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评论来自
227538
I was lucky enough to get one of the Brewfest mounts, but I also know a lot of people who didn't. If the Proto-Drake wasn't a 310% mount the luck element might be bearable, but it's the sort of thing that very few people will pass up the chance to get. As it is there's little more to do than hope you get it; the only consolation is that the Proto-Drake won't be attainable until Brewfest next year anyway, which means that even having to wait for next year wouldn't be so bad.
评论来自
232628
Well, Blizz says they're not going to change the requirement for this achievement, they're happy with it the way it is.
Post
here
We have no plans to change this achievement or remove it from the meta achievement. The drop rates were adjusted from last year to be more forgiving, so third-party data concerning the drop rate isn't accurate. A Mask For All Occasions was far, far less likely to complete within Hallow's End than Sinister Calling; the latter is reasonable enough to remain within Hallowed Be Thy Name.
评论来自
Idanian
I've run this 20 times before today. I've seen 3 pets and 2 helms... Which to me is an increase on the pet drop rate. However, the helm seems to have dropped less based on last year's experiences... Still no mount though.
I'm just down to this and the Toothpick achievement for the title. (An average of 30 possible packages and nothing. Meanwhile my lv. 1 shaman has over 60 toothpicks and a flawless grin.)
When in doubt, though, get some guildies and "buy out" their roll for the stuff...
评论来自
125087
in the first 3 kills 2 helms dropped.
40-50 kills total now, no horse, no more helms, no pet, and only 4 brooms, nor the plate helmet.
评论来自
125087
I wish the game would be smart and NOT drop a ring EVERYbody already has. tired of seeing
you have automaticly passed on
person 1 has auctomacitly passed on because they already have it
person 2 " "
person 3 " "
person 4 " "
Everybody has passed on
评论来自
Starkie
I just got finished with a run, and the 2nd to last summon, the pet dropped, which I was lucky enough to win the roll on, the last summon, the helm dropped, which I was un-lucky enough to not win, but oh well, still two weeks to go. I think its honestly just a case of getting really, really lucky.
评论来自
thycondrius
u can obatain the mini pet in the trick or threat bag. Today i have found it and i complete all the hallowed end fest achievement
评论来自
233721
I have some guildies who have been helping me get extra summons by us swapping out alts. Average 10-20 summons a night. Tonight will be our 4th night.
I've seen the mount 1. plate helm 6. hallowed helm 3. And the sword enough times that even a priest has it. But not yet to see the pet.
The best rule we've came up with is "These are no longer luxery items, they are quest items. If your not going for it, you cannot roll for it."
Blizzard honestly goofed on this one regardless of what they think, if average of 3/5 people wanted the pet and assuming a 2.5% drop rate. In theory that would be 120 summons by the same 5 people for everyone to acquire it. Or 24 days worth of 5 summons if that was all you were allowed. Last I checked there's only 16 days of hollows end.
评论来自
233787
A fantastic method of completing the achievement. Me and 3 friends went in this afternoon and rotated random 65's in for their summons. In three hours we had Sinister Squashling X4, Hallowed Helm X1 and 3 swords. Oh and all the 65's got their epic rings as promised.
评论来自
178420
The Sinister Squashling and Hallowed Helm now drop from trick or treat bags given by innkeepers. High drop rate supposedly.
评论来自
2OfDiamonds
This might cheer you up!
I just pulled my sinister squashling out of a treat bag I got handed by an inn keeper for trick or treating.
FLEX!
I just got a helm out of a treat bag.
I already had one.
http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot102208101007rn6.jpg
And a
blue response
:
Q u o t e:
I'll go ahead and put the speculation to rest by confirming that this change is indeed legitimate. ;)
Have fun you guys, this brought a smile to my face at least.
<3
评论来自
233876
i just got mine from the squash the pumpkin
评论来自
130170
both the Hallowed Helm and Sinister Squashling can now be looted from trick or treating innkeepers. I believe this is a hotfix from 22/10 (or 10/21 for US I guess)
评论来自
234165
The helm dropped 3times the same day for me. n the pet has sofar dropped twice for me. tho on different toons so i don´t have the quest completed yet :(.
With that said i think the droprate is better then u´d think.
评论来自
3207
Just verifying that they do actually come out of treat bags as well. I saw a level 5 yesterday with one . I was rather aggravated...
评论来自
kuonji
I have been trick-or-treating as often as I can since the hotfix. I'd say at least 15 times. Neither have dropped for me yet. At this rate, I believe I'll complete the masks achievement before the sinister calling achievement.
评论来自
chilichump
I have done atleast 9 HH's per day, 5-6 trick or treats per day, and the "put out the fires" daily every day... I've seen maybe 5 squashling drop in all of that time.
9x9 = 81 attempts on HH (at least, probably closer to 100 total attempts)
so we're looking at a maximum of a 5% drop chance. The helm, I've seen 8-10 of since I got one from a trick or treat bag.
I've got 5 days left to get this done, and I don't like my chances. This shouldn't be such a hard thing to do, the drop rate should be closer to 25%, so that you've got at least a 1 in 5 chance of getting 1 every day.
