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评论来自
InfinityX
Drops from the final boss of each 5-man instance in Outland, both on Normal and Heroic modes. In Normal mode, each instance's final boss has a 5% chance to drop it, while in Heroic mode, it is a guaranteed drop.
评论来自
Veden
This item has dropped both times that my group killed the end boss in Heroic Mode Slave pens and Steamvault. It most likely has a 100% chance of dropping in heroic mode from the final boss of the instance.
It also has a small chance (5-10%) of dropping from normal high instances beginning with Old Hillsbrad and Sethekk Halls.
评论来自
16961
The Primal Nethers are a great way to make sure that the market is not flooded by the new craftable items. Though it will literally be a pain in the ass for the crafter himselfherself to get the Primal Nether, as it is bind on pickup, it will be worth it in the end, and the items has a potential of selling for a better price than you'd get in the past.
评论来自
4130
Make sure to explain to party members what this is (and that it's BOP) when it drops, because not everyone is a crafter who can actually make use of Primal Nether.
评论来自
10076
What is a reasonable price to charge for crafting an item that uses a nether? I'm trying to figure out how much is fair to pay/charge.
评论来自
Jetro
- Blizzard's way of limiting the effects of gold buying and farming mats (it's a pain but it's probably best for the game)
- 100% drop rate from last boss in heroic instances
- approx 5% drop rate from last boss in non-heroic (confirmed Shadow Labs, Mechonar)
- depending on server, anywhere from 200g to 1000g to request an item made with a primal nether
评论来自
11664
Bosses known to drop Primal Nethers on NON-Heroic instances (as of Patch 2.0.8) {Keep in mind for Non-Heroic instances the drop rate is close to 5% - The only exception is Talon king who seems to be closer to 3%} All heroic END bosses drop them at a 100% drop rate (Need a confirm on this)
HELLFIRE CITADEL
Warchief Kargath Bladefist - The Shattered Halls
TEMPEST KEEP
Pathaleon the Calculator ---- The Mechanar
Harbinger Skyriss ------------ The Arcatraz
Warp Splinter ----------------- The Botanica
COILFANG RESERVOIR
Warlord Kalithresh ------------The Steamvault
CAVERNS OF TIME
Aeonus ----------------------- The Black Morass
AUCHINDOUN
Murmur ------------------------- Shadow Labyrinth
Talon King Ikiss --------------- Sethekk Halls
评论来自
42344
So TBC has been out for awhile now and more and more are running the heroics for that 100% Primal Nether drop. So what exactly are crafters getting for the trouble of completing an heroic?
Assuming I provide all the mats and this is someone out on trade channel and not a well known guildie, how much is a reasonable price to pay to have them craft the item with them providing the precious Primal Nether required?
评论来自
Magmy
Ommra (a Blue CM for WoW-Europe) just made a post on the European Professions Forum stating that Primal Nether will be sold by G'eras for Badges of Justice starting in 2.1.0.
评论来自
19246
12 Badges of Justice for 1 Primal Nether
评论来自
retro
What should people charge for these if included in a crafting recipe such as Vengeance Wrap/Unyielding Girdle?
评论来自
4274
The value of a primal nether, now that they've priced em with badges of justice, can be determined by a comparison through approximate AH value. For example:
Mana Binder's Cowl costs 50 badges.
crafted equivelent, with nether, is the Spellstrike Hood. The mats for this, on my server, cost approximately 1000 gold. 1000 divided by 50 comes to 20. 20 gold per badge. So, if a nether is 10 badges, then at 20 gold a badge a nether is worth 200 gold.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32089
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24266
评论来自
Kathucka
The drop table for this item has the interesting side effect of showing which instances are completed most often in Heroic mode. Currently, it shows 7252 end boss kills for Mechanar, but only 322 for Old Hillsbrad Foothills.
For those who don't know, the Primal Nether is not the only reason to run a Heroic dungeon.
Each boss drops a Badge of Justice, which can be used to purchase general-purpose epic necklaces, rings, off-hands, shields, headpieces, cloaks, and trinkets. They are also used for the best fire resist boots, gloves, chest pieces, and leggings in the game. The trinkets, in particular, are very good.
Each boss drops level 68-70 superior (blue) items. For dungeons that are level 70 runs in normal mode, this loot is the same. For dungeons that are not level 70 in normal mode, the bosses use a different loot table.
Each boss has a chance to drop an epic gem. The end boss is guaranteed to drop an epic item, in addition to a badge and the two superior items. This epic item might be a gem.
Trash monsters award 25% more reputation than normal mode. All monsters award reputation up to exalted, even if they did not do so in normal mode. Bosses also award considerably more reputation, although I don't have a formula handy for that.
What's the catch? The catch is that trash monster attacks and spells hit *much* harder than before. They will kill anyone but a well-armored tank in 2-4 hits. They also have a little more health. Bosses also hit harder (a few hit much harder), have more health, and have more abilities. On trash, each pull must have flawless healing, crowd-control, and tanking. A single mistake means a fast wipe, almost every time.
The epics attainable via heroic runs are typically one step below Karazhan epics. The badge system makes some of them a viable way to fill in gear gaps.
评论来自
74538
What's the lowest level that you can get a nether (assuming 4 well geared 70's to run you through whatever)? I'd love to be able to get one of the epic engineering helms at 50, if that's feasible :-D
so which instance has the lowest entry requirement, or is there another source that has lower?
