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评论来自 varenne

Wait for 失控 world quest to popup.
This world quest is located in Nazmir on the north-east coast, right behind the huge tuttle in Torga's Rest

20 seconds timers starts the moment you use Extra action button 命运之手卷轴
After you cast the extra action button you become 命运之手 and have 3 spells

You need to kill 40 mobs in the area in 20 secons now.
Use only 2nd spell - it is the main damaging ability

It's Really Getting Out of Hand achievement demo video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiz_kInYePc

Hint: You have time to prepare and agro more mobs in the area before you use 命运之手卷轴. (Probably can do without prepulling mobs, but it will make this achievement easier)
Mount and agro couple of packs in the middle of the area and move to one of the wooden platforms.
Get away from mobs (because you need to cast 命运之手卷轴 for 3 secs), but don't loose agro and try to cast it as close to the wooden platforms as you can

评论来自 tooote

It is possible that the timer starts when you press the button rather than when the cast is succesfully finished, I got interrupted twice on the cast (my earth elemental had not gotten aggro on all the adds), then got it off in the 3rd attempt and finished the quest in about 15 seconds, but didn't get the achievement.

评论来自 Beace

Tried today, but had huge issues with the mobs dropping aggro. Didn't even run far away, they simply dropped aggro randomly after a few seconds, whether I was in hand form or regular. Made 37/40 in 20 seconds, would have been very easy to get 40 if I didn't have these issues.

Ah well I'll get it next time wq is up.

评论来自 withkittens

Make a group with a friend to end up on the same server shard. Dismiss the group. While you use the 命运之手卷轴 and start to kill your packs, the friend aggroes couple of other packs on mount and moves them closer to you. Two your packs + two friend's ones should be sufficient. I failed my try (solo), but we got the achievement for my friend on our first attempt.

评论来自 Apolloshot

These achievements that require world quests up are absolutely awful. This is the first time I've seen this WQ up since hitting 120 so failing it just ONCE could mean waiting *weeks* for it again.

Absolutely terrible. I shouldn't have to consider level alts just for an extra attempt or two every few weeks.

评论来自 JFro80

Pretty bull that you can wait for the area to be clear for like 15 minutes to avoid competition only to have someone come and kill all the undead you round up out of nowhere as you're transforming. Then you have to wait another 2 weeks for the world quest to even show up.

评论来自 Elodeon

Currently, best way to do this is in the middle of the night when there are fewer other players.

If you tag a mob in any way, and the mob dies to another player, it will count toward your 40 for the quest and you will not be able to get the achievement.

If you're doing this with a pet, best idea is to put it on passive, then use pet to face-pull multiple groups. Do not let the pet damage them as it will tag them.

While you face-pull with the pet, make sure you don't get any of the aggro. Some of the mobs are ranged. Even if 40 mobs are on your pet, if 1-2 ranged ones are on you, you will not be able to use the scroll to complete this. Meanwhile another player will one-shot the mobs you gathered.

评论来自 TTHH

i tried to cheese it by killing 36/40 without the hand and killing the rest with the hand in 1shot, didnt work, dont waste your time

评论来自 GullaDaPwna

The world quest is just quite frankly horribly designed for this achievement, especially on high pop servers. If you start gathering things up even if u didn't touch them, then someone else kills them YOU get kill credit. Meaning the achievement will pretty much instant fail.

评论来自 Niixten

Another day where someone kills what I pull and I fail the achievement...

评论来自 Valkyl

Easily done as a protection paladin. Mount up, agro 3 packs, dismount, bubble, use the item. Kill. Might need to kill 1 more pack after to get to 40 kills.

评论来自 prickskytt

Not sure if I did something wrong but I started a timer at the exact moment my scroll finished casting and I killed all 40 enemies in 17 seconds but I didn't get the achievement.

评论来自 Meella

1. Do it at night when nobody is in the area
2. Your starting point needs to be in the MIDDLE
3. Pull the group farthest from you and the path you're going to take - I used my interrupt
4. Scroll AFTER you pull
5. Immediately start running into your next pack of mobs
6. Spam 2 the entire time, and only 2

You should have the first crowd you pulled, plus the 1 you ran through, another that you walked across in the middle area of there before you END off on a wooden platform. I JUST had enough mobs on my last cast when the timer ran out - got the achievement.

