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评论来自
RiSK
This item has a pretty high proc rate, however, has a 50% chance on successful block to take 1 point of durability.
It has some good points, and some bad points. Namely:
Good:
1) Additional damage = additional aggro.
2) High proc rate.
3) Great for multiple target aggro.
4) Decent stats.
Bad:
1) Can break CC (Sheep, sap, etc.)
2) Can get real expensive, and may not last an entire instance run. (read: raid)
3) Does require you to be a 300 Engineer.
Overall, a great situational piece. Has its ups and downs, and may be good just in certain situations.
评论来自
Sapphidia
I'm a 70 prot tank and I still have one of these babies in my bags at all times, hotkeyed to switch to it in combat at a pinch. It's the sole reason i'm keeping Engineering. It's quite simply one of the most useful items I've ever made as a tank.
Absolutely nothing compares to the damage and AOE aggro that this thing can spew out when you're facing huge hordes of mobs. The birds in Sethekk, the swarms of skeletons in Auchenai, tanking bug adds in TAQ on Fankriss, tanking gauntlets of non-elites. Any kind of situation where you're facing lesser mobs, perhaps 8 or more at once (enough to make thunderclap, cleaving and tab-revenge/sundering not quite good enough to reliably hold aggro), this thing shines. It does more and more damage the more things there are that attack you, as each block returns the damage to -everything- around you, not just the monster who's attack you blocked.
This is not a shield for regular use. You keep it in your bags, and when you get swarmed by hundreds of mobs, swap to this shield, aoe taunt, and the constant blasts of nature damage should keep most things glued to you. The low armor compared to 70 shields, low stamina, and lack of defense make it very situational, but I -urge- any Warrior who's an engineer to make themselves one of these and try it on a large pack of mobs. It's surprisingly cheap to make too, despite being an epic pattern from MC.
The durability can be an issue. 50% chance on a block to lose a durability, so you're looking at 240 blocks on average before it breaks. But, you wont be using this shield to tank an instance with, you'll just have it in your bags for certain pulls, and you can swap to your normal shield in combat once the vasty majority of mobs have been taken out.
Easily the most fun item I own. The lightshow when you're tanking 10-20 mobs at once is worth the cost of the mats alone.
评论来自
109634
having this and Thunderfury would be insane! must be quite a firework display
评论来自
2672
if you want a dmg returning sheild,
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25828
from sporegar has more armor, block value, str stam and does not take dur when it procs and does not require eng (+ its free)
评论来自
116177
not a half bad shield....... me want
评论来自
63403
It should be noted that this shield can only "proc" once per second.
Thus once you have enough mobs to cause one block per second, adding more mobs does not increase the damage it puts out per-mob.
EDIT: This cooldown has been removed or shortened with patch 2.4: I use it on the worm pulls in the hallway in Magister's Terrace and it is going off more frequently then before. That hallway alone puts it down to less then 10 durability.
评论来自
79259
Anyone know how much this costs to repair? I'm about to make one for my pally and I want an idea of wether or not I should use it to aoe farm.
Edit: Also, anyone have numbers on the damage from this proc?
评论来自
Idocreating
According to Wowhead, the AoE effect upon blocking does 25 to 35 Nature damage.
This is comparable to Petrified Lichen Guard, which at 5 stacks does 60 damage every 3 seconds. This shield is far superior when lots of things are beating you, however the Lichen Guard is a superior farming/AoE tanking shield overall because:
1) This shield will break very quickly in sustained tanking
2) Repairs cost money, cutting into profits made from AoE grinding.
评论来自
Quest
Back in the day, the AOE damage used to scale with +DMG gear. ...
At a rate of 1:1
Paladins long before BC with 400-500 +DMG with this on and 10+ mobs were doing DPS compatible to a well geared raid rogue right now.
You can imagine that it got nerfed soon after that first well geared paladin slapped it on and things just died. Quickly.
评论来自
51974
This owns for the wyrm pulls in Magister's Terrace.
评论来自
93865
It does not fit in an engineering bag. Incredibly lame.
Changed as of 3.1.
评论来自
46483
Comparison with
Petrified Lichen Guard
:
Petrified Lichen Guard
causes a DoT which causes 12 nature damage every 3 seconds and quickly stacks to 5. 12 * 5 / 3 = 20, so the end result of this is that every target beating on you is soon taking 20 DPS.
