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评论来自 Pwuebear

Seems terrible bugged and not rewarding progress half the time.

评论来自 dethkrik

"Treasures" is the key word here... Just opening100 chest isn't the objective, finding 100 "Treasures" is. Only time my achievement has moved is when I've looted an epic quality item.

EDIT: Got 5 Manapearls in 1 box, counted as 5 "Treasures".

评论来自 Sunabubus

I suggest to farm up some 深海珊瑚荚 before using one of these. It makes so much easier to ignore mobs that you might aggro. I'm trying to find out which is the best place to farm the treasures, so far it seems Kalmethir (just under the text) is very good. Opening chests can extend the duration of the 占卜石, and you quite often get buffed with the 奥术视野 buff so you can see the chests on your minimap. There is also a speed buff sometimes 炫目之风.

Note: If you're doing for the achievement 无卜可占, as of now (28/06) opening chests doesn't always grant credit for it. I would hold on to the stones for a couple of days.

04/07 Rejoice!

Revealing treasure chests while scrying in Nazjatar should now reliably grant credit for Nothing to Scry About.

评论来自 AcantiTheGreat

From what I've experienced, the achievement progress is almost certainly tied to looting the objects that you can buy from the murloc traders (such as 脏兮兮的鱼人袜子 or 非常普通的黄油). I've looted about 100 chests and only have 26/100 progress for the achievement, with all of those 26 having an item from the murloc traders inside them.

评论来自 TharenaVar

So after messing around and trying to figure out how this achievement actually gives credit, I noticed one thing: It gives credit when you uncover the chest, not when you loot it.
This leads me to believe that it actually only gives progress for unique chests uncovered, as in you have to uncover 100 different chests.

Currently sitting at 55/100 myself, and absolutely no idea which chests I've looted or not, I wish this was worded differently so I'd known to keep track of them.

评论来自 demonsfire813

I'm getting credit for 1 treasure each time I used a scrying stone. No matter how many I open, I only get credit for the 1st box per stone.

评论来自 Notoriousbird

You should hoard these stones and wait till you get flying if you want optimal efficiency when attempting this achievement.

If you do that, you can do the achievement using only 2-5 scrying stones.

I did it as a druid with flight form and was very easy to complete this way. Make sure you hover close to the ground so you can use your extra action button. Also a macro for extra action button use is recommended for this achievement. Bind it to a key that is easy to use.

/click ExtraActionButton1

A good place to start is at the Drowned Market, then proceed to the Coral Forest. Dragon's Teeth Basin also has a good density.

/way 77, 28 Drowned Market
/way 61.9, 51.7 Coral Forest
/way 46.2, 47.5 Dragon's teeth basin

You can pretty much search anywhere in the zone, most places have plenty of chests in close proximity to one another.

Keep an eye out for the 奥术视野 buff, which allows you to see chests on your minimap. Once you have this collecting becomes very easy (with flying).

There are plenty of areas with a high density of chests. Ensure you are opening as many Glimmering Chests as possible so you can keep refreshing the Scrying Stone buff. If you're lucky you can also get reputation items from these chests (150 rep tokens which are unique)

Edit: Blizzard implemented a hotfix which ensures that every chest counts towards your progress. Now is the time to finish this up.

Edit 2: 镍铜硬化马镫 removed from comment. Not as useful for other classes since they can't use extra action button when mounted. My apologies, wouldn't know since im a druid, heh.

Happy hunting!

评论来自 Snackelbeans

It's worth noting that since the hotfix that addressed issues with this achievement, the definition of "finding a treasure" seems to be revealing a chest with the extra action button. More importantly, this means that opening the chests is NOT necessary and you only need to reveal the chest to increase your progress. This makes it much quicker to move from chest to chest, especially if the one you revealed is in aggro range of a mob.

In situations where more than one chest is revealed with one press of the extra action button, progress will still only increase by one (implying progress is tied to the press of the button specifically).

评论来自 Sanguinezor

Don't forget to Track Treasures by right clicking on your minimap and choosing the "Find Treasure" option.

Getting the chests is a lot quicker when you get the True seeing buff from opening chests.
It is RNG, but you can easily get a bunch of chests in the 2mins that it is on you.
The buff can also be refreshed.

评论来自 psir

1. Gather at least 5 scrying stones
2. Fly to drowned market and fly close to the ground and use the extra action button.
3. Collect the chest, because opening chests gives you buffs. One of them gives you vision on the minimap where the other hidden chests are.

