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评论来自
189
Best (from a pure value of dps standpoint) 2 hand weapon you can find in Blackwing Lair yes. There are better weapons to be found in Ahn'Qiraj and Naxxramas, Dark Edge of Insanity and Might of Menethil for example.
评论来自
Farmbuyer
Out of curiosity, who or what is the "A.L." mentioned in the tooltip?
评论来自
jackmccrack
Badass.
Lothar was the man. But Doomhammer was the man slightly more.
评论来自
7576
This is a pretty good weapon for 3 classes in particular: Warrior, Hunter, and Paladin
Warrior - The top-end damage on Ashkandi makes it a very powerful Mortal Strike weapon. The additional stats (33 STA, 86 AP) also are of great help to warriors. Definely one of the game's better weapons for warriors.
Hunter - Weapon damage dosent exactly matter as much since Hunter's probably shouldnt be fighting melee battles. However, 86AP - especially since after 2.01 is a significant buff to their ranged weapon, and you can't go wrong with 33 Stamina. A good weapon for stats.
Paladin - Seal of Command tends to like weapons with high top-end damage, so Ashkandi fits well into that. The melee attack power and extra stamina boost also make this a pretty good weapon for a Ret pally.
评论来自
9590
An amazing sword from Nefarion in Blackwing Lair. I recommend any dps warrior to get this if you can. I've seen crits with this and some tier 2.5 gear on for 12k. It really is one of the best 2 handers in the game at this point and if you can use it, look into getting it.
评论来自
9718
This sword is very effective and difficult to replace. I would suggest it going to dps warriors first seeing as how they will melee more often than hunters or paladins, although it is great for all of those classes. This item is dropped off of the last boss (Nefarian) in BWL (Blackwing Lair).
评论来自
kern
I'm happy to be the first (and only) Paladin on my server with this beautiful sword. It's a shame I'll be replacing it in one more level (68) with The Oathkeeper.
评论来自
35664
this is the sword that the orc used to slice nagas in TBC intro cinematic
评论来自
59139
This sword was the sword of an old hero of the alliance Anduin Lothar, Lion of Azeroth, he was killed by Doomhammer at the steeps of Blackrock MT during the second war. When it says Sword of the Brotherhood by Brotherhood it means the Brotherhood of the Horse, each has died of sinse the second war, the dragons on the hilt are rlly lions in most pictures of him. The dragons are actully there because Nefarian corrupted it. Quel'Zaram is another sword used by Anduin, thoguh not in-game it is an extremely strong weapon in lore. Turalyon his greatest general is the big stature you see holding the broken sword when you enter SW.
评论来自
Shockna
Anduin Lothar was pretty awesome.
Two Handed Sword in one hand, Shield as big as his torso, and he carries children! He's a kickass orphanage.
Quel'Zaram was, indeed, the other weapon Lothar used. Ashkandi was his back up weapon.
Even though this sword is extremely outdated in terms of power now, it's well worth it to gather others to get it for lore buffs.
评论来自
36549
According to that website... Ashkandi was his back-up sword.
But no one knows what his Main-sword was, but they believe it was
Quel'serrar, why would anyone use Quel'serrar over Ashkandi?
Unless it was a better version or it was insanely buffed...
I think it's awesome how Blizzard made a whole history for the World that World of Warcraft takes place . Just how they mix the history with the new stuff.
评论来自
102753
isnt the brotherhood supposed to be the defias brotherhood
评论来自
neoscorpio
Ashkandi is jokingly referred to as "Asscandy" by some players, due to the way its name is pronounced.
评论来自
139657
Fun Fact:
This swords is jokingly referred to by pre-BC endgame players, who were familiar with the blade, as
Asscandy
.
A humorous nickname and obvious spin-off of its initial name,
Ashkandi
.
评论来自
144967
L.A. = Sir Anduin Lothar, the Lion of Azeroth
评论来自
130895
Doesn't this one look stupid? A sword as wide as the person holding it.. When you look at the screenshot with a female holding it in one hand, that only looks realistic if the sword is made of plastic...
评论来自
Thottbot
This weapon was built for warriors and paladins.
-Why?-
Warriors and pallies tank just about the
same. They both wear plate and they have
various abilities to draw agro.
_________________________________________________
This weapon
COULD
go to a hunter, but warriors and pallies
would make better use of it.
-Why?-
Hunters are built to shoot
. Their entire
being is built around sending a pet out to
distract the enemy while they shoot from
afar. Although I have met some hunters that
were decent at melee combat, other classes
(warriors & paladins) are superior. Not to
mention, hunters that shoot far exceed
hunters that melee.
Common Sense People...
评论来自
Thottbot
Let it be clear that this is Anduin Lothar's sword...
A.L. = Anduin Lothar, Brotherhood= Brotherhood of the Horse, Lothar's order in Azeroth, Lothar died on Blackrock Spire..
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, I am a level 60 Hunter, and though this sword looks very appealing, I'd expect a dps warrior to have first dibs on it. To say we should get equal rights to it is like saying Warriors should get equal rights to Blastershot Launcher or some other ranged weapon which gives stat boosts like +agi or +chance to crit.
评论来自
Thottbot
So... if a hunter bow drops with the same stats, i highley doubt you would allow a warrior to bid on it the first couple drops.
Kandy= Really nice Hunter TRINKET
评论来自
Thottbot
WHAT THE $%^&
Honestly, while I can understand how frusterated a warrior could be by losing this to a hunter or a paladin, there is no weapon that is bound to one class unless the item specifies.
Ok, so your warrior is melee near 100% of the time. That does make it crucial to have a good weapon.
Paladins can heal, but this does
NOT
mean that it's the only thing they can do. Paladins can have amazing DPS given the right spec, and in any solo PvP or PvE they also need a good weapon.
Hunters have ranged attacks, and traps and wing clip, making it maybe a small bit less important for them to have a good melee weapon. However, hunters can often be forced into melee combat due to PvP or some PvE situations involving more than one mob.
So given that it is important for all 3 classes to have a good melee weapon, what's all the #$%^ing fighting about?
Warriors want first dibs, they do all the tanking, they should be rewarded.
Paladins want a chance for a good weapon, as is often denied them under the arguements about what "class" an item should be or about whether or not paladins can DPS.
Hunters want a good Melee weapon, which they are denied even more often for the same reason, and the fighting over whether or not a good hunter uses melee.
The fact is,
ALL THREE
classes have a use for this, or any other melee weapon. Unless a melee weapon has a fairly class specific stat like +def (for tanks) or + ranged AP (for hunters) or + healing (for pallies), then it should be a tossup between the three classes which can utilize the weapon.
I've heard arguements that people don't raid to outfit their players for PvP so pallies and hunters don't need these weapons. Then why do warriors need these weapons? Aren't they the only class allowed to MT high end instances? Shouldn't they be restricted to main hand weapons and sheilds? But wait, warriors have a different spec that allows them to dish out phenomenal DPS with either dual weilding or 2h weapons. So if a warrior can feel free to spec themselves however they want, why can't there be a retro pally dishing out mass DPS in between heals? Or a hunter who choses to poison and debuff and wear down their opponents with range and then decemate them with melee?
I've seen plenty of raids with players who tear through instances and high end bosses easily because they have all of their classes functioning at full efficiancy, with hunters and paladins doing their jobs
and
adding mass DPS.
