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1.	收割者戈提克
2.	惊喜连连
3.	伺机待发
4.	炮轰圣光哨站
5.	死亡裂口大捷！
6.	巫妖王的意志
7.	追忆墓穴
8.	无路可逃，无处可藏
9.	说服者

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血色领地为巫妖王而战符文之剑符文熔铸：战争的准备无尽的饥渴阿彻鲁斯之眼天降厄运天灾的力量鲜血、冰霜与邪恶的力量向天灾指挥官萨拉诺尔报到血色收割混乱战车，苦痛驭之阿彻鲁斯战马进入暗影界今夜，我们在海文郡欢宴！被遗弃的信件死亡的挑战收割者戈提克惊喜连连伺机待发炮轰圣光哨站死亡裂口大捷！巫妖王的意志追忆墓穴无路可逃，无处可藏羊入虎口药剂师的要求诺斯的特殊药剂说服者深入血色敌后十字军的巡逻路线死亡骑士的兄弟情谊杀出一条血路复仇的呐喊！特殊的怜悯特殊的怜悯特殊的怜悯特殊的怜悯特殊的怜悯特殊的怜悯特殊的怜悯一份特殊的惊喜特殊的怜悯特殊的怜悯特殊的怜悯一份特殊的惊喜欢迎回家悬崖伏击命运的交汇点血色先锋军血色十字军进犯…… 血色十字军的末日万物的终结…… 巫妖王的命令黎明之光夺回阿彻鲁斯黑锋要塞之战王者之城萨鲁法尔的祝福

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评论来自 20641

Equip Keleseth's Persuaders in both hands and keep beating on Scarlet mobs until one of them finally tells you about the Crimson Dawn.

评论来自 Thurnee

This quest's name refrences the book How to Win Friends and Influence People as well as a film based on a memoir whose name is a play on words of the name of the original book. (How to Lose Friends and Alienate People)

评论来自 Jessikka

Next Quest: Behind Scarlet Lines

评论来自 99801

took me about 5 mobs to kill

评论来自 180985

It took me 35 minutes to complete this quest... not fun at all.

评论来自 Shenlong

I suggest just using moves that count as weapon strikes, such as Scourge/Blood/Death Strike. Spells like Icy Touch and Death Coil don't count towards hits with the poker, so all you're doing is killing the mobs faster.

评论来自 Werlwind

Took me one Scarlet Commander :)

Randomness ftw

评论来自 240649

Best way to do this quest, is to only auto-attack. Be ready to stop attacking once the persuasion symbol appears (Mob is stunned).
If no result after it times out, start auto-attacking again.

评论来自 6665

Don't forget to equip your 2 hand weapon after your done with the quest or you be wondering like me whats going on when you try to attack other mobs LOL ;-)

评论来自 jason15ju

has anyone else noticed how the "swords" actualy look like hot pokers... reference to the old fashioned torture techniques used to make people talk perhaps?

评论来自 205110

This does take a while, don't worry, keep going.

评论来自 222832

This quest is soo much wanna be that torturer boss in sm gy xD

评论来自 Thorhoof

Ok this quest is BS! Took me over 30 minutes to complete. Be sure to only auto-swing, as others suggest.

评论来自 236322

wow i got hem to tell me on my 4th hit

评论来自 246005

Make sure you do this away from the zombie NPCs, the first time I go an answer, the zombies killed my target before I could complete the quest. It took me around 20 more kills to complete. Quite frustrating.

评论来自 tumbirs

Me and my friend got this done almost the same way.

We attacked priests in dual-wield and for me it was the male priest cuz am female and for my friend it was the female priest as he was male. (odd but funny)

评论来自 221774

it have taken me about 150 kills and im still not done :P i dont know if im doing any wrong...

评论来自 235696

the best thing i can say is just auto attack

took me like five or six(must be lucky)

评论来自 pr0found

Since noone is actually specific as to Which scarlet soldiers to interrogate, you wanna be at Scarlet Hold. 60,68 ;]

评论来自 117596

I got this in one try, just equip the swords given (duel-wield) and just auto-attack until they confess. Make sure your attacking a higher lvl scarlet not the lowbies.

评论来自 248020

just so u all know its the scarlet crusaders that u have to talk too to get it on the first try or it was mine at least the quest does say scarlet crusaders

评论来自 247440

Took me about 56 mobs before getting one to talk. Make sure both swords are equiped to increase your chances of a mob speaking.

评论来自 235401

funniest quest ever!

评论来自 242645

I am starting to believe that those mobs doesn't really know the truth about crimson dawn.

评论来自 178350

I killed about 20 preachers and a handful of marksmen. The one that finally talked to me was a "Scarlet Crusader".

评论来自 256460

yay got it on first kill ^-^

评论来自 123447

Funny fact, a mob said i was hitting like a girl...

Note that i was playing a Night Elf Female :+

评论来自 277508

"Crimson Dawn" is an allusion to "Red Dawn."

评论来自 133783

1. Attacking anything "Scarlet" will work.
2. Auto attack - make sure you have the swords equiped.
3. Took me two kills, shouldn't take you anymore than that.

评论来自 284280

I think theres a trick with getting this quicker
i just auto attacked and the mob got stunned like 4 times.. maby itl work if u get a big number of stuns on him.

评论来自 Chariot

You say: I'll tear the secrets from your soul! Tell me about the "Crimson Dawn" and your life may be spared!
You say: Tell me what you know about "Crimson Dawn" or the beatings will continue!
You say: I'm through being courteous with your kind, human! What is the "Crimson Dawn?"
You say: Is your life worth so little? Just tell me what I need to know about "Crimson Dawn" and I'll end your suffering quickly.
You say: I can keep this up for a very long time, Scarlet dog! Tell me about the "Crimson Dawn!"
You say: What is the "Crimson Dawn?"
You say: "Crimson Dawn!" What is it! Speak!
Crusader says: You'll be hanging in the gallows shortly, Scourge fiend!
Crusader says: You'll have to kill me, monster! I will tell you NOTHING!
Crusader says: You hit like a girl. Honestly. Is that the best you can do?
Crusader says: ARGH! You burned my last good tabard!
Crusader says: Argh... The pain... The pain is almost as unbearable as the lashings I received in grammar school when I was but a child.
Crusader says: I used to work for Grand Inquisitor Isillien! Your idea of pain is a normal mid-afternoon for me!

