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评论来自 Thirteenera

Some of these drop from any mobs, while others drop from a specific one. Most have a daily "chance" to loot, such as ones dropped by rares. A couple are found on the ground (and dont require killing mobs to obtain).

Each of them will start a quest that you turn in to Ven'ari, providing some amount of rep (~150 or so).

评论来自 Goldschakal

Seems like you can only loot 1 daily unless it comes from a specific mob.

评论来自 Thirteenera

I used to get 1-2 items per day, on a consistent basis. However since getting Ambivalent some days ago, i've not received a single item. Im missing a bunch of "common" ones that should be easy to get, and yet none drop. Not sure if bug or just really, really, really bad luck

EDIT: Seems to be fixed now!

评论来自 Rusteeze

I've been able to farm all but 4 of these items which has helped me get 6200 rep into cordial, including finding the guaranteed spawn location of several of the items
Tormentors Notes (35.77 45.55)
Tormentors Box (72.59 17.62)
Wailing Coin (Odalrik)
Warsworn Orders (Cyrixia)
Words of the Warden (19.37 33.42)
Korrath's Grimoire:Aleketh (Dath Rezara).

Each of these items rewards 100-150rep with Ve Nari so if you focus each of these items it can really help you unlock the beast warrens early in order to be ready for the mount chances.

All of the others I've received are from just random kills of mobs in the maw or elites. I also have a route I take everyday to get around 1500 rep including daily hand ins. It does help I'm human but getting the Dark Moon Faire buff this week also is a massive advantage.

I made a full guide of the route I take, tips & tricks so I really hope it helps you unlock the ranks you need! Torghast especially is much much easier with all of the buffs from Ve Nari.

Let me know if you've got anything extra to add as well, it would be great to start a detailed thread for rep grind with ve nari so we can get those sockets early!

Full Video Guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YgFcwKcEmo&t=78s&ab_channel=Rusteeze

评论来自 bigpasi

Some of these items are guaranteed, they drop only from specific interactable items around the maw. Said items are:
Tormentor's Notes - /way 35.74, 45.57 on night elf body
Words Of The Warden - /way 19.37 33.42 paper scrap
Box of Torments - /way 27,7, 20,2 cave entrance /way 72,6, 17,4 Torture Implements

The guaranteed items grant 150 rep each for Ve'nari.

Info on these has been taken from other wowhead comments on said items.

Rest of the items should drop from mobs around the maw, some from only specific rare/regular mobs.

评论来自 Svandir

Currently impossible to complete due to the Shade hound armor plating not dropping from anything or being found anywhere. Until blizz fixes this, don't worry too much about it

评论来自 PayneAS

Fixed an issue that prevented Shadehound Armor Plating from being acquired in the Maw. The quest item can now be found by completing the Hunt: Shadehounds event.

January 25th patch now allows this achievement to be completable!

评论来自 JeackTL

Fixed on 1/25/2020: 影犬装甲镀层 now drops from 肿胀的影犬 (Maw Hunt boss)

评论来自 udovar575

So this achievement is another RNG fest. I have been missing the "Puzzling Cryptogram" for about 4 or 5 weeks now and it is classified as one of these common items that can drops from anywhere in the zone. I heard that the highest chance of drop is from the assassins that chase you once you reach Eye of the Jailed level 3. So far i have been going to the Maw every single day and killing a bunch of rares and a bunch of assassins but this item doesn't want to drop.

Many people i spoken to told me that they received these "common" items from the 1st assassin kill of the day but i saw one comment on the "Puzzling Cryptogram" page from some dude, he claims he got it of the 72nd assassin kill (he was farming the assassins). But when i asked him in a reply if he got it on the 72nd assassin kill that particular day or the next day (1st kill of the next day) he didn't reply and i have no confirmation if this can be farmed.

Long story short, i just need CONFIRMATION that this can drop of the assassins even after hundreds of kills on that SAME DAY so i can finally farm them and be done with this RNG fest. Without the confirmation i feel like i am just wasting my goddamn time. This is the last "exploration" achievement i am missing in the game and it is frustrating, nobody likes to go to the Maw and here i am destined to walk the Maw for the next hundred years.

EDIT: On 4/24/2021 after so many months i got the "Puzzling Cryptogram" from a rare "Conjured Death" i don't usually kill in my daily rotation. Not going to the Maw ever again.