Sure it might be nice to have this weapon before any other class does. And if your guild chooses to favor drops to one class at first that's for them to decide. But the endless bickering over which class gets what weapon is pointless, because all three classes can use two handed weapons to their full potential, and if someone feels that the weapon they'd like to roll on is better for their spec than the one you think they should have, they're most likely right, because they know their spec and play style better than you do.
评论来自
Thottbot
Anyone know any lore about this weapon?
评论来自
Thottbot
Whoever said this is a hunter weapon over warriors is truly a retard. Sure, a variety of classes can benefit from a weapon. But, gear is always allocated by DKP or some other system to the class it is BEST suited for. Period.
So, no warrior would be given preference over a hunter for a good ranged weapon, even if they could use the stats, because hunters would make best use of it.
Likewise, until BC this is one of the most uber 2-handers in the game, particularly since it's a sword, and the warrior sword talent gives a double hit proc, so when it fires both attacks give white damage, and therefore both generate rage.
The guy who said hunters should roll on this over warriors must never have raided in his life, because no guild that could get this would give it to a hunter over a warrior, and if anyone seriously suggested it they would be laughed out of the instance.
I'm a warrior, and I happen to have a Blastershot Launcher. The only reason I do is all our hunters have better, and the DPS warriors and rogues rolled on it for the stats. That's fine. No point in letting it go to waste. But I would never, nor would I ever be permitted, to roll on that over a hunter.
Whenever I hear this crap about "I can use it too so I should get it", it's usually from someone who is either/or a noob, selfish, immature, or a casual player with gear envy. Even if I'm in a pug, I won't roll on something that's obviously superior for another class, even if I can use it.
评论来自
Thottbot
There are multiple references to Lothar in World of Warcraft. What is assumed to be Lothar's sword, Ashkandi, Greatsword of the Brotherhood, makes an appearance in World of Warcraft as an extremely rare epic two-handed sword that drops from the boss Nefarian in Blackwing Lair - when the cursor is moved over the weapon, under all the stats it states "The initials A.L. are engraved into the hilt". This would imply that Lothar was indeed killed at Blackrock Spire, for Nefarian is found at the highest point of Blackrock Spire, in the Blackwing Lair. There is also a World of Warcraft realm (server) named for Lothar. There is also a statue of Lothar in the Burning Steppes, south of Black Rock Mountain - another indication of his death.
评论来自
Thottbot
its funny seeing ppl who'll never get this keep arguing about who it belongs to.
评论来自
Thottbot
BC is out woot! No more class fights on Asscandy!
评论来自
Thottbot
Jesus your all idiot's; This is clearly, rather obviously, a mage item.
评论来自
Thottbot
Amazing how a digital figure can make some of you cream your pants.
As for the sword, I think it's a damn shame this awesome looking sword won't see the light of day now that TBC has progressed so far. If nothing else they should re-use the model. Probably one of the nicest models in game to date.
评论来自
Thottbot
rofl NE hunters picture description is so right.
评论来自
Thottbot
ok ppl just too let u know that this sword is for worrior pally and hunters im a pally and this wep would go good for pallys that are ret spec i seen a vdeo of a ret pally useing it.
If you want to see that video on youtube go on youtube.com then go on that seach thing and put Marx paladin pvp 4 .when u see it comment me back and tell me if its good for pallyies and stuff ok
remmber to see video on youtube.com
评论来自
Thottbot
NICE *!@#
评论来自
Thottbot
GREAT hunter weapon but warriors get priority loot over anyone for this
评论来自
Thottbot
HEY! I have a great idea. Let's all just say OMFGUBERZORHUNTERWEPOMGPWNAGE!1111one1!1one just because hunters can use this weapon...that'd be real intelligent, just like if a warrior needed on a bow one of YOUR retarded asses needed because of some minor stats, you'd be whining and complaining way more than warriors would be if you needed this. You never see warriors saying OMFGWARRIORWEAPONSZORPWNAGE! just hunters, because half of all hunters are comprised of idiots and selfish 12 year olds. Learn to play and learn to play with dignity and respect for other players/classes. Next time you ask for a warrior to pull something off you I hope he doesn't and you will realize just how useless your class really is in the scheme of things, hunters aren't almight, they are just one of many dps classes to choose from. Learn to play. Kktnxbai.
EDIT: And yeah, why the hell did you photoshop nipples into your picture...
评论来自
Thottbot
all i see is WHINY BABIES OFF WARRIORS AND PALADINS , ok ... you need the wep more then hunters, but why send 1000 posts about it just beacuse people MUST know YOUR meaning off things i mean come on! scroll up some... what u see ? 20 serious posts and........ 980 Spam posts with ''omg sucky hunter waaaah they stole my sword! what am i gonna do ? i know! i let the world know how whiny i am! that will teach him!
评论来自
Thottbot
OK the picture up there wit the girl wit the %^&* completely made me agreee .... PALADINS SHOULD GET THIS INSTEAD
NUFF SAID
评论来自
Thottbot
this is a kinda lame question but what does the initials A.L. scratched into the sword mean i was just curious
评论来自
Thottbot
as WotLK comes closer... woulndt it be UBER to dualwield it?
评论来自
Allakhazam
A.L :
Aw3s0me L33t.
Easy.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Here's another screenie of how it looks on a hume:
http://www.boomspeed.com/aqueous/AshkandiGSotB.JPG
Yeah, the mouse pointer is annoying I know, will change the screenie once the servers are back up.
As for comparing it to other blades, this is the best Warrior weapon on the game at the moment. In terms of a Warrior using weaponry, it is superior to Sulfuras, Ashbringer and the High Warlord in terms of raw DPS done by the Warrior.
Surprised it isn't legendary but it's Tier 3 I guess ^^.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i have two of these..
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://www.drag0thic.de/erseni.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ashkandi, Greatsword of the Brotherhood
v.s.
Kalimdor's Revenge
Choose for yourself
评论来自
Allakhazam
Think about it its not realy a pally weopon. no matter what they say.... Im a dps warrior using Untamed Blade. Not that thats importent but in a normal run even the Main Tank is givin more dps then our best dps paladin. Paladins just not hit/crit or anything like a dps warrior. Its an fact that pallys just have to life with, as they should do what the Raid leader says. If he says dps hten go dps. Do he say heal/buff then Heal/buff. In my guild im about just under the most warlocks/mages and rogue's and hunters. But im also over alot of them. (in Damage done meter). The paladins are in the bottom.
评论来自
Allakhazam
All hunter weapon jokes aside...
This lil guy is quite impressive.
86 attack power, plus 330 health points.
Using a survivalist build that is 10% more health again.
Add to this monster 25 Agility enchant and that is an extra 50 attack power.
A Whopping 136 ranged attack power from 1 weapon.
Much Love.
评论来自
Allakhazam
double post...