If you should break the crusader:
Crusader says: I'll tell you everything! STOP! PLEASE!
Crusader says: We... We have only been told that the "Crimson Dawn" is an awakening. You see, the Light speaks to the High General. It is the Light...
Crusader says: The Light that guides us. The movement was set in motion before you came... We... We do as we are told. It is what must be done.
Crusader says: I know very little else... The High General chooses who may go and who must stay behind. There's nothing else... You must believe me!
You say: LIES! The pain you are about to endure will be talked about for years to come!
Crusader says: NO! PLEASE! There is one more thing that I forgot to mention... A courier comes soon... From Hearthglen. It...
Scarlet Preacher dies from the torture.

评论来自 250428

Not sure if this was the case, but i was bored and i went and runegraved them and it took bloody forever to get one to talk. On another DK i made, i got it on the first one.

评论来自 180926

lol, I only had to kill 4 mobs and the 5th one told me.
it took me around 3 minutes or something.

评论来自 Thrakin

A good tip for this Q is to locate 'Scarlet Lord Jesseriah McCree' and wait for him to attack the ghouls. They'll tank him (but never kill him, he has loads of HP) and you can keep autoattacking him without having to switch mobs when they die. Should you run out of ghouls, you'll be able to survive easily; If needed, use one of the Runic Power + Health pots from The Plaguebringer's Request.

评论来自 242012

I have went through 70.....got a epic weapon but still haven't got it yet

评论来自 303387

70 kills? this is nothing! the thing i've understanded is that u have ti be in killing spree and not stop having kills even not for 1 min just kill fast..... i killed more than 100 the first time but 23 with the 2nd deathknight(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##Thulm##DELIM##

评论来自 311279

Best way I've found to do this is to take off all your gear except the pokers and then just auto attack. You will do much less damage so the mob lives a lot longer in order to get off more stuns and chances for them to cave and complete the quest for you.

Also, as of 3.0.8, it seems that if you have multiple mobs on you and one of them completes the quest it bugs and kicks you off the server.

评论来自 299568

Most annoying quest ever. Despite it being fun to interrogate people, the amount of times you may end up doing it is ridiculous.

On my first DK, I spent about 20 mins doing it and just today on my second, I spent about an hour trying to get it. But I guess I can't complain, at least we dont have to deal with murloc's (*mumbles* I hate murloc's)

评论来自 Megakiller

Guys i REALY NEED HELP SOS!First i killed like 600 hundret times everyone in that villige and nothing.... :@ i realy need help

评论来自 LuthofDS

I have found out that if you first hit a Scarlet Crusader with your normal 2hand weapon (not sure if you need to, but i used plague strike) and then switch to the 2 1hand quest items, the Crusader ALWAYS tells you what you need to know immediatly. Just my 2 cents.

评论来自 Megakiller

Not working... :(

评论来自 Lmjkdd6

Yeah, it's really random which one will tell you the info. On my DK I got it on my first kill but my brother took over 50 kills.

评论来自 189687

This quest is more painful to me than it is to the scarlet crusade.

评论来自 Necrogenic

Well then. Mob #178 finally decided to cave in and give me the information. Ridiculous.

Forced grinding ftl.

评论来自 338095

I got the confession on literally the first strike. Pull out my pokers, one hit on a Scarlet Commander and done. I was amazed, because I knew this usually took a few dozen kills of mindless autoattack to achieve.

Right before the last text line, a pack of ghouls came and killed him.

Was 39 mobs before I got another confession.

评论来自 267194

Chariot,Not to beall up in ur face but u missed a message that ur Dk says when ur torturing the enemy, cant remeber how it goes but this is what i remember,

YouSay: Tell me what i want to know scarlet dog or ill tear out ur spine with my bare hands!

Awesomest message of all the things ur dk says when ur torturing the enemy

评论来自 350240

is this really the last quest you can work for the lich king and the scourge is friendly? i mean come on the has to be another quest. I hope blizzard adds more quest so you can work for the lich king. =D

评论来自 353380

Last time I Tortured em for 15 minutes now I got it from first mob, realy simple Quest

评论来自 357693

I got it on my second kill. I killed a scarlet preacher.

评论来自 Sleutel

Scarlet Preacher: You hit like a girl. Honestly. Is that the best you can do?
Scarlet Preacher: Look out! There's a bee on the loose and it's on a stinging rampage!

评论来自 240252

While the randomness is indeed annoying, I enjoy this quest for the simple fact that I can grind xp with very little effort and still finish a quest eventually. I will admit I was pleased the first 3 or 4 times I did this quest, I finished on the first mob. Today, it's taking far more kills than I like. Still, easy xp (I stop to heal about once every 5 mobs or so), easy silver, and every once in a while a green drop.

Crappy quest design, to be sure, but worth it in the end.

And does anyone else enjoy the sheer irony of a scarlet preacher spilling the beans?

评论来自 363535

3.0.9 i made 96 kills and still nothing

评论来自 trillz

My first DK I did this quest equipped 1 sword got it first try.

Made another on friends server since im not xferring my main there, have 2 equipped took 30mins+

sigh.

评论来自 Kalthanis

Every time I've done this quest (2 or 3 times) I've got it first mob, every time.

Sucks for you guys ;P

评论来自 25970

Completing this quest is the real torture.

