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评论来自 84526

The Hydraxian Waterlords is the faction for reputation from the 40-man Azerothian raid Molten Core.

评论来自 48132

This will probably be the hardest reputation achievement to get since you only get rep in MC, you need someone with the essence already, and rep is not fun to get.

Neutral to the end of Friendly you can do repeatable quests that bring you from Azshara to EPL / Silithus (edit: linked the quests) and back again, as well as get 1-5 rep per nonelite elemental you kill in Silithus or Burning Steppes.

From Honored to the end of Honored, only the elemental bosses in UBRS/BRD, a rare spawn in silithus, and MC trash mobs give rep. This will take a while since you only get 15-40 rep per mob.

After Honored going into Revered, you only get rep from bosses. 100 each, 200 for Rag, and 150 for Golemagg. That's about ~205-208.5 boss kills from Revered to beginning Exalted, which is about 19 runs, and since MC resets only once a week, that's about 15-19 weeks for Revered to Exalted ALONE.

Now when you get to maxed Revered, the only bosses that can get you 0-999 Exalted are Rag and Golemagg, which means about 4-5 MORE runs just to max it out, which in turn means another 4-5 weeks.

There are a couple other quests than the repeatable one, though as far as I can tell they do not give HW rep, except for http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?quest=7486 which gives 500.

All in all you're looking at a good solid 24-30+ weeks MINIMUM to get from neutral-max exalted.

PLEASE NOTE:: this is the ONLY way to get rep as of 9/09/2008, and reputation numbers are from level 60, these could have gone down from 70 and 80, making the achievement even MORE difficult to achieve.

评论来自 Djuntas

You will get 1050 for FULL run if im not mistaken :) 7 bosses that gives 100 rep and 1 boss that gives 150 and 1 boss that gives 200 rep.

Edit: After reverd thats it. See post above me

Its hard to grind if you didnt raid Pre-BC :)

评论来自 180024

I did MC for the fist time a few days ago, we only skipped a few trash mobs. I went from neutral to about 60 rep into friendly. so about 3k rep in a full MC run give or take.

评论来自 orionshock

If i remember correctly the trash in the raid will respawn even after the bosses have been killed. So one could go back after clearing the instance and do the trash nearly every day and get rep that way.

评论来自 Argias

Good news, brahs.

This impossibly impossible achievement is getting fixed.

SOURCE: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/7190890148-hydraxian-waterlords.html

Thanks for your query, which was passed along to our development team. This has been taken under consideration, and in a future patch creatures associated with the Hydraxian Waterlords will give full reputation irrespective of your character's level. :-)

评论来自 keeleeray

Killing Desert Rumbler (In Silithus) at level 56 gives you 5 reputation. Not sure how that works out for higher levels.

评论来自 Veneluure

Clearing all the trash in Molten Core (and leaving bosses up) while grinding your reputation to revered, grants you roughly 2500 reputation per run. So grinding yourself from neutral to revered, takes 7-8 runs.

评论来自 54499

For a reason unbeknown to me the reputation gain stopped at 20999/21000, it was only after I remade a raid group ( was soloing the instance before) that I was able to get exalted. So in order to save yourself some time and frustration. Please make sure you are in a raid group, just to get past the 21000 hurdle.

评论来自 Shashos

@Davey1971

The fact that you can pretty easily solo MC with just about any class now makes getting the Rep easier than ever. Combine that with the Rep Guild perks and the grind is not nearly as long as it used to be back when the rep truly mattered.

Been solo clearing trash/bosses for the last couple of weeks or so and got easily to Revered, got the right Windseeker Bindings, and lots of gold from drops.

Once you hit Revered, yeah, it feels sloowww, but honestly, run it once a week, then forget it and do the other stuff in-game that you'd be doing anyway. There is nothing -hard- about it. It's just your impatience at issue here.

评论来自 Deadbeat85

At 85, this rep grind isn't anywhere near as painful as it used to be.