Edited, Sun Jun 4 20:32:07 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
My guild made our first Nefarian kill over seven months ago. Since then, we've made over thirty Nefarian kills, and not a single Ashkandi has dropped for us (Same for Elementium Reinforced Bulwark off of Chromaggus and Netherwind Pants off Ragnaros). Our warriors and paladins are ready to cry at this point. Meanwhile, another end-game guild on our server has had five drop in the last two months alone, and now hunters are getting them. *Sighs*
Edited, Aug 7th 2006 at 8:01am EDT by Allerka
评论来自
Allakhazam
This must be mainly dps warrior right? I mean, it might be USEFUL for hunters but in no way ESSENTIAL. Barb of the sand reaver is easily the better hunter weapon as Harmaahapsi proved this before and i can't be bothered to reiterate. So can hunters stop taking all the good looking weapons just because it'll look impressive when there in the major cities? However after all warriors and maybe even paladins have got it then sure roll away :) lol,
评论来自
Allakhazam
Best 2-hander in the game period.
评论来自
Allakhazam
In my opinion this is the best 2 handed sword I have seen yet, does anyone have it?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this weapon. My MS crits for nearly 2k, with normal swing crits at about 1200(on plate).
That's right. I'm the Greatest!
评论来自
Allakhazam
To the guy who say the guy on the pic are wearing LAWBRINGER HANDGUARDS whatever... its not lawbringer it is
https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/item=24809/
固执护手 AKA stronghold gauntlets
评论来自
Allakhazam
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Edited, Tue Dec 13 07:19:24 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
One thing I notice; most of those complaining have little to no knowledge of the Paladin class.
Honestly, having played a Priest, Rogue, and a Paladin to 60, I find the uses of any and every end of game weapon as good on a Paladin as it would be on a Warrior.
Most of these type of weapons are not even used in BWL/MC.
The highest DPS Warriors are usually Fury to begin with; Arms is merely used on Ebonroc and similar fights merely for the support of Mortal Strike. (Key word here: Support).
Likewise, most Paladins are used for Cleanse; (Another support ability) just far more frequently. Something they can do while being upfront meleeing and keeping Judgements up to maintain mana regen on spell casters and Hunters active (once again, another supportive move).
Not saying Warrior damage isn't worthwhile, but that likewise, Paladin damage is also welcomed in instances that are down to farm status.
Face it. You won't be DPSing as you make progression through a new instance, neither as a Warrior, nor as a Paladin.
You will be tanking and healing/cleansing.
These weapons are mostly used in PVP.
In PVP, a Paladin with Reckoning and 2H Spec can easily match or even surpass a Warrior in terms of damage.
While you may see higher numbers as a Warrior due to Enrage; a Paladin can deal up to 4,000-6,000 damage with multiple Reckoning crits stacked under 2H Spec; all in a split second, for an instant one shooter.
This is, with a decent weapon.
Nothing like Ashkandi.
You've seen damage like this from Enrage/Sword Spec and multiple crits as your Warrior I am certain?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5691789779502685227
I am sure you have.
If you do happen to be as well geared and buffed as him, that is.
Don't hate your fellow Paladins for spending well earned DKP on what they desire.
Learn to DKP and appreciate the efforts of others while maintaining a good sport's attitude in the race to highest DKP.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got that thingie yesterday and it's just amazing.
Was the first warrior in our raid that get it, 2 pals and 1 hunt before me (DKP without class restrictions suck :P) and it's definitly a warrior wep. It's also nice for pals and maybe for hunters that need some stamina.
When I saw the numbers popping up while ww'ing I know that the next warrior nerf isn't far away.
Edit: 'round 13 nef kills, and we got 4 asscandies and 1 Staff of the Shadow Flame :D
greetz
Edited, Sun Apr 9 19:22:16 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Rogue weapon
评论来自
Allakhazam
How do you pronounce the name? Is it osh-kon-dye, pronounced as it looks, or something else? I know this is a pretty stupid question, but some of the possible pronunciations just sound weird.
评论来自
Allakhazam
A.L is Anduin Lothar (warcraft I and II) Leader of the Nation and survivors of Azeroth after the death of King Liane in Warcraft II. He's also the one who slayed medivh in Warcraft I and if remember well he dies while an ambush trying to establish a peace threaty with the Blackrock Clan. After his death it's the mage Khadgar (beyond the dark portal) who becomes Leader, he dies too while destroying the Dark Portal from the otherside. After this I have no idea what happened.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Il sell my pinky for it. (pinky sux anyway)
评论来自
Allakhazam
i quadruple wield this, ashbringer, sulfuras and SoD on my lvl 75 gnome druid on eonar, come see.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anduin Lothar was not a paladin, by the way. Here's a link from Wikipedia on Anduin Lothar:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anduin_Lothar
. Some good readin' for ya.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I would say this weapon should go to a warrior over a paladin...I'm not saying that paladins don't have a shot at it because they certainly do...but in the hands of a warrior...its even more devastating there, over it being in the hands of a paladin.
Edited, Sun Nov 27 23:35:09 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm the guy in the picture and I'm very much a warrior =]
评论来自
Allakhazam
that is one hardcore weapon is it the best in the game?
评论来自
Allakhazam
if this guy was a knight it did not mean that he was a warrior or a pally or a hunter he was a KNIGHT as in the pvp rank so any class can have it
评论来自
Allakhazam
Obviously the attack power bonus means that this is a Warrior's weapon...but i think a better TH sword for Warrior's might be Kalimdor's Revenge
卡利姆多的复仇
评论来自
Allakhazam
lvl 57 should have this............enough said...........stf*
Edited, Tue May 2 20:42:22 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
any one know how much attack power you get per str?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this our on first Nef kill.
Sadly I did not win it. :\
评论来自
Allakhazam
im a ms spec warrior and got this on saturday :) really is a nice weapon 2k ms crits are not uncommon in 6 neffy kills, 4 of these have droped :)
1 was given to a hunter and 3 were given to the dps warriors in guild me being one of them, all in all im very happy as im sure you can guess :)
Edited, Mon Jun 19 06:49:14 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
every warrior in the guild thats run BWL thats wanted this sword got it thats 11 warriors now 3 hunters have it i got one on my paladin since on one run NOONE wanted it i was thinking somthign weird was going on but it turned out that warriors in the run had it and the 3 hunters with it where there so i got it
评论来自
Allakhazam
If your guild is relying on hunters to get aggro off of things, you won't be seeing this sword anyway. Raptor Strike is a joke, I don't know hunters are so proud of it.
Did I ever say that I was proud of it, ermm wait no I didnt.
You get a 20% crit with it? Something dodges and a warrior gets 50% chance to crit with this, and yes mobs do dodge. On top of that, the top end factors in heavily to a mortal strike, making it very useful to a warrior. And for anyone who says warriors never MS in raids, it makes Ebonroc a much faster match, which will be done more routinely than a hunter will pull aggro off casters. WTF is that, anyway? Does your guild have Downs? IF you ever needed a hunter to pull aggro, it would be so that they can kite something until a tank gets free, not so that they melee. So you'd use distracting shot, as your PoS raptor strike is far inferior to whatever a mage, lock, or priest is throwing out to generate threat.
Agreed we dont Melee but to say that we just sit there and /shoot would be stupid I can tell that you have never played beyond your warrior to tell what the Hunter class can and does actualy achieve yet it wont change your mind since you think that every Melee weapon is a Warrior weapon
It's not a hunter weapon.
Did I ever state that it was a Hunter Weapon? Incorrect I didnt thats you trying to validate your claim over all melee weapons again...
A hunter can use it, yes, but never again try to validate that this weapon should go to a hunter first.
Again I never stated that this should go to a Hunter First maybe you should stop trying to hoard your weapons and look at what is being written
They do have hunter weapons in this game, they're called ranged weapons. Any melee weapon you use is a glorified trinket, and you know it.
