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评论来自 257289

Didn't stand a chance....at getting this achievement.

This would still be hard even if you only had to hit 20 people.

评论来自 jaxsonbateman

It's a bit dodgy, but the best way to do this achievement is to have one of your friends (or yourself if you have a second account) log onto an ally toon and play the suicidal mounter 20 times.

If it's like Sickly Gazelle in AV (and I'd imagine it is, given that the text doesn't mention killing blows), then you likely only need credit for the HK by being in proxy or assisting in the kill. As such, it will likely be possible for a group of people to get this achievement done at the same time, and will also likely be possible to get done even if some people 'out of the loop' assist in killing the patsy.

评论来自 Vereess

Im playing on server where my enemies always have TANACITY BUFF.
All running with 60k+ HP.

Imagine how hard it is to kill them and how you want me to keep them mounted for all that time i will be shooting ;)

One more achievement i think is only doable if you have friend on other side :(

评论来自 Draconax

This achievement seems incredibly difficult. I've done probably 40 or 50 wintergrasp battles, mostly on defense, and I have yet to get a single kill towards this achievement, despite the fact I spend most of the defending fights in a cannon.

评论来自 Arathanar

The new Sickly Gazelle.

评论来自 Whacko

A tip is when you're on defense and they're pushing towards the keep:

Take one of the cannons (on workshop sides inside wintergrasp fortress) and turn it around so you can shoot through the hole into the 'combat' area. Makes for both a good deal of hk's, good way to help defend the keep and ccasionnaly you get a kill on somebody on a mount who was low on hp as they come through. Might help you with this little achievement. But yes, not one of the easy achievements to say the least.

评论来自 21278

This achievement is very difficult. After over 300 games I only have 15/20. The cannons take way too many hits to kill a mounted rider. One time a person was AFK and using two cannons, it still took many hits to kill him (for no credit).

评论来自 Malvenue

I have 99 wins in WG and 2 kills of mounted players using the cannon.

Stupid achievement IMO.

评论来自 256853

just done it! maybe its worlds first or something...everyone kept saying its undoable - i wont ever bother etc etc.

just for the statistics i have 69 wins for the other ach and i ve been tryin this one since my first wg whenever we were defending(usually not even bothering joining when we were attacking). so u can estimate how much time u need to get it

评论来自 242985

As of 3.1, you can no longer turn the cannons in to the center of the courtyard, making this that much harder.

Hope you don't have too many games with tenacity.

评论来自 19920

This achievement have pure hate written over it. On my server horde never goes under 10 tenacity so it's neigh impossible to get as alliance.

I'm starting to think we are supposed to become friends with the horde then ask them to stand still while we nuke away.

评论来自 370244

I have done this acheivement. I completed it after around 95 victorys. The key to getting the 20 kills is sitting on one of the 2 main cannons inside the keep and waiting...Dont worry you will get your 10 kills and 3 sieges once they smash thru the side door or the northern east or west walls. Then just fire away into the crowds until your cannons goes down. In some games you might be lucky to get 3 mounted kills in others you will get none.

评论来自 Neryssa

The easiest way is to try to make a deal with someone from the other faction also wanting this achievement to change kills. Refrain from posting that on your realm forums though, since 1) People might be jerks and simply screw you both for the heck of it, and 2) If you don't word it right you might get banned for "win-trading".

评论来自 124958

I have found (Possibly unconfirmed) that you don't actually need to land the killing blow on an enemy while they're mounted using a Tower Cannon.

I received honorable kills while using one of the inner-Tower Cannons, and a small number of those honorable kills went towards my kill count on this achievement. Because the enemy mostly goes through the central area of Wintergrasp Fortress, that means you're always out of sight of them, so its likely they will not attack the Cannons.

评论来自 436938

this must have been nerfed of patch 3.2, going from roughly 1 kill in 2 games on avarage pre 3.2. And after 3.2 i got 10 kills in 1 round, wouldn't say this one is that hard anymore...

评论来自 157913

As of 3.2, I can confirm that you don't need to get the killing blow. It just needs to be an honorable kill while you're in a tower cannon. You don't even need to damage them with it. This hardly makes it trivial, but it's now within the realm of possibility. Just stake out a cannon from the beginning of a battle when you're on defense and hope for the best. (Helping out too of course.)