评论来自
Starkie
Alright, I have to share this experience with all of you, because it has to be by far the funniest thing I've ever had happen to me.
One of the first runs of this year, I happened to get the pet, and my best friend, on his own run, but near the beginning of the event, got the hallowed helm.
Now, since that time, we've both been trying our damnedest to get the other one, each day running and failing, on our own. But today, we finally decided, that maybe we'd have better luck running it together, so we did.
The first 3 kills, no luck, whatever, whats new. But on the 4th kill, low and behold, the hallowed helm drops! I am so stoked, I need, and everyone else passes! Bam, its mine, and so is the achievement, and so is the title (Once they remove the mask one). Excited, I proceed to summon the 5th and final fight, we kill him, and what do our eyes see? but the pet! So, my friend nearly @#$%ing his pants, needs, and everyone else PASSES.
I can not believe that just happened.
Thought you might all enjoy that story.
评论来自
236832
Well it's defenitly do-able. i got mine pet today. i were lucky got the helm + broom on the very first day. But i killed the headlesshorseman like 40 times. Today i saw the pet drop for the very first time. i needed , it was an group with all friends so they gave it to me for the tittle.
So guys you have to work for it. it may be an hard achievment. if you guys want an easy tittle go get the "jenkins" tittle
评论来自
shohanu
people are saying this is gonna be one of the most difficult achievements to get cuz of low drop rate and stuff. but considering hallows end is like 2 weeks long u can trick or treat once an hour and u can get both these items from the bag (however small the chance is) it shouldnt be too difficult. 3 loots a day should get u it but some people might get lucky.I just started again after losing my 70 and happened to get the helm 2nd trick or treat and the squashling 3rd but my friend got helm 2nd squashling like 30th so its all luck just keep trying youll get it
评论来自
Yttrium
Is it possible for me to delete my Hallowed Helm after I have the achievement? I have a severe lack of bag and bankspace as it is and I don't want an item that I will never wear.
评论来自
Arikara
I hate the squashling... two and a half years bck i wanted it, killed HH nearly everyday for the time of the world event. Didnt get!
one and a half year bck... i still wanted it, but this time badder due to achievement. did i get it? nope. did every achievement but this (i got the helm, ofc) except A mask for Every Occasion.
a half year out the future: i stand in SM at 00:01 shouting GIVE ME MY SQUASHLING, HORSEMAN!
评论来自
Thakor
This is the most idiotic achievement in history, and should not be part of the meta. You are required to get 2 items that have impossibly low drop rates, and not only that,
if
they do drop, you have to win the roll against 4 other people, meaning that however low the drop rate is, your chance realistically of getting it is going to be 20% of that. Ridiculous. Even if they drop from treat bags, myself and my friends who participated in the halloween event this past year were unable to get both drops no matter how hard we tried. One of my friends ran the horseman 5+ times a day the entire event and never even saw the pet drop and he also trick or treated nearly every time his cd was up. This is by far the most unforgiving and impossible achievement for the meta.
评论来自
Haxan
This achivement gives me nightmares. I have done Hallows End for two years, killed Headless Horseman almost every day and
never
got the Sinister Squashling. And the droprate for it seems awfully low. Because of this I didnt complete this achivement last year. Blizzard must increse the droprate, both from the boss or from the bags or this will be as terrible as the "Be Mine" - achivement during Love is in the air.
评论来自
240801
Trading head to some other person after you get it doesnt work for achievement,friend traded me hallowed head and i didnt get credit for my achievement,so you need to loot it or to win in on roll if it drops from headless horseman!
Good luck with drops,but it seems that blizzard has inscreased chance since we saw 2 pets and 1 head droped from our very first run this year :)
Drop chance on pet seems to be very very high,2 runs 5 pet drops
评论来自
111622
You won't get credit through Trading.
评论来自
49893
You CAN get credit through trading. I was traded the helm earlier tonite by someone who already had credit but mistakenly won the helm.
Initially I did not get credit towards the achievement. However, after going through a loading screen, I was given credit - the helm is not soulbound to me yet so I could conceivably trade it to someone else as well.
IT DOES WORK. Just go through a loading screen to do it.
评论来自
303016
Contrary to the aforementioned unfortunate luck of many of you, I managed to have the Helm drop within my first day's set of runs. Only needing this as I had the pet from last year, I rolled and I won.
I can understand why so many you are frustrated at having to fight the dreaded RNG to finish this achievement and earn the Violet Proto; been there, done that (and I suffer from Anxiety too, ouch). That said, you don't want to trivialize something you work so hard for, no matter how desperately you want it, otherwise it loses it's special nature.
Take it from someone who's completed the grand meta, it's
so
worth earning this the right way. Give it your all and you will get it.
Good luck!
评论来自
Cirayne
I just got both the
Sinister Squashing
and
Hallowed Helm
from a
Crudely Wrapped Gift
.
You get that from doing the daily put out the fire at the starting towns, IE Goldshire, Kharanos, and Azure Watch (For Alliance), and smash the pumpkin from the Headless Horseman.
Hope this helps.