First step is to get to max friendly - you can get up to 5999/6000 friendly from the elementals in Silithus and Burning Steppes elementals. The best place for this is the North-West of Silithus killing 沙漠奔行者 and 灰尘风暴 for 5 rep each - 11 for two with +10% rep guild perk (声望阁下, guild level 12). Running a loop around where the elementals spawn should allow you to kill all of them and get back to the start just about when they respawn. A couple of hours here can get you the 8999 rep you need - 1800 kills at base value, 1637 with 10% bonus. 哈瑞坎尼安 spawns around here too, worth 25 rep at base value.

Once you're 5999/6000 friendly, head on over to 熔火之心 - you'll be here for a while. Trash mobs will give you between 15 and 20 rep per kill EXCEPT 上古熔火恶犬. All sources seem to suggest these give 20 rep per kill, but not one since I started this rep grind has given up rep. A full clear will get you about 2400 rep, or about 2600 with the aforementioned perk. This means you'll need to do this at least 5 times to get from 5999/60000 friendly to 11999/12000 honored, when these mobs stop giving rep. For the sake of efficiency, avoid all bosses - you can kill every trash mob in the raid without pulling a boss, the only tricky part being 迦顿男爵, who roams around a patrol route. Watch where he moves - you can actually stand in the middle of his loop, just North of 沙斯拉尔, and have him roam around you without getting aggro. Pick off the groups around the room and drag them back to the centre to down them. Once you're moving on, stay on the right hand side while he moves up the narrow slope and move to the left when he passes and comes back the other way. Pull groups from one side to the other as you make your way up and dash past the narrowest part when he's on the way down.

As a ret paladin, I'm running a full trash clear in a little over half an hour (ilvl 359). Giving time for faffing, it should take you about 3 hours to make your way through Honored. On your final run, once you hit 11999/12000 honored, you can head back to the start and down the bosses - only they will give you rep now, and you can kill each one once per week. Killing all 9 bosses in Molten Core will get you 1050 rep, or 1155 with 声望阁下, meaning it'll take 21 weeks at base level or 19 weeks with the perk. Annoyingly, The final trash mob will leave you at 11999/12000 honored, so clearing all bosses 20 times (20 weeks) should leave you at exactly 20999/21000 revered. I'm not sure if you need to kill 焚化者古雷曼格 or 拉格纳罗斯 for that final point or if the regular bosses are enough to hit Exalted.

After that, it's another 3 weeks killing those two to get the pointless but pretty 999/1000 Exalted status. Congratulations!

评论来自 347714

Handy trick for grinding 海达希亚水元素 reputation for the 海达希亚水元素 achievement in 熔火之心:

If you stand at the entrance to the zone, you still receive reputation for all boss kills done by other members of your raid, regardless of your location in the zone! However, by remaining in one place, you can drop a 协同战旗, and stay within 100 yards of it. This allows you to actually get the 15% reputation bonus from the 协同战旗 for every boss in 熔火之心, especially since - without moving - the 协同战旗 stays out for 15 minutes and has only a 10-minute cooldown, ensuring 100% uptime.

This appears to be a unique feature of using 协同战旗 in 熔火之心, where you get reputation credit for boss kills just by being anywhere in the zone, eliminating the requirement for you to be near the boss, which in turn eliminates the need to actually have the 协同战旗 near boss, either.

Of course, it requires having at least one other player in the raid who can actually kill the bosses while you stand near your 协同战旗; nonetheless, a 15% bonus to all bosses can dramatically shorten the time to grind, especially the brutal rep-from-bosses-only part from Revered to Exalted... if you've got a friend who can help!

Note that the reputation bonus from 协同战旗 stacks with 声望阁下.

评论来自 crazeheals

I started grinding this faction way back in December and stopped at 12.000/21.000 to exalted. Right now I'm at 16.300 and believe me it's a borefest. If you're a priest like me get yourself a friend (rogue/melee in general) because of the possible drop binds (only saw Garr's in like 20 runs), still no eye from Raggy as well.

