Used for purchasing items requiring Nat Pagle reputation after you've unlocked him as a follower in your garrison.
Known items for sale and the required reputations as of now:
Nat's Draenic Fishing Journal
- 25 coins - no known rep requirement. Permanently increases fishing skill by 50 points.
Nat's Drinking Hat
- 25 coins - Neutral with Nat Pagle.
Draenic Fishing Pole
- 25 coins - Neutral with Nat Pagle.
Savage Fishing Pole
- 25 coins - Neutral with Nat Pagle.
- 50 coins - Friendly with Nat Pagle.
Reins of the Crimson Water Strider
- 100 coins - Honored with Nat Pagle.
*Fixed the reputation requirements.
Once you upgrade your Fishing Shack to level three, you will be able to go on a quest chain to obtain Nat Pagle as a follower.
Then, after he is in your garrison, you catch one of each of the Lunkers (bigger than enormous fish) in each zone each day, which will net you seven of these coins per day.
After eight days of doing the dailies every day, buy a tiny shark pokemon for fifty of these coins. I believe this one, and Spawn of G'Nathus, are the only fish without annoying bubbles around them.
The real question here is this: which is more efficient for gathering Nat's Lucky Coins:
to summon the
: Based on the comment replies below it seems that lunkers are the way to go.
: Now, with patch 6.1 it seems that the catch-rate of lunkers has been increased significantly. Fishing up 5 of a kind took me less than 30 minutes just now.
: With Patch 7.0.3 (Legion Pre-Patch), people have started to form 40-man fishing raids in their garrisons for the
that can drop from the Cavedwellers. The spawned
drop personal loot for everyone. A nice side-effect of this is lots of Nat's Lucky Coins. Most groups require that you link
as proof that you have a
which is required to catch
Also, and I can't emphasize this enough:
Y U NO CURRENCY
Too bad that max stack is only 100. Fished a lot of lunkers but the coins does not stack. :(
s are currently implemented as a Soulbound item that takes up space in your bags. Their only purpose in-game is to function as a
Currency used to purchase items
. So you'll be forced to sacrifice a bag slot for quite a long time, while you fish up hundreds of
to trade in for one (1)
each, in order to buy all of Nat's fishing wares.
submit a support ticket
reporting this as an interface-design problem. There is a Currency tab on the character profile screen that should be used for
. For example, there are several
Currencies in the Warlords of Draenor expansion
that correctly use the Currency tab for storage instead of taking up bag space. Blizzard simply needs to correct this oversight and and code
s as a Currency instead of a Soulbound item. All Currencies on the Currency tab are effectively Soulbound anyway. Thanks for taking the time to submit a ticket today!
Not quite sure why Blizzard would make this so difficult
. People that are collectors have a life too and mine does not include fishing till the 12th of never. I feel it needs to be adjusted and I did make a suggestion. However, I am going to the forums too. People are up in arms about it and with our voices they may listen.
This should be put into the currency tab and taken out of bag inventory like the lesser charms of good fortune were at the start of Mists of Pandaria.
Its a shame that it is almost the same items as rep farming needed for MOP. Should have been a different color mount, hat etc.. hell why not a whole out fit. or have enchants you can get for pvp gear only.
The drop rate for lunkers is now decided by skill level. I was able to get 50 coins from lunkers at a 3.5% drop rate in 6.1 with a 930 skill level. This is up from the 1.3% in the prior patch when I got 100 coins from lunkers.
Does anyone know if you can fish up lunkers in your garrison pool in 6.1?
So I spent all weekend fishing to get the 200 lunkers I needed for the mount and both pets.
It *seems* that pools have a significantly higher lunker rate than fishing outside of pools.
After I figured this out, I fished up the coast from Pinchwhistle Gearworks to Shadowmoon Valley where there are unlimited pools (even if they are a bit scattered.) Often times I got my 5
before my hearth was up.
If you don't have your
, fish up
in your garrison and kill the
until you get them. It's worth taking the extra time.