评论来自
471454
Pretty freakin lame blizz is making this achievement required for the title. Considering it is based on luck and we have no control over acquiring the items. They should increase the drop rates or make them purchasable items with the otherwise useless pumpkin treats. Ive alrdy got 95% of the achievs for title, but im concerned about this last one....
评论来自
rkaycom
If you have the item traded to you and keep it, will the other person lose the achievement when they relog?
Edit: Its just that the way I see it, the person that keeps the item gets the achievement, not the one that wins the roll, what if it was on master loot? There wouldn't be a roll...
评论来自
438654
Just got one out of a treat bag - was extremely excited when I saw this. Just keep trying any way you can - you'll eventually get it.
评论来自
473043
Last night we looted the helm and traded it to all 5 people in the group.
Went out the instance and back in, on the achievement tab it turned Green.
But when i logged in this morning it was gone again.
I dont know if we should have relogged while having the helm equipped (didnt try that).
And I also dont know what happens when y already have the pet.
评论来自
Sithicus
So I've lost the roll on the Squashling 3 times and can't seem to get it out of a Treat Bag. Granted it's still very early in the event and there's plenty of time to try and get one...problem is when my entire meta is riding on the luck of getting it (literally ....everything is done except Sinister Calling), it's making the event stressful and not fun at all. Didn't Blizz say at one point that they wanted to remove any random drops from the meta completely? I'm pretty sure that's why they removed Perma Peddle...I know I'm just being qq here but it still sucks...seriously ..an entire years worth of work riding on dumb luck. :\
评论来自
381520
Blahalbalbab it seems is doesnt work.... i thought it would as that dude bought it from me for 300g but nvm then lol
评论来自
Hairband
Is there any objective way to tell how often both items, Sinister Squashling pet and Hallowed Helm drop from their respective sources (pumpkin smash daily, trick or treat hourly treat bags, or daily Headless Horseman summon)? Thanks.
评论来自
highwind123
Is this "hallowed helm" really in game ?
I killed the hhm ~50 times last year and ~10 times this year.
I got TWO hhm mounts out of him.
I used the trick or treat option at the inkeeper probably about 100 times last year and this year.
I got probably about 20 pets.
And guess what... the hallowed helm achievment is the ONLY thing which stands between my warrior alt and my 310% mount. nice rng blizzard, really nice rng.
评论来自
77705
I don't know what the hell everyone else is talking about when they said trading it works. This is what happened to me.
Some stupid ******* rolled on the helm by mistake (didn't need it and didn't mean to roll on it) and won it, auto looted it, then traded it to me.
I don't get credit because I didn't loot it. All I need is that ****ing Hallowed Helm. I got screwed because of someone else's mistake and Blizzards ****ing flawed system....
评论来自
Ooglepants
This seems to be the hardest (or most luck intensive) part of the achievement. I have been doing the daily and have NEVER seen the helm drop. 2 characters, 10 times a day (almost every day thus far) and trick or treated 10-15 times. I'm hoping that since I've gotten everything BUT the helm, the gods of blizzard will somehow increase my chances of getting it. The pet seems to be a much higher drop rate - to the point that I have gotten two by accident on my characters. Best of luck, but certainly I am getting slightly anxious at this point on seeing it drop.
评论来自
475909
In case you havent seen this blue post
We wanted to take a moment to clarify how the Sinister Calling achievement works for Hallow’s End. The text says that both a Hallowed Helm and a Sinister Squashling pet need to be “obtained” for the achievement to be complete. More specifically, the pet needs to be learned and become part of your pet spell book for that part to be complete. The Hallowed Helm on the other hand needs to be looted by the character to fulfill that aspect of the achievement.
We apologize for any confusion in this matter and hope you enjoy the rest of Hallow’s End!
The trading techinc work like a charm for me. Another person looted the helm (won the roll) and he traded it back to me. At first i didnt got the achivement BUT after getting out of SM it popped green. (havent got the pet yet from sinister calling).
Strange thing is a guildie tried to do the same yesterday but didnt earned credit for the achivement. (maybe he did something wrong dunno).
Anyway hoping for the pet to drop for me real soon :)
评论来自
Llethalas
Just a heads up for those who didn't find it clear in the above posts. YOU CANNOT GET ACHIEVEMENT CREDIT FOR THIS IF YOU TRADE FOR EITHER ITEM. YOU MUST LOOT BOTH PERSONALLY FROM EITHER TREAT BAGS OR Mr. HORSEMAN. Ok sorry for caps, but I wanted to clear this up since I saw conflicting posts about this above. I tried trading a party member for it and zoned back to Dalaran and still no achievement credit. Hope this helps.
评论来自
343516
i must be extremely lucky. i got my sinister squashling at my very first run at headless horsman!
still i miss the helm lol
评论来自
473940
you know the truth is that im not afraid to work for an achievement, the feeling of accomplishment is a great one. i still have to agree though this drop rate is sad.
my wife and i have killed the horsemen everyday, we are at 30 - 35 kills and ive only seen the Helm drop 2 times (i dont even care if i get the mount right now). fortunately for us we have only gone with guild members and that has given us a better chance, if we were in random groups who knows if we both would ever get the pet and helm. (she finally finished her Meta last night when the pet dropped). im still waiting, while im at work she is trick or treating for me every waking hour on the hour. still nothing...
if blizzard is so determined to make this apart of the Meta why not change it to obtain the pet OR the helm, and if you happen to get both drops then have an achievement for that just not a requirement to finish the Meta. agree?
it sucks to know that like most others, i finished all the achievements in the first couple of days. (with the exception of some glitch candy buckets) there is a chance that i wont get this title this year.