评论来自 161672

i grinded out like 2 levels then leveled once i turned in the quest.
it takes a very long time.

评论来自 329920

Few things to note for this quest.
1. Auto attacking is the way to go.
2. It seems as thou the weapons have a internal cooldown. this of course meaning it will only work again after a set amount of time.
3 After many attempts i narrowed it down to about 5-9 secs internal cooldown.

Because of this, i found the best way to do this quest is get a mob and begin autoattacking, the moment it procs. hit your esc key to stop attacking..if it didnt work start counting from the moment it was applied to the mob. and hit again, this way you do get alot of white damage and kill the mob. it will proc off the bat again. continue this till it tell you what u want to know. Simple as that:) killed 30-40 mobs before noticing it had a CD on it. and then just had one mob and did no damage to it. got it to spill the beans:) GL

评论来自 292040

First time I did this quest, it took me about 100 skills. If it just was a "normal" quest, it would be smart to just skip it, but since you need it to get the follow-ups, that's not an option. So, put on music, and start farming! ;)

评论来自 Assassin007

This can go great when getting Crusaders Skulls because you can end up with Noth's Special Brew.

评论来自 363376

lol, at the first strike the mob started talking

评论来自 Mymloch

"highly effective" my ass

评论来自 15939

I think the swords have an internal cooldown on the proc. If this is true, the best way to get many more stuns on one mob (and increase your chances of confession per mob) is to stop auto-attacking once you see the stun, then back away. Wait at least 5 seconds after the stun wears off before you begin attacking again.

评论来自 418114

Got this after about 9 kills, pretty easy :)

评论来自 boniu

its a fun parody film : How to lose friend and aliente people" ;p

评论来自 Athena84

This is how I dit it.. I equipped the 2 weapons and unequipped the rest of my gear, this way you have more time to torture the mob. I started hitting the melee ones, the third one was one on a horse... I got it fast.

评论来自 434466

First Npc, Objective Completed :)

评论来自 433468

OMFG i am like the luckiest of all i only killed 3 and he told me it the 3rd that was omg lucky normally you take 50 and mnow here 3 (btw i only used auto attack no other) yess i am lucky ^^

评论来自 481816

Oddly, I'd killed what feels like at least dozens of Scarlet, went here for some advice, stripped down to just the pokers in order to do less damage -- and the next two hits *both* caused jibbering confessions rather then complaints that I was doing *too little* damage. I can't think why that'd be other then a bug, but it worked...

评论来自 Zaratje

Almost all DK quests give extra talent points. Nothing special with it...

评论来自 jeian7

Sigh.

So there I was, on my 50th or so Scarlet, and finally one of them decides to talk. While I'm listening to him, ANOTHER Scarlet notices me and comes over to rough me up a bit. I've already got one of them talking to me, I figure I don't need another, so I opt to kill him as quickly as I can. Well, on the FIRST PROC, the guy breaks down and decides to tell me everything.

So basically I killed about fifty guys, then got two in a row to talk.

Frickin' RNG. >:[

评论来自 Kelthurin

Well after hitting the mob with the 2h and then with the 2 1 handed weps it finally worked! Thank you guys!

评论来自 Zenodice

Confirming this is random, I got it on my first attack and only had to hit a crusader once to get the right dialog (They will say, Stop I'll tell you everything".

Meanwhile my girlfriend was right beside me on her DK and it took her 20+ kills.

So yeah, if you don't get it right away, don't give up, it may just take awhile (i'd do nothing but auto attack just in case that influences it somehow).

RNG is awesome!

评论来自 329758

The easiest and fastest way to do this is to blood strike them once, and stop attacking. Once the smoke goes away, blood strike again. Rinse, repeat.
Blood strike immediately causes the questioning effect.

评论来自 353888

It's really just random on whether you get the info on certain hits or not. My advice:
When they are stunned STOP ATTACKING. You get a lot more hits in that way, thus a larger chance for them to speak.
Goodluck! (You'll need it!) >.<

评论来自 353888

Also: I just remembered, this does NOT work on citizans. Don't try it, because it will NOT work.

评论来自 500067

this quest is so annoying one time i killed people and then one was about to talk but then a ghoul from the gate came in and killed him..... watch out for the ghouls that come in.

评论来自 558249

Has anyone killed so many scarlet crusaders that by the time you can finally turned in the quest that youve leveled so much the quest is gray to you? It seems possible...

评论来自 Elvage

What I've done is equip one of the swords and hit the mob once he talks wait another 5 seconds without attacking and then attack again and it should do it instantly and repeat the method.

评论来自 Zalmiak

82 crusaders before one of them told me, god i hate this quest..

评论来自 nonentity

Damn I #$%^ing hate this quest. I've been killing a metric #$%^ ton of Scarlets now ... nothing... (using the pokers of course).

Funny thing is... the quest gets harder the longer you do it. You skill up 1-Hand swords, thus hit more often, do more damage, kill them faster, have to find new targets faster instead of whacking on one for quite a while.

评论来自 321609

"I'll tear the secrets from your soul!"

Is anyone else reminded of a certain interrogator?

评论来自 nick5454

Ok guys did it on 3rd kill.

Here's what happened at the gate with ghouls wached on 2 horses guys. nothing bu defiance.

I'm almost dead (20%) so the last one I icy frist, ds, ss, and run then turn around icy him once more and he spills the beans. He his now at the end of the gate next to the crytp where this starts.

sounds like a way to glitch it.

i done, but good info.

Nick

评论来自 561706

Here goes my 100th kill...

评论来自 561706

Secret: Hit em when he gets stunned turn around for 10 secs without attacking then do it
again rince repeat

评论来自 172144

If you are in a group and someone else gets a confession proc, you will not get credit for this quest. You must land the proc for the confession to count.

