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Rogue Cataclysm Talent Changes Rundown
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2010/06/10 at 12:17 AM
by
Malgayne
We've done a complete rundown of all the changes to the
Rogue
talents!
This is a step by step, hand-done comparison of all of the new talents in Blizzard's latest preview. Remember, there are a lot of typos and issues with the preview Blizzard originally provided us, so if some of these look weird, don't blame us!
As always:
this is a preview.
All of this is subject to change in the future, so don't get too attached. And you can find our Cataclysm talent calculator at the link below:
Talent Calculator:
http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#f
The full run-down is after the break! And keep in mind, Ghostcrawler
wants your feedback
!
Tier 1
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
(2 points) -
Changed!
Cataclysm: After killing an opponent that yields experience or honor, gives you receive a 20/40% increased critical strike chance on your next ability. Lasts 20 seconds.
Current: After killing an opponent that yields experience or honor, gives you a 20/40% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Hemorrhage, Backstab, Mutilate, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 sec.
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 2
Ruthlessness
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
(2 points) -
Removed!
Current: Increases the damage caused by your Garrote and Rupture abilities by 15/30%.
Deadly Momentum (2 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Requires 2 points in Remorseless Attacks. After killing an opponent that yields experience or honor, Deadly Momentum gives you a 50/100% chance to refresh your Slice and Dice or Recuperate abilities to their original duration.
Blackjack (2 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Even after your Sap wears off, its effects linger on enemies, reducing their damage done by 25/50% for 5 seconds.
Tier 3
(3 points) - Moved from Tier 2.
Vigor
(1 point) -
Unchanged.
(2 points) -
Removed!
Tier 4
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
Improved Poisons
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
Fleet Footed
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(1 point) -
Changed!
Cataclysm: When activated, generates 25 Energy and increases the critical strike chance of your next offensive ability by 100%.
Current: When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next offensive ability by 100%.
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 6
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
(3 points) - Moved from Tier 7.
(2 points) -
Removed!
Tier 7
Deadly Brew
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
Overkill
(1 point) -
Unchanged.
Improved Expose Armor (3 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Gives a 33/67/100% chance to refund all combo points used when performing your Expose Armor ability.
Tier 8
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
(3 points) -
Removed!
Murderous Intent (3 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: When you Backstab an enemy that is at or below 35% health, you instantly recover 10/20/30 Energy.
Tier 9
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
(1 point) -
Unchanged.
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 10
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
Venomous Wounds (3 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Each time your Rupture or Garrote deals damage to an enemy that is afflicted with your poison, you have a 15/30/45% chance to deal with 616/619/621 additional Nature damage.
Tier 11
(1 point) -
Removed!
Vendetta (1 point) -
New!
Cataclysm: Marks an enemy for death, increasing all damage you deal to the target by 20% and granting you unerring vision of your target, regardless of concealments such as Stealth and Invisibility. Lasts 30 seconds.
Tier 1
(5 points) -
Changed!
Cataclysm: Increases the damage dealt by your Sinister Strike ability by 1/2/3/4/5% and reduces its Energy cost by 1/2/3/4/5.
Current: Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 3/5.
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 2
Improved Recuperate (2 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Causes your Recuperate ability to restore an additional 1/2% of your maximum health.
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 3
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(1 point) -
Unchanged.
(5 points) - Moved from Tier 4.
(5 points) -
Removed!
Tier 4
(2 points) - Moved from Tier 2.
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 5
(5 points) -
Removed!
Blade Flurry
(1 point) -
Unchanged.
(5 points) -
Removed!
Reinforced Leather (5 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Increases your armor contribution from cloth and leather items by 10/20/30/40/50%.
Tier 6
(2 points) - Moved from Tier 3.
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 7
Combat Potency
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(3 points) - Moved from Tier 1.
Tier 8
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 9
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(1 points) -
Unchanged.
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
Sturdy Recuperation (2 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Reduces all damage taken by 4/8% while your Recuperate ability is active.
Tier 10
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
Restless Blades (3 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Your damage finishing moves reduce the cooldown of your Blade Flurry, Killing Spree, and Sprint abilities by 0.5/1/1.5 second per combo point.
Tier 11
Killing Spree
(1 point) -
Unchanged.
Tier 1
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
(3 points) -
Removed!
(2 points) - Moved from Tier 4.
Tier 2
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(3 points) - Moved from Tier 1.
Tier 3
(3 points) - Moved from Tier 4.
(1 point) -
Removed!
Hemorrhage
(1 point) - Moved from Tier 5.
Tier 4
(2 points) - Moved from Tier 3.
Dagger Specialization (5 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Daggers by 1/2/3/4/5%.
(3 points) -
Removed!
Energetic Recovery (3 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Empowers your Recuperate ability, causing its periodic effect to also restore 1/2/3 Energy.
Tier 5
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(1 point) -
Unchanged.
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 6
Master of Subtlety
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 7
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
(1 point) -
Unchanged.
Blood Spatter (2 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Increases the damage caused by your Garrote and Rupture abilities by 15/30%.
Cheat Death
(3 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 8
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 9
(3 points) -
Redesigned!