Thats why all Warriors never carry a Ranged weapon right, oh wait they do dont they sorry then would you call that a glorified trinket then?
So in your greedy mind, you're saying "Well, I could just use Zin'Rokh which is still an awesome weapon as my trinket, or rather than allow someone use a main-weapon, I could say that this 2H weapon is an even better TRINKET for me, and say I need it." Are you serious? Rogues and fury warriors need critical strike, but they don't claim preference on ranged weapons that produce it. That's the thing about a lot of hunters (not all) that gets to me -- you think everything that benefits you belongs to you. Ashkandi is a hands down amazing melee weapon and should go to a melee class first, just as ranged weapons go to YOU first. Itemization, just use two 1H's.
I could say the same there are better weapons in the Game for a warrior, but this is the most DPS adding weapon there is for a Hunter there is not 'better' weapon than this for adding more dps that i can think of.
I'm glad people like you will never see the end of Blackwing Lair, so it will never be a real issue -- and if you do, it's only because you had a really good guild who let you sit on /follow. So in my opinion, it should go to warriors first, and honestly I don't care if pallies or hunters get it after that. If you want it that badly, re-roll.
I feel sorry that you had to personaly attack me so i must of hit a sore spot ;) Merry Christmas
Edited, Dec 24th 2006 8:35am by Gestahlt
I know there are lots of Fantastic and great Warriors out there (the majority are) and i do know that there are worst hunters but please atleast look at what it does for the hunter :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
When my main Buldress gets to lvl 60 i wanna kill nefarian me want sword!
评论来自
Allakhazam
this item ist just awesome.. the looks are freaking cool omg i want this so bad! GIMME GIMME GIMME
评论来自
Allakhazam
Here's a picture:
http://tinypic.com/e5ihah.jpg
*drool* that things even cooler than the untamed blade but IMO they shoulda called it something like the serpentine blade of the dragon...is that name taken?
BTW...is it better than duel wielding a windseeker and an offhand sword?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Also, this sword does basically the same dmg per hit with the Grand Marshal sword, however, in a 60 sec time span, it does 5238 dmg, and the grand Marshal does 4600 dmg.
Stat wise, they are not too far apart. This sword has a equivalent of 43 strength, and the grand marshal has 26. But the grand marshal gives 1% crit and 13 more stam, and it's probably easier to get unless you count on the fact that once this baby drop, you guarantee to get it.
In any case, my dream set armor + this sword will give me a 5100 HP, 5042 MP, 748 ATP, 11 - 12 % crit from gear ONLY, +5% base crit?
and I'm a paladin. So I'll be unstoppable with these crazy stats on.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok, just to clear up any confusion, Anduin Lothar was not a paladin. He was a Knight, which in WoW pretty much translates to warrior. And the "Brotherhood" is actually the Brother Hood of the Horse,
NOT
the Silver Hand.
评论来自
Allakhazam
is this weapon even real!
seems kinda unreal;P
评论来自
Allakhazam
Yar only thing that could make me change from sword spec would be Dark Edge of Insanity thats one sick freaking weapon... That kicks this swords arse =D
/Orc Warrior FTW ;P
评论来自
Allakhazam
I kinda like the ppl saying all warriors ned to be Prot spec'd....
Anyways, i Guess a pally could use, but there's no way a pally could come anywhere close in dmg with a warrior using it. It's simply pallies can't really do any "atk moves" it's all based on proc rates. So warriors can do a higher dps without worrying about seals or w/e.
And Hunters, isn't there better DW axes or something that drop in BWL and MC?
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Allakhazam
i say if a hunter wants to waste his DKP on the AP and Stamina let him lol
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Allakhazam
Defenetely a pRiEsT wep
Dont Nerf the gnomes, just because they poon 24/7
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Allakhazam
WhAT ARE YOU PEOPLE INSANE! HUNTERS DONT MELEE! There are no hunter swords or daggers the are hunter GUNS! and agility is not a hunter attribute its a ROGUE ATTRIBUTE! SHUT UP AND TAKE YOU LAME JOKES WITH YOU TO THE GRAVE!
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Allakhazam
I my way off seeing it ill say this is very good for hunter now that the agility has been set from 1agil = 2attack power to 1agility = 1 attack power... so there is 86 agility in this wep if you make it into agility...
so @#%^!
The eye off nerub ;
http://www.thotbott.com/?i=53926
45 agility = 45 attack power :(
22 stam
and the +4bow/gun/crossbow is also nice for hunters
Barb of the sand reaver ;
http://www.thotbott.com/?i=52839
41 agility = 41 attack power
31 stam
SO If i can get
http://www.thotbott.com/?i=51920
86 attack power = 86 agility :)
33 stam
and even with the 25 agility on the others they dont even get near the 86 attack power, and dont forget that you can also do 25 agility on this one so now its called
http://wow.blupp.net/item.php?id=378433
... SO ill say HUNTER :P
Edited, Dec 10th 2006 3:30pm by Hunululu
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Allakhazam
Arguing about "class weapons" does not make any sense at all. Don't make up your own rules; if something is equipable for a particular class it IS MEANT to be used by that class. And if it has better stats, then anything you already own, rolling for "need" is completely justifiable... Even if you're a hunter rolling for Ashkandi.
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Allakhazam
Here's a picture:
http://tinypic.com/e5ihah.jpg
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Allakhazam
Warrior - Ashkandi
Paladin - Sulfuras
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Allakhazam
Wouldn't this rival DPS with
灰烬使者
Mon Jan 30 23:17:52 2006
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Allakhazam
Man this sword was bigger than the guy i saw wielding it. In my opinion this thing is as good/or better than thunderyfury. Anyway i think it should be a pallys sword since warriors should focus on one-hand swords and shields, so they can survive the 5-6k hits Nefer hits them for.
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Allakhazam
Man this sword was bigger than the guy i saw wielding it. In my opinion this thing is as good/or better than thunderyfury. Anyway i think it should be a pallys sword since warriors should focus on one-hand swords and shields, so they can survive the 5-6k hits Nefer hits them for.
dude duh warriors only focus on 1h/shield for end game PvE, ever heard of PvP. yeah warriors are a great PvP class and they go 2h if arms/fury. duel wield if just fury. shove it up your ass dude because seriously you dont know what you're talking about
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Allakhazam
i got a great PICTURE of this SWORD
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Allakhazam
This thing looks so 1337
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Allakhazam
already 152 kill of neferian?
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Allakhazam
Huntar lewt.
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Allakhazam
Anyone post a new screenshot? this one is outdated.
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Allakhazam
anyone got a working link to a pic?
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Allakhazam
i cant wait till we get to the point of game where we disenchant this stuff.
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Allakhazam
This weapon is the best 2h in the game to date, its tier 3 (same as u get tier 2 weps off rags). Class priorities should be warrior > paladin > everyone else but this will be docturned by your GM.
And its close to 4dps greater then ashbringer with MS factored in.
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Allakhazam
http://www.nihilum.co.uk/media/ashkandi.jpg
dropped today, gratz to Starym!111111onoenoen
Edited, Wed Nov 30 04:31:22 2005
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Allakhazam
lalala gimme! >.<
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Allakhazam
This sword seems but nothing more but a myth on my server
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Allakhazam
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?331496
Edited, Wed Mar 15 00:59:42 2006
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Allakhazam
what sword would be better,
the high warlord's sword or the ashkandi?
im talking about if both swords had crusader enchant.