Force Reactive Disk
causes an average of 30 nature damage to every target within 5 yards every time you block. The amount of blocking you'll be doing will vary depending on your block rating and the attack speed of the mobs attacking you, but generally, if you've got a big cloud of mobs in front of you, you can expect a near-constant stream of lightning out of your shield.
The more mobs that are attacking you, the more damage
each one
will take
(unlike the Lichen Guard, which does a constant amount of damage against every mob attacking you).
All of this is of course independent of any other reflective damage you may be doing. (Examples:
Retribution Aura
,
Felsteel Shield Spike
,
Darkmoon Card: Vengeance
, etc.)
For killing lots of mobs very quickly, the Force Reactive Disk is the clear winner for as long as it lasts, especially against mobs that die quickly and therefore won't have time for the DoT to stack. You get about 240 blocks out of it before it's time for a trip to the repairman. If you're swimming in cash, get a second one made. Keep the Lichen Guard in your bags for regular use and switch to this when you want a big DPS burst. (If you're tanking a single tough creature, such as a boss, the Lichen Guard is better both for its DoT and for its armor, block rating, and stamina, but you should probably be using a "normal" shield for that anyway.)
Summary: This is an utterly amazing item for tanking engineers, with far better AoE DPS output than the already-cool Petrified Lichen Guard. It doesn't last very long, it costs money to use, and you must be an engineer to equip it, but it's the best shield in the game for quickly burning down large groups of mobs. If you can find an engineer who's a veteran of Molten Core, get them to make you one or more without delay.
评论来自
Heenk
This is the only shield currently in the game that requires a profession to use.
edit: Still true as of today, almost 6 years after I originally posted this comment.
评论来自
158339
No-one's mentioned that this shield's the one that Gelbin Mekkatorque in Tinker Town has :)
Just thought to add that, as a roleplayer, because getting a perfect Mekkatorque outfit was one of the first things I did on my 70 gnome warrior.
评论来自
280141
Can any paladins comment on the remaining usefulness of this item, in wotlk? As I understand, the damage does not scale with anything, and thus does a flat 30 aoe damage when it procs. That is 240 blocks, meaning 7200 aoe damage.
So is this thing even useful anymore, given consecration and retribution aura?
评论来自
240479
you can really have some fun I have realized with nature damage in this game. Every one keeps referring to this shield's proc as a "light show" if that is the case why not bump it up to the next level and apply a
Crystal Spire
to all that AOE, heck. Even poping
Ramstien's Lighting Bolts
on cooldown will really light up the room. Before you pull anything though be sure to get your fill of
Stormchops
because more random lighting is always fun. Speaking of more lightning that brings to mind the
Thunder Capacitor
to mind. What good would all this be if your target had some kind of resistance to nature damage however... I know! lets get some NR de-buffs up there by procking a few
Thunderfury
swings!
...now we are talking light show.
As of right now, all I'm missing for my epic AOE light show is my Baron binding /sad panda
评论来自
93865
As of 3.1, the shield has been changed - it now fits in an engineering bag!
评论来自
Kalx
This shield is still great in WotLK, for AoE threat generation against large groups of monters. Use shield block/holy shield then switch to this shield and the monsters won't ever give you up, and you're not letting down your partners on the raid/instance! If you're an tank and are engineer, have one of these all the time in your bags, it WILL be worth it.
Only use it in groups of 4+ monsters, it's where this shield shows it's true potential, and, as someone posted above, a really nice light show.
评论来自
234080
This shield holds an electrical charge of TEN million volts. Lets see how you like this!
评论来自
Noyjitat
Disregard this post, Just got it crafted.
No longer needed as I managed to find a very nice undead to craft this for me.
Can anyone on Azuremyst make this? Horde side please? Add noyjitat to your friends list ingame and send me a tell or send me some mail. I'd love to get this crafted at some point.
I'll update my post when I no longer need assistance.
评论来自
Naris17
I just realized that this would be a perfect thing to bring Jeeves along to polish(repair)...
评论来自
DrCheis
Appears to be the same shield used by
High Tinker Mekkatorque
.
评论来自
160546
Great in AoE for when used in conjunction with
Shield Block
to force a LOT of blocks and aoe dps/threat.
评论来自
448060
240*30 = 7200 dmg to a single target, obviously multiplied per mob you have sitting in front of you.
That's how it
used to
work. I loved this shield. I used to pull all of Gnomer in one massive pull using it. I just tried it on the Onyxia whelp achievement and does not have that exponential damage curve any longer. The proc appears to have the standard AoE damage cap. Either way it's nerfed for AoE and that was it's only use. Now it's just a toy with fond memories.
