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评论来自
5710
Hard to farm drop for 29 twinks, but hopefully well worth it. The big thing is though, use it in the off-hand with an Agility enchant on it. The +5-7 Fire Damage is not included in abilities such as Ambush and that fire damage is already calculated into the DPS. Other than that, quite a good weapon.
评论来自
39352
Hehe... Killed vishas in SM GY once, didnt drop, reset, it dropped, reset, DROPPED AGAIN! Lawl! Happily duel weilding both.
评论来自
Elinorah
Well, as a twink you maybe shouldn't use two of this. Because of the stats. Sure its quick and got a high amount of max dmg but you can get the dagger from WSG with 7 agility and 3 stamina to keep the stats up.
评论来自
49823
Does the 5-7 Fire Damage add to the max damage? Does it count as 56 max damage, when you use Ambush and Backstab? Should I prefer Claw of the Shadowmancer or this one for a dagger specced rogue?
评论来自
Thottbot
Interrogator Vishas in the left scarlet instance
评论来自
Thottbot
Rogues: when you're farming for the poker, be sure to check out the graveyard for rare spawns. Because some very nice rogue stuff drops off them:
Ebon Vise
Ironspine's Eye
Happy farming.
评论来自
Thottbot
I myself am a 32 rogue and I have been farming this guy for three days with my friend, a 34 feral druid. Coming from one rogue to another, you can probably solo this guy, but I haven't tried yet as I have a druid in my guild that is happy to help me try, perhaps futily, get this dagger. Basically in the room with the boss there are a bunch of other guys, all far enough away to not aggro, but there is a guy right by Vishas that you will have to deal with during the boss fight. If you were to solo him, I would try the following:
1) Kill the first two guys in the main hall once you enter the instance.
2) Wait for the pat in Vishas' room to come around to the doorway leading in to Vishas' room, and Dynamite pull him, shoot him with an arrow, etc., pull him out of the room, and dispose of him. You might not see him at first when you enter the room - part of his path takes him to the exit of that room for a few seconds. Just be patient and wait, you're going to have to kill him.
3) Kill the two guards immediately to your left when you enter Vishas' room. I would recommend sapping one and pulling the other guy out, killing him in the hall, and then either running out of the instance, re-enter, and restealth, or vanish, or try to take the guy immediately after the first. These are lvl 30 elites so it won't be easy to do the latter.
4) Now that the area around the doorway is clear, sap Vishas (hopefully you have impr. sap) and pull the guy right by him out into the same hallway you were killing all the other dudes in. Kill him as fast as possible, run out of the instance, return, and then you're clear to kill Vishas. You can kill him where he stands, just pull him to the wall a little and be sure to use crippling poison, because he will try to run at 10% health, and he sometimes runs for seemingly no reason at all.
It wouldn't be a bad idea to pack a health potion or two - you shouldn't need it for the elites but Vishas will hit you with SW:P and Immolate, which does the majority of his damage. That stuff hits pretty hard and it will prevent you from vanishing to get an extra ambush or cheap shot or whatever. I generally start out with garrote, get to four combo points and rupture, and then just go to town. Don't bother using mind-numbing poison because his dmg spells are insta cast.
All that said, I've killed him 10 times now and I haven't seen anything drop but a green cloth item and the Bloody Brass Knuckles. From reading the above posts I'm honestly starting to wonder if Blizzard removed this item from GY altogether. I'm sure with my luck it will drop after I've picked up something better. But I really would like to gouge some Alliance with a red hot iron poker.
Anyway, I hope this helped.
Faldrif
32 Troll Rogue <Totem Recall>
Jaedenar
评论来自
Thottbot
My son ran the instance on this guy seven times and it dropped twice... on the sixth and seventh runs! I kid you not.
I'm into at least forty runs now (five at a time)and nothing... nada for old dad.
(I swear that kid has a pact with a devil somewhere... well now that I think of it... maybe his mom. That would explain a lot. Including why
MY
luck stinks. lol) <sigh>
评论来自
Thottbot
The drop rate is so low i've been in here at least 50 times hasn't dropped once... any ticks?
评论来自
Thottbot
I had 2 by my sixth or so run. I rushed the person who'd rushed me's alt but it didn't drop, about 10 times then he got fed up. Got fiery on both and did PvP for a bit while i had them, they're not bad to be honest.
评论来自
Thottbot
Took about 30 runs before the dagger dropped. Other 29 times bloody brass knuckles dropped, with the occasional crap green item.
I tried soloing Vishas many times as a 29 Rogue (wanted the dagger for PvP). But it was really freaking tough, even for a fairly twinked-out rogue. I died a lot, but did end up killing him a few times, but only when I was all buffed out with shadow protection, fire protection, agil, defense, fortitude, stamina, troll's blood and healing pots. Had to pop dodge and my talisman of arithor (damage absorb) as well. But it wasn't worth it, because on those few occasions, nothing good dropped.
He's easy to solo as a 33+ rogue though. Just have to sap and pull carefully. Now as a 36 rogue, I can do the whole room including the four dudes by the chest pretty easily.
Just passing along my experience. Hope it helps.
评论来自
Thottbot
I got it on my 7th time through it realy isnt that hard to get just kill the guy and run out if u didnt get it and reset. You are limited to 5 times a hour which sux, but its still really cool if you get it awesome for my rogue twink
评论来自
Allakhazam
ya im stoked my 60 bud ran me through it at 26 and got 2..... 1 on the 4th run and then got another one, 10 runs after that run its sweet....
