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评论来自
birrd
This is the best shield for Warrior tanks that is obtainable before Mt. Hyjal and Black Temple. The combination of high stamina, block value and armor make this shield very appealing, just for PvE purposes though it is a great shield for Prot. PvP too if you do that sort of thing.
The armor value in particular is amazing given that one can acquire this item quite easily. For more casual raiders like myself (currently finishing up Kara, starting Gruul's) this is one of the best tanking upgrades you can get for quite a while.
评论来自
34299
Merciless Gladiator vs. Aldori Legacy Defender (with +12 stam gem)
+448 Armor
+15 Block
-3 Stamina
+31 Resilience Rating (useless)
-21 Defense Rating (2.52% pure avoidance)
-15 Hit Rating (0.95% hit)
I'm not even sure I'd call it a sidegrade, it's definitely a little better than the shield from Gruul. Someone earlier called it, for 25-man raiding it's all about stamina and armor. This nets you a small loss in stamina but a big enough armor boost that it's totally worth it.
评论来自
mdknod
After the patch any high end tank should be well over the defense cap... making this shield the best shield in the game pre hyjal/bt. If you compare it to the shield from gruul you lose 3 stamina and 15 hit, completely ignoring the + defense because you are already at your cap. The top end armor and block on this shield makes it a better shield than the gruul shield simply because of that.
评论来自
48915
There is NO such thing as a defense cap.
490 is the MINIMUM a tank should achieve to be Crit-immune against lvl 73 (boss) and those mobs with unaltered combat table.
After 490 you still benefit from Defense as it add to your change to dodge/parry/block and chance for the mob to miss you.
Then if u think avoid is useless in end game, it's good to hv some around to keep your 2 charges of shield block b4 the CD is up to push off Crushing
评论来自
37214
This shield gives you 668 more effective health compared to the Gruul Shield. This 668 is calculated from a raid buffed 20,000 armor and 20,000 stamina baseline vs. a L73 mob, as it were. That is an extremely significant amount of effective health.
Here are some more comparisons:
Health/Armor baseline with Gruul shield~EH improvement with Arena shield:
20/20: +668 EH
19/19: +633 EH
18/18: +598 EH
This effective health is coming from armor, which means it's coming from physical damage reduction-which means less healing.
This shield is the best for physical damage 25 man raid encounters until BT/HYJ. That's not up for debate or a matter of opinion. This shield is really overpowered and shouldn't be obtainable though the arenas.
评论来自
warrior
Bleh tanking... :P
It's true purpose is in the hands of a PvPer - this shield is sick against BM hunters! High block (add +18 block value enchant = 170 total from the shield alone), high armor and upwards of 350-400 resil when you have it equipped, would allow you to survive any BM hunter's attacks while in beastial wrath and once it runs out, switch back to your 2 hander of choice and mash em into the ground.
评论来自
Uleh
(aversion to numbers? Skip to ::::TL;DR:::: section below!)
Comparing the resilience of this shield to the lack of defense rating it has, the resilience is actually *better* to have, much more so, point for point than defense rating in consideration of CRITICAL hits only. Though we lose a good bit of pure avoidance to to lack of defense (giving up our +miss/dodge/parry/block), see below math:
(Conversions for Level 70 from:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Combat_Rating#Resilience
)
Resilience for (-1% crit, -2% crit dmg) is 39.4 resilience
60 defense rating = 25 defense skill = 1% dodge/parry/block/miss and -1% crit chance
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Merciless Gladiator's Shield Wall
5727 Armor
152 Block
+48 Stamina
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 31.
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31 resilience = -0.786% to be crit
20 defense skill = ~48 defense rating = -0.8% chance to crit (can go to about 470 defense skill to be uncrittable by 73's)
So, the 31 resilience form the shield is worth approximately 48 defense rating!
However, keep in mind we lose some avoidance through the missing dodge/parry/miss/block from losing the defense rating.
To compare, look at a popular shield alternative:
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Crest of the Sha'tar --
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=29176
4465 Armor
108 Block
+19 Stamina (two solid stars to blue sockets, +24 stam for +43 total stam)
Socket Bonus: +3 Dodge Rating
Equip: Increases defense rating by 13.
Equip: Increases the block value of your shield by 24.
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13 defense rating = 5.5 defense skill = 0.22% to each dodge/parry/block/miss = 0.88% total mitigation.
With socket bonus, the +3 dodge rating = 0.16% dodge
TOTAL : 1.04% mitigation
This rating also gives ONLY -.22% chance to be crit, unlike the resilience stat above.
