毒囊
to
莎妮尔
in Shattrath City.
评论来自
StormTheGates
Current drop rates with a flying mount, going up and down the one strand path are about 100-120 an hour.
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