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评论来自
3118
Assuming Blizz doesn't create an item that simply has a higher % or changes the extra-hit system, this item will scale forever. Whether you're getting an extra hit with a Dal Rend blade or an Ancient Qiraji Ripper, or even the 284 DPS Main hand in WoW's 4th expansion, an extra hit always scales with the weapons.
This really shines when you take tons of hits, like a rogue or fury warrior or even certain pally styles. Although not much is better than a free instant second 2h hit, there are simply fewer chances to get that 2% to proc with a slower weapon.
If you get this and don't use it for a while, keep it anyways, when BC comes out it might be the only one of it's kind.
Also, it stacks with all other super-haste/instant swing items/spells/abilities.
评论来自
639
Since patch 2.0, the equip on this item was changed to a 'chance' to gain an extra hit, instead of a '2% chance'. This change might reflect that it won't scale as well anymore.
评论来自
frmrpreztaft
As a raiding warrior with MC/BWL dps gear, i can say tha this is one of THE BEST (if not the best) melee DPS trinkets out there. HoJ + Sword Spec + Windfury Totem = WTFDMG.
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for any Melee class.
评论来自
kcorb
I used this constantly on my Rogue when I was PvE Sword Spec.
HoJ+Blade Flurry+Adrenaline Rush+Sinister Strike Spam =WTFDMGOUTPUT
评论来自
SignupSucks
Does this effect work with attacks in druid forms? The convention it follows makes me believe it does, but I am not certain, as I've never heard of a druid with one.
评论来自
25643
This thing should be marked orange, I use it still at 70 with my lionheart blade and sword spec. I've had 2 extra attack right after another a countless times. I need to find a very very good trinket before this thing gets replaced. Really no matter what lvl you are, go get this trinket as warrior , rogue whatever.
It should be a legendary item.
评论来自
28406
Invaluable.
"Chance on hit" is around 5%. The following is from wowwiki. Even though it states that it's a weapon property, the article describes the same statistic applied to Paladin seals and other items.
"A property of a weapon that has a power with a chance of activating on each hit. Sometimes the chance is listed as a percentage (%). Most often there is no direct indication of how often that "chance" occurs. Although there is no official documentation on how often a Chance on Hit works, or proc's, around 5% sounds likely."
When I was 60, I used the Halberd of Smiting which had the chance on hit to decapitate your target for ~600 damage. Same thing as the Doomsaw at level 60. Chance on hit was definitely more than 2%, which is what this trinket used to be.
One of the old benefits of this trinket being +2% (though now it's been changed to chance on hit) was that it could be added to the sword skill % increase, plus the sword spec talent % increase. However, changing this to "Chance on Hit" benefits all classes now.
As a sword spec HUMAN warrior with the racial ability for extra sword skill as well as the arms talent spec that adds additional weapon skill, with this trinket, I proc extra attacks all the time at level 70. Even though this trinket is a separate percentage that is not added in with the sword skill, but it's own proc, It still kicks in on a regular basis.
I can't imagine throwing this away ever.
评论来自
30275
here are my procwatch results:
hits :575
procs :14
time 09:18 (for those unfamiliar with procwatch, that is the time in-combat only)
hits/proc :41
procs/min :1.5
so that would be 14 procs out of 575 hits giving 2.4% proc. of course its going to vary but unless those were extremely lucky 9:18 minutes of in-combat time, the proc rate doesnt seem to have changed much from the original 2% chance. at least for me.
评论来自
Bojo
Thottbot says it can be dropped from General angerforge too, not only the emperor. You need the key to get to him thou. To get the key, you must die, Talk to a Forgewright in Forgewright's tomb inside BRM, take the quest, listen to his story, then you get a quest to go inside BRD, and the reward is the key to Angerforge. If he CAN drop the key, it's better to farm Angerforge rather than emperor. (im talking about lvl 70 solo if you want this trinket)
评论来自
koaschten
HoJ is scaling down from 2%@ lvl 60 to 1.33% @ lvl70
which exactly reflects most scaling blizzard implemented for the addon... lvl 60 value * 0.66 = lvl 70 value
评论来自
shonen
One time at my warrior a hunter out-rolled me on this :DDD
评论来自
71013
Is it possible to, and if so, how difficult is it, to solo this at level 70 as a warrior in blues/greens? i've been seing recently what i can solo and have made it through everything up to and including sunken temple. any feedback would be great, thanks :D
评论来自
51192
Dual Blinkstrike + Sword Specialization + Hand of Justice = ...?