评论来自 sinistar

Auto-attack is win on this quest. I was being stupid, had the swords equipped but using my normal rotation, and it was taking a looong time. I came to look here for advice, and on my next try, which I used just auto-attack, I got the confession.

评论来自 303818

This advise from ccjn4ever is as valid as ever.

It took me just two kills using this method. You can literally almost predict when the "Persuading Strikes" procs and instantly hit escape to stop attacking then wait for 3 relatively weak hits from the target and start hitting him again waiting to immediately press escape and so on.

评论来自 734984

Man it just took me 3 mobs to get it....ROFL!What luck!

评论来自 Thallox

This is one of the most annoying questes in the game!

评论来自 scpovey

The guys that are carrying the staffs turned out to be far more likely to give the information. That was in my case, anyway. Try it, it's worth it aint it? I know you're reading this because you've killed 500 and still no-go. Try it.

评论来自 808403

Lol I got the info with the first one!

评论来自 Melilithia

Me: "Augh I hate the priests.. they do uber amounts of damage... I'm going to stay away from them."

*later*

"FINE! I'll go interrogate a damn priest!"

*gets quest credit*

:|

评论来自 232934

This quest took me roughly 20-25 kills, as of 6/13/2011.

评论来自 663308

Actually, they say "I know very litte else". Atleast he did when i finally persuaded him. I miss an 'L' there...

评论来自 MiltiadesBooga

The san'layn are proof that Arthas is a pervy elf fancier. (Not that I blame him.)

...Man, leave it to a sin'dorei noble to put his pointy stabbing sticks in a very pretty box. wtflol, Keleseth.

评论来自 pikapril25

I anticipated it taking a long time since you all said so. It took me two tries. :)

评论来自 877454

I Killed about.... 26 of these Scarlet People... Was annoying.

评论来自 877454

"Highly." effective? More like A low chance of convincing the Scarlet "Defender to even Think..".

评论来自 glycereth

It's actually better to use just 1 of the 2 blades instead of dualwielding them.

Also, stop attacking once the mob gets the debuff, let him talk, and start whacking again, you'd get 3 chances per mob that way, or 4 sometimes, as you aren't killing it too quickly.

This is to minimize the amount of time running around for new mobs.

评论来自 832911

Consider this:

If you are anything like me, you will want to get as many of the pots as possible, because, well, 50 RUNIC POWAH! This means you need 90 crusader skulls total. I'dmuch rather end up getting them while doing this quest, than just grinding for them. Seems more fulfilling that way.

评论来自 Silent1fd

"Highly Effective" my furry blue tooshie! - Worgen Freeman

Srsly blizz this quest has taken me over an hour, with dw pokers not a single confession!

评论来自 zarbuchan

This is easily the worst quest in the game since they got rid of Call of Water :T

评论来自 38308

Since this isn't mentioned...

This appears to only proc from the MH. You can unequip the OH and the mobs will live a little longer.

评论来自 Slan1011

Incredibly confusing or just broken, again ... I take there's supposed to be something called a poker or pokers? Where is it? How do you find that item and equipped it?

评论来自 758979

I think I have the solution.

When you attack a scarlet, hit him until he get stunned. Then stop attacking! This is very important else you will kill him in no time.

when he starts attacking you again, fight back until the next stun. Continue this and about the 3rd time he will talk.

so the solution is: when the scarlet got stunned by your daggers, stop attacking else you will kill him to quick.

评论来自 901239

This quest was always the most annoying DK starting quest. Always took me over 10+ kills. Never complained because while 10+ is annoying, it is not broken.

With my new DK, however, this is not the case. I don't know how many I've killed. I think the best way to describe it is "all of them." That's right, I've killed every single crusader in the immediate town square, in the buildings, every single one of them.

Yes, they respawn, but it's the principle of the thing.

This is ridiculous. Doesn't Blizz know how to code a "Base it on RNG until x attempts, then make it happen" for crap like this?

评论来自 Goddessa39

I was all going along, minding my own business and auto attacking he scarlet commanders. Iwas gettin annoyed because it was taking so long. So there I was with a SC at half health, and then I get attacked by one on a horse. Just as that dude comes over to attack, the SC I was attacking in the fist place bowed down and began to give the info up. Then the SC that was on the horse bows down. It was kind of funny, two SCs couging up their guts to me.

Feel the power!

评论来自 axel1989

kill kill kill kill!

评论来自 909745

'You..You will get nothing...And like it..

over 100 kills right now ._.

评论来自 Simplink

I accidently aggroed http://www.wowhead.com/npc=28964#objective-of which you see running around on his horse around the yard and ran away from it to the quest giver, but it still kept following me.
So the Crypt Guardians attacked him and took aggro of him and I could just beat him down and take the guest that way since he has a lot of health and wont die from the sticks so easily.
Just a tip :)

评论来自 PanzersSkywall

4.3 (24 June 2012)

Ok this was getting annoying after 50+ kills. I'm wearing full strength BOA so I think my issue was killing to quick.

I unequip OH and only kept one of those torturing weapon in the MH. Started beating on a scarlet mob (preacher in that case but I don't think it matters).

AS SOON AS THE STUN PROCS, STOP ATTACKING! I'd just do a quick 180 and wait for the stun to wear off, then auto-attack the mob again. Got like 4 procs then the mob gave up!

Hope this helps!

评论来自 bambambambam

Hats off to those who have broken down the most efficient methods to obtain the quest information, but honestly, I personally don't see what the fuss is about. People saying they killed "50" NPCs seems a bit exaggerated, similar to those who "never win" BGs. If you haven't already silently raged and down-voted me, please read on for my perspective on this quest, and perhaps it will lessen the apparent AGONY people find in completing this lulz-easy quest.

