评论来自 dpullen

Turn in to switch sides from Scryers to Aldor.

评论来自 chonchu

Don´t try to switch sides... you´ll burn yourself and give up on 1/2 way.

If this item don´t increase the reputation you want, trade for the ones you need. Its easy to find straight trades on reputation items between Aldor < - > Scryers.

评论来自 zenmastervex

By far the best place to farm these is Netherweb Ridge, around the area of 52, 81 (directly south of Allerian Stronghold, past Veil Shalas for those of you too lazy to get a coordinates mod). The poison on these guys is pretty strong. Unless cured, it's basically a guaranteed 1000 damage. I would like to note, however, that I have no nature resist at all, and I still full resist the posion around 30% of the time.

Mobs there are in the mid 60s, very easy for a competant person of level 70. If you find there is competetion there, it's probably just people doing quests. I find it easier to help them out, and ask if I can have the venom sacs when the quests are finished. Also, I've purchased quite a few at the rate of 1 gold per 3 sacs. Drop rate for me has been about 40%. I'm collecting roughly 40 sacs per hour, taking into account any eating/drinking time with moderate competetion for the spiders.

A side note: Because of the concentration of basilisks near the rivers, it's my opinion that it's easier to go from Aldor to Scryer. Good luck!

评论来自 Guran

To above poster, the Aldor -> Scryer rep has it's downsides because you always have to get across the rivers and rquires you to always keep moving around, so would say it's rather equal.

If you're going from most hated to neutral you need 1344 of these babies, that's over 4000 kills. About 17 hours of pure grinding fun if you kill one every 15 seconds

评论来自 Clinu

My friend says this gives Sha'tar rep as well.. so farming sacs and eyes would be easy way to get Sha'tar honored (if your server sells no tier 1 marks/signets at ah or are ridicilously overpriced) before you do the rep quests for Sha'tar.

Gonna confirm this for me later.

评论来自 Flatus

If you took the wrong faction when you selected which one you go, and want to change your faction with these immediatly, you will need about 100 sacs to change reputation to neutral with aldor. Best place to grind these is directly south from Allerian Stronghold.

评论来自 matrekoq8

they can be sold in the AH really cheap

评论来自 Blackriver

Contrary to what this page says, these can NOT in fact be milled from White Moth Eggs.

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....yeah

评论来自 Darkcaporal

These drop from the Dreadfang Widow spiders found in the Bone Wastes of Terrokar Forest.

评论来自 06ambr

I had gained several af these venom sacs, both from AH and from grinding. Before turning in, I was at that point fully hated (at the 360.000 points). I didn't count, but after 10 or 11 turn-ins, my rep went from most hated to hostile at 300 points. 2 more turn-ins gave me hostile at around 600 points, which i find odd. Shouldn't it become smaller?

I will grind some more and return with what i experience.

评论来自 shinigurai

funny too see that these things are no longer available ingame under the pic. while i just got 56 of them in the last 30 min

评论来自 Jortiradan

Odd it says this item no longer available since it has been dropping off spiders as said above. I just looted 9 of them on June 9, 2010

评论来自 arachnid13

No, they don't. They only drop from Dreadfang Widows in the areas surrounding the bone wastes. Don't waste your time killing Lurkers.

评论来自 Gilgalas

just got exalted with Scryers this morning and did the first hand in and repeatable one and been farming sacs. Why is this missing from both spiders loot tables on Wowhead.

Seem it is corrected now. Thanks WowHead.

评论来自 Crucifisk

Aight, so these things drop off Dreadfang Lurkers and Widows and with an estimated (quite correct) drop rate of 34%. You turn these in, 8 by 8 to get 250 reputation per turn-in with the Aldor if you chose the Scryers by mistake, want to change for a pattern, going for the Feat of Strength achievement Hero of Shattrath or whatever reason you want to come up with.

Strained Supplies is the way to turn in this things, although you don't need the quest to loot them! Correct, you can farm these without the quest which you might also want, because the achievement will require you (from 0/36000 Hated) to turn in, not one, not two, but 1344 of these beauties (Warning: This is a calculation based on the non-Human races, for a Human, that would be 1224). Oh yes, that many. It takes you to Neutral, making you able to do quests for the Aldor, as well as other turn-in quests.

So how am I gonna get 1344 before I die, you ask? Well, here's the answer, aswell as a good route starting just outside the Alliance camp Allerian Stronghold (which is also a very good place to clear your bags in a way earning your money, unless you use addons like Loot Filter). So running back and forth between Allerian Stronghold and Netherweb Ridge south of it at the edge of Outland might not be so fun you think, but with the right resolve and some good music you can earn above 100 per hour. I succeeded in getting exacly 100 per hour a couple of times, so with some complex maths it's about a 13-14 hour farm.