评论来自
476730
I've had a guildie who has gotten the pet eight times. Blizzard should make the pet b.o.e. I even tried writing a ticket to see if they could move the pet I got on a toon last year that I never use now to my main.
评论来自
477977
I dont know about the everyone else but i am getting sick and tired of blizz makeing achivments only realy close to doableif you are a high level, the laugth is it seems complete random even if you can get trick or treat.
Ofcouse this would be a good opatunity for blizz to reward good manners if are youare polite and friendly to the inn keeperby rewarding with a treat punching them with a trick for bad manners.
Then maybe they might try it with the healer class and find more of us willing to help, as I am defently sick coments
when in a party like priest come :(
评论来自
478293
Countless hours, toons, dings, achievements, guilds and good times..... and after it all, it's going to be this ridiculous Squashling that turns me off this game for good. lol/sigh
评论来自
Animalistic
heck, i think they musta fixed it... just got the pet and learnt it, and a party-mate got the helm and traded it to me.. no achievement. Relogged and didn't get it either. Have been moving about through different zones, no achievement.
评论来自
478771
On my level 30 Warlock, every hour I would hearth, get trick/treat, vendor items and get repairs. Doing that, I got both the helm and the pet within a week of the event beginning. Last year I got 2 helms and one pet. This is available for any level.
评论来自
lufebr
Guys,
The Sinister Calling achievement is totally unfair to be considered mandatory for the meta achievement.
The probability of getting the items are very very low. Even if you play 24 hours per day, every day during the 2 weeks of event, you still have a chance of not getting the achievement at all.
Im my case: I play wow every day, and i'm doing everything that i can to get the achievement: Since the first day, I'm getting a bag from the innerkeper every hour i play, i'm doing the daily every day, and i'm also killing the boss every day.
To improve my chances, I begged for help, and my friends are now doing everything they can to help me too. So, i'm killing the boss about 8 times a day (with no competition for the helm, if it drops, its mine), and I'm also getting 1 bag every hour even when i'm working.
The result: After 12 days doing all that, I got dozens of Sinister Squashlings, and 16 different masks. Still, no single Hallowed Helm yet.
Of course I've been unlucky.... but.. should all that effort be worth nothing? Should this achievement be so impossible?
In 2 days the event will end, and my chances are getting shorter...
One year acomplishing every world event.. and I may have to wait for one more year to get the 310% mount, just because one of the achievements is lucky based, with a really low drop rate.
In my oppinion, Blizzard should consider the drop rate a bug, and make this achievement, and all other lucky based ones, not required for the mount.
Blizzard, please fix the Sinister Calling.
评论来自
442454
Well, there's always
next
halloween... right?
*begins a mad little giggle as left eyelid begins to twitch*
RIGHT!
damn you, squashling.
damn you.
-.-
评论来自
Thundurstar
It was the only thing I needed last year.... now it is also the only thing I need next year. Saw it drop 2 times, lost both rolls. Never got it from trick-or-treating. So upsetting.
评论来自
Thundurstar
Take this out blizzard! As soon as it's out. Send me my drake because im officially done. :(
评论来自
Samphis
After an extremely frustrating experience of attempting every day for the summon, and every hour for the trick or treat, and not getting the pet, but having gotten (and gotten credit for) the helm, I just noticed both in-game and on the armory no longer having credit for the helm, yet I still have it in my bank. I hope this means that the achievement is being retuned into a vendor-style holiday item like Noblegarden was. I really don't want to be one random piece of loot away from my proto drake AGAIN.
评论来自
Lutenantj
i am saying from experience that if you do not get both the pet and the helm in the same year, it resets the achievement (i was like WTF?)
i got the helm, not the pet
the pet did drop multiple times for me, but i had bad luck
have fun!
评论来自
PhantomsDesire
Oh joy, It's taken me 3 years come Hallow's End to finally earn the meta achievement (because I missed random holidays throughout the years.) and now after reading all these comments, I am REALLY nervous about getting my final title "The Hallowed". Cripes, I hope they have adjusted the drop rates, because when I go for these holiday titles, I definitely put forth the effort, just like everyone's mentioned. I'm bustin' out my Sam doll from the movie "Trick r' Treat" for luck! Merry Samhain everyone..........
评论来自
MingtheMerciless
This achievement was a real pain in the arse for me. I kept doing the fire and horseman dailies and trick-or-treating whenever i could, and the f-ing
pet
didn't drop! I got the
hallowed helm
3 or 4 times though -.- My increasingly desperate search for it came to an end on the second last day when i looted it from the Headless Horseman, i need rolled on it and won it! I then smacked it upside the head for not coming to me earlier, stupid pumpkin! >:(
Blizz should really remove this from being part of the
meta-achievement
.