Just kill 'em. Forget the internal CDs that people have noticed, and all the "white damage" bother. Just farm these guys. They give exp, cloth, greens (some of 'em decent/rare xmogs), and CRUSADER SKULLS. On every DK I roll, and I've rolled many across various servers, I farm those skulls til I can have a full stack of "Rage Pots" for use in both PvP and PvE. This is what I do on my DKs, and I can tell you, I have NEVER had to kill "50" mobs to get the info. I just DPS the hell out of 'em, collect my loots, and wait for the quest requisite.

Happy rofl-stomping.

Years Later Edit:

So yeah, Persuasive Strike has a 10s internal CD. So if you really need to kill as few mobs as possible, your best bet is to white attack > stop attack > count to 10 > repeat. I find that lame, though, and stand by my initial advice. I've found some awesome xmog greens/rares farming these mobs.

评论来自 835790

If your like me the pretty little box goes in your bag. You open it up and it gives you the poking sticks. Then click on them and they'll swap with your rune blade. Walk around. When a scarlet attacks hit one and you're good :) I had some trouble figuring this all out and my first two attempts were just straight kills. 3rd attempt was the charm.(##RESPBREAK##)16##DELIM##asakawa##DELIM##

评论来自 892035

maybe i was really in luck.. but at the first scarlet mob, he told me... auto atack and keep reding.. when he says something about i'l tell, hit escape...

评论来自 Farzeer

Scarlet Marksman says: Argh... The pain... The pain is almost as unbearable as the lashings I received in grammar school when I was but a child.

You say: Tell me what you know about "Crimson Dawn" or the beatings will continue!

Scarlet Marksman says: You know nothing of pain, monster!

Lolwut?

评论来自 1025083

Lol i was at the 30 kill mark or so and i was starting to get a bit discouraged i almost gave up but i decided to kill one more person it was a commander i started attacking him and all the sudden it stopped i didnt know what was going on and i read what he was saying realizing i just finished I recommend Killing Commanders because i went on for about 10 minutes slaying random Mages and Guards with no luck of completing the quest I killed 1 commander and finished I hope this helps

评论来自 593231

Kill them slowly. Wait till your DK asks about the Crimson Dawn and then stop attacking until the mob says something, if he doesn't tell you what you want to know, hit him again and then stop attacking. Rinse and repeat.

评论来自 zolyisback

This quest can be beyond frustrating. >.< Went through about 15 or so before I decided to look it up, read some comments about how irritating it could be, tabbed back in to WoW, first hit on the next Scarlet pig and he squealed. xD

评论来自 Vexikuri

Super lucky, got the answer on the first mob I attacked.

评论来自 1109767

Personally i had to kill around 60 scarlet crusaders, i changed to only main hand and got it first try. Most likely a coincidence, but you do less dps so they die slower. Sadistic but effective.

评论来自 1113037

It seems that reading the comments on this page is the best way to get them to confess...

Killed about 50. Read the comments. Hit one. They confessed.

评论来自 929975

I grow tired of these games, Blizzard! Tell me the truth about the Crimson Dawn!

评论来自 Turpentine

Over the past few expansions since Wrath, I've leveled about 5 DKs and this time the quest completed after the 5th kill. Usually it took a whole bunch more like all the other posts suggest.

评论来自 1131287

Revealed the secret from the first mob i tortured

评论来自 bigworm2

just tried with one blade after doing countless mobs with both blades: no difference. Tried stopping after scarlet mob got debuff several times to no avail. kept going until suddenly one mob gives up the info after getting hit a few times after getting deathgripped (like soooo many mobs before it)

评论来自 lehearts

Goal: Try to get as many poison procs as possible while delaying NPC's death, so they have a chance to speak or get persuaded.

1. Equip daggers
2. Attack NPC
3. Wait for poison to proc (NPC will start smoking)
4. Upon proc, stop attacking / turn away.
5. When they regain normalcy, let poison proc again and repeat.

评论来自 FixManTx

1. Equip the daggers you get from the box.
2. Auto-attack a mob
3. Watch chat and when your character asks the mob a question, stop attacking
4. If the mob talks crap and keeps/resumes attacking, auto-attack again..rinse and repeat
5. If the mob begs you to stop so they can confess, stop attacking, they'll confess then die. Easy peasy

It's possible they might die before confessing..if so, repeat the above on another mob

The thing to remember, like others have said, is don't use your main abilities or you'll kill them before they have a chance to confess. They don't hit very hard so just use auto-attack with the daggers equipped.

评论来自 Powernap

After failing to get any info from the normal scarlet mobs, I tried the persuaders on Scarlet Lord Jesseriah McCree and I completed the quest!

评论来自 1227489

Killed about 5... then got it. :)

评论来自 SoooWhoCares

They could at the very least have added increasing chances. Had to autoattack 7 (!) NPCs from 100% to 0%... AFKing while I could literally just wait and regenate afterwards... Waiting game...

评论来自 1139463

I think i found a method to this madness, I have leveled many dks around 6ish and every time i get a broken crusader its on the first hit, now this does not mean the frist crusader, after like 10 or so kills i get one that will talk. So what I am saying is that if they don't break fast just kill them and move on to the next, auto attacking 1 for days just never worked for me. I find if they say something like "this tickles, or you hit like a girl" just kill them and move to the next. This could be just rng but its always the first hit that tells me if they will break so i suggest that you don't waste your time auto attacking one. Hope this helps

评论来自 kingmarty

If you're wearing heirlooms take off the helm and chest. Isolate the target, then melee hit target till he gets the debuff. Turn around then after he talks, melee him again to apply the de-buff. Rinse and repeat. Or you can also try pull as much as possible and just read what they say. Sometimes the text they say can indicate if they are weaklings, that cant take the supposed tickling these "persuaders." are capable of.

评论来自 yasiin

Clearly auto attack is best for reasons mentioned above. Took about 40mobs before i came here for help, I'd like to say the "auto attack > proc > stop attack > win" method works flawlessly but it kinda maybe doesn't. I dunno it ended up working but took another 5-6 mobs and didn't really change what I was doing.