Has something happened to droprate of
? Since yesterday I've gotten 1
This coin is worth WAY more than 25 silver, just sayin'
Does anybody know if having relevant bait on your hook affects lunker drop rate?
I managed to farm up 100 of
Nat's Lucky Coins
over a few weeks time by fishing in my garrison. Every Day I would take the daily fishing quest, Apply
, then ask Nat for a bait. Using
Dragon Fishing Pole
I get my fishing skill up to 1030. I try to fish up at least 5
(that's the maximum amount you can stack). All except one
Nat's Lucky Coin
which I got from a random lunker I fished up, came from the
Granted this takes a bit of patience, but it's not so bad being in your garrison and chatting with trade.
7.0.1 Update - There are a few comments floating around about doing 40 man raid groups and fishing for
. Not sure what phrase to look at in group finder, but you will need to ensure you have your level 3 fishing shack still. The boss is personal loot meaning you may have a better time of getting coins this way as 40 people fishing for the item it shouldn't take long to get them. This is also a good chance to farm your fishing turtle mounts if you don't already have them as they are in the loot table as well.
Thanks to Darthdaditz2 for the comment on here that I wanted to get out to anyone scanning this post. Cycle to filter by patch 7.0.1 to see his original comment
With the addition of flying in 6.2.2, Fishing in pools is more efficient than fishing in open water. See below for data.
With increased drop rates and inclusion of pools, about 8 hours of fishing should net you your mount!
(post quests leading up to catching 100 lunkers)
In scanning the comments across the mount, coins, pools, lunkers, and whatever else I could find I came up with some common facts that I wanted to put in a single post along with my current hypothesis on the fastest way to catch 100+ lunkers.
You can catch lunkers anywhere there is fishable water except your Garrison. This includes Tanaan Jungle.
All fish are not created equal for lunkers. Thanks to a post in the comments section of the
we can assume fishing for
appears to have the best lunker rate. Head to 65,21 in Spires of Arak for a nice quiet place to waste your life...
Having bait should not effect your catch rate. However, with a max skill you will always have bait on you, so why not.
The higher your fishing skill, the better the drop rate.
Once you have a level 3 fishing shack, it is a good idea to fish up
for Horde or
for Alliance. The drop rate is about 1% and should take you 20-30 minutes to fish up.
Using those items spawns
which has a decent chance to drop fishing items that will greatly enhance your skill such as:
Based on a previous comment, a user stated that the drop rate in pools seemed higher for lunkers. They also noted that the pools off the coast of Spires of Arak respawn at a great rate, and come in decent groups. Because of this comment and the addition of flying I decided to test this theory directly.
With flying, moving from pool to pool makes a more efficient lunker grind than standing in one spot in fishing due to an increased drop rate.
A fishing skill of 1045 or greater will be used throughout. If higher or lower, it will be annotated.
Fishing in pools will primarily be conducted on the east coast of Spires of Arak due to the number/respawn rate of pools creating a ideal uptime to fish in pools.
Fishing in 'open waters' will be conducted in Spires of Arak due to the assumed best drop chance of lunkers in this area.
This is now complete. If you want specific sessions of fishing (there were about 6) let me know. Total is posted below.
I'm a salty son of a @#$%^, so my ability to get the lure in the pool is undoubtedly better than yours! :)
Time is being measured using
and a sprinkling of common sense.
Time does not stop when mobs are encountered or a lack of pools is found.
There was no competition for pools which could reduce the total number of effective casts into pools.
Addon being used is Fishing Buddy to ensure the lure stays on and to track numbers/percentages generally speaking.
I deleted the individual sessions which displayed the progress for fishing. After 6.5 hours total of fishing (that were used for this post(3 hours in pools and 3 hours in open water)) 100 lunkers have been caught and I have my sweet time sink mount. Might do pets, I dunno.
Fishing in pools IS a higher drop chance and the increased drop rate beats open water fishing even if you have to move between pools.
6.5 hours = 84 lunkers. Appx 7.5-8 hours = 100.