:O
评论来自
44554
The trinket was changed even before tBC, and if i remember the patchnotes correctly the reason for it was to make it ppm rather than a fixed chance (turning this into a 2h trinket). I may or may not be wrong, so if any further tests are posted here please mention the weapon used
评论来自
69732
Dont know for other classes but my Prot paly has no problem getting to the emperor and taking him down solo.
He dropped HoJ last night , was curious if this thing procs enough to be worth it. Never expected anything useful to drop in BRD for my paly but this may be the exception.
Ill keep using , but in 10 min of playing with it, I didnt see anything in my combat log after each fight. Anyone know what this shows up in the combat log as ?
Im guessing I may be overlooking it.
评论来自
26241
Given the other quest/instance trinkets in Outland, is this any good still for warriors at lvl 70? Any comments/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
评论来自
86780
1.3% chance to proc at 70 not to mention the 20 AP not bad for sword spec warriors to use until better releases
评论来自
AstrayQQ
This item still shows it's worth for lvl 70 PvE dps with an improved slam spec and sword specialization wich makes it able to use Slam almsot endlessly.
评论来自
95957
Question is:
If it truly is still a % proc and not a PPM proc, does the % scale up pre-60 just as it scales down post 60?
I have it at 55, will attempt to do some parsing tonight.
评论来自
Mortenz
Hand of Justice actually has a animation when it procs, it looks very much the same as the Undead Racial Will of the Forsaken, tho without the /roar emote. Its like a Purple/Blue circle around you.
评论来自
75120
i think this would be a great trinket for combat sowrd rogues
first you get a 5% cahnce for an extra strike with yur spec
then trinket i have read any where from 1% to 5% chance to get an extra strike
and im am lvl 55 so i have thrash blade
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=17705
which also means i get another chance to give an additional strike, but this would also work with the weapon blinkstrike
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31332
评论来自
Xaocka
Just tested, 70 hit per proc, about 1.0 speed DW(1.5 weaps + flurry + mongoose occasionally).
评论来自
Mortenz
Is it just me, or does this proc a lot more after patch 2.3? Now it can proc 2-3 times each fight, usually it proc'ed 1 time each 5th minute or so.
Can anyone perhaps test / confirm this?
评论来自
60449
Coupled w/ Thrash Blade(
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=17705
) (Mara quest reward) and Flurry Axe (
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=871#dropped-by
) (Epic world BoE drop) or two Flurry Axes this would be a swinging fest. Though only DW warriors could use flurry axe and thrash blade while DW shaman can use two flurry axes.
评论来自
PhoenixUnity07
Anyone know if the extra swing can proc paladin seals? would be interesteing with seal of blood if it did.
评论来自
112924
HoJ can't be procced via WF/Sword Spec/other procc melee hit with
like blinkstrike,so this is good for some melee classes especially hemo
rouges and arms warriors.
评论来自
36183
As of 2.4 it has new graphics! Oh yes! Whereas it used to flash white (like being hit with an improved Hamstring) it now flashes with ALL THE COLORS OF THE RAINBOW! DISCO ON, MY BRUTAL WARRIORS! /dance
评论来自
93647
I'm definitely going to farm for this trinket. 1.33% chance to go off still makes it worth it. As a shaman, Windfury + HoJ will be awesome. Extra attacks, here I come.
评论来自
146841
Turn up your spell grafics all the way so the procs are more noticable. It procs quite often.
评论来自
Anarchy
Attention fellow combat sword rogues:
I suggest getting
Thrash Blade
and this as soon as possible, with Hand of Justice.
In total this would mean that sword specialization = 5% chance for extra attack
Thrash Blade = 4.25% chance for extra attack
Hand of Justice = 2% chance for extra attack
Totalling 11.25% chance for an extra attack, also all can proc off each other so you may be getting 3 procs in a row or more.