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

评论来自 IceRise

星筹手稿, 渊誓巡逻地图, 混沌符文, 古旧的奥伯勒隆铭文, 影缚证言, 被丢弃的折磨计划, 流变密码, 淞心飞行路线图, 惑心密码, 灵魂熔炉图纸 - from all enemies in the Maw with a small chance.
狱卒之语 - little page on the altar (/way 19.36 33.40)
科拉斯的魔典：贝利迪尔, 科拉斯的魔典：基亚德雷克, 科拉斯的魔典：阿勒科斯 - from 艾克索斯，统御先驱 (/way 20.66 69.08), 达斯·雷扎拉 (/way 18.94 57.25), 织影者泽利斯 (/way 32.86 66.50)
拷问者的笔记 - from dead elf's body (/way 35,70 45,51)
看不懂的地图 - from all enemies in the Maw with a small chance. The biggest chance from 渊誓狱卒
哀嚎金币 - from 欧达力克 (/way 38.49 28.74)
温西尔协议 - from all enemies in the Maw with a small chance. The biggest chance from 流变的噬命者
折磨之盒 - from the chest in the cave with 格拉萨拉克斯. Cave enter- /way 27.92 20.41
影犬装甲镀层 - from 肿胀的影犬 - The Hunt with hounds
渊誓镣铐 - from 渊誓禁锢者
渊誓指令 - from 西丽克莎 (/way 29.76 23.91)

Sorry for my English, can have some mistakes

评论来自 Lilyoptra

While doing 结界真言, is a good time to kill the rares in Perdition Hold, as you can stealth by most of the mobs in the area, check to see what rares are up and position for the best shot of pulling without adds. Got my last items (the Grimoires) this way.

评论来自 Belsabu

Since you kill the Eye of the Jailer on 9.1. How can you obtain Venthyr Concordat? It's supposed to be dropped from Assassins.

评论来自 Melandroso

After 9.1, the rares that drop the items can be inaccessible due to the assaults. That blows.

评论来自 Vezon64

When it comes to the different Korrath Grimoires, can you kill the same rare mob over and over to get them all, or do you need to kill the different mobs to get the drops individually?

Like if I killed Dath Rezara and Shadeweaver Zeris for the first two grimoires, do I need to kill Exos, Herald of Domination for the last one, or could I simply go for Dath over and over?

评论来自 Isaacr

For those of you who are worried if you can still get the Venthyr Concordat. You actually can without killing assassins, I was on my Alt Demon Hunter going to do the Necrolord assault and i happened to come across that snake looking rare those floats in the air and when i killed him he dropped the Venthyr Concordat quest for me which i really wanted it on my Monk instead. So you can still get it without having someone have Eye of the jailer.

评论来自 Reputedg

Missing one of the common drops here - chaotic runes, anyone have a suggestion how to farm it?

Particular mob we can farm aoe down quickly? Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

评论来自 DIODEH

I've lost myself farming for my last item 温西尔协议.
After months spent looking for it, today my search is done. I'm free.
To all the people struggling out there I've something to say: despite I have often farmed for hours on the same day, I got the item on my FIRST KILL OF THE DAY . I hope I helped someone, don't give up.

评论来自 Shamantastic

Does anyone know if the drop rates for this achievment are bugged? I killed 达斯·雷扎拉 ~300x and only got the 科拉斯的魔典：基亚德雷克 so far....no signs of the other 2 grimoires for now - thanks!

评论来自 Jaidalyn

So I started farming for these items recently and twice over the past week I have found an item in my mailbox. I have been making sure to loot every mob I kill in the maw so the first time I just said maybe I forgot to loot something. This second time however I went straight to finish an achievement for an assault and I know I looted every mob I killed. I suspect that I received the item in the mail after finishing the assault because it automatically loots the reward cache. It also so happens that while I don't remember if it was the same day or same time as finishing the previous assault that I got the first item in the mail, I did only do one other assault and I did only ever get one other item in the mail. So maybe doing an assault has a high chance of giving you one of the items. I still need one more though and if I don't get it before the next assault, I'll do it and let people know if it worked.

Edit: 3rd assault didn't give me the last item I needed.

评论来自 sedna1666

Yup, I can confirm it drops as "First Kill of the Day".

After Tuesday reset, I logged on and headed straight to the Maw, and killed a Mawsworn Blackguard.

He dropped Venthyr Concordat.

评论来自 Kurtosis

Is there any point to this achievement? No reward, and not part of some other meta-achievement with a cool reward either. Only gives 10 achievement points. Seems a lot of work and RNG for nothing.

评论来自 Brogash

You know what this is ridiculous, going through all my characters i have the last 2 that i need on several of them but not on the character that needs those last 2. I already felt back in shadowlands that why the hell isnt this account wide and now we are halfway through DF can you make it account wide already, please!

Edit: After having clearing the entire zone for days and days of rares including going on a killingspree on the assasins, probably killed hundreds i decided to paus for abit and at the very minimum kill 1 assasin each day since that whats been speculated here that they drop on the first kill and today that was indeed what happened to me got the constellan writ on the first kill of the assasin and the achievment finally done

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