Remember that finding the chest is enough, no need to actually collect it. But you'll want the Arcane vision buff the chest gives.

评论来自 alpanhell

I think the majority of comments on here are outdated (there have been patches that changed the behavior). So I thought I'd give my experience:

1) I definitely did not see the kind of reward some ppl listing here (like 50 for one scrying stone). I don't know if they're lying or were flying druids (being able to open a chest while in a flight is a huge plus). But I had 7 占卜石 and got 51 count on the achieve. If you're not a flying druid you have to dismount to use the Scrying Stone and you have to dismount to open the chest.
2) It looked to me like every chest was counting. I also didn't see extras for the few times I found mana pearls, but honestly I wasn't watching my counter much.
3) The biggest annoyance was 沙堡 showing up randomly when you open a chest. You need him for the rare achieve, but once is enough. Sometimes I had him show up 3 chests in a row. So if you're aggro'd you have to stop and kill him.
4) Not sure flying was helpful. You go so fast you tend to have to backtrack to find the chest.
5) Not sure farming in Drowned Market was a plus either. A lot of mobs and multiple levels. So you could be on the ground and the chest could actually be on a roof. That was always an issue, having to actually find the chest once you pressed the action button.
6) The biggest thing you want to take advantage of is that occasionally when opening a chest you will get the buff 奥术视野. This gives you 2 mins of the chests showing up on your mini map. Try and use that to your advantage. It was amazing how many more chests would show up on the map than what there seemed to be normally, so not sure if the buff supplied extra chests. Most likely they're just hard to trigger.

评论来自 Doloria

Using the 占卜石:

Collect at least 2-3 占卜石s before you start.
Click on 1 占卜石 at a time. This generates the 占卜石 buff with a 5 minute timer shown in the upper right of the screen with other buffs.
Run around (or ride on the ground) until a 占卜石 appears in lower-mid screen. Stop. Click on the icon to spawn a chest. The mini-map will show a single yellow dot marking the location.
The blue chests are the same model as the arcane puzzle chests. They sparkle and they’re not hidden.

Sometimes you get the 奥术视野 buff which fills the mini map with yellow dots.

Each dot shows the location of a chest — with a catch. When you reach one of these dots, stop. You won’t see the chest, you’ll see the 占卜石 icon in lower-mid screen. Click on it to spawn the chest. Check the mini-map to confirm the exact location. Move quickly to the next dot.

Want to pick a good location?

ruthven78 suggests looking at the map for 微光宝箱.
(Drowned Market is one place with fewer mobs.)

What else?

Keep an eye on the time remaining on the 占卜石 buff. Sometimes the time will be extended when you open a chest.
Be prepared to stun/fear local trash. Bring mudwraps, totems, etc.
If you run out of 占卜石s, go kill a rare. 占卜石s are dropped by 59 rares. See the "Dropped by" list (scroll down). Out in the field, look for npc's with yellow stars, check the Nazjatar war board or find a group farming rares.

What's all this strange stuff I'm looting from the chests?

If you loot a green level 1 item with no apparent purpose, it can often be traded at your base with the murlocs. It will say it lasts less than 24 hours.
On 穆勒尔's home page see Dioxina's amazing table (scroll down) showing items that can be swapped with murlocs. Many items require multiple trades with different murlocs. A few items can be purchased for coin.
To see 穆勒尔's hidden wares, buy and wear the 艾萨亚雷风暴涌流者斗篷 during your transaction.

评论来自 Maxiusthegnome

So...."Good news everyone!" (I betcha you read that in someone's else voice)…

As of last night I can confirm a few tactics that just worked for me and I went from 22/100 to 78/100 in a few short period of time using only 2 stones. Here's what I'd like to share that really helped me and hopefully you all:

- I discovered that moving to fast, even mounted while on the ground, I wasn't getting the Scry button. I saw it more often when I walked and stop ever 10 yards or so.

- Yes you get an immediate credit for initially finding so its not required to open them. Here's my strategy though, keeping opening until you get the mini-map buff which then shows you all the Hidden Treasures with yellow dots. Then just scry and move to the ones close by w/o opening so you save the mini-map buff timer which is very short. You can always go back and open, I did it and then got the buffs again!

- I believe when you have the mini-map buff up, you get a very brief boost of ground speed which allows you to go to another spot fast. For me it seemed like that was case but I'm not 100%...it's perfect though as it allows you to get more faster.