Definitely keep this trinket until level 70, sadly it will eventually be replaced but until then it is simply an amazing trinket.
评论来自
135595
Holds the Hammer of Justice.
评论来自
Sillybeans
1st of all flame at my spelling or grammar all you want but just read the explanation before you start random rants (yes I’ve played wow for a very long time aswell)
All you people that "Know" this trinket should be replaced at 70 maybe you've just became level 70 and don’t know game mechanics yet.
In above posts they state its 1.33% proc at 70, many think big deal but be real! crits aren’t even close to the extra dmg a extra hit gives... criting is 200% more dmg (without talents) and a extra hit is 200%. This trinket is 1.33% more dmg and 1% crit is 0.5% more dmg, even at 70 1.33% crit is relatively hard to obtain (pvp trinket or BM trinket are only 2 available for easy gamers at 1.6%+1.8%) at 70 which is just above this dmg.
Lets say you have 25% crit (just to make it easier for me and its average crit for most blue geared people). The extra 1.33% chance to hit is a extra 1.33% chance to hit AND crit.
You have 266% dmg but factor in your crit to the hit so divide by 4 and add that to 266% (266/4=66.5% (this means u got 0.665% crit aswell making it 1.33+0.665=1.995% crit)) from critting with your extra attack so its really 266+66.5=332.2% extra damage from the trinket when procs on average instead of just doing a normal hit and getting the 100% normal dmg). This trinket is just as good as a 2.1525% crit trinket at 70. What would u prefer? a chance to do 200% more dmg (per crit) or a chance to do 332.2% more (on average) dmg. For example Hourglass Of The Unraveller is 1.6% crit, this is 200%x1.6=320% more dmg. Btw if your having troube thinking syaing a trinket DOESNT GIVE 332.2% MORE DMG! this is PER-CENT-AGE divide it by 100 and thats the % of damage you get over all, this is the % u get for a hit. 332.2% is 3.322% more damage, and 320% is 3.2% more dmg. Sounds reasonable now? -.- you just rounded the dmg to 1 in 100 attacks, (yes its 1.33% chance for extra and 1.6% crit not 1% but u calculated the dmg into % (100 hits aswell if u dislike %) and to find out 1% (1hit) divide it by 100.
Now that u understand this HERES THE BEST PART, this trinket proc’s with paladin seals (extra dmg that isn’t included in a extra hit and is often forgotten) extra rage for fury warriors (again this is forgotten) rogues have offhand spec (chance to obtain extra energy) and shamans have a chance to gain an addition windfury! Lastly are druids… Same as warriors + Rogues chance on hit/crit to gain extra rage/energy and Omen Of Clarity chance on hit to reduce next moves cost to nothing. DON’T FORGET! Most class’s have flurry (I know that’s on crit but chance to hit also is crit) or some sort of way to increase attack speed (cat form is 1sec attack time) so this procs more and more.
As i said at the top, to beat this trinket u need to have 1.995% crit trinket. Plus the effects (stated above)
Congratulations for all who’ve read this, your true WoW fans! I Currently Have a level 60 warrior (will be 62 probably by the end of today) and I’m not removing this trinket for any crit trinket. It was best dps trinket pre tbc for A REASON (I cried at lower drop rate pre tbc I ran BRD 34 times on my rogue and never dropped)
I go into a lot of detail for all class’s I even have my own files that balance out gear different and what I get per different spec from each attribute and what my average hit/crit will be fore every move for all melee class’s (I’m a melee fan and I cba spending ages debating on which piece of equipment is better so I spent 2 weeks making these). So if any1 wants help or advice on gear, specs or just to have a argument cause I’m always up for an argument add me on msn (Robert.crooks1@ntlworld.com).
Or whisper me in game on 1 of these characters I play depending on mood.
Hakar – 70 Rogue
Pewzor – 70 Shaman
Ihaveursoul – 62 Warlock
Vämyler – 60 Warrior (I’m currently playing this char the most)
Firestuff – 47 Mage
Good Game? :P
Also talents werent put into the calculation since there are talents and chance on hits that can different between gear and chance on crits. One of the main one being sword spec giving a bigger chance to proc chance on hits like this.