评论来自 1271508

Having full heirlooms on will cause the target to die before he can talk. I removed a couple heirloom pieces and it worked on first mob.

评论来自 Wyr3d

As of 6.0.2, only Frost DK can dual wield, so I am curious as to how the other two specialisations will fare in this quest now. I recall the damage dealt is low enough with both brands.

While it's true that killing the mob is not the goal of the quest, typically you have to cull a fair few of them before you luck out with one who will actually talk.

评论来自 864555

I don't know about other specs, but I chose the blood spec before I started questing on my DK, and I couldn't equip both weapons for this quest since I can't dual-wield.

评论来自 1411532

I was able to do this today (20th December 2014) with only one sword equipped. I can't dual weild. I had auto attack on but was not just using it.

评论来自 Arts

Whelp. Tried about 10+ crusaders just autoattacking them, no luck. Next crusader starts yapping but the ghouls aggro to him and he dies a slow death! :(

Don't make the same mistake and attack the ones near the ghouls.

评论来自 kiyuso

Accidentally aggroed one of the elites, whacked them a few times and I got it. After killing some 50 regular guys!

评论来自 1440987

How To Win Friends And Influence Enemies http://youtu.be/qaUfpwWvIdo

评论来自 1374013

How To Win Friends And Influence Enemies https://youtu.be/FWqKHiPQPuw

评论来自 WoWGnGP

I made i playthrough of this quest if anyone wish to see how to do it :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoZzwkZUn90

评论来自 LazerHawk

Took me 51 kills to get this, literally.
33 durability on my Keleseth's Persuader...

评论来自 WoWQHelps

HD Video Tutorial for this quest : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A52nf7ESvzU

评论来自 1444086

I just did this quest on my Death Knight and it was a pain until i figured it out, the first thing you need to do is equip just one dagger. If you're wearing heirlooms you may want to remove a few, you need to prolong your targets life as long as possible.

When you stab someone with these daggers you will sometimes hear a hissing sound and then see some dialogue. But because we do so much damage these days we end up killing them before they can give up their secret.

Basically just stab them once and then hit escape to stop yourself from auto attacking, then wait about 10 seconds and repeat. The burning/hissing sound is the key, you want to attack them only when this effect is off cooldown.

评论来自 internetking

there is a bug it wont weild 2nd sword anymore... see my twitter post at https://twitter.com/WowNews4u/status/647993286376820736

评论来自 Qgasm

For those who are concerned your most recent xpac Heirloom gear is making this quest impossible; it's not. It just takes multiple npc's to complete as per usual RNG parameters. Keep auto-shotting until a npc gives it up.

评论来自 lizizaid

60 mob kills before end of the quest. WOW.

评论来自 Boxofbeer

How To Win Friends And Influence Enemies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fIXx0NXFzY

评论来自 The8th

If you are using a lot of heirlooms, take some off
Use Frost Presence NOT Blood.

Single out lone guards and only use Auto Attack

评论来自 Nightwish99

"highly efficent"

Kappa :^)

评论来自 Deielea

"I grow tired of these games..." YES I REALLY AM.

评论来自 bigunde

A video of the Quest How To Win Friends And Influence Enemies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoOC7aXTFqE

评论来自 pmkaboo

the goal is to get as many procs as possible on the same guy.

i was running around just autoattacking for half an hour, in heirloom gear this resulted in getting 2 procs before they died.
then i switched to getting the proc, stop autoattack, wait until the stun ends + a couple seconds, get another proc and repeat. the first guy i tried this on spilled the beans on 3rd proc.
to confirm i abandoned the quest and tried again two times. the first time the first guy(horseman) spilled the beens on 4th proc, the second time i got 10 procs on first guy(sword+shield) who didnt say anything, the second guy(horseman) spilled the beans on 3rd proc.

评论来自 kortecc

My girlfriend tried to do this quest, today, and completed it just now, after having tried for a good hour, trying to delete the quest, reload, relog, on/off all gear etcetc.

Finally after an hours time, she remembered having to go to an appletree in "New Avalon Orchard", and so she did, she hit the commander on his horse, and it didn't take long before he'd speak, having poked him a little.

Hope this tip may help, and hopefully works for others.

评论来自 finniviby

Got naked, and had it on my first attempt

评论来自 oshsama

TL;DR: Kill a mob, unequip and equip the weapon again, autoattack and the next mob will talk.

I just might have discovered how to bypass it.
I can't confirm, cause it might just been coincidence and I was to scarred to abandon the quest to confirm it (hate the grind!)
So I was fed up with it like everyone else after killing 10s of mobs with no effect and came over here to check if anyone might have had an answer.
Seem that the only way was the obvious autoattack and patience. One had mentioned something about internal cd that I did not think about before and this reminded me of resetting it by unequpping and reequipping the gear with it.
So I was in combat autoattacking a mob and without much thinking I unequppied and reequipped the sword again and the mob talked straight after that.
I did not abandon the quest to try to confirm it, cause it might just have been a coincidence and I didn't want to go through all this grind again in case it didn't work.

So the main point is - go and try it out and comment if you see any difference!

// EDIT: I was leveling another DK and while it didn't happen on the 1st try, it took me 5 tries only, so it might be RNG, or reequipping the weapon might be actually helping! It might be just another placebo, but whatever it takes ;]

评论来自 Mizzo13

After trying with 90+ mobs as an unholy DK what I did was:

Abandon quest, chenge spec to frost, accept quest again and receive 2 daggers instead of a 2h weapon. Used both daggers and first mob I attacked completed the quest.

Hope this helps.

评论来自 Crazyadict87

Just take all your gear off if your having trouble gettin info. Doing this will make combat last a bit longer...I figured give it a try ....first one gave me information. (face palm) and 60+ dead crusaders...