Cataclysm: Increases the ranged and melee critical hit chance of all party and raid members by 5%. When any player in your party or raid critically hits with a ranged or melee ability, you have a 33/66/100% chance to gain a combo point on your current target. This effect cannot occur more than once every 4/32/2 seconds.
Current: When anyone in your group critically hits with a damage or healing spell or ability, you have a 33/66/100% chance to gain a combo point on your current target. This effect cannot occur more than once every second.
Shadowstep
(1 point) -
Unchanged.
Sanguinary Vein (3 points) -
New!
Cataclysm: Requires 2 points in Blood Spatter. Increases your damage dealt to targets with a bleed effect on them by 2/4/6%.
(2 points) -
Unchanged.
Tier 10
(5 points) -
Unchanged.
(3 points) -
Redesigned!
Moved from Tier 3.
Cataclysm: Your Eviscerate has a 4/8/12% chance per combo point to refresh your Rupture on the target to its original duration.
Current: Causes your attacks to ignore up to 3/6/9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 10/20/30%
Tier 11
(1 point) -
Unchanged.
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Comment by
105944
on 2010-07-29T15:15:23-05:00
lol, when i said "use wisely " i meant don't continue making yourself look ungracious and odious.
*randomly accuses you of misusing "ungracious" and "odious" then moves on with his post without providing support*
seewutididthur?
i was holding out some hope that by offering an apology and a quasi compliment you would show everyone on this post that you actually are a sensible and honorable person.
compliments and passive aggressive apologies may win over some peoples hearts but I like to think of myself as better than that
you arent going to get out of this that easily
rather than do that you chose to keep using the same tired tactics of belittling and avoided posting anything substantive in response.
denying their existence doesn't make them any less real
you rarely (notice i am stating that you have made
some
relevent arguments in response) rebut effectively. you seem to think that inane comments or unspecific responses
I have challenged you multiple times to bring forth an unsubstantial response that I made, so that I can point out what you missed and why the response indeed is a rebuttal
qualify as a rebuttal, which, i am sorry to say, it does not. a rebuttal requires
proving
why someone's opinion or statement was incorrect. see below.
1) no, it doesn't, a rebuttal is merely a response
2) who are you to say that there has been substantial "proof"? surely your biased opinion can't be the only one to speak to the outcome of this thread?
@ 3rd parties: for the record Im aware this is not, and never was, an argument of proof, Im just covering all bases
i will agree the example you gave was an attempt at actually refuting my claim, but that was the exception to most of your replies.
it was actually the example
you
gave
...I mean, really?
there are more, to be sure, but that's the easiest and quickest to point out.
what? that last sentence was... horrible.
dodge noted
point stands
firstly, when i said that your insulting comments don't help anyone learn, i meant the primary parties involved. by primary parties i mean you vs whoever you decide to argue against, thereby qualifying for the "anyone" word choice in my initial reply.
a jury is just as important in a court of law as as the prosecution and defense
you have only insulted people who disagree w/ you and that does not help them, if they indeed are wrong.
you're
wrong
again
i was not saying that someone else on this forum could not benefit from reading opposing opinions b/c that's obviously one of the reasons people visit forums.
you were suggesting, like you still are now, that they are irrelevant to the discussion
care to elaborate on what that word was? it's getting harder to
refute
your comments b/c you aren't explicit in what you are saying.
you know exactly what I was refering to
so,
dodge noted
point stands
not providing specifics doesn't make for a solid argument. case in point
the argument was laid out quite coherently immediately before the "pro tip" was made
attempting to quote it out of context doesn't help you, people can always go back and check
that is b/c you lacked specificity and so my reply attempted to address the topic but you apparently meant something different. a little more effort on your part would help this argument go a lot further b/c i would be able to reply to your comment correctly if you explained yourself better.
there are more, to be sure, but that's the easiest and quickest to point out.
seriously?
thats
the best you can do?
lol... not the best. read carefully the part where i said "the easiest and quickest to point out".
fair enough, lets go back and have a look see
you are on a public forum
there are
alot more people participating in an argument (most only by lurking) than you and me
its pretty clear to see what I meant by that statement, you're either an idiot, were trying to dodge the point by talking around it, or simply going back and trying to pad your argument.
which was directed to caperon only. he was the first to reply to my post and he understood my humor and i understood his. your reply to that post was not done jokingly
who are you to say any of those things? Caperons response could have very well meant to be a snide remark, just as your response could have very easily been sarcasm , and just as well as my remark could be a friendly meme tossed around as a sign of good faith.
i felt i needed to reply to someone being rude for little to no reason.
your previous posts in the thread were more than enough to garner a justifiably rude response from anyone on the forum
sorry...
look up preemptive, cop out and the word dictionary as well.
*randomly accuses you of misusing "ungracious" and "odious" then moves on with his post without providing support*
i agree. the posts between goshadstep2lose and i are getting ridiculous. I tried to weasel my way out of the argument while still saving face with a passive aggressive apology but only after I made all my responses: so that if he responded
he
would look like the &*!@, not me!
fixed your last post there
Comment by
Liquoid
on 2010-07-29T15:38:20-05:00
needs more
Comment by
Malgayne
on 2010-07-29T17:08:57-05:00
I think we're long past done here.
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