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Best Subtlety Rogue Talent Tree Builds - Dragonflight 10.2.6
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Here are all the best Subtlety Rogue Talent Tree builds in the for both raids and Mythic+, which includes export links to transfer these builds directly into the game quickly.
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This article is currently updated and maintained by Fuu. A Rogue Theorycrafter since Legion with the main focus on Subtlety. I am also part of the
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Best Subtlety Rogue Talent Import Codes
The import codes below give quick access to four strong talent build options you can choose depending on content and preferred playstyle. Use the Copy Button to generate import codes you can import in game.
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Import Codes
Raid Build - Dark Brew
Mythic+ Build - Burst
How to Import Talent Loadouts
Subtlety Rogue Class tree variations
General:
The Class Tree saw major changes in Season 3 and ended up with fewer choices between utility and damage nodes, but also comes with the downside of losing access to
杂耍打击
in many talent builds.
This section highlights combinations with minimal damage losses and can be used to get access to the quality of life improvements of higher melee range.
Luckily, resource nodes like
精力
and
菊花茶
end up less relevant as a consequence of strong resource generating talents in the Subtlety Tree on single target at least.
This opens up the chance to skip both nodes in favor of combinations with
杂耍打击
.
冷血
would be my preferred choice between
冷血
and
申斥回响
because it can be easily put in a macro with
影分身
and requires less attention.
申斥回响
is not a terrible choice but it takes more effort to keep track of the anima charges and is annoying to play around with the reworked
暗影技巧
and
暗影之刃
.
The additional energy buffer from
精力
feels very good and is definitely needed in mythic+.
My suggestion would be to go with the "Recommended Choice" setup as a baseline and only switch to
杂耍打击
on specific encounters you are able to utilize the extra range.
Two charges of
暗影步
and the lower cooldown and extended duration on
疾跑
from
强化疾跑
and
轻若鸿毛
seemed good enough to run without
杂耍打击
.
Tree Variations:
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Subtlety Rogue Raid Talent Build
General:
A big deciding factor for talent choices will be boss timings. Talent combinations without
提神影尘
end up with a roughly two minute burst cycle. This aligns very well with vulnerability phases on bosses and two minute trinket timings.
Season 3 offering multiple strong 2 minute cooldown trinkets makes this the generally preferred choice.
The cooldown reduction from
提神影尘
works fairly well with the high amount of cooldowns we have and can guarantee extra uses of defensive/utility spells.
The option to pick up one or two nodes of
提神影尘
can be a good tool to fine-tune cooldown timings for encounters.
腐化印记
could end up as a valid option if running the Season 2 two-set tier set bonus, but the item level gap between Season 2 and Season 3 should quickly make this option irrelevant.
In general it is advised to adjust talents depending on encounter and to use simulations to find the best talent setup.
Tree Variations:
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Subtlety Rogue Mythic+ Talent Builds
General:
Subtlety Rogues AoE and Cleave were nerfed in 10.2 noticeably. This resulted in a priority shift, the burst build emphasizes on cooldown management and using your cooldown at the right times.
The mentioned build is fairly hard to execute, there is a lot of cooldown and energy management involved. The regular Dust build plays with
菊花茶
and
精力
, both resulting in more comfortable energy management. A good tip if you start out playing Subtlety is to use most cooldowns if possible and only make sure to line up
狂热鞭笞
and
暗影之刃
, optimizations will come naturally over time, and a common mistake when starting is to feel obligated to wait with your cooldowns for the correct moment. This can be prevented with an aggressive approach.
The
玄黑秘酿
build is a relatively new talent build popular in high mythic plus dungeons. It is easier to play due to the lack of
提神影尘
and frees up
消失
for defensive use.
赤喉之咬
is typically used to help with energy management when using two
暗影之舞
charges during
暗影之刃
. Switching
赤喉之咬
to
暗影集中
is a good option to reduce the button count without losing the benefits.
Tree Variations:
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评论
评论来自
Neuroxic
Current itteration of simc nightly build for 8.0.1 seems to indicate SF/ES is better than NS/DS
评论来自
Prophethood
I have qualms with Adaptation as being listed as the to-go option for your first row. As a rogue who wpvps quite a bit, you know all it takes is a sap to see if someone is running Adaptation and once it insta-procs you can go hard out on them with no worries of them trinketing anything.
On-use trinket is (usually) the go to option so you can trinket WHEN NEEDED. Sometimes it's better to sit in a long cc while you're planning your counter.
Just think: Sap/Poly/etc>Adaptation proc>insta-reapplication>no trinket option anymore. We're rogues, we can't live for very long on our own. It's use your cds extremely carefully and know what you're fighting, or die.
评论来自
Loare
It would be really appreciated it if the rogue guides could add more detail regarding talent choices. If you look at other talent guides, they normally compare the talents to each other in a description below all three. They emphasize when to pick certain talents
over others
, rather than briefly describing them in a vacuum like it's done here.
For example, why would I want to pick Gloomblade in the first place? Are there high-armor targets / backstab restrictions I want to work around? Doesn't Find Weakness also have synergy with Enveloping Shadows? The guide would really benefit from some more depth.
评论来自
TPPM
I don't know about Subtlety not being good for PvE, I play PvE solo and one of my favorite moves for Rogues is Shadow Dance, which only Subtlety have. As long as I can face mobs one-on-one.
评论来自
Zizz
lil bro put a point in shadow techniques instead of options like finality or stiletto staccato
评论来自
PoppaPeanut
Imo it's better to get rid of Blind in favor of Recuperator and Graceful Guile. How often is one using blind in mythic/raids compared to needing more protection from AoE and some healing?
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