(Ps: Hourglass of the unraveler is also one of my TOP rated trinkets since 13.2 AP is 1DPS at 70 and having a small hidden cooldown compared to 2-3min cds i recommend it, will go into detail if asked :P)
评论来自
63953
I got this trinket currently equipped at my lvl 55 warrior, and I think it`s awesome! The proc itself is like another "Sword Speciliazation" ability, and if that wouldn`t be ebough it gives you 20 AP (heh, not the best, but)
I got a 70 rogue, so I know what melee dps trinkets there are, and for the poor, that doesn`t go the best raids etc, I think you can replace your "Uniting charm" or whatever trinket you use, and use this one instead, especially as a 2 hand wielder!
评论来自
92812
this trinket + ironfoe + WF = holy *!@#
评论来自
179118
Hmm Question Does this Work with skills? ima not saying normal skills for example Backstab? Ambush? or even Stun Skills? Lol XD DOuble stun woot -.- xD Thanks
评论来自
182443
-_- just think a little bit when shamans wf procs thats 4 hits in a sec , if u are a shaman with DW and ur WF procs with with 2 wepons at the same time thats 8 hits and i think just ne hit would make a extra atack for u and there is also stormstrike and if u normal hit with ur wepons and WF procs then u hit with stormstrike with ur wepons and if u lucky wf procs with ur 2 wepons this is 4 wf in 2 sec and if every hit of ur WF is sucsesful hit that makes 16 hits in 2 sec what gives every hit of those 16 hits a chance to grant a extra atack that can be 32 atacks in 2 sec but this is a very very very small chance about 0.0002% chance of ur hit that this would hapen , just imagine if that hapens in a duel agains warior and u one shot him xD but i now this can hapen like it hapen to me when i was a 2H shaman i hawe one shot a mobb in SH normal i hited him for 2400 and then wf proct and i did 2400 2300 2550 and then i hit with stormstrike with which i did 2100 and wf proct and then i did 2000 2400 2200 it hapend all in 3 sec and it was amaizing i hited him for 17k dmg = ) i was stuned when i did that
i would like to show u the picture but when i hawe done that i was ... it was .. i just cant... i dont now what to say
评论来自
Bishoprandy
im lvl 70 sword spec warrior. I ran a friend threw BRD on his priest when i was lvl 65 and this thing droped so i picked it up and checked wowhead on it saw the 1.33% at 70 and since i had only 1 good trinket i used it. This thing is amazing with sword spec is like adding another tallent point into sword spec + 20 AP. I have also noticed after killing many many mobs that for what ever reason this thing loves procing with or off of sword spec i just had 2 hits all crits for 2k eachs from sword spec then this baby procing for another 2k ill replace it in WoLK when its chance drops under 1% i will miss it :(
ps. this this can proc off any attack had it proc with a crit MS doing 7k dmg together on a shaman in s2 and of off execute and like the above pally said the burst dmg this thing can pump out on the first pull has wiped me in a few instances before :/
评论来自
RGsweden
I just lost a roll for this against a fu---ng hunter and a freaking prot/holy paladin! so freaking $%^&ed off cause of. I didn't win a single thing in there and when this drops I get screwed by those two twats..
评论来自
Liri
It will trigger off windfury. Windfury will trigger it, and most amusing of all, it will trigger off LIGHTING SHIELD! I checked recount to make sure thats what happened and it showed it..the 'attack' from the shield procced the swing!
评论来自
Hyperstalker
just for the record people still use this at level 70 in arena mainly warriors, i seen high end season 4 warriors with this and sword specialist doing 2v2 with a resto shaman apperently they all dont share CD and it can do crazy damage whe it all procs together i will be looking forward to tring to this out when i have teh chance to farm it dont let the 1% put you off :P
评论来自
Rodriguez
This trinket is a legend in WoW history, it had truly glorious days until it's big downfall.. Blizzard saw the big threat and immense power from this trinket and made it significantly more difficult to get it and with after BC never ever introduced another item with this unique ability.