Fishing in Pools - Spires of Arak, East Coast:
Total time spent fishing: 205 Minutes
Total casts/items caught: 691
Total Lunkers: 52
Est. Drop Percentage: 7.5%
Fishing in Open Water - Spires of Arak, near 65,21:
Total time spent fishing: 180 Minutes
Total casts/items caught: 797
Total Lunkers: 32
Est. Drop Percentage: 4.0%
*** Some fishing was done outside of the time/cast measurements. That is why 84 is the total and I have my mount.
(Updated September 19)
I had multiple terrible sessions of RNG when fishing in open water. Fishing in pools was a consistent 5.5-7.5% drop rate for Lunkers. Because of this, once I hit the mid 80's for lunkers, I swapped to just pools and finish inside of an hour (about 35-40 minutes). If someone
fishes in only pools
off of Spires of Arak I would estimate they would net 100 lunkers in about 6.5 to 7 hours. Fishing in pools is more efficient than fishing in open water.
Adjusted my comment on the
page to reflect the 6.1 changes that:
Nat is no longer required working at the Shack to capture Lunkers.
Lunkers can be caught in pools and without a limit of 5.
The rate seems to be higher than in 6.0 (or is at least affected by pools only containing price fish).
I was unaware of these changes, but this makes Lunker farming by far the best way to get the coins. Garrison fishing is still prefered if you also want the chance at the Riding Turtle, though.
Remember, if you want all of Nat's goodies (which most of us do), you don't need 250 coins. Just buy the 2 pets off the AH - that will save you 100 coins right there. And believe me, you'll earn the gold back a lot faster than the time you would have spent fishing for those extra 100 Lunkers. So, 100 coins for the mount, and just 50 more for the hat and fishing pole.
Just thought I would mention this as reading through I cant see it mentioned.
When farming for your
and deciding on whether to farm from your garrison or open waters just check your rep with
Buying items from
Friend: 25200-33600 -
Good Friend: 33600-42000 -
Best Friend: 42000-42999 -
If you don't have the required rep to buy the items you need then you need to stick to farming your
from open water lunkers for now as handing in the lunkers also gives you 350 rep as well as a coin. Farming coins from your garrison gives no rep so you'll be left with the coins you need but not the required rep to buy anything.
So how many lunkers do you need?
taking into account rep bonuses from Guild Perks or class bonuses:
350 rep per hand in, each tier is 8400 worth of rep so 8400/350 = 24 lunkers require for each level of friendship. So 120 lunkers from stranger to best friend.
If your at best friends or have the rep you need then farming coins from your garrison is probably better as they can drop from the
summoned by the
fished up in your garrison and also gives you a chance at the mount and toy etc from them.
You can also go back to MoP and farm rep that way too if lunkers are annoying you.
Quick guide showing the best spot for farming lunkers! Taanan Jungle also gives you nice felblights and you can realm hop with little or no competition!
Hand-in macro for Lunker farmers
If you need to turn in a lot of lunkers, paste this in a macro:
Then replace 'X' according to which type of lunker you're handing in:
1 - Fire Ammonite Lunker
2 - Jawless Skulker Lunker
3 - Fat Sleeper Lunker
4 - Black Lake Lunker
5 - Blackwater Whiptail Lunker
6 - Abyssal Gulper Lunker
7 - Sea Scorpion Lunker
8 - Felmouth Frenzy Lunker
It'll work like this:
Right-click Nat Pagle, spam macro 3 times, and you've handed in 1 lunker.
It'll go faster than handing them in manually, and you won't have to download some addon either.
Nat couldn't care less what KIND of lunker you bring him, so the fastest way to farm the coins is sea scorpion lunkers offshore between Arak and Shadowmoon. there are TONS of spawning pools here and you never have to go far for another one.
I found a pretty good spot for Fat Sleeper Lunker fishing on the Elemental Plateau in Nagrand.
Standing on ledge with a waterfall to the right and a lille isle with elementals to the left and a periodic water geyser that inactive looks a lot like a Outlands Pure Water school directly in front.