评论来自
johankj
You will now get that items in
Loot-Filled Pumpkin
You can only get "one" every day until hallows's end ends.
You will get this:
Sinister Squashling
Hallowed Helm
Magic Broom
The Horseman's Baleful Blade
The Horseman's Horrific Helm
The Horseman's Reins
Weighted Jack-o'-Lantern
when you have open your
Loot-Filled Pumpkin
Good luck with Hallow's End =)
评论来自
Grigor12
This got to be taken out of the meta since the latest update with server-wide parties, atleast in my opinion since now, it won't even drop off the boss anymore but instead it will be like brewfest and be lootable from your bag you get..! Silly updates since you can't farm them anymore!
I mean come on... just having luck to try and get an achievment
ONCE
a year is absurd!
I mean for example, the "We had it all along! *cough*" achievement may require a whole bag of luck, but then again that achievement is available 365 days a year! Instead of this achievement that is only available 14 days a year!
Shape up Blizz! :/
评论来自
671902
agree
it was bad last year, on another char I never managed to get the pet, and I farmed the boss several times
Now we have only 1 chance a day? That's just retarded..i need only the hallowed title to get my violet drake but I'll never get it, it seems
Since lfg came out I've never been able to get a mount or pet from a seasonal boss..ahune? no luck with the pet
brewfest? people running around with two mounts, sometimes even dropping em twice and I was lucky enough to get a mace and vendor it
c'mon blizz, remove this from the meta
评论来自
414006
I have only needed this achieve for the past six months to get my purple drake. I was unlucky last year and could not get a Sinister Squashling to drop. Although, I did get the Hallowed Helm last year. So on the first day of Hallow's End this year, BAM, I get a Sinister Squashling from the Cuddle-Wrapped gift. But, no achievement pops up so I check it out and it shows the Hallowed Helm part as incomplete even though I have it equipped from last year? Should I open a ticket?
评论来自
377117
same here, I've been lucky to get the Brewfest Kodo to drop for me but for this to be a part of a meta achivement is just crazy. I got most of my other achives by effort now I have to depend on luck which I don't have much off bcuz RNG doesn't favour me. Having run for Deathcharger and Hawkstrider and they haven't drop for me
评论来自
gni3w
All i can say, THIS IS JUST NUTS, I've been doing every Achv, holiday since this year, because i wanna get proto drake! SO FAR SO GOOD, only missing this holiday and xmas one, and i can get it so i was looking through stuff i need to do AND NO WAY IN HELL I will be able to get 2 items! I HAVE THE WORST LUCK in my life ever! I will try!.
This is just plain stupid. FML.
btw we should post this crap on blizz web site and tell 'em. I Will file a ticket to GM asking to remove this crap from HH and do for daily or something, or better drop rate, anything to get it easier since ppl been trying, hard
评论来自
684326
This is the 3rd year waiting for the damn helm and pet to drop. Achievements should not have to rely on pure luck, just hard work. If I don't get it this year Blizz can kiss my ass goodbye, not that they give a sh%t! They think by making us wait yet another year we will keep paying, nice scam!
评论来自
598632
All I really have to say is that if and item is called a "Loot-Filled Pumpkin" it should be filled with loot. Even if it is only the flying broom when it isn't one of the other items. I like many others have been waiting on this singular achievement for my proto-drake, and to receive nothing other than the justice points from the boss is more than a bit frustrating.
评论来自
Chigyy
my Sinister Squashling dropped today in treat bag....i thought that it drops only once in Horseman daily..
but it also drops in a treat bag...
so im waitin for the helm...
and good luck all with the title...
评论来自
471535
To get this achievement, i cranked some numbers, which may or may not be right, i'm no statistician but i've seen it done :P
Numbers here are done Using Drop data information from wowhead here. which may be out of date.
For a Level 80 character:
There are a total of 336 attempts (14*24) to Trick or Treat from an innkeeper.
-16 of those attempts can be tossed out due to tuesday maintenance (sometimes more, sometimes less)
-50% of those remaining are automatic Failures, due to Trick.
-That leaves 160 Treat Bags to open to try to get the Pet and Hat.
-So, the chance at NOT getting each item is 98.7% (1.3% droprate for both)
0.987 ^ 160 = 12.3% chance at the end of it all still not walking away with each one from Treat Bags.
Now for the 'fuzzy math' of people needing to Sleep, Work/School, do something other than sit and watch that hour count down. I sleep about 8 hours a day, have class four hours a day and have a wedding trip to attend for a full weekend w/o WoW during the event (not my own though~).
-8*11 (sleep) + 24*3 (wedding) + 8*4 (classes). = 192 total chances gone, I'll trim those right off the top.
-I have about 120 Chances to get a bag or 60 Bags over the course of this holiday.
-0.987 ^ 60 = 45% chance for me to NOT get each of the two items from the Trick or Treat Bags.
"There's the daily for putting out fires!"
0.982 ^ 14 = 77% of not getting it. (81% for me!) At an average of the 1.7% &1.9% droprates
"But wait, there's still the headless horseman event!"
7% chance at getting either drop from him.