评论来自 Apakaleky

Look for the Scarlet Commander

评论来自 Robbiex0x

Can this quest get some "bad luck protection".......Made a new DK to get something off a friends server, forgot how terrible this quest is.

评论来自 Simonetj

It takes a loooooooooong time. When i started the mission I had 7 skulls, when i finally finished it I had 66. It takes a ton of patience.

评论来自 Farrsog

Best advice on this quest is to be prepared, as it is Painful. AFTER I started counting on my latest attempt while leveling a DK (it took me a bit to get frustrated enough to count), I counted 41 kills before I got it.

Edit: After looking back, I went from having roughly 20ish of the Crusader Skull item, to 83. So it looks like the total number was between 50-60. Yeesh.

评论来自 supernovaf

Guess what? I killed around 150 scarlet dogs before i decided to give up. When i returned the next day, BOOM! I got the confession from the very first hit on the very first mob!

评论来自 KedKexKevin

As for patch 7.2.5, I was a Blood Death Knight. I only got just ONE Persuader from the box. Maybe this was the problem for me. It was a two-handed version. I think I auto-attacked like 50 of the scarlet people. Then I abandoned the quest, walked back to Prince Keleseth, changed my talents to Frost and accepted the quest again. This time I received (just like normal) two of the Persuaders. After auto-attacking just three of them, I got the Crimson Dawn revealed. I do not know if this was a coincidence, but I hope it will help anyone with the same problem.

评论来自 anthonymcdevitt9

Until Blizz gets off there ass and fixes this quest, here is an EASY QUICK SOLUTION

First, change to frost spec to accept the quest, and equip only one dagger. Start your auto-attack and once the enemy is stunned, stop auto-attack. HERE IS THE KEY, DO NOT RESUME AUTO-ATTACK UNTIL AFTER THE ENEMIES CHAT BOX HAS DISAPPEARED. Honestly with this method, you really don't even need to change spec, and probably only need to take heirlooms off.

Luckily, I was able to learn how the mechanics work last time I did this. Here is what I've come up with. A stun proc will occur within 1-3 auto attacks, but will NEVER occur while the chat box is still visible. That is what really got me. Even with all my gear off, and one dagger, I would only see 2 or 3 procs per enemy because as soon as the stun wore off I started attacking. With this method you can easily get 7 or 8 procs, and are guaranteed to break them within your first handful of enemies.

Please up-vote, I have personally tested this method fives times, and each try took less than two enemies!

评论来自 kalnu

So, either I have very bad RNG, or this quest is bugged.

Opening the box, I received one poker - but looking at the others alongside me, that seems to be the case now.

I was prodding these guys for over an hour, over a hundred procs with the burning + information. I even grouped with someone else and they got it on their 3rd or 4th crusader. I did NOT get the proc of completion even though I was right next to them.

I abandoned the quest, picked it back up, and returned to prodding these guys. On my 3rd crusader, I got the proc and the quest was completed.

If you have issues with getting this completed in legion, try to abandon it and pick it back up!

评论来自 Grifferyn

Avoid the preachers, as they do a way more damage than the others with their Holy Smite

This is the part where I use the 10 黑色蘑菇 from the start.

评论来自 Gyrospark

I've leveled over a dozen DK's and what I can tell you is that you do not need to wait for the debuff to wear off on the NPC. If he is the one that will tell you, he will tell you instantly, so start with an auto attack and if he doesnt turn into a non-attackable npc straight away (if the debuff is applied), kill him and move on.

Sometimes it would take me just a few kills, sometimes I've gone 50+ kills without them talking.

评论来自 Grim32

This can proc from a NPC who denies it multiple times. With them fixing this quest (to give 2h versions of the weapons...) just go blood - and auto attack while browsing something, alt tab in every 15-20 seconds and find a new target.

My personal WORST record for completing this was 163NPCs killed @ 1 hours and 8 minutes

Personal best - being the first NPC I found. So true RNG here.

评论来自 Findoan

I had been going at this for over half an hour. No telling how many dozens of Scarlet tough guys I'd killed, just trying to be patient, and thinking maybe the RNG just hated me. I finally got sick of it, ran out to where the mobs of ghouls are attacking the main gates so I'd be safe, and minimized the game to check Wowhead to see what I was doing wrong. I read that you just need to be patient, and it really is just the RNG, so I opened the game again and attacked the first mob I saw. He almost immediately gave up and told me his secrets.

Moral of the story is, don't waste your time. Just come right to Wowhead, read about the quest, and WoW feels bad about their cruddy RNG and gives you the mob.

评论来自 Hickeroar

Literally took me 30 minutes while just autoattacking, and pausing autoattacks between persuasions. I reported this stupid quest to blizzard because it's clearly broken, even if broken-by-design.

评论来自 Lorentary

Just to clarify - There whole thing is based on RNG on every hit (including skills) except for when the person is talking - Going into frost to increase attack speed is virtually no different from frost or blood as a new interiogation cannot occur during an ongoing one.

But this is definitely one of the most poorly designed quests in left behind in wow WoW after the cataclysm overhaul of the Classic quests in the Barrens.

评论来自 Ryokishine

There's a lot of misinformation in the comments.

1.) All damage you do can proc the weapon's effect. EVEN YOUR ABILITIES. So auto attacking only just slows you down.
2.) The only mob that reliably will talk are the Scarlet Crusaders. Just chain pull them until it procs. It's usually within the first 4 you pull.
3.) If you go to 60,68 - there are about 6 Scarlet Crusaders all right by each other that are force spawned. Pull them all (be Blood, it's the best).

I've done the DK starting zone 20+ times, so I know this is 100% accurate.

Don't forget to equip the weapon before you start killing stuff.

You're welcome.