This trinket was pure gold in the past time, every Warrior will agree, it maybe was overpowered i don't deny this, but damn i will never forget the times of triple proccs as warrior, that was one of the few times in warrior's history, where he felt mighty and superior. In WotLK we get a cheap nostalgia plastic copy:Swift Hand of justice, of this once so great trinket. At least it has nostalgic value...
I highly suggest a comeback for trinkets with "chance to gain an extra hit" !
评论来自
53267
I don't know why, but this trinket doesn't work for me. On my 70 warrior, my combat log showed it proccing several times, yet never did the proc yield an extra attack- I just attacked once, like normal. Very disappointing...
评论来自
Dithren
im a 74 fury warrior and i still use this <3
评论来自
WarriorsFtw
Wait kinda noobish question, but is this proc on you hitting someone or someone hitting you?
评论来自
WarriorsFtw
Thanks, i was a bit unsure. I want a trinket that gives you a chance to get an extra attack when you get it... the best low level instance running trinket ever!
评论来自
fadeaway
Any word on the proc chance at level 80?
I'm curious if it will get so low that it "flips" its numbers, much like how Icy Enchant was making targets attack faster instead of slower back in TBC - this trinket may go from 0.33% proc to 100% proc depending on level eventually.
评论来自
238626
Got this on my lvl 60 rogue twink, and i must say the proc is very unpredictabel. sometimes it proc's within mere seconds, and sometimes i can do 250 hits without a proc.
I tested it with Recount though, counted 3100 hits and only having this proc 33 times.
Very unpredictable in dps, and imo shouldn't be used for PvE if you have a good alternative.
Personally im hoping to get Drake Fang Talisman from BWL + Renataki's Charm of Trickery from ZG.
I do get to pwn someone extra fast in pvp sometimes when it does proc, wich is very nice, but it only happens every 12th kill or so, meaning the rest of the time i just got a trinket with 20 atp.
评论来自
Moethetroll
whats the proc rate on the current lvl cap, 80?
评论来自
324950
Quick number check. I have attempted to make this chart for the Proc chance of the Hand of Justice trinket. Please review my calculations and let me know if it is right or not and I will correct or delete if necessary.
I have analyzed the level scaling based off of the information provided that it is scaled down to 1.66 at level 70. That being the case if the scaling is not % wise then I made this chart:
60 - 2.00 71 - 1.626
61 - 1.966 72 - 1.592
62 - 1.932 73 - 1.558
63 - 1.898 74 - 1.524
64 - 1.864 75 - 1.49
65 - 1.83 76 - 1.456
66 - 1.796 77 - 1.422
67 - 1.762 78 - 1.388
68 - 1.728 79 - 1.354
69 - 1.694 80 - 1.32
70 - 1.66
I'm going to run my own calculations tonight on my 72 DK and hopefully we will see similar results.
Please help me as to whether this is accurate or not as I am still unsure how the level scaling actually works. Thanks Wowhead!
评论来自
sozcaps
WF has a three second cooldown; so it can't proc in 2 seconds. No one hitting warriors for you =].
Seeing as the Windfury is a passive ability, I thought it should be noted that it has what is called an
internal cooldown
, not just a cooldown.
评论来自
254684
Spent some time on my 80 Warrior hitting the Heroic Training Dummy. I had most of my gear unequipped to not lose durability, and for weapons I used 2x Dalaran Dagger.
Recount reported:
Melee 5261 attacks, 455401 damage, 84.5%
Deep Wounds (DoT) 2119 attacks, 80349 damage, 14.9%
Melee (Hand of Justice) 28 attacks, 2592 damage, 0.5%
Deep Wounds (DoT) (Hand of Justice) 6 attacks, 628 damage, 0.1%
28 procs / 5261 attacks = 0.0053, or 0.53% chance to proc. Time was 52 minutes, so that would be 0.5385 procs per minute.