Edited, Thu Mar 16 08:36:17 2006
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Allakhazam
This is a hunter weapon as much as it is a warrior weapon. Hunters use it's stats 100% of the time, same as warriors. As far as the damage and whatnot goes, hunters are forced into a deadzone more times than not where raptor strikes critting for 1300+ won't be too bad.
Bottom line, this item doesn't have a class requirment, therefore any class should be able to roll on it WHENEVER they want. Nuff said.
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Allakhazam
This is a priest weapon. Yah, look at those stats, they have healing all over it. If this went to a warrior before a priest i'd be PISSED!~!1!
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Allakhazam
I see people saying hunters dont need this cause in RAIDS they dont melee, so it should goto warrs/pally's okay.. I don't see too many warrior's 2handing swords in raids at all, and pally's well, if your using that to heal.. just /uninstall.
Now, i agree this does benefit warrior's more PvP wise and whatnot, but hunters DO use the stats (In raid and not) also i find myself meleeing more times than not, crushing a mage with a 1300-1500 Raptor strike can't be bad.
I'm happy to say i should be first to get this in my guild, cause no warriors want it, and im horde, so no pallies. Hunter asscandy dps ftw!
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Allakhazam
omfg all u stupid noobs...this weapon is for a damn hunter like the other guy said it has 84 agi and agi is what hunters r all about....dumbasses....
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Allakhazam
i dunno if this is a stupid question but...who's A.L. and "the Brotherhood"? dunno, maybe this is easily explained in lore or maybe it's just purple phat l00t but it piques my curiousity at least :P
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Allakhazam
wow i wouldnt wanna face any1 wielding this thing.it owns sulfras hands down IMO
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Allakhazam
that sword is blazing hawt id like to get my hands on that but i cant wield swords lol
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Allakhazam
Quote : Blackened is wearing a pair Lawbringer gloves, what makes him suddenly a warrior, and not a paladin?
Warriors and Paladins get the equal opportunity to roll on this sword. However, I think that paladins deserve this more than warriors because they are the ones that need help with the DPS department.
ITS NOT LAWBRINGER ITS STRONGHOLD GAUNTLETS
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Allakhazam
One word.. Nerf warrior weapons :P
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8436/sword0uf.jpg
Anyway grats to him :)
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Allakhazam
we got it on alliance side on Cenarion Circle
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Allakhazam
Got ninja's by a Pally recently...
I know I know, Pallies are melee too...
But why would you take this from a Warrior, a class devoted to either tanking, or dealing fat loads of dmg witha 2h weapon...?
Pallies are better off with something that adds like, int/spir/+mana or something
Pallies can take this sure, but only if the Arm spec'd warriors dont want it...
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Allakhazam
on my server the only people that have this sword are pallies. I saw one of them duel.....lets just say the preist,mage,warlock, and warrior he dueled wont be dueling a pally with this for quite some time plus for those of you who know who Rigg is (shes a warrior on spirestone (myserver:D)who was in a movie were you used this sword to own the hordies.i asked her if pallie could use this and she said yes)
Edited, Mon Mar 13 21:39:21 2006
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Allakhazam
Throrin (Hunter) on Burning Blade has one :)
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Allakhazam
"the initials B.M.F are etched on the blade"
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Allakhazam
as a warrior with untamed blade, i can safely say i wudnt touch this, any warrior worth his salt is in the fury tree by the time you get to Nef, (dps obviously tanks shud be prot). This weapon is a better version of Zin'Rokh, and is a hunter weapon. Any warrior with this is gna be dissapointed, unless theyre MS build, in which case theyre wasting an oppurtunity to do real dps, nuff said.
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Allakhazam
http://wow.blupp.net/item.php?id=321808
is way better in my opinion
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Allakhazam
Wow-definitely know what I'm saving my DKP for now.
Just thought I'd throw, you know, an actual comment about the item into the mix of flames and lies :D
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Allakhazam
i recently got one and its oodles of fun. only reason i picked it up instead of being complacent and enjoying my Crul was because a pally would have won it if i didnt get it. /spiteful
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Allakhazam
RE: sword spec
LOL only 5% theres a little know Talent called Savage strikes which can increase Raptor strike crits by 20%...
Anyways since the new patch this is the best weapon for a hunter Raiding imo since yes you do have to melee
***sometimes***
to get agro off the casters in despiration... last resort yes but give me a better weapon than this in a raiding aspect... ofcause this is realy just a Warrior playtoy since its best for PVP for them... again its up to the Guild's Rule's and DKP system, so like i said its just my oppinion that this can benefit a Hunter more in a Raiding aspect then any other weapon currently ingame.
Flame away
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Allakhazam
double post way to go me
Edited, Fri Sep 30 15:00:57 2005
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Allakhazam
WOW OMG this sword is the best ive seen prolly the best thing in the game right now for DPS <great for a arms/fury worrior * _ *
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Allakhazam
PS pretty sexy lookin 2 ;)
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Allakhazam
just $%^&ing awesome
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Allakhazam
I've read all these posts - imho as a warrior i would say giving it to paladin is waste of good gear... please first check warrior's talents and then whine. Paladin will never do better dammage per second with sword then warrior.
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Allakhazam
can someone that has this sword tell me where you live
so i can come and take the account from you
please
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Allakhazam
Nefarian phase 1
Whirlwind attack
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot0416062351111kq.jpg
Sorry for the messy combat text :>
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Allakhazam
ok people, the thing about the class and who should get it... well heres what i think, if you get enough dkp for it, then you earned it nuff said
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Allakhazam
How do you pronounce the name? Is it osh-kon-dye, pronounced as it looks, or something else? I know this is a pretty stupid question, but some of the possible pronunciations just sound weird.
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Allakhazam
my initials are A. L. GIEF
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Allakhazam
shaman weapon xD
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Allakhazam
A weapon is for every class that can use it unless it got int or something on it then it might not fit warriors so well. If it is a "Hunter wep" then it got a class speciffic for hunters
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Allakhazam
what is makin' this epic instead of ledgendary?
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Allakhazam
In the end how much of a pally weapon this is is obviusly not alot, +88 ap?, however A.L stand for Anduin Lothar, and he waaaasssss. a Paladin :) The Brotherhood means the Knights of the Silver Hand, which ARREEEEE Paladins, odd huh.
Edited, Sun Oct 30 22:11:55 2005
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Allakhazam
A friend of mine has this sword.(Faxanadu, Skullcrusher) He also has 7/8 Wrath. He's deadly, and cannot be killed. Ouch.
It's a nice sword.
And the whol A.L. thing.. thats funny. Ther's a friench guild on my server called Knights of the Silver Hand. Wonder if they knew? Probably.
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Allakhazam
Lothar was a knight not a paladin.
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Allakhazam
Hunter weapon, clearly.
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Allakhazam
this sword + windfury = dead
lawl thx
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Allakhazam
"This weapon is the best 2h in the game to date, its tier 3 (same as u get tier 2 weps off rags)."