- Ok, so here's my BIG REVEAL...are you ready?...I was able to re-scry the very same chests that I just open using the same 5 minute scry timer! That's right, you read it here first! So using those coordinates below...I went back to the very same locations and BOOM, scry button popped and then a chest. Even better...I GOT CREDIT FOR SCRYING THE SAME LOCATIONS! Wow, how much better can this get, right? That' how I got so many in such a short timer. Now that I'm familiar with about 15-20 spots visually (now the mini-map buff is no longer relevant), I'm going to finish this one next time I get around to it.

- Find locations w/o so many mobs. I eventually settled in the southern area in the Coral Forest. There's a waterfall that begins a tiny pond/lake which is where I'd suggest you start because there are TONS are hidden treasures in a really defined space w/o many mobs. There are maybe 2-6 Naga which I suggest killing so as to not waste you precious 5 minute timer!

- Like stated above, go to the Hanging/Coral Reef area and start at 54:54 and make you way slowly in an "smile" path to 64:52. There are enough here for you to get all 100 in a short period of time.

- Areas like the Drowned Market while maybe having a lot of Hidden Treasures, there are soooo many mobs that I spent more time killing then scrying. Those non-controllable followers don't help when they pull aggro.

- Lastly, sometimes when you successfully scry, the rare Sandcastle will spawn, nice surprise.

I hope this helps you all!

评论来自 drLeend

This is nice to do while you have buff from N'lyeth, Sliver of N'Zoth active, since mobs don't attack you, so you can reveal chests in peace (unless you have alot of players around).

评论来自 lambd1

This is now the final thing I need for 海底篡位者 and the 劈背凿孔蟹, but I'm having major difficulty with this. I have used three stones so far, but only have 21 chests (average of 7 per stone). I have five more stones saved up, but I'm trying to fix my problems before I waste them on a poor showing. Some have said you can get all 100 chests using only five stones, suggesting that an average of 20 chests per stone is reasonable. Others have flat out said that 10-15 chests per stone is well within reach. I need to up my game... seven per stone is not making me happy. I feel like I am underperforming, and these stones are not easy to get. If I can just double my performance, to 14 chests per stone, then after the five I've got now I should be at 91 total chests. Any advice for me?

评论来自 Zapletek

Just completed it today ( june 2020 ). It doesn't matter how many items you loot from chest. As you click the extra button, chest appear, then achiv counts it as a one ( you don't even have to open chest ). Took me around 15 minutes, i've used 3 Scrying Stones, i've got around 600 golds from the items i sold after completing achiv.

评论来自 Aveenex

Completed it today with my 4th 占卜石. Beside what is written in comments I can add:
Voice in The Deeps and its buff Silencer is actually very, very useful.
I started in Zin-Azshari, through Kalmethir and then in direction of Newhome, west of The Drowned Market.

I got 67 chests in one day with 2 stones, basically becasue of RNG. It is 100% worth it to open chests because of buff duration refreshment.
With my first 3 stones I did not get a buff refresh even one time that's why i got like 10-15 chests per stone. But once you get rolling with buff refresh you open like crazy. If you have low ilvl (470-) it is not worth to fight 沙堡 after your first daily kill, if you see him spawn second+ time, just run away and lose aggro.
For 67 chests opened, 沙堡 spawned 6 times.
That's basically it, you just need to get lucky to get buff timer refresh or have ton of 占卜石.

PS. There are no magical 占卜石 vendors.. those only drop from rares or 穆勒尔 boxes.
Once you use one stone wait for about 5-10 minutes before next, to let all the chests respawn.

评论来自 Currently

This achievement took me 3.5 stones (finished with about 3 minutes remaining on my fourth one.) I did this on a Druid with flying, which made it very easy.

评论来自 YBerion

Everybody here talking about how far apart the chests are from one another, and how they spent 10 or 20 stones to get a few chests. I've obliterated all the rares of the map for 10 days in a row and got exactly 1 (one) stone. How am I supposed to do this without them? I managed to get 50 chests with just that one stone with the chest waypoints, but I can't try again because the %$&! stones won't drop no matter how.