I noticed that instead of pressing "B" every few seconds to see how many you've got left to gather, you can fix a macro. Because the game won't let you drag non-usable items out on the bars, you can always make something simple, such as;

#showtooltip Dreadfang Venom Sac

Works really smooth. The icon shows how many you've got, and if you hold your mouse over it, it shows how much gold you're wasting not selling them to a vendor! (Combine this with an addon such as BankItems and you'll even see how many your account has, if you can't be arsed filling your farmer char's bags with them!)

So there you go, a small guide for farming the Feat of Strength achievement Hero of Shattrath!

Good luck! Oh, and don't go insane while at it!

*Note: Calculations and numbers are based from experiments and research done in WotLK, some may not be correct.*

评论来自 gtadem

Some good information here. Just wanted to add that by using an addon such as Button Forge, you can drag the venom sac straight onto an empty slot to track your progress instead of having to make a macro.

评论来自 gtadem

Good information here. Just wanted to add that if you use an addon such as Button Forge, you can just drag the venom sacs onto any empty spot to track your progress without making a macro.

评论来自 bookgirl

The drop rate is much MUCH lower than 34%.

评论来自 Lobsangludd

By far one of the more tedius rep grinds, Working on this now kinda makes me regret not doing it in wrath least then there would be a higher chance of seeing the sac's on the AH. So i now when leveling a new toon spend my time farming these on the toon between dungeons/bg's to alleviate some of the boredom

评论来自 Alayea

For a non-human character that has 声望阁下, you now only need 1,224 of 巨牙毒囊 to go from full hated with Aldor to neutral.

评论来自 Cheatham

During the Hallow's End holiday, with the 10% reputation buff from the Wickerman and the 10% guild buff to reputation gain, my Tauren turned in 1040 venom sacs (130 turn-ins) at 300 reputation gain per turn-in (total 39000 rep gained) to become neutral with the Aldor.

评论来自 Cheatham

During the Hallow's End holiday, with the 10% reputation buff from the Wickerman and the 10% guild buff to reputation gain, my Tauren turned in 1120 venom sacs (140 turn-ins) at 300 reputation gain per turn-in (total 42000 rep gained) to become neutral with the Aldor.

评论来自 Thiron

is also a big help during Hallow's End - I'm currently getting over 150 per hour with awesome instant mounting.

评论来自 MMOSimca

Yep, I just got 88 in 24 minutes with instant mounting. You want to hit up both areas (the lurkers and the widows).

88/24 = 3 and 2/3
1120/3.6667 = 305.45

So during Hallow's End it takes roughly 5 hours to switch factions compared to the 11-13 hour estimates given above. I'd say those are probably wrong, but I would think you still save at least 3 or so hours during Hallow's End (mainly because of the broom - so if you're a druid, ignore this).

评论来自 exou

A comic depicting what I used to think these were for.

评论来自 Martoch

The drop rate seems higher from the 巨牙潜伏者, as opposed to the 巨牙寡妇蛛 - say 25% more frequently from the Lurkers than the Widows. (Having just ground out this reputation switch, I have want to see another damn spider - *ever*.)

评论来自 danodark

And don't you love how Blizz adds insult to injury. After grinding over 1200 of these, you can only turn in 8 at a time. This also took forever.

评论来自 Dwyvannion

Would also like to point out that Mik's Scrolling Battle Text addon http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/mik-scrolling-battle-text will tell you how much you have of a given item every time you loot it with floating battle text. It's awesome for herb farming and also works for rep grind items like these. No wasting of an action bar slot required.

评论来自 Krex9000

I am currently farming these venom sacs with this route: http://imageshack.com/a/img208/5959/2owz.jpg

In my opinion it's pretty good, I obtain about 80 sacs per hour using this route.

评论来自 KingLich1

Used to switch sides from scryer to aldor

Here is a list of items which you can hand in and up until which level (for aldor rep):

Dreadfang Venom Sac per 8 until Neutral (http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10019)

Mark of Kil'jaeden per 10 until Honored (http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10326)

Mark of Sargeras per 10 until Exalted (http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10654)

Fel Armament per 1 until Exalted (http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10421) You will also receive dust for which you can buy items

评论来自 toppjubei

Hand in 巨牙毒囊 to 莎妮尔 in Shattrath City.

评论来自 StormTheGates

Current drop rates with a flying mount, going up and down the one strand path are about 100-120 an hour.

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