Just try to not fall to the boredom like I said and eventually once you hit exalted you will forever leave this place alone.

Quick edit: remember to always kill the Molten Destroyers (4 of them are guaranteed to spawn at Garr and 2-4 in the vicinity) they drop blood of the mountain which sells for 500-1000 gold a piece (needed for the Sulfuron hammer). You can soft reset the raid (logging out 30 mins or more) to have these guys respawn which will make the transition from neutral to revered faster.

评论来自 Buhh

I am Troll Mage in Ice Spec for MC. full run gave me 1328 rep at revered and in a level 25 guild
Trying to maximize rep gains I decided to use 协同战旗 on every boss (excluding Executus as he yields no rep).
It mean killing more trash than usual and killing it to clear between bosses prior to killing bosses.
I went to 鲁西弗隆 and 玛格曼达. Killed three packs of 熔火恶犬 between them using . DPS'd 鲁西弗隆 to 20%, dropped the 协同战旗 and killed them both(127+126 rep).
Went to 基赫纳斯 and cleared trash from there to 加尔. Then I killed them both.(127+126 rep)
Went to 迦顿男爵 and cleared out the trash to 沙斯拉尔 carefully without pulling 迦顿男爵. I had a few minutes wait time here for the Standard CD. Engaged 迦顿男爵 and dropped standard at 10% before killing him. Then proceeded to kill 沙斯拉尔.(127+126 rep)
I went to 萨弗隆先驱者 and cleared all trash from there to 焚化者古雷曼格. Then I went back to 萨弗隆先驱者. I started by killing the healers and then kited it close to 焚化者古雷曼格. At 10% I dropped the standard, killed 萨弗隆先驱者, turned around and killed 焚化者古雷曼格.(127+189 rep)
Then proceeded to 管理者埃克索图斯 - normal fight, no standard as you don't kill the boss(killing all the adds only). Then I went to 拉格纳罗斯 started the intro, and just before the fight started dropped the standard, popped everything to get it over fast (he died before my TW was over)(253 rep)
So to sum up, I only had to wait before 迦顿男爵 for the standard, however I got to kill more trash than I usually do.

For mages:
I recommend Frost spec here because the 水元素 is very handy for keeping the boss occupied while I kill adds(Lucifron and Gehennas), or the other way around (Garr, Golemagg and Executus). For the latter, throwing Freeze (Pet "frost nova") on the adds helps maintain agro on them. On Executus, I try to make it agro as many as possible, to only have to deal with one add at a time - requires a lot of targeting. Put it to passive when he gets teleported to the center before reenganging.
Using Invisibility carefully (use, wait 1-2 seconds, then shoot Ice Lance before the fight disengages) can also help put the agro back to the WE
I use Mirror Images on Garr and Executus to make those fights a lot easier.
On Ragnaros, I stand near the "second" rock formation to get avoid getting thrown

评论来自 Eralson

Superior to, yet inexplicably less popular than, the Orean waterlords.

评论来自 pancakelizard

At 90, nothing really aggros anymore. On occasion a core hound. You can do a clear with focus on the bosses in under 30 minutes (90/spriest).

评论来自 JaggySnake

At level 90 in a level 25 guild it has taken me 23 full runs to get to exalted. In that time, I've seen 2 bindings off of Garr and 1 eye off of Ragnaros.

评论来自 kingsmarty

Rejoice: You will be able to get this rep from the upcoming 10th Anniversary Molten Core LFR at level 100.

Source: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/14609681609#3

评论来自 31957

I just wanted to put this comment right at the top since nothing has been said about this problem in a while and it will save some scrolling.

After the grinding of this rep, I found myself stuck at 20999/21000. Thinking things were bugged, I came here to see if there were any known bugs about this. There is no actual bug as such.