*möp* ragnaros drops tier 2 legplates, nef drops tier 2 breastplate..... so why should this be tier 3? -.-°
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Allakhazam
Let the wars begin by asking this: Which is better, Ashkandi or Untamed? or We have 2 identical warriors except one with Ashkandi and another one with Untamed, who will win?
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Allakhazam
DPS warriors dream :)
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Allakhazam
"The initials A.L. are etched on the hilt."
I'm going to assume that that stands for Anduin Lothar, who we all should know is a hero from WC2.
Whats interesting is Lothas is the WC2 equivilent of a paladin, so why isn't this spected to paladin?
just casting the thought out there for people to think about, feel free to flame
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Allakhazam
HUNTER weapon
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Allakhazam
Hunter weapon
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Allakhazam
The initials A.L......... Could that mean Anduin Lothar?
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Allakhazam
If i had this thing i would own.
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Allakhazam
The stamina bonus makes this an ideal weapon for warriors and paladins in offensive builds as the increase in hit points helps offset the decrease in armor rating from not using a shield. Though hunters also recieve a significant benefits from this sword, its drop rate means that a melee class should be given priority.
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Allakhazam
No, really. +86 AP is nice for ranged damage, and equal to +86 Agility. +33 Stam is just icing on the cake. Toss a +25 Agil enchant on this and you've created the one of best hunter melee weapons in the game. Raptor Strike might as well hurt whatever it hits.
(EDIT: updated for 2.0)
Edited, Dec 26th 2006 9:03pm by SausageVendor
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Allakhazam
since when you have Nef at farm status bwl run takes 4 max 5 hours in 1 evening^^ indeed getting him to farm status takes alot time but when you got it its piece of cake :P and yes i have gf and i know what candy she is /cheers
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Allakhazam
This is Currently After patch 2.01 rated as the BEST DPS improving weopon to a hunter ..... yes better than Eye of Nerub, in that aspect.
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i179/razrok/hunterweapons.jpg
That is cause agility = 1 ap now.
However the very important thing that makes this surely less usefull for hunters in RAids is the Improved chance to hit from all the added skills to ranged from Eye of nerub. However this should not be taken lightly and its obvious that hunters have a great deal of use for it. The calcutlation i think doesnt include crit chance from agility + weopons, however in raids you dont really want a high crit chance to reduce aggro pull.
And Zin'Rok is Rated as the THIRD BEST WEOPON for hunters! Even Surpassing the Barb of The sandreaver in terms of raw base damage. And thats from the Easiest end game instance around.
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Allakhazam
r14 weapons are better for warriors now, and they are very easy to get (far easier then praying for this thing to drop anyway). Since most warriors will go for them, I think hunter's definitely have a claim to this weapon. As someone mentioned dkp is the main determinant anyways.
Also, to the ignorant people who say hunter's only need ranged weapons; Hunter's in pvp are often forced to melee, and when you do it's nice to be swinging a slow, hard hitting 2 hander to get a few heavy hits in before you can gain range again (or use melee as a finisher).
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Allakhazam
A.L stands for Anduin Lothar, a pally, so its meant for a pally, but the stats do it no justice.
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Allakhazam
Clearly a hunterweapon
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Allakhazam
For some reason a pally on Skywall by the name of Apples in the guild <Nightwind> has this...also has most of Judgement set.
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Allakhazam
Ass Candy :P
sorry just a random thought.
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Allakhazam
Our guild has about 4-5 of these O.o
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Allakhazam
My new toy, imba, just imba
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?849652
got untamed blade & zin'rokh too, kalimdor's revenge is next!
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot0409060645138es.jpg
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Allakhazam
Hunter weapon
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Allakhazam
Sulfuras hits harder than this when you get 1500 AP with B shout.. Then it's up to you to have sword spec / mace / two-handed spec.
Myself when i have that insane gear i would go for sulfuras because of the headcracking noise.
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Allakhazam
is it just my inexperince or is this a damn cool looking sword
damn my low leveliness
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Allakhazam
Anduin Lothar = WARRIOR.
Hunters = STFU.
Hunters in melee = free kills for PVP.
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Allakhazam
I wonder who "A. L." is ..
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Allakhazam
Holy!
Mortal strike with this baby! GIVE!
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Allakhazam
i want... it looks so0o0o badass too
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Allakhazam
Both Ashkandi, Greatsword of the Brotherhood and Lok'amir il Romathis dropped on our most recent Nefarian dropped for us on the server of Gurubashi.
Picture of myself, a gnome, with the sword:
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9742/dt0uf.jpg
Thanks,
Deathtap
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Allakhazam
Name Lord Anduin Lothar
Gender Male
Race Human
Character class Warrior
Affiliation The Alliance
Occupation Champion of Azeroth
not a pally you morons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anduin_Lothar
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Allakhazam
We just got it on our last nef kill, SECURITY on Dragonmaw..
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Allakhazam
What do you think guys?
Ashkandi's DPS > Thunderfury's Proc?
Or not?
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Allakhazam
Well, on our last Nefarian kill, this went to a hunter. The ony other person that wanted it got loot bugged when they got DC'd.
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Allakhazam
ok ya know what? im a pallie damn proud of it and im planning to get more than one wep and im getting this and i dont care what you say. " pallies cant use this sword outside of BWL" then prove it. and even if you do im still getting it putting icey or crusader on and im going to own some people.Nuff said
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Allakhazam
Ashkandi= 120.5 rap, .283 crit, 363 HP
That is what the ashkandi will give to a hunter who is survivalist and lightning reflexes spec'd, and assuming that the weapon has a +15 agility on it. not good. at all.
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Allakhazam
An interesting thing to note is that Thunderfury's iLevel is 80, while the iLevel of this sword (and Kalimdor's Revenge) are 81.
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Allakhazam
Very very nice sword ....but a off topic here :D:D:DD can some1 plz post that Evil Bunny thing ..... or Kill the bunny dunno :D just the one with the bunny sig ......thx ^^
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Allakhazam
This weapon wouldn't have almost as much melee DPS as Sulfuras, +4 dps on HWL weapons, and a topend that rivals the HWL weapons if it was designed for a hunter. Please and thankyou, goodbye to anyone who stands infront of an MS warrior wielding this.
Hunters, you can use it, but it'd be a huge waste. Think of it like...giving a priest Aurastone Hammer when they already have the Eye of Divinity, and the Eye of Shadow is in their mailbox.
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Allakhazam
so i'll just post my pic of it
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/1458/wowscrnshot0603060552426ds.jpg
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Allakhazam
In a fair dkp system, tanks will not be charged dkp for anything involved in TANKING. This is for this little thing called PROGRESSION! But, the catch is, in a non retarded system, they either will be charged for that gear (and if they don't go into the super negatives, won't take dps gear over others like %^&*tards) or just won't be ALLOWED to spend dkp on dps gear until everyone else has it.
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Allakhazam
warrior not only get the incredible dps and the incredible ap they also get sword spec! + 5 to double tap basically 5 extra crit! do hunters get 5 extra crit on this baby i dont think so!
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Allakhazam
As of the 2.0 update, any weapon with +Crit, +hit, +attack is going to be important for Warriors, Rogues, and Hunters. That stat bonus does not just apply to melee combat. It effects their ranged combat as well. Before 2.0, the only thing a hunter really wanted was Agility.
That has drastically changed. Any crit and attack bonuses a hunter can get their hands on is very valuable.