I just completed this achievement moments ago - solo - since Blizzards' hot-fix. Don't F it up - there's no redo until the WQ re-spawns.

评论来自 Gogeta1990

Terrible achievement when you have to share the area with a constant influx of people doing the WQ naturally (yes, even at night) and who will gladly take your 20-30 prepared mobs for themselves.

It's not like you can just reset your WQ progress and try again once you make an attempt and people interfere.
Like someone else here said, the best way is to have a friend round up extra mobs for you, but then what is the point of trying to implement it as a solo achievement...

Sometimes i have to wonder who comes up with this kind of stuff and who approved it.

评论来自 seera426

i did it as a havo dh. just mounted up, aggro couple of mobs, run a bit from the pack + metamorphosis at maximum range, and just used the second spell.

评论来自 RuiEn

Follow this route to get the achievement >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9C4MVqm1BM <<

评论来自 arekantos

You can cheese this achivment by simply gathering the mobs up before you turn into the hand, CC them and then turn into the hand and smash. You will be interupted if you take dmg when you are trying to turn into the hand

评论来自 dekonstrukt

So I do not know if this is a known bug, but it is not mentioned above. Once you transform into the hand, you cannot die. So if you go afk on mobs, the mobs will literally just sit on you and not aggro anyone that walks over them, but keep aggro on you. Experienced this today with someone else doing it and it prevented me from doing a normal loop, as such fail attempt.

评论来自 Tunney

And yet another awful timed achievement that seems impossible at the moment. Pretty frustrating stuff from Blizzard

评论来自 Faellya

who designed these achievements. Every single one in nazmir is awful and frustrating to get.

评论来自 Kiyoine

I tracked the achievement, then decided to manually kill a few of the elites to clear the way before transforming. The tracked achievement turned red (failed) as I was doing so. So the timer begins AS SOON AS you engage a mob in combat, it seems - not as soon as you use the extra action button to transform into the hand.

:| Thanks for the clarity, blizzard.

评论来自 jason999

Easy if you have a monk alt.Respec to Brewmaster and pick up the talent 玄牛雕像
Make sure there is nobody else in the area.
Pck up 3 groups of skeletons from the platforms and drop 玄牛雕像 before dismouting
Summon the hand and its done!

评论来自 rabiesarebad

You can complete this during the regular one-time horde quest 降下命运之手 which gives you multiple attempts, rather than having to wait for the WQ to pop or using alts. The timer starts when you finish casting the hand (not upon accepting the quest), and you can still track the achievement. Accept the quest, gather up mobs, CC them (taking damage will cancel the ~2 second cast), transform, and use the 2nd ability to aoe them down quickly.

If you need another attempt, abandon the quest and relog (not sure if needed, but the tracking text was still red for me), and re-accept the quest. You only need 40/50 undead, and if you succeed it will pop immediately, not on turn-in.

评论来自 vladmartin

A possible reference to "The Legend of Kyrandia: Hand of Fate" game and its glorious antagonist.

评论来自 Tamiller

For those of you who have watched the videos posted from September 2018 and earlier, and struggled with trying to follow those paths, but the mobs evade before you can kill them.. I have another way of doing this!

Get a friend. (Yes, I know the achieve can't be done in a group.. bear with me.) Group up with them. Come up with a game plan for which packs your friend is going to round up for you, and what spot they will bring the mobs to. Use flags to mark the packs to grab and the killing spot (the flags will disappear when you drop group, just use them while you're setting up to be sure you both understand exactly where you're each going.). The killing spot should be somewhere close enough that the rounded up packs won't evade, and also close to, say, another big platform to use as a second killing spot. Once you have your plan in place, wait for all other players to clear out of the area. Wait for respawns of all the ones you were planning to kill. Drop group, and GO. Your friend should now be rounding up the first set of mobs while mounted. When they are approaching killing spot #1, start transforming into the hand, then smash with button 2. Run to killing spot #2, and smash with button 2. Win.

It's still difficult, and can take a few tries to figure out how to coordinate with your friend. (Which means, waiting for the WQ to come up again.) But my husband and I got it for each other this way.

评论来自 corroc

Ultimate way to cheese this if you have a paladin alt. Collect mobs with consecration, use divine shield and you can cast the hand while being immune to everything. Kill the mobs.

评论来自 qazgosu

For all fellow hunters in the game.