评论来自 Kayasia

To this day, one of the most annoying quests. Did it in a group, one person got it after about six mobs, and the other took much, much longer. Of course it didn't count for group credit.

评论来自 fallenangel6908

Spent 20 min auto attacking ^&*! literally made me rage quit and alt-f4 quest currently incomplete

评论来自 AlakeiThancan

Many people saying this is RNG, it's not. Well, whether you trigger the event or just a dud is RNG, but the proc of the weapon isn't. It's a 100% chance to trigger the stun, with an internal cooldown (I don't have an exact figure, but about 8/10 seconds). Try it. Auto attack a mob, wait ten seconds and hit him one more time. You'll stun at every hit.

评论来自 Ithenell

I am literally in HELL trying to get this damned quest done.

评论来自 Arligan

"You hit like a girl. Honestly. Is that the best you can do?"

That's sexist, Scarlet Crusade.

评论来自 merenhuiske

You don't need to get res sickness, remove gear or anything special. Equip the weapons and attack scarlet mob once. Then wait 10-15 seconds, attack again once to proc to the dialogue. Rinse and repeat until done, took me one scarlet mob to finish

评论来自 DaemoniKira

Even if you are in a group and someone gets the confession, this is NOT a shared quest! You will have to get your own confession.

评论来自 litpotato57

Hello,

I've seen a lot of comments on here with "tricks" on how to get this done faster and I'd like to chime in on some mythbusting.

1) Your spells and abilities DO proc the stun.
2) Pulling more than 1 mod at a time during this quest will not speed up the quest. This is because the proc is a weapon ability with a cooldown. It's not NPC specific. Meaning if you attack a scarlet priest and stun it and try to stun another scarlet crusader, it will not stun until the Proc CD is up again.
3) It does not matter which NPC you attack, I have done this starting area many times and have had the completed objective on all of the different Scarlet Crusaders.
4) Do this quest in blood, simply because if you simply do a single auto-attack to proc the stun then quit auto-attacking, you can get a good 3 or 4 stuns out of a Crusader. Being blood will let you soak up more damage.
5) Single auto-attack stun proc then stop attacking. The cooldown is like 5 or 6 seconds, I haven't clocked it yet so I cannot confirm the time.
6) Doesn't matter if you dual-wield or single wield

There's no trick to make this quest faster, I've had the quest complete on the first NPC and I've had it complete on the 15th. It's strictly RNG based.

I've been making Death Knight alts since Wrath came out and I've even been speedrunning this starting zone. In my time I've made hundreds of Death Knights and during this time I have tried several gimmicks like starting the quest, abandoning the quest then starting again. Killing a Crusader then equipping the sticks. Let the NPC get stunned and kill it to try and quicken the proc. None of which work.

I wish there was a way to speed this quest up, it would definitely save some time on my runs.

I hope this clears up some info.

评论来自 popje

For idiots like me, the sword is looted from the the quest giver gave you.

评论来自 themole18

I killed 68 mobs before getting the information. I logged out and logged back in and got it on my 1st mob.

评论来自 Trikeesha

THE most #$%^&*ed quest and THE dumbest zone in the game.

评论来自 Tr3mm0r

I think the problem with this quest is the fact that mobs die to quickly and i think I've found the best way to complete this quest:

Equip the quest item and attack mobs. The first hit they'll get stunned and there will be some chat going on. You have to just turn back and let mob hit you for about ten seconds and then face it and hit it again and it'll get stunned once more. Rinse and repeat.

评论来自 jb4479

I just came here to say remove some of your equipment and bring your strength down. You get more hits and the mobs won't die as fast. This gives the weapon more chances to proc.

评论来自 MonkeyTroll

awful quest

评论来自 Bilcifer

60 tries, good god.... is this what fun is supposed to be haha. maybe its still implemented in order to force your toon to level a bit so you're not slacking on the stuff that comes up, idk.

评论来自 Xuper

i did like 100 time so i dropped quest and relog then grabbed quest but didn't open box , when i reached quest zone , i opened box and on first try , it did,

评论来自 Juicebox

Hot tip: Use the 整体缩小仪 and just beat on one of the mobs away from the others to get it much faster. Also if you're struggling with health, do it in blood and just spam Heart Strike and Death Strike. Took me 2 mins max

评论来自 minamus

Don't kill anyone close to the Scarlet Ghouls, they will kill the one who talks before they are done. The quest will not complete then.

评论来自 Gaara3San

Equip quest weapons!

评论来自 solitha

After quite a lot of dead Scarlets, I tried unequipping all my heirlooms and downgrading to the level 6 starter gear. The next NPC I hit, he gave in on the third or fourth stun. The trick really does seem to be just stretching out each individual fight as long as you're surviving it okay... auto-attack, pacify your pet and downgrade or remove gear.

评论来自 Nyko7

so I did this in Dragonflight and let me tell you it was a journey.

My tips below:
1. Spec to Blood
2. Unequip all your gear items. (I had 6ilvl)
3. Open the red-gold box item in your inventory and equip the dagger you just received.
4. Auto-attack Scarlet Crusade guard (not citizens inside the buildings) UNTIL THEY GET STUNNED and STOP attacking them immidiately.
5. If they wont reveal the info to you LET THEM HIT YOU THREE TIMES and AUTO-ATTACK AGAIN until they get stunned.
6. If failed again let them hit you THREE TIMES once again and auto-attack them until they get stunned again.
7. Try to stun them atleast FOUR times. Three times wasnt enough for me.

Hopefully you have a mount with merchant where you can buy food or you should have some food in your bags already to heal. Plus you can use death strike if needed.

Incredible quest design that will really attract new players to play Death Knights or this game at all if this will be one of their first experience.

评论来自 TheVeiledGhost

I have spent over an hour on this quest....

评论来自 TheVeiledGhost

I have spent over an hour on this quest....

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