Now, in most raids, that sword would probably get first dibs by the warriors or rogues, but it would be unintelligent to say that it would not also benefit a hunter. Depending on who you're raiding with, I suggest you discuss with your officers before the raid whether or not a hunter gets to roll so that there is no fighting in your raid chat.
For most raiding guilds it comes down to DKP anyway, so if a hunter has the DKP, I would think he is fully entitled to bid on that sword.
So any continued arguement about this is really petty and unnecessary. Take it up with your guild, not the people on this forum.
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Allakhazam
Nefarian killed Anduin lothar, took the sword, but i don't know how the ^&*! he got therazane? a TROLL? and crul'shorukh isn't really a item of the black dragonflight. BUT, lord prestor's medallion thingy does. GL killing nefarian, he spawns a 40 mob zerg @ you meanwhile he's spamming bolts and are untargetable. then he begin's phase 2 just like onyxia, just go try it ^^
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Allakhazam
A.L. = Albus Dumbledore
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Allakhazam
A.L.
Ahunter's Loot
Can you name a better two-handed sword that begins with "Ash" for my Hunter? No, so I'm gonna roll on it.
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Allakhazam
Can some Paladin with this weapon tell me his SoC Hits and Crits with JotC and witout it on the targets.
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Allakhazam
for all you little paladins who think that Ashkandi should be changed to a pally weapon, you must be snorting some coke, or you are extremely jealous that warriors do much more damage than you, and you do nothing, you are just around for your buffs, so all paladins, suck it
gimpiest
60 warrior illidan
Edited, Sat Mar 11 10:42:11 2006
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Allakhazam
fury or arms warior weapon! better than grand marshall/ high warlord because of the attack power bonus! life steal enxhant!
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Allakhazam
Omg... Nefarian, ill come :D
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Allakhazam
47 nef kills still no candy /cry
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Allakhazam
!@#$
Lost this to the guild OT because he had more DKP
what bull*!@#
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Allakhazam
A.L - Anduin Lothar
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Allakhazam
in my friends guild this whent to a PALADIN yes i said a PALADIN i think that was the most stupid thing a guild could do. at least a hunter or a warrior or even a rogue but a paladin that just does'nt make any sence.
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Allakhazam
Its Anduin Lothar
Its talking about the Brotherhood of the Horse.
Yeah - Listening to people on Thott is.. ugh.
"HUNTER WEAPON" is spammed everywhere. Idiots.
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Allakhazam
"The initials A.L. are etched on the hilt."
If this is Anduin Lothar, then the "Brotherhood" mentioned in the name of the sword is probably referring to the Kinghts of the Silver Hand.
I'm not 100% sure about this but if someone has a better theory please share it.
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Allakhazam
Ashbringer's Holy DPS cant be wielded by any other class than a Paladin - this is what I've heard. The only classes that can wield elemental damage on weapons are classes that can actually do damage with that element. As an example, only Hunters can use the +Arcane Damage on weapons (or Mages), with another class the elemental damage just won't appear.
So if this is true, this whoops Ashbringer for all classes besides Paladins.
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Allakhazam
Warriors and Paladins get the equal opportunity to roll on this sword. However, I think that paladins deserve this more than warriors because they are the ones that need help with the DPS department.
rofl that made me laugh :D
im so glad guild im in dont use DKP or roll system :) we have our own way and it works nicely.
DKP = Greed :)
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Allakhazam
this is the most powerful sword in the game that aplayer can get(notinuding the grand marshal and highwarlord weps) can anyontell e how oftenthis drops dont give me the drop rate cause i cant make sense of it
Edited, Sat Jan 28 21:16:54 2006
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Allakhazam
Hunters think every weapon/Armor is good for them
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Allakhazam
for those who think pallies should use this or they cant mae use of this take a look at this SoC DPS chart for pallies look whats at number 3 and you'll see what i mean
Edited, Aug 2nd 2006 at 1:51pm EDT by Choasblaze
Edited, Aug 2nd 2006 at 1:48pm EDT by Choasblaze
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Allakhazam
I say this is almost as good as Ragnaros... and its not even legendary... nice
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Allakhazam
better than Sulfuras, better than Arcanite/Spinal reaper, better than ashbringer....better than everything. Only a warrior should get this item.
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Allakhazam
Grand Marshal sword is better, only 1 member of the guild can get this sword of Nefarius every 20 weeks. Lol. Don't Even dream about it. Try to hit rank 14 in pvp.
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Allakhazam
Yes thats right I (Xil) pld on Stormreaver got Ashkandi last night...
http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ashkandi2na.jpg
:P
Edited, Wed Nov 23 01:52:11 2005
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Allakhazam
something better then the overpriced Arcanite Reaper
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/467/schwert6kh.jpg
Edited, Wed Dec 28 03:05:00 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
richardthomson.customer.netspace.net.au/ash.jpg
Edited, Wed Mar 15 00:58:56 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
u know, if i get this, i might put a weapon chain on it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Thunderhorn (EU) has about 4 now, all WARRIORS! But the best thing is THEY ALL SUCK! Were did all the paladins go...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Oops.
Edited, Aug 7th 2006 at 5:21am EDT by FlasheartTheCat
评论来自
Allakhazam
Rogues? Is this some kind of sick joke? I sure hope so. Warriors, then paladins, then hunters, then others.
评论来自
Allakhazam
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Edited, May 2nd 2007 11:54am by Blizzardking
评论来自
Allakhazam
I will leave out the this is a Hunter weapon but will say as a Hunter when my guild does get this far I will have some points saved just in case my warriors get better from him. If that is even possible.. :( which probably is not.
评论来自
Allakhazam
insane sword o_0 =DD
评论来自
Allakhazam
In warcraft2 (assuming you fools played it) he was a paladin, and joined the silverhand (for a bit before he died at blackrock spire) turylan(sp?) took up his SHIELD (doesnt say @#$% about a 2hand sword) and led the armies, but, he was a knight, which in war2 were paladins not fully trained
评论来自
Allakhazam
Warrior Pvp weapon.
If hunters really want the AP they shoud go for Zin'rokh. Nobody wants it anyway.
I could say "no way pally" before 1.9, but now pvp sick retribution pallies might have a use for this, but, who would take a 31 retri pally to a Nefarian kill, that's beyond me.
评论来自
Allakhazam
one thing though you see paladins walking around with grandmarshels claymore yet no one questions that and also this sword is slightly weaker so when your saying "oh pallies wont make use of this" think about things like seal of command and reckonig so no offense but i would shut your mouth
评论来自
Allakhazam
Imo this is a high dkp player item.
评论来自
Allakhazam
One day i will find u Ashkandi...one day
评论来自
Allakhazam
all im gunna say is that this sword is so frikin seet lookin..lol...it makes me consider makin a new character..lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
You guys who say this isn't for a hunter are retarded...To them- this is 86 agility -- you morons are saying rofl melee hunter if they have this...in essence they have this cuz of the stats ( 86 attack power )
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hunter Weapon!
评论来自
Allakhazam
this 2H SWORD is for ANYONE who has trained in 2H SWORDS.
Do what you want but if your in there on my server when I am in there with my Pally to specifically get it, I will roll need without care to your stupid feelings.
sorry.
but not really...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Jesus...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Stop talking about Defias :), this is the sword that slayed medivh, the prophet, and Anduin Lothar was the 1 wielding it, the brotherhood was a small "clan" of the alliance. i think you get it.