评论来自 Galdar

After only 2 wintergrasp defends, I have 8/20 kills for this achievement using this strategy:

Grab the tower cannon inside the keep in front of the eastern vehicle shop. There are two to choose from, I used the southern cannon.

I then spent the entire match just shooting over our walls where I thought the alliance would be clustered most. I noticed I got some credit towards the achievement even when I didn't see any damage popping up. Sometimes it seems like you are just shooting in the air and doing absolutely nothing, but it does work.

If you try to do this achievement from a cannon on the outside walls, your cannon gets killed so fast you can't accomplish anything.

I got 2 kills on the first match, figured out the best spot to aim, refined it a bit and got 6 kills in the 2nd match. There is a bit of luck involved, but by far the best strat so far.

评论来自 syphadiaz

Galdar is right

From ready all the above comments I started to worry a little. I play a Human Warrior btw.
I was waiting for a turret to spawn in WG keep and I thought id read up on this achv.
Going off what Galdar posted I decided that I'd stay on an internal turret and shoot above the walls and hope for the best.

Seeing as you dont need the Killing Blow I figured this might be fairly easy. So I chose to sit in the eastern side turret inside the front courtyard. I aimed the turret as high up as it could go and shot straight forwards over our front keep gate.
From 1 WG Defense I got 5/20 for this achv which seems to be alot more than some others here. Once the horde broke into the front courtyard I retreated into a turret to the left of the Eastern Fortress Workshop and continued to shoot over the walls at where i assumed Horde would be.

The only thing that makes this achv hard is that the kills have to come from Mounted Players and i dont know about you but i dont stay mounted for very long in any situation.

Syphadiaz, Human Warrior. Gorgonnash.

评论来自 DeathBlood

Very easy achievement imo, just finished it today and I only have 23 WG wins. My record is 8 kills in one successful defensive battle, then 4 in the very next one to get the achievement.

Like others have said:
1) You only need the HK now, so it's much easier than the what people originally said.
2) The outer cannons get destroyed quickly, so grab one of those tower cannons in the middle of the keep. The inner two are great, I get at least 1-3 HK's every battle I can stay in one of them until the end.

Things nobody else has mentioned:
1) Use the Dalaran portal to Wintergrasp before the battle begins! If you're already standing next to your ideal cannon when the battle starts, you can just jump in as soon as it appears!
2) If someone's attacking your cannon, jump out and kill them! Staying in a cannon 5-10 seconds longer, hoping for an HK, is useless if you can kill the enemy and then reclaim your cannon.
3) Help your teammates get the achievement! If someone else grabs your cannon, if you jump out to kill an enemy, don't worry about it! Remember that the sooner they get the achievement, the sooner they'll stop caring about getting in the cannons themselves, making it easier for you.
4) Use your map to show enemy siege approaching the keep, and concentrate on killing those. The more damage you do to siege vehicles with the cannon, the more your teammates can focus on killing mounted enemy players.

Good luck getting your 20 HK's!

评论来自 GstyleOwns

After some reading about this achievement I tried some different ways to get the kills. I think this is a boring, but very profitable way.

If your faction is defending, get to Wintergrasp before it actually starts, to make sure you got the correct cannon (as told in other posts.)
Take a look at this screenshot:

http://i45.tinypic.com/wageoj.jpg

This is the right cannon in the middle keep.

Aim your cannon the same way as shown on the screenshot. It will go past the other cannon and land of the ground close to the main gate.

From now on, just spam the only attack avaible (1). I know this is very very boring, but it granted me 5+ kills in every battle so far.

Make sure you protect your cannon when it is under attack.

评论来自 219762

Doing exactly what was said above grants me 1 credit every 2 defending in average.Slow but better than nothing

评论来自 Bigbadburks

Or you could just be awesome like me and ask your opposing faction to stand still on their mount so you can kill them 20 times (for a sum of gold of course.)

100g got me this achievement :P.

评论来自 469227

Does anyone know if this achievement can be done on offense? ergo, using the cannons off the towers in the south? Have tried this m'self and unfortunately haven't seen very many people mounted on the inbound... (vehicles, yes. mounts, no.)