When mounted go pull 3-4 packs, watch out to not lose aggro, then use your turtle and start casting
the quest item (turtle will make you to avoid getting interrupted).

After, just spam the 2nd skill and you earn the achievement.

评论来自 FAdraven

update: the previous version of this script will not work as of shadowlands pre-patch (9.0.1). it has been updated but not tested extensively.

in order to more easily track your progress on this and other bfa achievements that require that specific world quests are available, you can run the following:

/run ids={=52159,=51178,=54512,=53346,=51127,=54498,=53704,=50899}
/run t=0 x=0 for cid,qid in pairs(ids) do _,n,_,c,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,_,m=GetAchievementInfo(cid) C_QuestLog.RemoveWorldQuestWatch(qid) if not (c and m) then a=C_QuestLog.AddWorldQuestWatch(qid) print(n,a) t=t+1 if a then x=x+1 end end end
/run print(x,'of',t,'available')

you can run the lines individually, using Paste / CopyPasta, or with an extended macro using Macro Toolkit.

if you've already completed an achievement on the current character it will be skipped, otherwise the achievement name will be listed along with whether or not the required quest is available:
true = achievement is not completed, and the required quest is available and should be added to the world quest tracker
false = achievement is not completed but not the required quest available

it will also print the number of quests currently available, but if you've already completed all of the achievements nothing will be displayed.

the achievements tracked by this script are:
天降正义
以神灵之名！
惊涛拍岸
盛装舞步
真的失控了
护送运载目标
模范市民
第七军团间谍捕手

it should be noted that i've only tested this on alliance, different quest ids may be required for horde.

评论来自 wowZhenek

How to do it as frost mage:

1 - pull mobs from all around, be mindful of the short leash (they reset fast)
2 - iceblock and let them all group up on you
3 - petnova -> blink -> icebarrier -> hand cast
4 - move towards the pack and slam the "2"
5 - profit

评论来自 user123456

Everything about this is just stupid. Blizzard failed horribly and should fix it.

评论来自 Rakenessaa

F U Blizzard. See all comments. AND no way to reset this achievement tracker.

Down vote, don't care.

评论来自 MoarHeroisms

Despite its criteria telling you not to be in a group, I got this achievement while in a raid.

I listed myself in group finder and converted to raid to use the markers as a reference for which trash packs I should aggro in a practice run and just completed it on the first go with no quest progress. The calligraphy world quests can also be done this way so you don't have to worry about one-shotting them.

评论来自 SteveRocks

As someone else mentioned, I was able to do this no problem while in a raid group. The kills don't get logged while in a raid so if you make a mistake just run out of the quest area and try again. Just make sure that the other people in your raid are not in the same zone as you (Nazmir) or you won't get the achievement.

评论来自 schnizol

That method with pulling a few groups and trying in raid still works.
Also, be sure you can get away from pulled groups for long enough to cast the Hand scroll as any attack interrupts. As a mage I could nova and 2x shimmer away

评论来自 Vampyrr

Got it first try following that video guide good work!

评论来自 Canukistani

Based on the earlier videos posted and what i see today. there are a lot more of the elite zombies then before. I'm wondering if this achievement is even possible anymore.

评论来自 Ajfree

As a hunter I stood at 63.5, 15 and Misdirected 3 packs to my pet (count 40 before pulling). I used the scroll and 1 shot them all for the achievement. I invited an alt to make a raid group, but I managed this on the first try.

评论来自 Jovahkiin

As of 8.3, creating a group and trying to convert it to raid does not work, it simply won't let you convert the party to raid without anyone in it.

Be warned, do not attempt this achievement if anyone is nearby doing their world quest (pretty much impossible for me on high pop) as they will very likely crash you and begin your timer while you are pulling.

Very frustrating achievement design to say the least.

评论来自 Oxyia

Easily done this on my first attempt with an Havoc DH, but any class with immunities that allow you to cast while immune works (Pala, Rogue, Hunter). Talent into Netherwalk. Pull 3-4 packs at once, click netherwalk so they cannot stop you casting the scroll to become the Hand of Fate. Once the cast is complete, simply spam 2 and you should get your achi instantly. Make sure no people are around when you try this though, as they might steal your packs away.

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不组队的情况下，化身命运之手，在20秒内完成纳兹米尔世界任务“失控”。

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