0.93 ^ 14 = 36 % chance at NOT getting it. (I have about a 45% chance at not getting either this method too, due to missing a few days)
Working the figures for my personal case now we get 0.45*0.45*0.91 = 0.164 or 16.4% chance at not seeing each item.
Now since i need both items, that means 0.836*0.836=0.6988 or 69.9% chance at getting both this entire holiday for a 'normal' person.
TLDR version -
I have only a 70% chance at getting this, mathematically... with no skill involved... this doesn't sit well with me.
This is the Last achievement i need for Hallow's End so... i begin my wait...
评论来自
144992
I see im not alone with this... I'm just missing this one for the whole Meta... Sigh if i can't make it this year, wich will be most likely...
Good luck to everyone else... :)
**EDIT**
6 Helms so far... WTB mount please? :)
评论来自
Kannas
After the mount failure that was my Brewfest, the RNG gods are looking out for me. Can I get the odds of getting the Helm from my first trick or treat, and the pet from my first HH kill ever?
评论来自
andoring
Two years ago I got the sinister squashling on my Auction wench. Went to the bucket... did the trick or treat and got it... first and only try. I did a little dance. Now, I struggle to get it on my main where I'm actually trying to do the achievement. Karma?
评论来自
shipwrecksos
For every other World Event so far this year, Blizzard has taken these "rare drop" pets and items and made them obtainable through some kind of
seasonal
specific
currency
through a vendor, or removed the item from the meta-achievement requirements, or BOTH. So, why they decided not to make some kind of "Hallow's End" currency/vendors for this stuff
is beyond me
. It would have saved SO much frustration for so many players!
评论来自
Mymloch
I'll agree that this is ridiculous. I don't feel good about not being able to get the violet proto achievement just because of a small, seemingly insignificant non-combat pet.
I would think Blizzard would have made the achievement require you to get either one or the other, but to have 2 RNG items required for a single achievement is a little much. I mean, they might as well have left the Flimsy Masks achievement on the block, as well.
I am trick or treating every hour, and have my wife doing it for me while I am at work. I am running HH and Fire daily as well. If doing that, one still has a good chance of NOT getting a single achievement item, then that's simply bad form.
评论来自
674925
Has anyone made a petition from the players to Blizzard about dropping this achievement from the Hallowed be Thy Name requirements? I see so many high ratings on people suggesting it be event currency/vender items, and other suggestions o'course. I'd sign the petition if there is one currently out there for this, it's just ridiculous. even with the increased drops just from the horseman, most people spend their days parked in front of an innkeeper, TrT'ing on the hour, praying they don't get a trick, and hoping the helm or pet drops this time. I for one, got eight penny pouches in a row after a days worth of tricks.
I think almost all the achievs' within each separate yearly event for What a long, strange trip it's been' (if not all, I'm not sure) require some skill and determination to do- and somehow gaining a pet with a low drop rate, (even if raised a lot from previous years, there are still tons of people who never see it for them) just...doesn't feel more than pure, gut-wrenching woe and anger when its been a year, and another...and another. While Blizzard assuradly wants us to keep paying to play all those years of failure, I'd think they might want their players actually sticking around for more reasons than this. We may never see this change, but hey, they DID change the brew-fest achievement because we complained about it enough, perhaps if we shake the walls a little more we can get this one changed, dropped from the meta, or venderized.
评论来自
435154
I keep getting both the helm and the squashling, but ONLY on those that already got it. To get both of them is disasterous difficult.
This is due to the Random Number Generator they use in WoW. Due to the seeding in this RNG, often the same result (or lack of result) repeats itself over and over for a period of time.
And we all feel it very well for the most awful meta achievement ever. I rather do something sure that takes 2 hours, than have to gamble day out and in for those 2 items.
评论来自
687498
According to mmo as of about 3 or 4 days ago, master riding WILL in fact be given for long strange trip. I understand there was some confusion because of debate but blizz released it was so fairly recently.
评论来自
wolfie614
This is becoming beyond a joke.
I have one toon who has been trying to get this for the last three years. Still not got either.
I just watched a quildie of mine get both the Helm and the pet in the
same
run.
And he normally does not go for any of the achievements.
My missus also now has 3 pets on one toon, and no helm.
I understand that random is random, but
PLEASE
, what do we have to do to get this!
HH runs every morning, Put out the fire and loot the pumpkin head, Trick or Treat every hour (about 13 per day), on every toon, and not one has both the pet and helm yet.
评论来自
687705
OMG!
i've tried again and again to do this with my main! i'm doing the daily dungeon everyday for the past few days and i also do it many times a day so i'll have a chance to drop it from boss.. today i log in with my alt and they both (hat and pet) drop from the bag! i was like "you've got to be kidding me! no way!" i'm reallt pissed off-.- at least i have hope now to get them with my main too. cause i'm not really in the mood to do all the achs again with my alt to get the tittle:P
评论来自
AveryZan
Why not simply make the boss drop the pets and helmets like it used to? That way people can repeat this until they drop rather then just getting 1 shot from a bag that usually drops a masque or has no loot. This would be the perfect solution that so many frustrated players. All i see are bad rings noone ever wants, mix it up a little.