评论来自 422399

Despite what you read above this achievement is heavily server dependent. I have come to the conclusion that it impossible to achieve on my server (without buying it). I have more than 100 WG victories to my name and this is the one thing I am missing.

(1) You may now only need to get the HK but the *person still needs to die on their mount.* Merely wounding them to die later doesn't count.

(2) The average tenacity of my server of the opposite faction is 8. It's not unusual to see players with 500K hit points. That person is not dying on their mount. Period.

With more than 100 victories to my credit, trying everything I read here and else where, dedicating at least 20 matches to getting this achievement alone, I have exactly one...yes one..kill towards this achievement.

评论来自 jahf

I'm getting close to being done with the Master of WG meta ... so for the last 10 fights I've been focusing on this achievement. 8 kills so far. Total. Hooooorrrrrible achievement.

评论来自 HarunShahab

My server is completely Alliance dominant so i have to grab a cannon on a tower because the alliace is usually destroying then out there :/.

评论来自 sawier

found dude with other faction alt, paid him 20g per kill :)

评论来自 705831

This achievement IS completable while your team is on offense. There are multiple cannons in all three of the southern towers that you can use.

评论来自 Ocyla

I really don't see how this was possible before the balancing, and is probably not even remotely possible now. On my server our WG battles sometimes only have 5 players per side due to low horde participation, so shooting a single PLAYER much less someone who might be on a mount, there's next to no chance. I'd need to rig it and pay someone, repeatedly.

评论来自 55524

Simply getting the hk has never been enough; I've gotten thousands of HK's while in a turret in Wintergrasp, including on mounted players.

Still only at 4 of 20.

Also, as of 12/22/2010, you apparently can only kill the same person twice. I just killed my alt, on his mount, 10 times, only got credit for 2 of them (numbers 3 and 4 of my current chiev progress for this one).

评论来自 Kytsos

Guess that counts for any kind of level as long that player is mounted ? Like lvl80 or sth ?

评论来自 585478

Considering the redic high HP of everyone now in comparison to the damage done by a turret, I might pay a guildie to let me blow up his ally alts for a while to try to get this.

评论来自 Splode

Does anyone know if this can be done outside of the battle? Given there is a limit on the level of players entering the wintergrasp battle, it's hard to organise on a extremely horde heavy realm.

评论来自 129446

Managed to do this by repeatadly killing my opposite faction rogue on 2nd account over and over, while sitting in the most northwestern cannon in the keep.

Took off all her gear, which gave her 41k hp and just kept ressing, running back and standing in the same spot on my mount, while I swapped clients and killed her off with my main. The cannons hit for about 9.5k a pop, so 5 shots was enough to kill. WG is always allance controlled on my realm and I never ever see any horde there, so this was pretty much the only way for me to get this achievement completed.

Took me 2 games to get the 20 kills needed, as we pretty much always destroy the 3 towers and cut the timer right away.

You DO get credit towards both Didn't Stand a Chance and Vehicular Gnomeslaughter, even if the player you are killing has the Recently Slain debuff, you just don't get WG ranks from it.

评论来自 1017969

s horde, this achievement is easier to complete when you're the attacking team. Use one of the three towers in the south. Everyone in your party who's in a nearby tower cannon will get credit. The target has to be mounted.

Easiest way of course, is arranging a naked suicidal mounted alliance character. Night elf is preferred, because of the quick wisp form when dead.

(July 29th 2012, horde)

评论来自 skyline33

How is this doable in Recent times?
Update:
Making a level 1 on a trial account works. Managed to get them all the way to Wintergrasp, mount them on the Chauffer mount (useable at any level), and fire away on the cannons on your main.
<b>Downside</b> only get credit while a match is in progress, unlike the towers kills which are also doable with a level 1

评论来自 Bathrezz

If you were a player in WOLK like myself and got every achieve except this one because you needed the KB and they changed it too late... there is light. I don't know why I didn't think of it earlier, maybe I was ceebs and was doing other achieve but I have found a way to solo this on one account.

Not everyone may have this but it’s the only solo way I have tested and proven to work.