No agro in this spot.
Totals: at 200 catches --- at 506 catches
137: 68.5% --- 346: 68.4%
37: 18.5% --- 100: 19.8%
16: 8% --- 33: 6.5%
5: 2.5% --- 14: 2.8%
2: 1% --- 5: 1.0%
1: 0.5% --- 3: 0.6%
0: 0% --- 2: 0.4%
1: 0.5% --- 2: 0.4%
0: 0% --- 1: 0.2%
Fishing skill: 700
I used the Pheronome Fish, when I got it, adding another 100 skill.
63:18 Spires of Arakk
Fishing Skill 700+400=1100
spend Time: 9h32
Abyssal Gulper Lunker: 98
Currently, you can start a raid group in LFG, if you have the Draenor Angler fishing achievement. Get 40 people in your garrison fishing up Cavedwellers. It is all personal loot. In 1 hour, i looted both turtle mounts, 170+ coins and you will loot more fish than you know what to do with. You can mail it to an alt, the garrison mailbox is within range of the kill area, you can loot any cavedwellers you missed while cleaning out your bags. You will also get all the hats, poles and trinkets you ever wanted.
Ive noticed rep is gained with Nat on handing in a Lunker. I'm guessing (new demon hunter alt) that this counts towards the Pandaria Nat too for buying rep items so we don't need to return to Pandaria to complete the dailies there.
For anyone wondering, it looks like the bait you choose to apply is not influential. In one cast I grabbed an enormous Crescent Saberfish and a Fire Ammonite Lunker.
for 5 hours fishing i got 50 coins
Remember to assign Nat to your fishing shack. Otherwise you need bait to catch lunkers.
I fished in the garrison for the first 46 coins from the minnow/cavedweller, until I got Riding Turtle (around 1.30-2pm today), then went out to Spires, and fished up and down the coast in Sea Scorpion Schools for the remainder, well up to 82 (4pm) so far, tracking the Lunkers and Coins using the Rarity add-on as it displays them (added together) as attempts at the mount when you get them. of course also using Fishing Buddy for fast casting and luring
Fished for like 10 minnows, got no coins. I guess lunkers are the only way to farm for the coins. Thats rather sad, coz the droprate for lunkers seems to be in a 5-10% ballpark.
I fished for about 2-3 hours with Nat assigned to my Garrison and only got 1 coin and no lunkers. :|
After fishing in spires of arak for about 1 hour without getting 1 single lunker, I went to Nagrand around Elemental plateau and got one for about every 10 fat sleeper. 800 fishing with no bait or fishing items
I thought I'd share my experience as of 8.0:
I farmed the coins by fishing in Talador pools by flying in circles around the large body of water. It took me about two afternoons of grind, maybe like 10 hours total. Every once in a while I got really lucky and fished up a lunker about every five casts, but I also had dryspells with over 30casts. On average, I'd say I got a lunker every 15-20 casts.
If your main goal is Nat Pagle reputation and the crimson water strider, I'd definitely recommend fishing pools. The other option, fishing up carps at your garrison to farm the cavedweller is much slower. Then again, the garrison option offers you the chance to get some turtles.
Contrary to popular belief, this isn't the most horrible grind. Yes, it still requires quite some time, but there are definitely much worse grinds and fishing can be really relaxing.
Just my 2c if you're here after 8.0 and saving for your Water Strider.
I've spent around 6 hours doing laps of Hellfire Citadel fishing the pools. I've landed around 600 Felmouth Frenzies and 56 Lunkers, so I'm on approx 9% drop rate. It seems pretty consistent with most of the other comments here.
I have no bait or buffs besides the Underlight Angler.
I had fished around 250 coins with
.It usually takes 30-45 minute for 10 of them.