F.Y.I: I pwn in BG reconizeeee
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评论来自
Allakhazam
nice for a lvl 29 twink rogue ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
what exactly drops it? like boss or what?
评论来自
Allakhazam
in SM GY
u cant see in atlas couz it usually drops white items
This is Screen shot+loc of mob
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1697/asdzw3.jpg
GL and HF
评论来自
Allakhazam
Screenie
Edited, Wed Jun 15 18:37:07 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
got this item.. w00tage.... Gotta love when level 50's run you through it like 10 times... heh
评论来自
Allakhazam
OWnAGE twink item duel wield with agi ownage friend has it on his lvl 29 twink rogue man he owns i think he has crusader on main hand agi on off hand but that isnt the point if your a 29 twink GET THESE FROM SM GY!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I did about 75 runs total, and got both of mine. What i did was this, this is my exact macro spam "/2 Paying for SM Vishas runs ( He is the first mob in GY ), Each run takes about 45 seconds, I'll pay 2g, for 5 runs. And if a Torturing Poker drops I'll pay an additional 3g. "
And i got the WPL flightpath (Im ally) once you hit the Bulwark, you die and get put to SM. simple as that, then just give it time, wait back and let runner kill, if it drops, you can roll, but expect alot of lame ass claws
评论来自
Allakhazam
DAMN... i use this dagger on my twink rogue it rules !
评论来自
Allakhazam
OK, but does this mean it (the dagger) does +5 to 7 fire damage? Or does this increase fire damage from spells?
评论来自
Allakhazam
"For all of us 29 twink rogues"
Claw of the Shadowmancer would be a better investment than this dagger. The +Fire damage is factored into the DPS, but when you crit, that fire damage doesn't. You're effectively critting with a 17.6 DPS dagger.
Claw of the Shadowmancer has higher bottom-end AND top-end damage, and it's 35dmg shadowbolt proc isn't factored into its DPS. Even if it only procs once out of 100 hits, you're still getting 21.5dps which is higher than Tortured Poker, AND your crits do more damage as well.
Need a second dagger?
Toxic Revenger has the same damage/speed as the Shadowmancer and is just as easy to farm as the Poker (but with a higher drop rate). Have your 60 drop down to kill Viscous Fallout and stand at the top with group loot on. You'll be in range to roll, and you'll only have to kill a few troggs. And if you don't like AoE DoTs for pvp (no clue why you wouldn't, CC is for non-twink groups), I'd still take the slower Dreamslayer over this dagger.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm nearing 40 runs and still nothing. This is damn annoying.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Me and my buddy went in. We alternated our mains with our alts to get them for our rogues. Took about 25 trys with my 28 rogue and his 45 druid. took 5 trys with my 45 shaman and his 29 rogue.
评论来自
Allakhazam
will someone post a pic of this please =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Put a couple of fierys on these lol <stab> burn ssssshhhh
评论来自
Allakhazam
My 2nd run with my lvl 60 friends XD
and it dropped, quite happy coz its good.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm so @#$%ing pissed, I did 72 runs with a druid (I'm not kidding...) and it didn't even drop ONE single time '-____-
So anyone has an idea why it won't drop?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just helped a mate lvl 31 Rogue with getting this and It dropped in the first run.
Looks fun and you can Dual wield it which will look pretty fun.
评论来自
Allakhazam
dang. def the best dagger at this lvl (by 5 dps and 2 damage) great for a twink
Edited, Feb 15th 2007 9:55pm by Flauge
评论来自
Allakhazam
ive been tryin to get it for the past 2 days
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it yesterday the first run :O
me (26 rogue) and my bro (60 rogue) got it within 5mins of getting to SM =D
none of the rares were spawned though :<
评论来自
Allakhazam
It's been 11th tries so far and I still didnt get this for my rogue. Still there looking for it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
So far, after 10 runs, nothing. Stupid 5 instances per hour crap. Ah well. I'll get it soon lol.
36 runs now. Still no dagger. *sigh*
Edited, Apr 29th 2007 9:40am by XhinYao
评论来自
Allakhazam
so 7 runs into it the poker drops, and even though i'm in xp receiving range i go to loot the guy and i can't loot because i was 10 friggin feet away..
this game is completely ridiculous, save yourself the time and go play something else
Edited, May 7th 2007 11:51pm by Williamshatner
评论来自
Allakhazam
so technically do you think this is the best twink dagger or no?
评论来自
Allakhazam
hello im selling runs to this guy. when the dagger drops i charge 40g for it just give me a tell in game "tungsten" or MSN banaan911@hotmail.com
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have a 54 warlock and i had my level 60 friends run my 31 rogue threw SM GY because thats where it drops and ive never seen it drop i ran about 23 times in the last day
评论来自
Allakhazam
For all of us 29 twink rogues, the drop rate increases when a rogue takes you through. I did 10 runs with a mage, no drop. 2 runs with a rogue stealthing to him and killing him, 1 drop for me other for him ( DE ). Plus when the exp gained drops when killing one guy, not 15 or so. =D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dude wtf lol blizz added like 5 more dps to this dagger, now its overpowering xD lol wtf?
评论来自
crispies
Just got mine in SOD and it appears they've removed the "fire" part from the bonus damage. It now just says " + 5-7 Damage"
If this isn't a bug, I wonder how it affects abilities that scale on weapon damage.
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