You need a horde and an AC on the same account, same server preferably. For some reason the guns/turrets are no longer on the outside but on the inside of the garrison. If you use the front turrets there is one horizontal line in front of them, it is the closest the turrets can shoot and this is where you place your opposing faction char. Before you begin you want your shooting char in position up top next to a turret. Log onto your other char, make sure you’re in the right spot (one side has an NPC, the other is empty), you want to close your WoW browser (don't /camp or /quit) just close it, quickly reopen the game and log into your shooter. Because you closed your game the server you suffered a random DC and leave you like that for at least 20seconds in attempt to let you relog and not get kicked from a random group. This is the chance to log in and kill your alt (remember to be mounted). Rinse and repeat.

This will take a few games. You will not be able to get 20/20 from one match, if you get +5 then you did well. Try to utilize both chars aiming for the achieve

评论来自 Triet

You can solo this achievement with a class trial while your main's faction controls Wintergrasp. (I mean the actual zone, not the epic battleground.)

Take your alt in range of the cannon while mounted, press alt + F4, then quickly open a new client to log onto your main and shoot it to death.

If you want to do this "legit," then join a real battle for Wintergrasp (the epic BG this time) and have your friends CC mounted players so you can kill them before they can dismount. If you're solo, wait until the end of a game you are winning on defense. Look for people on the enemy team who AFK on mounts near the keep, which is usually what happens if they haven't even penetrated the outer wall. XD

Note: A game must be in progress to get credit.

评论来自 Ajfree

This can be done with a second starter account, no sub needed. Fly them using a 2 person mount (Sandstone drake) to Northrend. Use either the boat from SW or the zeppelin from Org. Then kill them with a cannon during the battle. The high level account's faction must control the base.

评论来自 Yufimia

For 9.2.5.
My friend and I decided to help each other to make this achievement.
The problem with this achievement is the time penalty for character resurrection.
One battle lasts 30 minutes. Resurrection penalty time for one character: 1 ress - 0s, 2 - 28s, 3 - 58s, 4 - 2m, 5 - 2m+
If you help your friend by playing only one character, then for the entire battle, taking into account the resurrection penalties, you can score 15-16/20 for one full battle.

So I decided to create a Trial Class Warlock (Create a new character > in the right corner check the box "Class Trial").
The feature of the warlock is that the 灵魂石 ignores the resurrection penalty, although it is considered "death" in an increasing time penalty.
7 minutes for training quests and you find yourself in your capital city with a 50lvl Warlock.
I flew to the mage tower in Stormwind (or to the portal hall in Orgrimmar). My main character has already completed the portal quest to Dalaran. So, maybe you need to do a quest for it.
Using the portal to Dalaran, I flew to the border between Icecrown Citadel and Wintergrasp (Icecrown - 50.95), landed on one of the spiers on the cliff, used the 灵魂石 and went offline.
The trick is that being offline, the buff time does not change. But the cooldown time changes. So, later, when you go online with this character, you will have a 15 minute buff and the ability to immediately use this skill again. 1.5 penalty-ignoring resurrections.

In general, I would advise to rotate two or three warlocks with a pre-saved resurrection buff. Because the penalty on each character starts at 0s, not 2min+.

So... Your friend can take any cannon on the balconies on the right side.
It is better to kill your Warlock on the right side, near the tree 62.32. Sunken Ring Graveyard side.
This is the closest place in terms of running speed from the graveyard.
! When landing under a tree, it's best to immediately use a non-flying mount, because at the most inopportune moment, you can be thrown off your flying mount, even if you are on the ground.
Disable all addons, they are not needed on these temporary characters. But it will speed up the loading time.

On your warlock, use one pre-saved resurrection. Cast the second on yourself somewhere after the 3rd resurrection. Change to another warlock.
(I'm a nerd, so I created 5 warlocks. But this is too hardcore "make two achievements in one fight" option).

By the way, 觉醒火盆 doesn't work here.

Anyway, in the case of 2-3 warlocks, you will make an achievement for one person. If you approach this issue in a hardcore way, with 5 warlocks, it takes about 13-14 minutes for one full achievement.
While the battle lasts 30 minutes, this leaves 1-2 minutes in reserve, and with completed achievements for you and your assistant.

Perhaps some of this wall of text will be useful in part or in full.

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