Even though you DON'T need to be in a Raid Group to enter this raid, you DO need to be in a Raid Group in order to get over that hurdle of 1 point.

Hope this helps :)

评论来自 Shaani

I had same problem as Brunnhilde. Today I earn exalted with Hydraxian Waterlords but i get rep only by killing 2 bosses: Golemagg the Incinerator and Ragnaros.

评论来自 Wuatdah

I don't know why, but I foresee this achievement becoming a Legacy or Feat of Strength achievement some day.

评论来自 Longfeng

Proud owner of this achievement since 05/08/2015.

That was a long ride :S

评论来自 Hawkeye5723

Ok, at 110 7.1.5 this is the breakdown.. & it SUCKS..

I am listing this as if starting at rock bottom neutral..

3000 0/3000 friendly
6000 0/6000 honoured
12,000 0/12,000 revered
21,000 0/21,000 exhalted
999 0/999 cap

This means from Zero to Hero is 42,999 total..

After 5 runs I can confirm these figures for a single complete clear..
2440 from trash
1050 from bosses
3490 total

Rep from trash will stop at 11,999 revered

This means that Mr No-Rep can gain:
20,999 from trash
1050 from bosses
resulting in 1049/21000 revered total in 1 day

All fairly good... So far!

From now on rep is available ONLY from bosses..

This means:
1049/20,999
1050 x 19 WEEKS

Then it gets worse! Rep is only available from the last 2 bosses to get to 21,000 onwards..

This means:
0/999
350 total from final 2 boss x 3 WEEKS

So, this means Mr No-Rep can go from 0 neutral to 1049 revered (22,050) in 1 DAY
but to finish 1049 revered to 999 exhalted (20,949) takes a further 22 WEEKS, nearly 6 MONTHS!

How frikkin stooopid is that, that is painful now for lvl110 Mr No-Rep doing it on his own.. It was worse back in the day when it took us 40 people!

That is why I had stopped years ago at 349/12,000 until I started again.. & remembered why I had given this rep up for 10 years..

评论来自 Oldbury

I haven't noticed any other comment covering this, but you can reset the trash in MC to farm up to 0/21000 Revered within a single lockout. Here's how this trick works:

1) Sign yourself up for an old LFR - I personally used Legion LFRs as the NPC is in Dalaran and easily accessible using the Dalaran Hearthstone.

2) Teleport out of LFR but do not leave the instance group and make your way to Molten Core.

3) Clear all trash that isn't out of the way but do not kill ANY bosses! - personally I stayed on the main line and skipped Magmadar's Cavern.

4) Re-enter the LFR you queued for using the eye icon on your minimap, then immediately teleport out again. You should be placed at Forgewright's Tomb in Blackrock Mountain, completely skipping the ~5 minute run back through Molten Core.

5) Re-enter MC and you should find all the trash back up. Repeat until revered.

I got to revered in less than 1h doing this and it will save quite a few MC lockouts on the way to Exalted.

评论来自 Omgwtfpwnoobsftw

The good news is this achievement only takes about 3.5 hours to complete. The bad news is that 3.5 hours is spread over 19+ weeks.

P1: start a custom group in the groupfinder. Doesnt matter what you call it, you arent actually inviting anyone to it. clear all trash while skipping all bosses. Any boss kill ruins this, so be careful. When you are almost done, leave your party. It will give you a 60 sec countdown before it teleports you out. Easy exit. Reset the instance and repeat about 9 times. You can get to revered in about an hour to 90 minutes.

P2: trash no longer gives rep, so you have to actually kill the bosses, which means only 1 time a week. It takes about 8 minutes per week, 19 weeks to get exalted.

If you are horde, the travel time to get to the instance isn't trivial. It can almost double your total time. It can be helpful to set your hearth to a nearby in if possible. To save the most time, make your MC run the last thing you do for week 1, and the first thing you do for week 2, so you are basically running it twice in a row. This saves half the travel.

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