评论来自
688664
This Achivement should be renamed "No Soup for You - Come Back, 1 Year".
评论来自
Roeth
It IS possible to get both of these in one pumpkin. I got them both in the same bag, on my 3rd day. I'd still say drop rates are low.
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评论来自
632858
This thing is driving me insane. Right now I have like 60 tooth picks, 5 squashlings, the horseman's reins, the horseman's sword, and a whole load of other crap, but i have yet to get the hallowed helm. And to make it even worse, one of my other characters found the helm from trick or treat! I vote for removing this achievement from the meta achievement, as it is the last thing I need till i get my violet proto drake, and it just seems impossible to drop. That, or allow me to trade some squashlings for the helm.
评论来自
danilche
I run the HH daily on 3 toons. I got the helm a combined total of about 8 times -- and only 1 Squashling, on the one toon I don't actually care about the ach on.
:(
评论来自
fran13r
i just need the helm, and i got today my 2nd drop of the pet, this is truly a joke from blizzard, we're the ones who are paying... why cant we do something about it! -.-
评论来自
632858
Alright, now my chances on this are gone. I'm leaving due to vacation with the family. I hardly slept tonight, just so I could trick or treat a little more. But nope, still I am stuck with loads and loads of everything, except the helm!
Thanks Blizzard. Thanks a lot.
评论来自
TGFseb15
Not sure if the drop rates have been increased but today (1st day of Hallow's End) I got a helm from the Horseman's bag you get when you kill him in the Scarlet graveyard, and a pet from trick or treating. After that I completed
卡利姆多的糖果
and among a ton of toothpicks I got
another
helm and
another
pet.
评论来自
plymoc
Got this achievement on my hunter today. Went in, killed the Horseman, got my pumpkin, opened it...
Squashling and helm in the same pumpkin, along with some candy.
It was a good day.
Edit: On my priest, just got a helm, squashling, AND a broom (temporary, of course), all in the same pumpkin.
评论来自
nguyenhothanh
This achivement has become easier than ever! Both the pet and the Helm can now drop from the
Handful of Treats
. Which means: no more luck needed! Just visit the listed Candy Bucket locations and they
WILL
drop for you. During my journey for the Trick and Treats achivements, I get about 7 pets and 10 helms.
I also recommend not to buy these at the vendor and save the
candies/tokens
for
Feline Familiar
and
Little Wickerman
instead.
评论来自
880543
CONFIRMED : i just received the sinister squashling from a "handful of treats" i looted from the inns. One from Lordanel and one from The Exodar.
评论来自
selvin
Just wanted to throw it out there- for people like me who just needed the sinister squashling for their meta achievement- it's possible just buy the sinister squashling off the auction house from people who get it from their dungonfinder reward bags.
It was amusing to get a holloween achievement in January, but hey, I still finally got my pet (after three halloween events..)
评论来自
998972
Buying the Sinister Squashling from the AH (now that the BoP pets can be caged and sold) don't work,I just tried it.
评论来自
TALLARN
bought pet from auction house and the achievment tracker counts as completed step towards the achievment ,now trying to get helm
评论来自
Snicelis
Still you can get pet for 150
奶糖
and helm for 150
奶糖
. It's located outside your main city. Alliance - Dorothy. Horde - Chub.
You can get
奶糖
visiting Inn's and getting it from Pumpkins, and sure - doing Daily quests!
Have a good Hallow's End!
评论来自
1174167
As of 10/19/2013, it is possible to get a Hallowed Helm from a Handful of Treats and have it count towards the achievement.
评论来自
aaron22303
So, from what I've read, no one's answered the question of what the "real" criteria are for this achievement. Can you purchase the helm and pet and have it count, or do you have to either have them drop off the Headless Horseman or the bags of treats? That would be more useful, and so far I don't read anything definitive that's recent stating one way or the other. Anyone want to comment on that one, as it would be beneficial for all concerned. Thanks! :)
评论来自
Aamunkajo
If you want to get the achievement personal for several characters, you have to cage your existing squashlings before learning the pet. When I had 2/3, and used the looted sinister squashling (the one from the event; caged is another item), I did not get the achievement. When I removed all my sinister squashlings, the credit was attributed.
评论来自
bncmakesanb
New things for 2014.
2 new pets, spectral cats, the wickerman is now a toy, and items dropped in HHM are 540 ilvl.
The 2 new pets as well as the toy cost 150 treats each, but they shouldnt be that hard if you have alts. Im using two leveling toons to grab all the treats in Kalimdor, EK, outland and northrend. Then I will use a 90 to redo the ToTing. Bet ill get the pets and toy before the stupid mount drops.
评论来自
Aztecia
I can confirm if you loot the
邪恶的南瓜娃娃
on an alt, you can mail it to the toon you want the achievement on. As long as you mail it BEFORE learning it. You can't learn it, cage it, and pass it on. Loot and mail, learn it on the toon you want the achievement on, and it will give you credit for that part of the achievement. Just did it myself. :)
评论来自
Strangeling
So as of 10/21/2019 you can buy the sinister squashling off of the auction house, and just learn it to get the achievement.