评论来自
Ruthulous
I had 2 drop off the last boss of Steamvaults in Normal mode. Not sure if it was a bug.
评论来自
82484
How much would one expect to pay someone for their Primal Nether?
example: I supply the mats to someone to craft a Spellstrike Hood albeit with their nether. 100g? 200g? Less?
评论来自
QFred
Not a bug, but you were extremely lucky.
评论来自
BlakMajik
In theory, if you have a nice enough guild with the right 70s on at any given time, you can farm these. Sure it'll be a pain, but you don't need them until level 70 anyway. Being a ret pally with BS, I'm going to need 8 for Deep Thunder. Hopefully my guild friends will help me farm these. Suggestion: Do with friends who will help you farm, as long as they don't need any either.
评论来自
93626
Be careful, they sell for 1.6 g each now, someone will "need" them for 1.6g.
评论来自
92384
Are my friends and I just exceedingly lucky with these, or does it seem like the drop rate for non-heroics has been bumped up recently?
Out of the past 10 combined slabs and SV we've run, we've quite literally gotten no fewer than 6 primal nethers and I honestly think the real number might be 7 or 8. I cannot remember the last Murmur that didn't drop one and the last 3 Kalithreshes in a row I've done have also dropped.
I realize it's all chance and such, but at a rate of 5% it's incredibly improbable to get the results we've gotten lately... lucky or not.
评论来自
Wedmark
As a Retribution Paladin I really find it almost impossible to get these.
Eight of them is needed for
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28441
And I always get mocked from heroic PG's. And I simply refuse to waste 10 epic badges / 1 rare nether.
评论来自
127207
In patch 2.4, these are no longer soulbound!
Source:
http://www.worldofraids.com/
评论来自
121176
As of Patch 2.4 these are no longer Bind on Pick up.
评论来自
76056
It will probably be a bit less then most crafters ask for their Nether
On my server it goes in most cases between 90g-100g crafting costs so I guess the price will be around this price along the lines of 70-80g if I'm optimist. People who have nowhere to spend their badges anymore (like those who have full BT gear) can buy Nethers with their badges and sell them for some quick extra cash...
评论来自
Nyito
What are your normal rolling policies for these? I've yet to run Heroics, so I'd like to know if crafters who can use them need or greed as a rule.
评论来自
JayRay
As soon as I can log on, I am putting my nethers up on the AH for 80g, just to get a price started, it will likely go down from there, but it will be interesting to see what happens to the economy.
评论来自
Benegesserit
Now everyone who gave people like me crap about mentioning the need for BoE and downvoting intellegent posts can hang their head in shame now that Blizzard made these BoE.
评论来自
Badaccus
Bought two of the genjuros horde Ah for 23 g a piece, seems like a fair price to me = D
/Badaccus
评论来自
43740
Apparently no primal nether drops from the mini-Kael at the end of Heroic Magister's Terrace.
I haven't run any other heroics since 2.4 - does this only affect mini-Kael?
It seems the "primal nethers drop from the final boss of each 5-man instance in Outland" does strictly mean "Outland."
评论来自
Rarehunter
Just for everyone's information, Primal Nethers can be placed in Enchanting bags, as well as all other Primals and Motes. Apparently they can be placed in a few other profession bags, but I need confirm on that.
评论来自
Atahan
actually its not 100 gold each
评论来自
145645
can u buy this in AH
评论来自
Cartographer
Drops from Kael in Magister's Terrace now.
评论来自
173946
Instead of buying primal nethers for 10 Badges, get five more badges and buy a nether vortex. Sell this on the auction house and buy 2-5 primal nethers.
评论来自
rzzr
With WOTLK coming soon my advice is to sell any stock you have of these in the AH while you can. They are mainly used for making level 70 items and I suspect they will have little use in WOTLK.
On my server they sell for just over 20g a piece and I can only see them getting cheaper. By all means keep a few but if you have stacks in your bank you should head down to the AH pronto!
评论来自
177733
i won the roll on this in the daily heroic and i thought sweeeeeet! thats 100g towards epic flyer so i went to the AH and seen they were selling for 15g... every since the wotlk realese date my servers economy has gone to %^&* and its getting tougher getting groups for raids everyone just doesnt care anymore :'(
评论来自
151016
Anyone seen this dropping from Northrend bosses?
评论来自
151016
Did anyone else notice that the price for these dropped from 100g each to 10g each?
Also, do these drop from Northrend instances?
评论来自
8inchunbuffed
After the release of Wrath of the Lich King, the value in these have dropped substantially.
评论来自
294849
Any reason for not vendoreing these nowadays ?
Dlavroth
评论来自
554114
I got 4 of them shall i vendor them i don't know if its worth in AH?
评论来自
776141
For some reason, I bought these on AH to resell as Vendor trash and they ended up in my Enchanting bag, though I didn't see any enchants listed in the Reagents for tab. Anyone know why that'd happen?
评论来自
420449
only value for these is bc epic craft gears
评论来自
878376
I think those will regain some of theirs value when transmogrifier hits the game :)
评论来自
Koviko
As of Cataclysm, these are a good source for quick cash. Wowhead's average buyout price is below the vendor price, so you'll oftentimes find these on the AH for less than their vendor price. Buy them and instantly sell them.
评论来自
Steelhide
I don't know when they changed it but the drop rate isn't 100% for these any more. I just did all 15 TBC dungeons on heroic and only got 9 of them.
However, I have been doing Sethekk halls every day for the last couple of months and the final boss gave me one every single time. Who knows?
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