I just caught 102 lunkers required to get the mount and get to best friend with Nat Pagel (I had some rep from MoP) in 8.0.1. Here's my data:
100 casts in SMV open waters = 0 lunkers
100 casts in SMV schools = 12 Blind Lake Lunkers
100 casts in Talador schools = 7 Blackwater Whiptail Lunkers
973 casts in souther shore of Spires = 83 Sea Scorpion Lunkers
All told (for schools): 1173 casts = 102 lunkers = ~8.7% drop rate
Note for all fishing except in Talador I had max base fishing, plus Dragon fishing pole and Hightfish Cap. In Talador I tested out not using those items. If we exclude those casts, we get:
1073 casts = 95 lunkers = ~8.9% drop rate
P.S. I did this in about 2.5 days of pretty intense grind.
Today (patch 8.1.5), it takes 3 hours to get 50 lunkers from schools. I personally fished in Nagrand (Fat Sleeper), doing laps between Ancestral Grounds and Mok'gol Outpost.
Watching Netflix at the same time passes the time quite well.
Perhaps it's other people doing this in the weeks leading up to Shadowlands, but after deciding to finally finish off the coin grind I have to say I disagree with Spires of Arak pool fishing. It's fine if you want to mix it up, but you'll spend so much time flying around looking for pools I don't think the increased drop rate is worth it. Far better spot in my opinion is the fel river around Hellfire Citadel. The Felmouth Frenzy schools respawn frequently and are generally numerous. The lunker drop rate was roughly 7.5% for me across hundreds of casts, so even if that's less than the reported 10% for Spires pools then I'm ok with that given I spent less time flying.
Lunker fishing in the age of Shadowlands!
Figured I'd fish for a few hours (open water only, no pools) while I recover from a tough dentist visit, and see if the drop rates have gotten better. For the purposes of this brief post, I differentiate between Zone fish (in this case, Nagrand's Fat Sleepers), and trash (Crescent Saberfish). Some takeaways from my 3-hour experiment:
1. Using bait means you catch more zone fish than trash. No bait means mostly trash.
2. Using gear to beef up your skill level past Draenor's max means you catch more "enormous" zone fish than trash. Fully decked out, the "enormous" variety of zone fish will be what you catch most, by a large margin.
3. Over the years I can count on one hand the number of times the game did *not* let me fish up more bait before my current bait timed out.
Buck naked, armed only with the basic Fishing Pole (the first one you can buy when you pick up the skill), Bright Baubles (+3), and bait:
12 lunkers. (Per lure: 3,3,2,1,1,2)
Decked out with Boots of the Bay (+10), Nat's Drinking Hat (and lure (+18), enchanted gloves (+5), and the ol' Underlight Angler (+15):
9 lunkers (per lure: 2,1,2,4,0,0)
Buck naked, no lure, no bait, no pole - just that lame insta-pole guys too lazy to equip an actual pole use:
16 lunkers. I kid you not. 16 dang lunkers.
Possible conclusion: You can gear up to maximize for enormous zone fish, or gear down to maximize for lunkers.
Maybe. Gonna have to wait until the next trip to the dentist before I'm willing to sit down for another 3 hours and test the hypothesis.
Where's the Tylenol?
Some data from 9.1.5 regarding hunting Lunkers!
I chose to work on my grind in Tanaan Jungle, fishing in Felmouth Frenzy pools. I flew in a circle around Hellfire Citadel, fishing in the green fel water; pools would always respawn before I got back to them, so I was able to have non-stop pools. Partway through, I started using the addon Fishing Buddy to keep track of some stats.
After 900 casts with +15 fishing (just my fishing pole, no lure or bait):
671 Felmouth Frenzy, or 74.6% of my casts
153 Felblight, or 17% of my casts
75 Felmouth Frenzy Lunker, or 8.3% of my casts
1 Enormous Crescent Saberfish, or 0.1% of my casts (gotten when a cast was not close enough to a pool)
Additionally, if you are farmining coins specifically for the mount, be aware that if you are starting without any Friendship with Nat, you will need to collect more than 100 lunkers, as you will not reach Best Friends from just 100 turn ins alone! You can get coins from fishing in your Garrison's level 3 fishing shack (via killing the murlocs you get from carps), but that doesn't drop lunkers and therefore
get you friendship!
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