评论来自
Healbilly
can anyone tell me if I need to buy the Sinister Calling through the npc to get the achiv? I bought one off the auction house and did not receive credit.
评论来自
KillerMoyashi13
I just tested this on a new account. You CANNOT buy the squashling from the AH to get credit for this achievement.
To clarify: I obtained a
Hallowed Helm
from the headless horseman. Then, I specifically purchased this version of
Sinister Squashling
from the AH.
Not the caged pet version.
Without learning the pet, I then tried the caged version to no avail. It seems that you must obtain this pet via spending 150
Tricky Treats
or a headless horseman drop.
评论来自
jodmos
Looted a Sinister Squashling from the treats you get at the candy buckets and did not get credit toward this achievement.
Edit - Apparently I needed to learn it with the character (Thanks to comments below). So doesn't work like the wolpertinger where you just need to obtain it.
评论来自
Takalihutye
For anyone still having issues, what I did to actually earn the achievement on an alt:
1. The Sinister Squashling MUST be earned from an epic-level Loot-filled Pumpkin or bought from the holiday vendors by your capital city - it CANNOT be bought in AH.
2. I boxed up all my current squashlings so I had ZERO in my Battle Pet stable.
3. I used the specific Squashling I looted from the HH to add the squashling to my stable again.
4. Earned the achievement.
评论来自
Nictas
You can get credit for the Hallowed Helm by just buying it from the vendor and refunding it immediately afterward.
评论来自
Ornixton
If you don't get condition
万圣节头盔
but you have it in your collection you can go to
查布
or
多萝西
.
Buy
万圣节头盔
for 150
奶糖
it's triggered system and you get achievement
邪恶的召唤
then sell back helm to receive 150
奶糖
and keep achievement.
评论来自
Idreamofcow
As of 10/23/2023, my achievement was bugged. I had looted the hallowed helm on one of my toons yet it did not show as completed - I was not having any luck looting another one. I desperately wanted to buy the toys and cosmetics before the event was over... well I found out you can buy the Hallowed Helm (hence activating the achievement), sell it back for a full refund, and then use your 150 candies to buy something else that you actually want!
评论来自
Lambz
2023 HOLIDAY REFRESH 10/27/2023 PATCH 10.1.7
Obtained
无头骑士的缰绳
today from
塞满战利品的南瓜
on my 2nd alt of the day. I randomly logged on my alt to do Korthia rares and I decided to do the dungeon to waste some time while waiting for a spawn and it dropped. I used all the buffs provided by the Wicker-Men. I also unfortunately got hit by something so I had stacks of Wicker Man's Shadow. I don't know for sure if this proves it doesn't just count on your first character of the day, but from my own experience it most likely does. This was also my first ever time doing this event, despite having my account and playing since 2014.
Things I have learned about this mount:
1) You
must
be at least level 60 (as of 2023 patch 10.1.7) or you will be given the blue equivalent item...
装满战利品的南瓜
this
DOES NOT
drop the mount.
2) The mount can drop on any of your alts.
3) There is an increased drop rate to your first character of the day, and that increases when you get the curses by all four Wicker-Men.
4) The large Wicker-Men in the middle of the 5 in total, will provide you with all 4 curses, so no need to click each Wicker-Men separately.
5) it is best to get each buff before the encounter starts even on your alts, it still seems to increase your chances of obtaining the mount.
6) Something people are confused about is the de-buff stacks you get if you get hit by anything (if you don't do the mechanics correctly). If you get hit, you get a stack of a de-buff called
柳魔人之影
. This will apply a de-buff that lowers your health substantially every other time you get hit. This de-buff only gets applied up to 10 stacks. At 10 stacks all your curses get removed (if you haven't already died). Even if you get hit during the fight, as long as you do not die and do not get 10 stacks of the de-buff (removing all your curses) you are still eligible to receive the mount and from my understanding you still get a buffed drop chance from the curses.
Small note for people trying to get
邪恶的召唤
:
You can easily get this by running the dungeon encounter on a under leveled alt (preferably level 50-55) and guaranteeing a
装满战利品的南瓜
.
Your chances of getting the helm are increased by getting the curse buffs, and instead of having the horseman on the loot table as the rarest item, its the helm. This doesn't increase the chances by a lot, but it removes some of the other options you can get from the loot table.
***I also learned that in order to get the achievement checked off, you need to learn both of the items on the character, meaning if you have 3/3 of the pets, you need to release one of them, then learn it on the character. This means that the achievement is written wrong. The use of the word "obtain" in the achievement does not mean it needs to be in your bags, it needs to be learned (I think this is just something they never fixed in the writing). I have a suspicion that you may be able to buy the helm with tricky treats, instead of "obtain(ing)" it, since I don't think the game can check if you obtained a transmog item through an event once you learn it.
Hope all of this helped any of you! Happy hunting!
链接
邪恶的召唤
在万圣节期间通过拾取或者用奶糖购买获得一只邪恶的南瓜娃娃宠物和一顶万圣节头盔。
达成条件
邪恶的南瓜娃娃
(
1
)
万圣节头盔
(
1
)
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