评论来自 hasore

Despite the fact that obtaining 占卜石 from rares on Nazjatar would be the worst part of 无卜可占, getting that achievement is not that absurd grind.
I was stuck at 41 chests for 2 years, used more than 10 stones to get these chests and did it on Azshara raid patch, which led to a fair share of time wasted dealing with mobs.
As patch 9.2.5, level 60 priest, with 2 stones and a progress of 41 chests, tried to do it again, killed 20 rares to try to get more stones, and as previous stated in other comments, it was useless, then i got 2 more stones, one from 微微嗡鸣的海石, sold by 穆勒尔 and other from a rare of the weekly quest 马蒂瓦斯的实验室 of Mardivas Laboratory.
Managed to collect 59 chests, starting from Haven (bad place...) using 3 stones (~18 minutes of buff) and now, after 3 years (first achievement of Usurper), i finally own the 劈背凿孔蟹.

What i recommend:
- Use TomTom, Paste and the coordinates available at 微光宝箱.
- Create a macro for the Extra Action Button and move it to an action bar.
- Have flying unlocked at Nazjatar or someone with it and a mount to help.
- Be level 60 (reduced detection from level 50 mobs).
- Use items to further reduce detection.
- Have at least 6 Scrying Stones.
- Use either a Druid(able to collect on flight form), Priest (soothe mobs) or a Hunter/Rogue (drop combat).
- If you plan to use other classes, be geared in order to quickly deal with mobs that you unfortunaly aggro.
- In order to get the Scrying Stones, don't waste you time with rares, get them from Mrrl when available and weekly Mardivas rare, use that time for something else in game.

评论来自 bearistic

As of this comment, almost positive scry stones can no longer drop. I have done over 300+ loot chances and not had a single one drop. I do believe this is currently bugged and no one can earn this achievement unless you had stones already.

Reported to blizzard, but PLEASE make a bug report. The more we submit, the faster this can get fixed. Again.

Thank you.

EDIT: Since reporting this as a bug and waiting a few days, these have been dropping again. Again I killed roughly 200 rares with no drops. Reported bug, took a few days break, Another 100 killed (mix of wm on/off) and have gotten 4 or so to drop. Maybe just the most insane RNG in wow history, but these are dropping again. Still kinda low drop rate, but should drop 1 for every 25-50 rare kills.

评论来自 bomigabster

There's a very helpful list of coords on the 占卜石 page,

评论来自 xanthax

I've been working on this achievement for the past few days. If you're working on the meta achievement, don't chase this one, it'll come to you. There are some super slow achievements that you'll have to do like Periodic Destruction and Aqua Team Murder Force that will keep you coming back and killing things to get scrying stones. These achievements take weeks to complete. Just gather the stones you get over time. By the time I was done with Aqua Team Murder Force, I had 11 Scrying Stones. Here are my tips:

-Kill rares. I believe they all have a chance to drop scrying stones. Some of them are always up like Voice in the Deeps, Oronu, Avarius, and the water elements in the middle of the map. You just have to know how to spawn them. There are a few that are also always up but are off the beaten path like Chasm-Haunter, Blindlight, and Needle Spine. There are also some that require items that drop frequently like the Carniverous Lasher and Vor'Koth. When I was doing the follower dailies, I swept the map for rares.

-The chests themselves are hidden and a button will pop up when one is near you. Pressing the button will pop off an arcane explosion effect that has a way wider radius. The chest's location, if you can't find it, will be marked on your mini-map.

-Go to the Kal'Methir, Drowned Market, and Zin-Azshari areas to get chests. There are tons out there. I'd avoid the south end of the zone as Wekemara will zap you from super far away and interrupt scrying/opening chests if that quest/boss is up.

-There is a small chance when you open up a chest you'll get a buff that'll show you where other chests are on your mini-map. This is the promised land. If this happens, you can get a lot of chests when using a scrying stone. The arcane buff will outlast the scrying stone buff, so if you're using them back to back, keep that in mind.

-When using the stone's ability, you can spawn a rare called Sandcastle. This rare can drop a pet. After killing the rare, I would finish using the stone you're on and stop for the day and pick it up again another day with other stones that way you have multiple attempts at the pet. You can spawn him multiple times a day, but I don't think you can get loot off him but once a day. Others can see Sandcastle if you wanna call it out in general.

-If you don't get the arcane buff, the best way I've found to find chests is to look in buildings, around big statues, and near the waterways. The chests respawn every few hours too. I figured I'd have to find a different part of the zone after almost clearing out Kal'Methir a day earlier, but found all the chests had respawned while flying over to go through another part of the zone.

-Technically, you don't have the loot the chest to get credit towards the achievement. You just need to spawn it. There is a pet in the chest, however, that is only available there.

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在纳沙塔尔使用占卜石找到100个宝藏。

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