This sword is better than Sulfuras, since it's sword spec, 86 attack power n 33 stamina, insane.. insane, indeed it's insane.
评论来自
Allakhazam
When the changes to Attack Power with Instants go live with 1.8, this would be a very close second in DPS to Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros. This sword actuallt has a higher Base DPS, though Sulfuras' higher max damage just takes the lead. This is arguably a lot easier to get, too. Single Nefarian drop vs getting 13 Golemagg Drops for the hammer.
评论来自
Allakhazam
OMG! This is the hottest weapon i have ever seen. Have to get to Nefarian to get it though, thats not easy. Still would love to have it though.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is not hunter weapon this is stam go play with your agility weapons
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
Karage on Gorgonnash (60 NE warrior) of The Kindred Outcast obtained it on December 22, 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
please tell me who gives a %^&* if you have this item
评论来自
Allakhazam
I don't see what the problem is with a paladin having this weapon. I know that if it dropped for me I would immediatly drop all of my DKP's for it. It has really nice stamine and sime awesome extra attack power for that non raiding pally.
Though I dont know how else youd get it if you are in a non raiding guild...
评论来自
Allakhazam
it drops about 6.7% of the time off Nefarian, the final boss of Blackwing Lair
评论来自
Allakhazam
Funny thing is Hand of ragnaros wud be better if it wasnt for the goddamn sword specc wich toatally changes swords DPS outcome.
Hand of Rags neither got the stats of a Legendary Item,
Greatsword (epic) has 84 AP
hand of rags (legendary) shud the nhave 130 ++
Thats just Imo. but the Blizzard ppl Seems to slack about such things anyway.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have a 60 paladin. i think they are right to it as
a melee, its a Sword all melees who can use it are right to it, that simple.
and it dont got eny "Only warrior" so all who can use can have!
<3
http://pacifistguild.org/media/upload/ashkandi2.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
Im a 20/0/31 pally, and i do fine healing in raids. Im a ret pally for pvp so i could make use of that sword when we get to BWL. If I have the dkp for it, im leading, and the warrior doesnt want it then i will spend dkp on it.
SoC crits would be insane and I could use this indeffinatly. So, unless it says 'warrior' specific weapon on it, im using it.
Sorry to all those pallys who are in guilds that wont let you play and 'actually' contribute other then cleansing. You are more usefull if you actually act like a hybrid and not a wannabe priest in plate. my 2 cents
评论来自
Allakhazam
hunter weapon
评论来自
Allakhazam
hahah this is truely a rogue weapon! hahahah ;P
评论来自
Allakhazam
jesus christ, thats an awesome pvp sword
评论来自
Allakhazam
alakazam is faking theyre trying to get us amazed that 177 ppl have killed em this is the first raid that killed em.
评论来自
Allakhazam
this item
is
better than the hand of rag, with easy
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ashkandi VS Ashbringer
GO!
the natural DPS of Ashbringer (as in, without the Holy damage) is only 74.7, against Ashkandi's 81.9. however, you really cant ignore the holy damage, boosting Ashbringer to 88.0
now, which will do more damage?
88.0 DPS with a proc of 700 fire damage
or
81.9 DPS with a +86 to attack power?
it's a close one... but i think i'd still give it to Ashbringer in terms of the DPS. i'm not factoring in weapon speed at all here.
thoughts?
Edited, Tue Oct 4 01:11:36 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
hunter weapon! >.<
评论来自
Allakhazam
Blackened is wearing a pair Lawbringer gloves, what makes him suddenly a warrior, and not a paladin?
Warriors and Paladins get the equal opportunity to roll on this sword. However, I think that paladins deserve this more than warriors because they are the ones that need help with the DPS department.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Nah, Dark edge of Insanty is better.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Wow this thing is pretty gnarly...i wouldnt want to pick a fight with someone who has this monster.
评论来自
Allakhazam
äta farfars bajs... imo
评论来自
Allakhazam
This weapon would do well in the hands of a Paladin or a Warrior. Most warriors that go on these raids are DEFENSIVE specced so they would make no use out of this weapon. The reason you see more paladins with these massive 2h weapons is because most warriors that attend BWL and gain a lot of DKP are defensive specced not arms/fury. Since there are more Arms/Fury specced warriors they don't attend as many raids because they are usually switched out so they don't earn as much DKP as a Paladin that goes. So the chances you see a Paladin with these weapons are greater then you seeing a warrior with this weapon.
Edited, Fri Mar 3 14:04:10 2006
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Allakhazam
http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/8509/ash6jy.jpg
have a lookie here
评论来自
Allakhazam
Definitely Hunter weapon
评论来自
Allakhazam
iono if this has been talked about on this wep it probly has im too lazy to read but this is a hunter wepon. add +25 agilitly. its a slow sword hte only melee hunters use are isntant casts, theres the slow factor out of the way. +86 attack power, again for hunters. this is one of thos godly wepons that is not just for a warrior PEOPLE THIS IS A HUNTER WEPON LEAVE IT FOR HUNTERS.
Iv had my rant and now hate warrios...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hunters do RANGED u no understand? this is pure warrior wep so forget your better "Raptor Strike" just face it u do RANGED this is warrior we should roll on it not u hunters oh and palys u should only get it if a warrior dnt want it
评论来自
fabi88
I am a warrior and I have an upopular opinion - this is indeed primary hunter weapon.
Because
If you are raiding hard, are you going to give it to warrior just so that they can split more skulls in PVP? NO. You want to boost your raid dps as much as possible for smooth runs. So you give it rather to a hunter, who will be using it in raids.
Only when all hunters have it or better - then you can give it to warrs so that they can have fun in PVP.
评论来自
Pikseh
In terms of raw stats, this weapon is subpar for a hunter - you gain more crit and attack power by using 2 x
Bone Slicing Hatchet
with +15 agility enchanted on both.
However, due to the so-called
Melee Weaving
playstyle that was discovered and popularized on private servers in recent years, using big meaty 2H weapons can be very beneficial to hunters, and can quite easily net you more dps than using "stat sticks" and just doing your ranged rotation from a distance. This playstyle, while a little trickier to pull off in Classic wow due to how batching has been implemented, still gives great results, and a min-maxing guild should consider giving this sword to a hunter.
In fact, since dual-wielding is widely accepted as the best way to go about maximizing your dps as a warrior in PvE scenarios, a knowledgeable warrior would never have a particular need of this weapon in PvE (with the small caveat that 2handers are slightly better for doing aoe dps on trash mobs).
A reasonable way of setting up a priority system on this item, if your guild uses a loot council, would be
1: A hunter who has shown that they are capable of and willing to melee weave successfully
2: A warrior/paladin who has shown that they are currently ranking seriously (like rank 10+) but haven't quite hit rank 14 yet and don't already have
Bonereaver's Edge
3: Free for all
The reason being that a warrior will not add dps to the raid by getting Ashkandi, as dual-wielding virtually anything in combination with
Edgemaster's Handguards
if you are non-orc/non-human will give you higher dps, whereas a melee weaving hunter
will
increase their dps by obtaining this weapon. But if none of your hunters are interested in melee weaving, then this should be free for all with a slight upside to warriors and paladins, as this weapon is very strong for PvP for both warriors, paladins and hunters.
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