From my log:
# of Blocks: 84
Force reactive disk Procs:
---------------------------------
# of hits (crits): 452 (91)
avg hit (crits): 8.6 (13.7)
total dmg: 5142
Compare to that the damage I did with Ret aura (79006) and Consecration* (231388) in the same period of time and force reactive disk's proc is negligible. Force Reactive Disk proc is laughable even compared the 31742 dmg done by a single Global Thermal Sapper Charge.
Expected damage without an AoE cap doing 25-35 damage would be 16290 total damage excluding crits instead of the observed 5142. So results were less than a 3rd of the math said it should have been. Ashame. I really loved this shield. It's still exceptionally good for AoE dps at lvl 60 but I can't think of a single reason why anyone would want to use it even at 60 given other options.
*Consecration doesn't have an AoE cap. Sapper charge does have a cap and also did a 3rd of what it should have.
评论来自
448060
The spell "Shield Block"
used to
do the following:
Increases chance to block and block value by 100% for 10 sec
. Note the doubling of block value. The discussion is based on that.
Yes it was bad threat based on that ability. Why? Because other warrior threat generating abilities were based off of the (now defunct) block value stat. For example, the old shield slam. Tiny block value x2 = still tiny block value. If you gimped your block value, you gimped your other abilities that generated dmg and threat.
Read what I said above:
That's how it used to work.
It's still exceptionally good for AoE dps at lvl 60
but I can't think of a single reason why anyone would want to use it even at 60 given other options.
It's bad threat because you are using theory and not testing that theory. I tested it and had real numbers to back up what I said above. It wasn't doing anywhere close to 12000 total dmg in 10 sec (or even 20sec) in a best case scenario. That's with it damage capped so there's no possibility of increasing it past that cap. I'm not the only one who tested it and found out what it really does.
Other posters above
came to similar conclusions.
It's bad because it is only good for one specific thing: AoE tanking at lvl 60-61. Except that situation
does not exist
. If you want threat and dps, grab a green "of Strength" shield from Burning Crusade. Those have +23 Strength which will get you further. If you want aoe dmg/threat then throw a bomb. You'll be 30 times better off than this shield.
评论来自
Aliok
This shield has a model unique among player-equipped gear. If you are looking for an interesting shield for transmogrification, then Force Reactive Disk ought to be among your considerations. Off-topic: that item name makes the science nerd in me giggle every time.
评论来自
QuickBASIC
Chain pulling
地狱火城墙
at level 63, the shield did ~4000 of my damage the whole instance out of a total of 640,000 damage I did. Still worth wearing while leveling until you find better because the bonus armor is probably quite a bit higher than the armor on the leveling shield you've picked up along the way.
评论来自
Lostelle
For RPers who don't fancy re-training to engineering just to get a shield:
A great alternative to this is
Gizlocke's Hypertech Buckler
. It's a 30% droprate, blue BoP shield from a level 35 dungeon boss, so even most RP characters shouldn't have too much trouble soloing it.
评论来自
lokuv
Steampunk xmog - warriors, paladins, and shaman rejoice!
评论来自
1377379
Just to let others know, you do NOT have to know the schematic to use this. You only have to be an engineer. I had some guy tip me 1000g to craft this for him. He said He hates MC after running it 1000 times with no drop. Crap luck for him I guess. I get this almost every week. :) Mogit(Transmog add-on) Is saying this is mogable also.
评论来自
Her0fwar
Hey , is there anyone that can craft one of these , i can pay 20 k also have some of the mats required , i don't seem to have any luck at drops on my chars.I'm on Jaedenar-EU, Hérofwar, add me. GL
评论来自
xgru
I love this shield!
Where is the upgraded version Blizzard?
Been waiting so long!
评论来自
DaRiUzZ
You NEED 300 vanilla engineering to even transmog the thing, Don't do what i did making the damn thing expecting to have a cool shield for my low level paladin and warrior, Just get Gizlock's shield from Maraudon.
评论来自
Antoraal
Is this worth crafting? Do people buy this on the AH?
评论来自
Gannon
Will look great with either the Gnomish or Goblin heritage armor sets!
评论来自
Timmond
I am not sure when this change happened, but in order to equip and/or use the item appearance for transmog, you only need to be level 1 in Classic Engineering instead of level 300.
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