评论来自
Anarchy
They should make more trinkets or items with procs like this, there's nothing quite like a flurry of extra attacks (combat rogues)
评论来自
486039
level 80:
1.019% -- 102 procs in 10001 hits
still no cooldown (2 procs in 0.06s)
http://img39.imageshack.us/i/procs.jpg/
评论来自
141044
I'd just like to point out that this item in concert with thrash blade and Ironfoe mainhand can chain trigger each other. I don't have a screenshot, but I'm being completely honest when I say that I have personally seen these items chain 24 instant attacks off 1 cheap shot. 4 of those attacks missed, and the other 20 attacks took the rogue I jumped down to 36% hp.
I unfortunately do not have a screenshot of this, but I'd swear on my WoW account that this occurred during the Burning Crusade expansion in Alterac Valley.
I suppose in any case it's at your discretion whether or not you want to farm these items on your alt, but I would strongly reccomend it as it lasted me up until level 65 and probably would have gone further if I didn't grow discontent with the top end I was seeing verse greens I was picking up.
It took me around 10 runs to get Ironfoe, and (lol) 13 to get HoJ. Keep in mind that when BC was released alot of items, including Ironfoe had their drop rates significantly increased. So it's not the 1 / 500 it used to be.
Happy hunting.
p.s. I never even tried sword spec with all that stuff lawwwwwwllllllll
评论来自
Morkai
I once played on a friend's account on a pala with this and Hand of rangnaros. When it procced the elites at tyr's hand died in a single shot... Yeah procs of soc too :P
评论来自
Hurono
Would this and the Battleworn Thrashblade proc back to back?
Downrated for a legitimate question. Sigh.
评论来自
TheHoof
"and this wigger hunter" he says
ROFL
评论来自
Sylvandas
This trinket procs off of Fire Nova. Seriously.
评论来自
sidelsky18
Approximate Chance to Proc Per Level:
Level 60 (& before): 2.00%
Level 63: 1.80%
Level 65: 1.67%
Level 67: 1.54%
Level 69: 1.40%
Level 70: 1.33%
Level 71: 1.27%
Level 73: 1.13%
Level 75: 1.00%
Level 77: 0.87%
Level 79: 0.73%
Level 80: 0.67%
评论来自
290685
Was tanking on my warrior and this dropped. I rolled 89 and the stupid rogue rolled 96. He hits fast enough as is. If I'd have won I woulda had swift hand of justice and hand of justice
评论来自
Strein4321
I was wondering if this trinket is good for feral druid. Anyone have any other opinions to add? I mean feral as in cat. =P
评论来自
843310
So has anyone played around with this trinket at 85?
评论来自
223389
At Level 58 I have about 175 procs out of 13100 attacks for a 1.3% proc rate
It appears in the combat log as "{Player} gains 1 extra attacks". Determining which attack is actualy attributed to the trinket seems to be an inexact science.
In my observation, Recount will identify the attack that follows the trinket proc as the attack that will be duplicated and the next time that attack occurs, it is attributed to the trinket proc. I don't think the combat log is guaranteed to be in order of actual events, so it is possible for Recount to be inacurate. There may be a way for a combat log entry to indicate that it is a result of an extra attack (or it may have the same exact time-stamp). If not, then there is no derterministic way to attribute the extra attack.
评论来自
230106
I have this item and I don't think it works. Never once have I seen any procs. Stood at a target dummy and hit over 1000 times and no procs. Sent a ticket to Blizzard and they responded "Blizzard doesn't provide game tips" etc etc and referred me to the internet. Any ideas?
评论来自
gg754
atm combat rogs can 1shot shamans in soo with it and pvp 'looms swords 2x, saw irl it
评论来自
designadrug
Just revisited this on my L100 Rogue;
11,691 Attacks
52 HoJ Procs
Proc Chance per attack @L100 is 0.44%
...and back in the bank it goes until the next level cap comes out.
评论来自
LegendVarinius
Seems to have turned into Epic quality in 7.3 for some reason.
评论来自
Samaramon1
So it's epic quality now... Gave me a mini-heart attack thinking it's Ironfoe :(
评论来自
Vheanom
Can anyone comfirm if this trinket still procs as at all in shadowlands pre-patch? Just got it on my enhancement shaman and can't tell if it's proccing or not.
评论来自
schnizol
apparently it doesn't work anymore lol
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