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::::TL;DR version::::
Using the arena shield with 31 resilence will give allow you to drop some defense skill below the 490 mark (to about 470) and still remain uncritable by level 73 mobs. However, you trade (in this case) 1.04% mitigation for trading from the Crest of the Sha'tar (this depends on which shield you trade from).
Warriors can trade to this easier than Paladin tanks (without even thinking for the most part), as paladins push to the 102.4 magic number harder due to holy shield (without libram) only gives 30% block instead of the 75% warriors receive, but if you are a pally and you have the Sha'tar Crest and push 103.5 mitigation with holy shield active, this shield will still keep you uncrushable!
So, pick up this shield, and push your 'other' ratings of dodge/parry/block, see what happens! It's what I plan on doing :P
评论来自
143488
With regards to the above comments, this is a pretty good tanking shield.
It has lots of armour and block value. The lack of raw crit reduction (ie. defense) is compensated by the resilience.
However, it does have an over-seen use. My tankadin currently owns the Shattered sun reputation shield, but I am currently doing the odd arena to save up for this beauty.
Why?
Our guild is currently attempting Illidan, and I have been asked to get fire resistance together to tank the Flames of Azzinoth. While it is easy to hit the resistance cap, getting uncrittable at the same time is another story.
When gathering resistance gear, the general priority is:
Hit the resistance cap -> Get uncrittable -> Stack stamina
For raw crit reduction, resilience is better than defense.
In conclusion, even though it lacks in pure avoidance, this is currently the 2nd best non-resistant, resistance shield (after the vengeful gladiator's shield wall), if you understand :).
(No offence to pvpers)
评论来自
168818
Here is the Stat comparison from upgrading from the Season 1
Gladiator's Shield Wall
:
+530 Armor
+18 Block
+3 Stamina
+2 Resilience
评论来自
Allakhazam
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评论来自
Thottbot
I think this is good :) People with lots of game-time can enjoy the fun n caress of forming parties n going raiding for items equivilent / better to this. Wheres as those with less game-time can still enjoy such items with the challenge of versing multiple human players :)
Either ladder of play, similar rewards, varying game-time : Whats wrong with that ?
评论来自
Thottbot
Where is the shammy/pally version of the shield? Blizz took almost the whole first season to give them a choice of a healing and/or spell damage weapon are they going to make them wait until almost the end of season 2 for a decent shield?
评论来自
Thottbot
btw does this look the same?
评论来自
Thottbot
Its red/black.
评论来自
Thottbot
yeah it looks the same as the season 1
评论来自
Thottbot
Get this and save your self some DKP....is what im gona do...is not better than gull's shield but its not so hard to get
评论来自
Thottbot
From PTR (as of July 17,07):
+Healing Shield:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/shield1.jpg
+Dmg Shield:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/shield2.jpg
News Post:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=470.0
评论来自
Thottbot
LMAO
WTG Blizz making a PvP Reward designed for PvE
Blizzard is crazy but thats why we love em <3
评论来自
Thottbot
This is a pala/shamie wep. Because then they die less fast me and my 3v3 always nuke a shamie, since no bubble(blablabla) so it's very usefull to have it since theres like 600hp on it( with enchant)
评论来自
Thottbot
Waited about a month, saving up those 1875 arena points, and today after server reset and patch, I happily stroll into A-52, and buy this shield. Then I realize Blizzard saw fit to shrink this on Nelf Males and now it looks like flashier crest of Sha'tar.....
/wrists
评论来自
Thottbot
-_- Thottbot needs to hurry up and add the Spelldam/Healing versions.
评论来自
Thottbot
down to 1630 points now with S3 out.
评论来自
Thottbot
this shield is awesome !
评论来自
Thottbot
I see lots of posts about Shammys and Palys not getting a shield with spell damage or healing. Get over it. This is the only item in the whole Merciless Gladiator set that is worth grinding for by a legitimate Warrior Tank. There are a few marginal exceptions. But this shield is the only reason a Prot Tank would even consider going into arena. Quit crying about not having a paly or shaman shield because you have it good. There are tons of sweet pieces for all specs of your respective classes, and VERY few pieces for a true Prot Tank.
评论来自
Thottbot
I see lots of posts about Shammys and Palys not getting a shield with spell damage or healing. Get over it. This is the only item in the whole Merciless Gladiator set that is worth grinding for by a legitimate Warrior Tank. There are a few marginal exceptions. But this shield is the only reason a Prot Tank would even consider going into arena. Quit crying about not having a paly or shaman shield because you have it good. There are tons of sweet pieces for all specs of your respective classes, and VERY few pieces for a true Prot Tank.
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